Suicide Squad Kill The Justice failure cost Warner Bros $200 million in revenue

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[@randomdude8897]

Hopefully this type of flop makes them course correct. At the end of the day... Hogwarts Legacy(single player) succeeded and Suicide Squad(GaaS) flopped. These exec's only know one language... money.

[@user-pb9it1ly4j]

You are a fraud lying to viewers about trash unfinished games

[@karimdavis7065]

All we asked for was a Superman game in the ArkhamVerse. How is it this difficult? The Superman simulator made by Unreal Engine 5 that went viral a few years ago proves it is possible Damn you Rocksteady

[@karimdavis7065]

This is all good news imo

[@user-pb9it1ly4j]

Yong is a fraud who lied to his audience he held back all gameplay issues with cyberpunk so everyone could go buy it Fraud fraud fraud you fake fraud

[@jetwayjesus]

No Warner Bros cost themselves 200 millions. No one asked for this game. And it was low effort.

[@believeitornotnotabot3056]

It isn't just we didn't ask for this, literal thousands of people said that they didn't want it

[@alandanielsaucedo5066]

If only it was low effort, worse thing about it is that this was the best they could do. The right mindset and talent is long gone.

[@nickelbutt]

Facts.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

SBI and DEI are to be blamed

[@Asavaka]

Bro literally said rocksteady wanted to make it the way it was made lol I blame both companies, rocksteady for the game direction and WB for the monetization

[@luwuni]

The fact that WB lost all that money and won't learn anything is the real failure

[@kevingame3198]

Same is happening to the subsidiary the movie business and it’s all happening because the movie business is over because there’s a few months ago that Warner Bros. discovery is floating with bankruptcy and there was one point they were going to merge with Paramount

[@laurentderrien]

welcome to modern capitalism, where idiotic shareholders put moron execs in charge.

[@whatevr99]

“Let’s all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee.”

[@waskithonugroho3955]

I heard this is Rocksteady idea not WB idea but WB should just vetoed the idea in first place tho

[@josueayala1249]

The thing about executives is that they're all gambling addicts. The only difference is that they'll never risk losing their house, just their employee's house.

[@swirly14]

They'll blame the loss on Rocksteady. At the end of this year Rocksteady will be closed. They'll buy a new studio, and commission them to make a live service game. Rinse and repeat the cycle of corporate shittiness.

[@CeezGeez]

CEO’s gotta get that sweet new yacht

[@xaayer]

Suicide Squad kill the rocksteady

[@sytherwusky]

I’m glad the founders and the smart ones at rocksteady peace out when they saw the writing on the wall I wish them well on their new studio hundred star

[@jigglypuff5480]

Yes pls close rocksteady. The original devs for arkham games has left. There will be no more good arkham games from these devs in the studio. Think about it......There's a team in the studio who somehow think Harley quinn, a mentally ill villain deserve to take batman spot as a hero.

[@jack_stone]

@@jigglypuff5480 She's more an anti hero depending on the continuity but I get what you're saying.

[@SmashBrotherX]

"Well.... Time to fire a bunch of developers and close a studio or two! That reminds me, I got to give myself a bigger bonus this year!" - WB Executive right now.

[@cliffturbo2146]

"It wasn't my fault, it's your fault!"

[@cryptosporidiom]

Honestly, whoever at Rocksteady did the writing for this game needs to be fired. Unfortunately someone undeserving will probably be caught in the crossfire, if not the entire studio. Either way, they were on their way out as a studio anyway, so the consumers lose nothing. I'll wager a games studio is only good for about three decent games nowadays, anyway.

[@spikestreak5239]

@@cryptosporidiomrocksteady was making Batman: Arkham beyond but Wb forced them to make this

[@etienne8110]

"i deserve a new yacht to recover from this setback. Time to fire some workers."

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

I do like to imagine they wipe the sweat off their brow after making the "difficult" decision to fire a bunch of employees and treat themselves to some R&R with a self issued bonus.

[@rambofan334]

Oh I get it, it's called Suicide Squad because it killed itself.

[@adrianandrade6369]

Great comment lol

[@fearxhg0311]

nice one

[@teddyholiday8038]

It killed the franchise, the Arkhamverse, and Rocksteady

[@ItsShaggy3]

@@teddyholiday8038 Arkhamverse died in Knightfall protocol. This BS isn't cannon.

[@teddyholiday8038]

@@ItsShaggy3 nah you’re literally wrong

[@AlexanderFort]

I don’t want to kill the Justice League.

