Sugess Top Chronometer v3 Full review

[@dietmargl9501]

I bought this watch. Excellent purchase and extremely accurate. The best possible daytona homage watch out there.

[@mtcisme]

Do you wear it often? How accurate is it? I'm thinking of buying one.

[@mlzs_]

There is Seagull

[@devildogcody]

Some people hope to someday afford a Daytona........I hope to someday afford this homage 😅

[@RockerfellerRothchild1776]

Get the Pagani as good

[@garrisong]

I have one of these, love it keeps great time +- 1 sec which was really surprising to me. Only problem I’ve had with it is after about 3 months it stopped winding, wouldn’t wind automatically or manually. It’s currently in for warranty repair but that’s been going on for over 12 weeks. That being said when I get it back I will wear it on a regular basis and will probably buy another one eventually.

[@redbarchetta8782]

Love mine and knock on wood so far nothing wrong.

[@mtcisme]

​@@redbarchetta8782is your watch still working well? I'm really tempted to buy one but they went up to 500 dollars and I can't risk it if the movement craps out soon after wearing it.

[@malikshabazz7596]

I have the white dial stainless Steel Bezel version. Before I ordered the watch, l went into a Rolex AD store in Burlington Arcade in Piccadilly London and tried on the exact Rolex model. Then l went home and ordered the Sugess white dial stainless Bezel. Its my favourite watch without a doubt, the Television does not do justice to how good this watch looks.

[@EscapeWheel]

I can agree with that, much nicer in the metal, as they say. Enjoy yours, and thanks for watching!

[@manuelhung7571]

I have 3 Sugess watch models so far and each one is superbly crafted and finished. Will be buying this model too as I love Automatic Chronographs especially in this price range.

[@jorgeshss]

Now the price has gone up quite a bit to around 400 usd

[@davidsherrick898]

It's even more now. I'm waiting for a sale.

[@philiproberts1473]

Many mechanical chronographs have a 30 minute sub-dial, including Daytona, Speedmaster and Carrera. Much easlier ro read than a 60 minute. This is an amazing price for an auto chrono.

[@EscapeWheel]

Yup, that's what I seem to find around the web, too. Guess I just never noticed it 🤷

[@michaelnguyen7445]

I paid for a Rolex Daytona and instead got post this and very happy with it

[@HaonProductions]

Wow, this is a hell of a watch assuming the movement holds up. I've never been much of a Daytona guy but this has me reconsidering!

[@1SaG]

The DanDong PeaCock movement alone is worth the price of admission. :P Seriously though: If they ditched that weird looking font and added a splash of color near the 6oc, this could be the perfect Daytona-homage, IMO. The thickness of the case (or lack thereof) alone makes this one stand out quite a bit. Especially considering you're still getting an automatic movement. Sugess seem to understand more than all the other Chinese brands the value of keeping the rehaut (and overall case) slim. Same on their Sub homage which, I believe, is also the thinnest out there and has a very unintrusive and thin rehaut.

[@EscapeWheel]

yes indeed. they have ruined all other OEM's for me....lol. san martin and baltiny do a decent job of slimming down the rehaut as well, but usually with trickery using the tophat crystals. these are VERY impressive considering they are just flat crystals.

[@1SaG]

@@EscapeWheel Yeah.. I was super close to getting that Sugess Sub, but then veered off course at the last second and ordered the PT5000 Cronos - even though its rehaut and case are a bit thicker than the Sugess'. The word "Seaman" on the dial and that Chinese Restaurant-font they use kept me from going Sugess... plus the Cronos was discounted during the sale, so ... :)

[@manuelhung7571]

I have the Sub version also complete with signed rehaut. The very first Sugess I bought in fact. Was intent on buying the Sugess Tourbillon next but after watching this video, I will delay the Tourbillon in favour of this Daytona. Beautiful looking watch.

[@BGborda]

I’ve been watching every PD and sugess daytona video on KZbin over the last few days, and this comes up today 😂🤝

[@EscapeWheel]

haha. hope you found it helpful! thanks for watching!