[@maofria1452]

Only the superman

[@techno_otaku]

same, my friend same

[@misulincu]

Based

[@apri.lwetter]

I want. Bloody and gory. :-)

[@krel7160]

Kill the Justice League would've been better if you were one of the injustice universes. Have us fight a version that's legitimately evil and can see us team up with our actual justice league. Bonus points, have an alt-lex luthor become the commander of the suicide squad mid-way through, scheming against both the injustice league AND prime continuity luthor simultaneously. Have the joker show up just to laugh at Kal-el, saying something like "Wait, *I* told you to kill Lois Lane, and you *LISTENED?!* Hua..hua! And they say comedy doesn't write itself! HUAHAHAHAHA!"

[@Killgore-ip2yq]

They lost 200 million dollars and are still gonna invest in more live services. 😂

[@rorylumley4727]

yeah I mean disney is making marvel's games single player after the avengers flop.

[@brad5426]

The sleeper agent gamers in China are going to carry those live service profits

[@A1stardan]

They can afford to fail a lot, but once they hit the jackpot like fortnite/ apex, they'll have their cash cow for yrs. That's what they think. Whales are to be blamed

[@roahnosh]

They are trying to replicate mihoyo's success with their Genshin and Honkai Star Rail (and ZZZ) WITHOUT putting in the effort and resources. The problem with corporations like WB is that they are a publicly traded company and they are legally contracted to make profit for their shareholders. Mihoyo on the other hand is a privately owned company, they are basically an indie game devs who happens to makes billions 😄

[@FreneticPotato]

​@@brad5426 the sleeper agents won't touch it unless it's a waifu gacha game, which we know they won't make.

[@hiotsobo]

I’ve never seen companies double, triple and quadruple down on such failed ideas in my life. It’s baffling

[@TheChaosDragoness]

Square Enix is still trying to do that with NFTs and Web 3 despite NFTs being deader than dead.

[@senshi_dev_art]

Tarkov who Sixtupled down on a huge scam to their players

[@DubberRucks]

@senshi_dev_art - yeah, convincing people that it was, indeed, time to Escape from Tarkov.

[@Pete-vz5uj]

They should have made another Batman game but nooooo. Idiot Executives think LIVE SERVICE is what everyone wants

[@dagdamor1]

Ngl if they copy-pasted another Arkham installment with a few extra bells and whistles, it would have done EXPONENTIALLY better than what they tried. The bar is so low that all they have to do is churn out samey slop, and they can't even do that.

[@maofria1452]

A batman beyond game in Arkhan style would be a sucess

[@nouveill3445]

Another batman game you say? Meta Quest 3 exclusive it is!

[@geesecouchtaming7223]

Live service is never what anyone wanted, it's what makes the most money

[@TrigoNomentry]

Another Batman game? Why not a Superman game?

[@teddyholiday8038]

“Steam numbers don’t matter! It sold millions on console! MILLIONS!” I was told this on Reddit, numerous times

[@user-hw8hj7fu9j]

bots? lol

[@Nintendofan570]

It's like 2016 all over again when the Suicide Squad movie came out, people arguing weather this was good or bad and it failed due to many reasons one being it copying more successful games

[@accelerator8558]

Maybe some brainwashed People or bots

[@shadowbyname2802]

Just because it sells millions does not mean it sold enough to earn the millions they spent back. Plus if the player count is anything to go by, chances are it’s just the sub 200 players coping over the fact that their smugness and pedantic attitudes didn’t win out.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

Ok. And spider-man 2 sold millions. And guess what. They also lost millions. The difference between the 2, is suicide squad has to pay money, to keep the game alive.

[@Heaven_Angel52]

Hogwarts Legacy - a Single Player game experience - Massive hit, made huge numbers. Suicide Squad killed the justice league - a live service crapshit - Massive Flop, loss huge numbers. The ball is in your court WB. Listen to the community. What we want.

[@CarlosThadeu]

"LOL, MOOORE LIVE SERVICES"-WB

[@What.99]

“Crapshit” lol.

[@shadowkhan422]

That would require actual thinking instead of looking at graphs. So low chance . Probably will kill of Rocksteady then go all in on another cheap a** LS game made by SweatBaby and the like

[@jeremiahsbeast5560]

“…so a VR Arkham but an exclusive to Meta Quest 3?” - Warner Bros

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

"Clearly the problem is Hogwarts Legacy set an unreasonably high bar! We should have more live service games to prevent such a massive sales spike from throwing off the numbers again!"

[@Did_No_Wrong]

Warner bros: "Why don't they like it?! we spent 200 million dollars on it!"