[@willmarshall4685]

This looks like my Christmas present from my wife! Love this one. Thank you and glad to see you are on the mend.

[@EscapeWheel]

I appreciate it man. Thanks for watching and enjoy that gift from the wife!

[@persona-non-grata]

I love the ice blue dial with silver bezel version, but this is just slightly too big for my 6.75 inch wrist. I'm really picky with watches anymore and anything over 38 is tough to pull off, especially something that is 47mm Lug2lug with male end-links. However, I agree that it *looks basically perfect on your wrist* . That is the ideal size and shape for you and I'm happy you enjoy it! Thanks for another great review.

[@EscapeWheel]

Thanks man. Maybe one day you'll be able to try it on and it'll work on your wrist because it's soooo good. Thanks for watching, Man 🤜🤛

[@mohamedelyaouti2051]

Just wear it it'll look great on ya. Fuc it😂

[@photopete7903]

The 30 minute chrono dial makes it much easier to read when the other hands are in the way than if it was a 60 minute dial. Really makes a chronograph more useable. That sort of legibility is hardly ever mentioned in reviews. for example, I find the big square blob on the end of Tudor hour hands a real issue…. If it is in front of a chrono dial it makes them a nightmare to read. Never seems to be mentioned. The thin hands on this (and on things like the moonwatch are much more sensible)

[@carmendewa2449]

TBH i dont see the worth in this watch in comparison to the Pagani, which i have and its a nice watch for a fraction of the price and ive received a ton of compliments. Unless your next to a watch conissure they would not know the diff and i much prefer the movement on the pagani where i can change the battery for $20, not have to worry about when i wear it ( only as an outing watch as i wear my Apple watch daily ) as it will keep time and date. Also if this breaks down its not worth the repair and for the price this is in Australia ( $730 AUD 🫨) i may as well get a decent Seiko in all honesty. But a great review just the same 😊

[@adk7962]

This is the only Rolex Homage I am interested in. I would get the Panda with the Black Bezel. Hope your hand heals quickly!

[@EscapeWheel]

Thanks man! I had a tough time deciding which color to go with...both are awesome

[@MichaelG1986]

I only recently found out about this watch. I put it in my cart on Aliexpress. Hopefully, I can get it for a decent price in the upcoming sale. Very nice and informative review.

[@EscapeWheel]

Thank you. Just note the new versions use a different case and movement.

[@MichaelG1986]

@@EscapeWheel Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of a change of movement and case. The current listing shows a Peacock SL 4801 - same movement? Can you elaborate on the case differences? Thanks in advance.

[@EscapeWheel]

@@MichaelG1986 this movement is based on the Vlajoux 7750, while the SL4801 is based on the Rolex Daytona movement...it's a clone movement. Not really sure of the technical differences, though. IIRC both are column wheel chronos, so that's good. The case has the newer Daytona midcase and bezel setup, so a bezel insert in a steel bezel where this one is fully ceramic. Also the newer case has those little "hooks" on the lug tips where this is very much "oyster case" styled.

[@danspanos]

Beautiful watch, but I almost wish they would have ditched all that text at the top, and just used their cursive Sugess logo. Besides that, and the price, it's one of the best Dayton's I've seen!

[@EscapeWheel]

Yup, I made a suggestion to them to do that on a V4. If they do it I'll probably sell this and get that one. 👍

[@AlexanderB.]

Sorry to hear about your disease, Steve. You caught this travelling to my country? 😮 Great watch. It's really a close homage, and it's amazing how they could keep it so slim, although it features a 7750 clone.

[@EscapeWheel]

Thanks Alexander...I think I caught it here in the states and it just manifested in Germany...either way, not fun....lol. I can only laugh about it now. 🤷

[@bro-wc9sm]

Love the reviews but this is the v2 version. Since the “Top Chronometer” is still on it in this video. I own two black one like this and new ice blue v3 with out the third line.

[@1a2b3c4.]

For the price I expect to be able to go swimming with it. But, there's not one single review showing if it is water resistant as they claim to be.