[@sbrocman9424]

WB’s response to this “let’s double down on live service”

[@kevingame3198]

And embrace the wokeness

[@monochaos9442]

Sink Cost Fallacy is a bitch

[@shadowkhan422]

Probably kill Rocksteady for failing and making one but ,"yes , lets try again!" (said by morron in a suit, probably)

[@MissBeloved__]

​@@kevingame3198oh no look out!! the wokes are gonna come steal your balls!!!!!! 😱😱

[@kharmachaos667]

For fucks sake kevin, it's not about the wokeness!

[@ragalthor]

Who thought that players wanted an incomplete, self righteous, disrespectful game?

[@SourBogBubble]

Sweet Baby Inc?

[@shadowbyname2802]

These days I’m just laughing at all the people who told me to cope over that. Bet you $20 and a Lolipop those same people aren’t playing the game anymore.

[@shadowwolf2608]

@@SourBogBubble I was going to say the terminally online Twiter/X freaks but that works too.

[@skaynne54]

​@@SourBogBubbleWhales and bootlickers?

[@FungalBunghole]

​@@skaynne54 these types are typically Nike lickers

[@johnq.public3815]

Why fear for Rocksteady's future? Most of the talent that made the Arkham games jumped ship years ago. This company is only Rocksteady in name now.

[@FlyingFocs]

I'll guarantee this conversation is happening at WB HQ: "WHY WON'T YOU LEARN YOUR LESSON!?" "Because learning lessons is for children. And we're growed ups."

[@shadowkhan422]

That would make children smarter then the higher ups in WB. Hmm , it does make sence. ("Our live service game flopped and cost us 200 mil $ ! Lets make another one!")

[@cliffturbo2146]

Unfortunately, grown-ups will also develop their ego in the process.

[@ox_trueprotagonistchrisred9085]

Warner Bros ain’t working with Rocksteady no more on future DC games lol Rocksteady really blew it, as if they didn’t learn from the failure of Avengerrs

[@axllaw427]

Truly an OK Boomer moment lol

[@linusgustafsson2629]

I think it is more about "How could this have failed? We had representation!" and "I think it is the very small minority of customers who didn't buy it that caused this. Only those 20 people or so can make us lose millions of sales".

[@Jamie_06]

This game was a instant fall off

[@teddyholiday8038]

It was dying on arrival

[@rascoehunter3608]

At this rate they won't make it to 2 years like with Avengers. Unless WB is super delusional enough to do that.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

@@rascoehunter3608screw it, if they wanna lose more money, more power to em.

[@roguevector1268]

Whatever happens, I hope that Warner loses the (frankly stupid) copyright they have on the "Nemesis System" game mechanic (who the f can copyright game mechanics? Its like Nintendo being able to copyright the concept of a 'jump button'') so that we can get more games that use that mechanic as a roleplaying/storytelling device.

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

Patents are a frequent thing in the industry sadly. Namco had one that prevented companies from having loading screen minigames and Nintendo did patent a very clever sanity system that was in eternal darkness (specifically what the sanity effects did. It was a lot more interesting than sanity effects you get in other games such as amnesia) Unfortunately, even though both of these have expired you don't see those mechanics returning in modern games and I imagine the same would apply here. I couldn't tell you why. My guess is that it just doesn't cross developers mind since they've had to go so long without being able to do it.

[@danielthecritic88]

Its a patent, and it lasts 10 years. That should be nearly done now.

[@A1stardan]

Tbh I'm divided on this. On one side it's bad, not because they patented it, but because they didn't do anything with it after patenting it. On good side, if they didn't patent it, ubisoft would have used it in every copy paste game of theirs and we'd all be sick and bored of nemesis system by now.

[@whenallelsfails21]

​@@A1stardanare you serious? You think Ubisoft are gonna actually put another mechanic in their games? That involves work dude, something Ubisoft is allergic to.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

And Warner Bros will now think *"lesson learned, dont make big budget superhero games"* like the smoothbrains they are. Dont blame the methodology they pushed into the game, just blame the basic concept. It's always just consumer data, nothing wrong with them.

[@CelticGuardian7]

I've wondered what the chances are that they attribute Hogwart's success to the Harry Potter IP solely rather than it being single player. Wouldn't surprise me.

[@michaellane5381]

This is the same smoothbrains who complained about old western TV show models being obsolete on streaming when Mando S1 came out... s2 and 3 are the worst seasons and guess which most closely stuck to the older model?