[@finophile]

Thanks for showing this watch. I'm considering buy it exactly because of the thing you think is unusual: the minute counter being 30 minutes. If you actually want to use the minute counter dividing that tiny sub dial into 60 markers makes seeing it at a glance (pretend you're driving) impossible). That its a quick change is even nicer. It becomes obvious that you're into your second run of 30 minutes with the hour totalizer. Check out some good swiss movements like Omega Speedmaster or even the original Daytona (or even Seiko RAF issue Chronographs like the 7A28 series) and you'll find that 30 seconds was common if not the norm for exactly the reason I just mentioned. I hate 60 second sub dials ... they're just decorations

[@tonyd223]

So I bought the version one, and after a few months the rotor started revolving on winding - which is typically caused by dirt in the automatic works. Sugess are fixing it now under warranty, but the finish is amazing, so so much better that my PD Daytona homage... It feels quality, it looks quality.

[@EscapeWheel]

It's nice to hear sugess is taking care of you 👍

[@ssnerd583]

I have the PD Daytona and its....nice....but THIS one....I can tell.....is NIIIIICE!!! Love this whole design and the panda look....for the $$$, its going to be coming to me sooooon

[@michaelj9437]

Would absolutely buy this watch it's fantastic

[@dankinsler1930]

They just came out with the v-4 with a Peacock sl-4801 movement. It is a close clone of the Rolex 4130 movement with a vertical clutch. I wish someone would make a video of the new one.

[@EscapeWheel]

So dang expensive, though. Hard for me to justify, personally.

[@andrewd7586]

Great review again Steve! I bought the so called Parnis equivalent about 4 years ago I’d reckon? And honestly for the money it was great value! The clasp is the only let down on that watch. Aside from that, aesthetically it really looks good! Lately I’ve been looking to replace it, but each time I take it out & wear it, I honestly think it’s ok. I’d only like more water resistance in the Parnis, but if I inadvertently drown it,I won’t cry!🤣👍🏼😎

[@EscapeWheel]

I had the Parnis a while back and upgraded to the Pagani for water resistance. It was great. This thing is just next level (as it should be for the price)

[@andrewd7586]

Yeah Steve I’ve got the Pagani too, but different colour way.😎

[@XjohnjohnX88]

I really like the full ceramic bezel. And the mouvement seems to be very good. It worth its price imho. I don't understand what happened to your hand (because of my crap English 😅). I hope it will get better quickly. Thanks for this great review, Steve. And take care of yourself.

[@EscapeWheel]

thanks man. Hand-Foot-mouth...it's a viral infection usually found in schools with little kids, sometimes the adults get it. red spots and sores on the hands, feet, and in the mouth (thankfully I didn't have them in the mouth). they eventually go away on their own but the hands will peel on those spots for up to a month.

[@XjohnjohnX88]

Okay, I had never heard of it. I hope you heal quickly, mate.

[@MrPINKFL0YD]

Rolex have the Sub dials off set up like that too...I'm going to get this in the next few days. It's fantastic value.

[@khairimat-ls9gq]

for the price tag it's a winner with such quality

[@natnat1975]

The Rolex Daytona also has the side subdials very close to the 2 and 10 position and farther away from the 4 and 8.

[@reezevlog]

the best Daytona homage by far with a non-quartz movement….(unless u get a replica with a clone Daytona movement, n 3-4 times more expensive)

[@sivanstar]

All the best Steve, get well soon. I will pick seestern and sugess any time. Sm are good but none really do it for me. I do prefer this one but in the future im gonna get th sugess with the seagull movement..

[@goldfools5445]

Desirability for Pagani - 0 Desirability for Sugess - 10

[@frankdefranco9436]

I bought the PD version for $40 the other day. Vk63 sapphire crystal 316L steel with the bracelet for that price is not bad.

[@EscapeWheel]

No, that's incredible. They are nice watches and a great grab n go option for sure. 👍

[@84BUrock]

I would wish you quick recovery but there is no quick recovery from this one unfortunately. It takes few months for those spots to disappear and they will tear apart your nails partially towards the end. Great watch btw. I really liked the movement and wonder if there are cheaper watches with the same movement.