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@CelticGuardian7 Absolutely. And its because these are selfish out of touch executives that don't ever blame themselves for being in the wrong. Their business mindset prioritizes their survival within the company foremost, and anything that can be trimmed is fair game. Including developers who put their heart and souls into it, sad as it is. It's a major issue with how different the videogame industry is from a lot of others. The cutthroat profitization way of living works in things like Steel or when going out entirely for yourself. But game companies require a certain level of human investment that doesnt come off as logical to these higher execs. You need people at the top that are understanding of the long term plan and risks associated with gaming. That and the fact Microsoft put a $70+ billion hole in their pocket with nothing to show for it. Clown behaviour. They need to fall for this at this point I feel. But that'd also suck ass because then sony would be at the top which is almost EVEN WORSE. Remember 500 USDollars in 2005 and proprietary memory cards for the vita that literally accomplished NOTHING!? Sorry for ranting at the end lol. But yeah a lot of big shit kinda stinks. But there's also a lot of incredible stuff to play out right now at least. Tsushima on pc baybeee

[@sureberferber9101]

*Suicide Squad Kill The Justice failure cost Warner Bros $200 million Everyone: GOOD! FK'em!!!

[@brandongray1059]

Exactly. Hope Rocksteady is shut down in the next major announcement. They deserve it.

[@etienne8110]

The issue being it won t be the warner executives who ll pay the bill... But the workers at rocksteady who had no say on the bad choices. We need more accountability in corporations. Otherwise things won t get better.

[@straightfacts6482]

PlayStation offered a 3 hour trial of the game and I couldn’t make it through a hour of it

[@nerderthings8608]

Nobody wants to kill Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, etc.

[@apri.lwetter]

I want. And i think many others too. What‘s so special in one more game you play as Superman or Batman? Why not try something different? Btw., what you look what happens at the DCU, you could think even they want to kill them. ;-)

[@randomidoit9605]

@@apri.lwetter *Looks at Suicide Squad performance* Yeah, sure, lots of people do.

[@GForceIntel]

Nobody can if you think about it. The plot was a flop.

[@greenliongirl07]

Don't be ridiculous-- alot of people do. Unfortunately, most of them are in DC's fictional universes and the ones in our world probably don't play games.

[@henryviiifake8244]

I don't mind being able to take out the Justice League. I _DO_ mind if the ways that gets done are complete and utter asspulls, like in this game.

[@mustafamahmoud_]

They were deffo pressured by industry trends regardless of who made the final call

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

But despite what the trends say, more live service games fail than they do succeed and the ones that manage it only do so because it's very much designed with the service in mind. Helldivers 2 is a good example. The game needs more than just multiplayer and a functioning shop/battlepass to be sold as a live service game. Something that 90% of the industry doesnt seem to understand.

[@mustafamahmoud_]

@@BlaizeTheDragon agreed

[@lucashampton6269]

They had the perfect opportunity. When the Squad is clearly outmatched, a certain Ghost in Gotham goes public again as Batman to save the world one last time. The game ends with Bruce actually sacrificing himself to stop Brainiac. There you go. You still get the Squad, you get Batman, and you get an actual good way for Batman to go out. You could drop hints that Selina and Bruce are expecting a kid then spin up a Batman Beyond story. They could have done something so much better. But no.. the fat cats at the top had other ideas.

[@Korra228]

It was just a bad idea to involve the squad in general. They're supposed to be disposable and do dirty work. If the game needs to involve Brainiac it should've been a JL game.

[@defaulted9485]

Idea? No, they had NOTHING. They just want money, not ideas. There's no idea in this game. Its all preexisting stuffs and the artists and programmers scuffled and sabotaged to make this game as bad as it is. Those 9 years are solely on Warner Bros. to blame.

[@EJ_Red]

@@Korra228 And when it comes to Brainiac and the JL, we already had Injustice 2 so we didn't even need to involve Brainiac at all. Use a different villain in a game to "Kill the Justice League" like Vandal Savage or Rhas al Ghul and use the Justice League: Doom comic/film as inspiration.

[@Korra228]

@@EJ_Red I don't even like the idea of killing the JL. Why not make a game where you play as them and fight Doomsday or Darkseid? This entire game premise was just idiotic.

[@jonbodhi]

Congrats on putting more thought into the story than anyone involved in making it!👍

[@Offroader210]

"Suicide Suicide: Killed by Live Service" A perfect name.

[@kevingame3198]

You mean killed by sweet baby INC

[@bugz5556]

​@@kevingame3198 when will you culture vulture incel give this shit a break. It fail because it was a half ass live service game in a saturated market. You only get one gamergate your not gana get another. Touch some grass.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

It being 'live service" is irrelevent.

[@TyrantWesker]

@@GHOSTSTARSCREAM Not really, since most people lost interest in the game as soon as it being a live service came out. The term has a huge stigma attached to it.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

@@TyrantWesker False, The game was DoA when they first showed off the trailer 1.5 years ago (or something like that). The game never had any interest to begin with before it launched. Because it was a extremely under-baked game at that time.

[@Lightsaglowllc]

Can we please stop saying this wasn't Rocksteady's fault? It took them almost a decade to make this garbage heap. Studio was mismanaged into the ground.

[@AlexRoivas]

Suicide Squad Kill the Rocksteady. Founders of Rocksteady left in 2022 with a lot of veterans. Rocksteady is done for. Thanks WB execs for ruining an amazing game studio. I cannot believe it.

[@ginger5668]

It’s so sad seeing our beloved studios just disappearing. Fuck these corporations

[@oxymrn7038]

WB should have known this was gonna flop. Storyline that players weren't very fond of upon hearing it, live service no one asked for, repetitive looking gameplay, and to top it off the Sweet Baby Inc kiss of death. I don't feel sorry for them at all 😂

[@Jonathanest90s]

That’s pretty much how much Warner Bros Pictures lost for the Flash. Now WB Games is dealing with the same kind of flop. What sucks is that this game could have been awesome. But it wasn’t and those delays were a serious red flag.

[@rascoehunter3608]

Suicide Squad (SS for short) have lots of potential. But WB just squanders it. The only good SS content was the 2021 movie and some of the animated movies.

[@BUPMY1]

I thoight Gotham Knights was the red flag?

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@rascoehunter3608 Frankly almost every piece of Batman material seems to fall victim to the same trap and winds up rooted in the 90s-style, Liefield-esque "pizza cutter" approach to storytelling: "all edge, no point". Harley Quinn isn't necessarily a bad or uninteresting character. Most of the rest of the Suicide Squad... kind of have been (King Shark? Really?), but even that could be changed with some good writing. Wouldn't be the first time a superhero team is carried by one or two more fully realized characters. There have already been some comics where she makes a pretty solid anti-hero they could have built on, too. She's usually paired up with Poison Ivy in those, but given how utterly played out both her and Poison Ivy are as villains I'm very much okay with the two of them spinning off to have their own struggling-but-ultimately-heroic Gotham adventures with a small supporting cast. None of the characters are anywhere near that state in the Arkham 'verse, but that's what character arcs are for. Even if they had to "kill the justice league" plot in this game, imagine if the point of the game was Harley coming into her own as a trying-to-be-heroic figure, with Batman's (obviously temporary, as we all know) death seeing him pass the baton in some way. Maybe a moment of lucidity before he dies, maybe a pre-recorded message he left her after he realized what was going to happen, whatever. Sure would have been a lot more interesting than what we got, at least.

[@rascoehunter3608]

@@PhysicsGamer True. Also DC has a problem of over milking their characters as well. Harely Quinn especially.

[@he1274]

I heard a rumor that this game's getting shut down next year. I think they should shut it down now. It's only going down.

[@Yarharsuperpirate]

They'll probably scrap all future content long before that Remember, Anthem had like 6-7 seasons planned. Yet everything past the first got killed off because nobody was playing

[@bobtom1495]

And they wanted me to pay $70 for something that will be taken away within a year.... wow....

[@he1274]

@@bobtom1495 Sounds about right. Not gonna be surprised if this is true

[@Blur4strike]

Gotta squeeze all the money from the fools that bought this "Live Service" early.

[@EJ_Red]

@@Yarharsuperpirate Ah Anthem, that game. Sold so bad that it was being sold for a penny. Truly one of the games of all time.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I'm honestly tired of the Suicide Squad. This should've been a Justice League game!

[@mikkelnpetersen]

All corpetations sees is "how to nickle and dime people to potentially earn as much money as possible", yet they forget the FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT RULE, *MAKE A GOOD PRODUCT THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO BUY.*

[@duncanw5644]

WB hitting the Yamcha pose rn

[@sharpester7277]

God I love DragonBall.

[@crazyluigi6664]

😭

[@kemalerdemsahin410]

WB is probably gonna wolf fang fist rocksteady to death

[@Heaven_Angel52]

Suicide Squad killed by live service - awesome reply by YongYea. We want Single Player or it's DOA. 💪

[@MyAteSpiders]

What an ending to the Arkham universe. Disgusting treatment of a beloved game universe.

[@TheCanuckCanadain]

im glad they learn there lesson, this. THIS! is how we fight back, dont pre order. wait for the game and then decide if you buy

[@edenromanov]

That studio must be sweating right now

[@TheComicNerd97]

I don’t feel bad, they know the reputation these kinds of games have and they check all the boxes for the scummy money grabbing practices. And yet they still wanna do more live service 🙄

[@shadowkhan422]

Its not like they have the brain power to be able to learn from mistakes I quess?

[@solblackguy]

They could've been printing their own money with that Superman game

[@jackanarchy99]

WB, Sony, Microsoft are the new We Commit Suicide Squad: Kill The Business.