[@EscapeWheel]

Yeah, I heard I could lose fingernails towards the end....so that's awesome. Eff HFM. It sucks. Thanks for watching and the kind words. I really haven't seen many watches with this movement period, let alone cheaper.

[@kevinc1001]

I have an Invicta Speedway with a similar Asian SL416 movement only difference is the 12-hour and 60 seconds are reverse. The movement works well only drawback is sometimes the 12-hour chronograph register moves when the chronograph is not in use.

[@rigsacebedo4218]

Got this exact same watch on April 2023. Watch stopped working around November of the same year. Sent back to Sugess on December for warranty repair. Been following up on when I can get it back ever since. It's March now and all the response I got is "we'll keep you posted". Don't waste your money on this brand, it's not worth it.

[@EscapeWheel]

keep pressing. threaten to have you credit card company do a charge-back. that's unacceptable customer service.

[@petrolbokehlicious]

Hope you can soon review the latest version of this watch with their new 1st gen 4130 clone movement and "Le Mans" colorway

[@EscapeWheel]

I would love to, but man, that's not a cheap watch, and they won't even give me a discount on it for review.

[@fishrowe420]

Just grabbed one at a pawn shop for 99 bucks. So stoked. 😂

[@fishrowe420]

Update, i I ran the chronograph for 11 hours straight last night while wearing it. Held time beautifully overnight. I couldn't be happier with my 99 dollar used chronograph.

[@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls]

I'm interested to hear how they get away with saying top chronometer, but the San martin review got we here.

[@atastycloud]

Can you review the v4 please with the new peacock sl4801 with crystal caseback?

[@vincentferreira1135]

Atowak makes Urwerk style hyper watches with wandering hours and they look amazing. They’re like $1,500. 😳🤣

[@multipl3]

Sugess is the best!!

[@EscapeWheel]

They are really the one I have my eye on this year...well, them and San martin

[@LymanPhillips]

This is a really interesting watch. It has too much shine for me. The scratches on it are already a turn off - and I wear my watches all the rime. Also, $350 for an unknown (to me at least) movement is a little steep. Although I donappfefiste the function of the sundials - I detest the 24 hour sundials on the VK63.

[@ShortBetter]

I just got this watch and it arrived broken.. Ordered from the official store on Ali. The watch doesn't start no matter what I do. Winding and shaking don't help. I can adjust the time normally. Any ideas?

[@EscapeWheel]

sorry to hear that. sounds like you know what you are doing....I'd ask for a new watch.

[@gabiedubin]

I wish they would make a speedmaster homage with this movement

[@darrenfry4695]

If that same watch had swiss made on it people would be very happy to buy said watch for a couple of thousand dollars.

[@Ungabunga_man]

I picked one of these up and the movement broke after 4 months. Sending it back would be a pain and hassle, and reparing it would cost half the price of the watch. I'm not buying anything from sugess again.

[@highanddryful]

How do you break a auto movement?

[@Ungabunga_man]

@@highanddryful idk, I sit at a desk all day. I put it on after a couple days of no use and it wouldn't run as expected. Manual winding gave a lot of resistance and would sporadically run and stop depending on the position it was held at. It eventually stopped all together and one of the sub dial hands fell off. I'm chalking it up to poor quality control.

[@AsmitPandit]

The aliexpress link you have mentioned is not to the same watch

[@stavros_katsopr]

Like i need to talk of chronographs, at all, you ask me to compare them.... Right, all yours! LOL Cheers Steve, be well mate. PS For the price i'd get as many different dial colours Pagani as i could. Luckily won't get into that too! hahaha

[@Fozec]

Does it have any sharp edges? :) Also, and update after 9 month?

[@samuelchouman2466]

I am looking at the DateJust version of this watch-and Sugess just came out with one. If you had the choice: Would you get the Sugess or Ironwatch RX8005?