[@misterzygarde6431]

Why did they think players would be fine with killing the Justice League? Are they stupid? (Obligatory r/BatmanArkham reference)

[@shadowkhan422]

Wasnt even that . They just made the game that did it in as disrespectful way as possible (to maximally provoke the fans) on top of obvious grindfests to make you pay cash

[@BlurXIII]

Officer Balls

[@davidc1878]

I think they simply think their audience is stoopid and will consume everything they release. Same with so many other franchises these days (Star Wars, DC, Marvel, etc.). The people running these companies have nothing but contempt for the audience and history of the franchise, but assume the audience will show up no matter how they change the source material. It is mindboggling to me to see how badly so many entertainment companies are run these days.

[@waskithonugroho3955]

​@@shadowkhan422 it still infuriating me because they make joke about boomer magnum after they kill the Flash who saved these incompetent suicide squad TWICE btw not just one but twice and the 2nd one is the reason why Flash turned into Braniac minion ffs

[@whatifvegansneverexisted3327]

@@BlurXIIIBWAHAHA 👹

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Gamers warned Warner Brothers about making live service garbage. Now they're crying about huge losses 😂

[@shadowkhan422]

As people in multiple comments pointed out , they will 100% blame it on Rocksteady , learn absolutely nothing and just keep trying again and again

[@skxlter5747]

All that money could've gone into a proper sequel to the arkhamverse in a single player narrative driven game

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

A trash game. A grift. Failed cash grab

[@Nintendofan570]

This feels like dejavu, its like we time traveled back to 2016

[@DeadByDeath]

The live service is a mere facet of the problem with Suicide Squad. The writing was absolutely abhorrent.

[@MurtorSH]

"I don't know how executives have the positions and jobs that they do." - YongYea, May 2024 This quote sums up my thoughts perfectly. I don't get this industry: How often have executives to see other studios fail till they realize "Hey, it might be a bad idea to make another game/product like this"? Why do they keep trying? Why are they pushing so hard into anti-consumer territory? Why don't they learn about studios like Lariant? Why are executives still making millions over millions of dollars, even when failing to do whatever the heck they are supposed to to? And what the heck are they are doing anyway? What is their job in a daily 8 hour shift while studios are working on games/products? Again: I simply don't get how this industry works. I would have been fired and after that be re-hired only to getting fired again, simply to show how much I fucked up at my job.

[@Sefaso]

What the hell did anyone expect from a game which dialogue sounded like a stream of James Gunn's tweets?

[@cpt_mcmellon3199]

Music to my ears

[@ft_shipper]

Hilarious that these giant companies still think that what we want is not important. At this point, big name games are just completely worse than indie games.

[@noxfelis5333]

They want all of the money for none of the effort and then act all surprised when their plan fails.

[@ZacsNotDead]

Layoffs in waiting across the board in WBgames. Jump ship devs Jump ship!

[@0taku912]

Let's all laugh at the industry that never learns

[@defaulted9485]

... anything TEE HEE HEE

[@Rocketcow-dx1jd]

I'd rather laugh at you 2.

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@Rocketcow-dx1jd So... you think they'll learn from this disaster or...?

[@Rocketcow-dx1jd]

@@PhysicsGamer Of course not. And they will continue to fail upwards due to a near infinite revenue stream through merchandising and films.

[@lazrustosadow5880]

His mouth says I am fine we are happy here, his eyes say there's a gun to the back of my head and they will shoot if we don't speak these words

[@spaceman_spiph6695]

Nothing good will come from this, weve seen this before. They will close studios to recover costs to appear uneffected to shareholders and fire a few figure heads that leave on crazy high severences. Sad.

[@DystopianUtopia8]

Time to be honest about these bloated budgets. It's fraud.

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

I've said for the longest time that huge budgets does not automatically mean the game is going to be good or more importantly (for the industry) successful. If anything, I'd argue the industry is spending too much money on development. It's getting proven time and time again that smaller budget games are doing far better because they're not as expensive for the consumer and the developers/publishers do not need to make as much back to turn a profit. Of course, they'll never learn.

[@peterjaimes8776]

They other guy still don’t get it lol.

[@rewpertcone8243]

The bloated budgets are executives eating up all the budget to buy new houses

[@Kat1kafka]

That's what happens when you make a game for an audience that doesn't exist

[@jacobsoboleski5415]

Sounds almost like Hollywood making movies for an audience that does not exist

[@TyrantWesker]

@@jacobsoboleski5415 Almost? We all know it's exactly the same sorta people making these choices in every industry.

[@Circuitssmith]

The microtransaction whales do exist, but not enough to sustain a game.

[@DaFro3713]

There was an audience for this game?