[@EscapeWheel]

they seem to be very similar...but I never loved the color on my ironwatch. you get a lot more choice with the sugess. I've got my Sugess White/silver version in the mail now, so I'll be able to make a better call once I have it in hand. the ironwatch was pretty nice, though.

[@samuelchouman2466]

I think you have the version 2

[@samuelchouman2466]

Bc the Version 2 says Top Chromometer on the Dial and the Version 3 says Automatic Chronograph.

[@BCallum]

Its a nice watch, but not nice enough to move away from my Phylida ST19 chrono. The Phylida is amazing for a cheap watch. Cheers!!

[@EscapeWheel]

I agree, it's pretty nice. but this thing is just next level, honestly.

[@rsg5850]

Very happy with my pd 1644, only wish was they remove the date and add AR

[@EscapeWheel]

They make a great watch with those VK movements, hard to beat for sure.

[@BushcraftBoy]

I was given one. Silver case and bezel with a black face. It really did look fantastic. Sadly, the movements they use just aren't built as well. +137 seconds a day! It went back under warranty and was no different. So it was returned for a refund. Why did they put such a terrible movement in such a nicely made case? This really could have been the ultimate Daytona homage. In the end, it's just not worth the money.

[@EscapeWheel]

Mine was running within cosc parameters (under 4 seconds a day fast) for over 2 years. It was a great movement for me, sounds like you just got unlucky....maybe worth another try

[@ronnyrussell7]

Can large second hand run continuously or does it time out after a certain period of time ( as most quartz watches do)?

[@sevenstars004]

The large second hand will keep running. This isn't a quartz watch, it's an automatic mechanical movement. A Valjoux 7750 clone.

[@rupertbailey1666]

I can't seem to find the version with the full ceramic bezel anywhere. The link in discription directs me to steel bezel with ceramic insert.

[@EscapeWheel]

Darn, looks like they aren't even offering this one anymore

[@Dondaddyh]

I got the panda, and it’s a great fill in until the AD calls me( if I’m still alive) with my piece, the black looks really good.

[@EscapeWheel]

enjoy it when it finally does come in!

[@jorgeshss]

Any chance.to.compare this against the SM panda?.thanks for a great review!!!

[@EscapeWheel]

That's one I never got in, sorry.

[@davidrachelho]

Sugess just issue a new verson of Daytona homage, with column wheel movement and new Rolex style bezel.

[@EscapeWheel]

I saw that. Looks nice but $$$$$

[@davidrachelho]

Can you review another Chinese watch, the Prototype SK-01?

[@bernardcarthy2365]

I think its a bit unfair to compare this to the Pagani, one is quartz and one auto. For an automatic chrono I think this is a fair price though and it may go on the list of watches to buy

[@EscapeWheel]

That's fair...but it's a comparison that I was expecting to be made...lol

[@Zomby1Woof]

I've been thinking about getting this watch. But it now sells for $448.

[@EscapeWheel]

It's an updated version. New case, new movement. Too much for me as well.

[@Zomby1Woof]

@@EscapeWheel Well, knowing that it's an updated version means it must be a little better. But I haven't decided to buy it just yest.

[@quarters-eye8922]

Awesome 😎👍👍👍

[@DamianMathew]

Insane watch for 300$, I didn't even think it was possible, not even for china.

[@BeatPoet67]

This looks like the V1. The V3 doesn't have the (pretty nonsensical) "top chronometer" text - or at least that's what the image on AliExpress suggests.

[@EscapeWheel]

after looking around, I think this is a V2. V1 was nearly 14mm thick. so this is the newer version. IIRC V3 moved away from the "top chonometer" text and added the ice blue colorways.

[@Chino-47]

Case is only 12.4mm? Wow

[@EscapeWheel]

Yup, their older versions were close to 14mm so the fact they got it this thin is very impressive

[@Chino-47]

@@EscapeWheel Thanks. After seeing your review, I'm seriously thinking of copping.

[@guidine7]

I don't see the on the fly adjustment? 🤔

[@EscapeWheel]

There's no "on the fly" sliding adjustment like their newer watches, just the quick "easy link" adjustment for about 5mm of quick adjust.