[@theforgeryttv6449]

@@DaFro3713 There used to be when the early trailers came out many years ago. They all left when gameplay footage first came out.

[@ssjenforcer191191191]

I'm surprised they didn't just cancel the game and call it a tax write-off like their movies.

[@araonthedrake4049]

Corporations: "All these super successful studios I acquired keep failing to meet expectations. Are my expectations and terrible management to blame? No, it's the players that don't give me enough of their money"

[@MrRedfoxx01]

But will people learn from mistakes...

[@bigfoxki]

People will, not WB though.

[@bthanhawk022]

Imagine thinking WB are people. 😂

[@Blur4strike]

Maybe for the customers, not so much for fat cats running WB.

[@user-pn4py6vr4n]

CEOs aren't real people.

[@TheChaosDragoness]

nope.avi

[@itachi93674]

Don’t worry they care more about ESG money than making good games

[@ChompDude]

Live service is not the only reason people hated that game.

[@phoenixlich]

They really should have gotten my input first, i'd have told them before they lost any money on it that it was gonna flop hard. I knew it from the first announcement and hearing it would be live service and SS and the first trailer just cemented my opinion.

[@radioface86]

Sure didn't help that the game shit all over and disrespected everyone's favorite heroes either.

[@Moonwalker86]

200,000,000$ thrown in trash while some people can't even find food.

[@RealTechGeek]

Good Riddance I was never gonna waste my time with an live service game total junk !

[@mightylink65]

I can't imagine what the developers are feeling who get to keep their jobs but are being forced to work on WB's next live service. I don't know why anyone would want to stay after that... employee attrition is going to be sky high with that project. We saw the same issue in Arkane, many employees spoke out about having to work on a game they didn't want to work on.

[@chp9450]

Well deserved 👏

[@laptopfireman]

Live service is only still alive due to parents not controlling their kids !! I`m 50 and a life long gamer ! I grew up with real games that when you bought it - you owned it !! live service will die when the live service kids grow up and have to pay for their "Bullets" themselves !!! lol

[@alfredolopez1396]

I made that mistake with Destiny 2, such a disappointment of a game. The sunseting of paid content eventually made me quit years ago

[@jack_stone]

My mom is 60 and never even played video games but noticed how much less content these new games have compared to what she bought me and her other kids, lol.

[@linusgustafsson2629]

@@jack_stone You didn't play back in the 8-bit days? Most of those games just had about 1 hour of content. The rest was about being hard so you couldn't beat it until you had played them a lot.

[@jack_stone]

@@linusgustafsson2629 I was referring to the generations after that 16-bit and ps1 and PS2. (I was the PS2 kid lol)

[@juanclaudio1103]

Helldivers 2 is one of the best games released this year and it's live service. Doesn't matter if a game is live service or not, a good game is a good game.

[@yuankun99]

Live services games aren't for everyone. I'm a gamer and I love single player story games like Resident Evil where the main focus is the story, the adventure. I don't like these modern pay to win games. Also, the plot of this game sucked. People don't want to see the heroes losing to the bad guys. I knew this would fail the moment it was announced.

[@300IQPrower]

im sure the right people will be held accountable for this. /s

[@TheBlazersfan22]

I wonder how much of that 200 million was used to make the game?

[@MasterVenik]

Warner Bros say "it cost them $200 million in revenue". What they really mean is "we didn't get a big enough tax write off...."

[@MrTrueCaller619]

This garbage game would've failed no matter what, live service or single player.

[@skxlter5747]

I hope WB execs see this video and just give us what we want which is a superman game and batman beyond game

[@slobiden.2593]

This is the same studio that shot a batgirl movie and canned it, taking the loss on the production costs instead of marketing it. Then they go ahead and do this game.

[@86MissAllen]

Great video. I knew before this game released it was going to be a flop and no where near as good as the Arkham Asylum games. I'm starting to see a trend, games that Sweet Baby Inc are involved in tend to suck, put bluntly.

[@PhDBiology]

Long timer gamer here and I am fed up with the big publisher and triple A seen. I find myself just playing indie games.

[@bluwolf9357]

This is music to my ears. 😅😅😅😂

[@Takato2527]

Ah, yeah, let's double down live service and wokeness, even if they lost more money than the fund they saved.

[@sanddry738]

Wow. Who could’ve seen it coming. I’m shocked. Absolutely shooketh. Like seriously this was so damn obvious I genuinely wonder what they were expecting. Question is whether they learn their lesson (probably not)

[@hannahloumen2241]

In a better World this game would have been "Save the Justice-Leaque", where the bad guys had to save the good guys and the world.

[@melomet3789]

They won't learn

[@WalrusWinking]

People were talking about this when this game was just rumors noone wants a suicide squad game. Noone wanted a movie either. We still haven't gotten a superman game, flash, etc.