[@guidine7]

@@EscapeWheel o.k. they should really establish slide on the fly adjustment

[@rayng4336]

Id get a San Martin.

[@SenerS10]

They should use AR coated sapphire. Looks bad without it.

[@EscapeWheel]

it would be nice for sure...originals don't use it though. so they can get away with not using it...lol

[@tamseerkhan4904]

Is this a genuine ETA7750 or clone of it"?

[@EscapeWheel]

clone

[@michaelbell9811]

I have been toying with getting this, then I saw the Sugess printed round the rehaut and now I'm not. That is a massive turn-off for me.. And, no, I don't like it on the originals, either.

[@praetor47]

you know what would be nice for a V4 of these (or just as an addition to the V3)? a matter colourway (at least for the black, the other 2 i don't think need it), i.e. matte ceramic bezel, and flat white hands (with more lume?) and 3 printed or brushed indices :)

[@ivankerr3570]

Nice however when it breaks and it will or needs serviced . Just throw in the bin as the service cost will be more than the watches purchase price.. you didn’t mention this !!!!!!!

[@EscapeWheel]

Yes, same can be said for most Chinese watches. The movement can be had online for about $100, thankfully I have the tools and know-how to make the wap myself when the time comes. But definitely something to consider.

[@goldfools5445]

I have this same movement in a rep that I bought in 2009. Still works fine and keeps good time.

[@paulmcgowan4510]

That's the older version my friend not the v3

[@EscapeWheel]

I thought so too, but the guy i got it from said he thought it was a V3. only difference I can see now is the new colors and the "chronograph" text instead of "top chronometer"

[@paulmcgowan4510]

@@EscapeWheel to be fair as far as I know it's the exact same watch, just different text, so the review is spot on, keep up the good work,enjoy the reviews

[@goldfools5445]

@@paulmcgowan4510I think the thickness changed.

[@simodubajic5911]

Sorry but I don't see how is this 5 times more expensive than Pagani Design Chronograph? I get it, it's mechanical... and ...?🤔

[@EscapeWheel]

Better finishing, better Lume, better bezel insert, better bracelet and clasp, better execution with the thinner rehaut. Don't get me wrong, the Pagani is great, but this is just next level. It looks like a much more expensive watch.

[@beachlife4704]

Is there anywhere else to purchase this other than Aliexpress?

[@EscapeWheel]

sugesswatch.com or seesternwatches.com are the official sugess/seestern stores. but honestly, especially right now, the price is lower on aliexpress and they are all the same stores. you actually get more protection with Aliexpress. but either of those sites above are OK to order from as well.

[@paullt5111]

Chinese junk, Chinese stole Rolex Daytona and by buying Sugess watches people pretending to be rich. Don’t buy counterfeit watches, save money and buy real thing.

[@redbarchetta8782]

That is pure BS. Rolex patents ran out on movements over 50 years old. These are copies and only to a point, not counterfeit. You are ignorant.

[@Crotch_Goblin1]

Still a Rolex copy, so big no 👇🏻

[@frankdefranco9436]

Homage, not a copy, it's a homage. Rolex is overpriced crap.

[@EscapeWheel]

I couldn't fathom spending $20K on the Rolex when this is so good for $400. But I get it, HOMAGES aren't for everyone. This channel probably isn't for you, then....lol

[@Crotch_Goblin1]

@@frankdefranco9436 yeah, sure, Rolex is crap but everybody copies them 😂😉

[@frankdefranco9436]

@@Crotch_Goblin1 Crap because they are overpriced. Otherwise they are great watches. I'd pay $2000 for the original but not even a cent more. Homage watch market is booming. It's the next big thing in the watch market.

[@driller7714]

@@Crotch_Goblin1 Rolex isn’t crap but they are overpriced.

[@9118693223]

361 usd is a lot for sure . i am sure that when this first came out on the market, it's price was about 200 usd. when it's seller realised that many people were buying that, the increased the price . most likely , in a few months it will sell for 400 or 450 usd . for a daytona look alike ...