[@maofria1452]

Or a justice league single player game

[@WalrusWinking]

@@maofria1452 Nah team games are always garbage look at Avengers. Game devs need to focus on ONE main character and making them as amazing as possible. Just compare Spiderman PS4 to Avengers Spiderman and you have your answer.

[@maofria1452]

​@@WalrusWinking You can play as several Batfamily heroes in the Arkhan games, although only in certain sections of the game. It's possible to make a good game with a team of heroes, but it would probably be quite expensive. I believe that a game like this single player game with optional coop would be a great success. Imagine being able to play Spider Man and Miles Morales in co-op with a friend.

[@WalrusWinking]

@@maofria1452 I can imagine but I don't have friends lmao

[@mm-yt8sf]

oh wow that's a good point...if you know enough about the people you're going to pitch to, it makes sense to optimize the pitch to make them happy. it takes a village to sink a ship...though a dedicated executive could still do it on their own 🙂

[@SnapSV]

Now comes the part where we all throw our heads back and laugh, ready?

[@Startrance666]

The more they lose the better.

[@apri.lwetter]

Can you explain why?

[@ronburgundy3172]

the more they lose more inocent employees getfired :((

[@Startrance666]

@@ronburgundy3172 If you produce garbage you deserve to get fired.

[@gumi_twylit2605]

​@@apri.lwetter so that WB get bankrupt because you can't save it without these corrupt executives that runs the company destroying it from inside out

[@TheGrosmenou]

Good, anyday a corporation loses millions is a good day.

[@RamessesIll]

The name of this title is the best thing about this game, they really killed the Justice League franchise with this one

[@ox_trueprotagonistchrisred9085]

It was Rocksteady who made the stupid ass decision to turn Suicide Squad into live service. Not Warner Bros. Warner Bros gave the rights to DC characters to a game studios and what the game studios do with them is up to them. So literally Rocksteady cost Warner Bros 200 million smh so freaking embarrassing and I bet they would lose the dc license now

[@PhysicsGamer]

@@ox_trueprotagonistchrisred9085 Warner Bros has made it extremely clear that they want to "focus" on live services games. So obviously Rocksteady wouldn't bother pitching games they knew wouldn't be greenlit.

[@AegixDrakan]

I can make it make sense, Yong. The Suits all look at how much money Fortnite makes and go "I want all of that. Make me that." They don't care about their studio's zone of expertise, they just want all of the money, all of the time.

[@DragonHeart613]

Hogwarts Legacy, a Single-Player game, made infinitely more money than that Live-Service dumpster fire Suicide Squad & yet the head of WB Games still wants to focus more on LS & less on SP. WTF???🤬

[@AkiraVRC]

I always knew when they announce it as live service it would fucking fail

[@BjrnFriedrichsen]

i never buy live service games, i did it once and then it closed and i could never play it again, taught me to only buy non-live service games.

[@justsayain9794]

It wasnt JUST the live service. It was crap written by fanfiction writers with agendas.

[@RiotforPeacePlz]

The terrible repetitive gameplay didn't help.

[@Eggly69]

But but but Sweetbaby told us that injecting everything they wanted into the game would make us so much money How could they have possibly been wrong???

[@michaeldelcastillo7211]

Instead of punishing the devs and workers in order to save money, why not fire executives instead?

[@Roxor128]

Companies should be required to fire all management and executives before they can legally fire anyone in a non-management position.

[@byronrodriguez8974]

Sweet Baby Inc lost WB 200 million, and RockSteady are equally to blame. WB should immediately close the studio, and cut ties with SBI and never use a consultancy firm again when it comes to making games.

[@T_Holmes]

I’m gonna be so mad if they close Rocksteady after the failure of the game that WB wanted!! Please don’t. I need another Arkham game; a real one.

[@current9300]

I'm sorry to say this but Rocksteady you knew is already gone. It is studio of Theseus. Hardly any old employees remain. The expertise and skill that was used to make Arkham games no longer exists in the company.

[@Aki.akechi]

Rocksteady died along time ago. It’s rocksteady in name only

[@accelerator8558]

The real team whi made the batman arkan games are no more, all of them leave or get fired, and replaced whit DEI People so is better for all of us if Rocksteady close Doors

[@Bobsk3]

If Micro$oft can kill successful studios, WB can definitely kill a failing one! Even if it was not their fault… 💔

[@accelerator8558]

@@Aki.akechi same as blizzard

[@Fastball115]

This is the legacy of live service.... companies desperately want it to succeed and be the default for games because it makes them more money. They always seem to forget that it's not about what the company wants, but what their customers ultimately want.