Suleiman the Magnificent - Lies - Extra History

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@prince_nocturne
@prince_nocturne 8 жыл бұрын
This series has become what the History Channel wishes it still was. Informative and entertaining. That you admit the mistakes you made so openly is also so refreshing. Someday, when I have money, I'm going to throw some into a patreon for this. I want this series and this channel as a whole to keep going. I so look forward to whatever comes out. I'm always so excited when I see a new episode. Much love, EC Crew. Much love.
@prince_nocturne
@prince_nocturne 8 жыл бұрын
***** ...And then they do Extra History: Roswell
@LordTelperion
@LordTelperion 8 жыл бұрын
+Xavier Price Hear, hear! EC is the best.
@mctielpresidente
@mctielpresidente 8 жыл бұрын
+Xavier Price A tear for what History Channel USED to be ;-(
@Rainbowthewindsage
@Rainbowthewindsage 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't remember a time when the history channel was history which is sad.
@johnlienhart2717
@johnlienhart2717 8 жыл бұрын
How about a shirt that on the front says: Why let _______ ruin a good crusade? And on the back it has a bunch of things like; Getting demoted, the stock market, power creep, lack of tea, Hannibal, outdated poison pills, the British, miasma, all the stuff from the crusades, knowing nothing, the complete works of William Shakespeare, Three popes, an extra soldier, an insulting bell, a roman mob boss, and of course, Walpole. Any other suggestions?
@FlintTD
@FlintTD 8 жыл бұрын
I love this idea!
@PepsimVideos
@PepsimVideos 8 жыл бұрын
YES
@dropkickpiper3204
@dropkickpiper3204 8 жыл бұрын
Why let the Confucian courts get in the way of a good crusade?
@ql9066
@ql9066 8 жыл бұрын
xD
@weijianzhen776
@weijianzhen776 8 жыл бұрын
+John Lienhart Why let a racist Donald Trump ruin a good crusade? Why let a game over ruin a good crusade? Why let your sibling ruin a good crusade? That's some uncreative ones.
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 4 жыл бұрын
Mustafa wanted to be sultan. This enraged his father, who punished him severely.
@abdqs853
@abdqs853 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@sudhalatha3292
@sudhalatha3292 2 жыл бұрын
That's his right bro...
@jazzjj7665
@jazzjj7665 2 жыл бұрын
@@sudhalatha3292 missed the joke
@pratikmandal1350
@pratikmandal1350 5 ай бұрын
Man, you pushed me into another Oversimplified binge...
@cebenify
@cebenify 8 жыл бұрын
I would actually like to call both Justinian and Suleiman dreamers but a T.E. Lawrence-type dreamer. They dream and romanticize their dreams to the point that they forget everything else and when that dream fails, they fall apart. However, one can't help but dream what they dreamed anyway.
@Soulhin
@Soulhin 8 жыл бұрын
+Janos Jalics In some cases it leads them to make atrocious mistakes such as killing close friends but as far as I can tell from the Justinian episodes he was perhaps one of the most upstanding leaders there was (with few exceptions). Even when he mistrusted people he took precautionary steps than anything else. Regretfully Suleiman gave into fear losing almost all faith in others. I think you'd agree with me and say being a dreamer isn't a bad thing, until you lose all sense of what's actually going on.
@AftabKhan-qj9dw
@AftabKhan-qj9dw 6 жыл бұрын
True, many have succumbed to the thirst for fame and glory. Many failed while only a few succeeded, but even those who were successful, where they successful really?
@LupinLovebites
@LupinLovebites 3 жыл бұрын
The new narrative style was extremely absorbing. It very much spoke to the way I learn history. Please do this more often. Or maybe you already do...I started with the chronological playlist and am diligently making my way through.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 8 жыл бұрын
We love sending you out to research things on your own, but in this case, we actually meant to tell you what happened in the Siege of Szigetvár after Suleiman died and didn't wind up doing it in Lies. So we'll do it here! The day after Suleiman died, the battle was won. His death was kept a secret until his body could be returned to Istanbul, to ensure that power transferred safely to Selim II. Fun side note, though! To preserve the body, Suleiman's organs were removed and buried where he died. A mausoleum was then constructed on top of them, and it became a site of pilgrimage until it was destroyed in the 1680s. Historian Norbert Pap of the Hungarian University of Pécs just uncovered the remains of what we believe to be that mausoleum in December 2015, and excavation (which will hopefully confirm it!) began in April 2016. Yes, that means the excavation is going on right now!
@jameslegrand848
@jameslegrand848 8 жыл бұрын
wait your a teacher ?
@jameslegrand848
@jameslegrand848 8 жыл бұрын
PLZ THE MUSLIM INDIANS HINDI INDIANS SIKH INDIANS.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 8 жыл бұрын
+QWERTY DVORAK D'oh! First of all, that is because my keyboard has a sticky 0 zero key that doesn't always go off. Second, what a perfect username for this comment.
@TheLordboki
@TheLordboki 8 жыл бұрын
+Extra Credits Funfact: Although the Siege of Szigetvar was a defeat for Hungarian side, the perseverance despite overwhelming odds on the side of Hungarian and Croatian solders is a basis of the countries' national epics. Later, it went on to inspire an opera on the Croatian side, where the remaining soldiers do one last heroic charge against the Ottoman invaders, dying to the last man. Interestingly enough, the song from the opera eventually, though various circumstances, ended up as an anthem on a Japanese college. Fitting, somewhat, considering Japan's history of war.
@jameslegrand848
@jameslegrand848 8 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits hi Extra history I'm a HUGE FAN so i wanted to know do you guys have any plans consurning the Indian area.
@TheAnthraxBiology
@TheAnthraxBiology 8 жыл бұрын
What I love most about Lies is watching James geek out over little things like the etymology of the word "canon".
@angelcollina
@angelcollina 8 жыл бұрын
Etymology is fascinating!! :D
@thespyfromtf2133
@thespyfromtf2133 8 жыл бұрын
Batman is also a Turkish town
@Centroidlocus
@Centroidlocus 3 жыл бұрын
Thats actually truw
@xfinity8602
@xfinity8602 3 жыл бұрын
Is, the town bird robin?
@juanlacamento806
@juanlacamento806 3 жыл бұрын
@@xfinity8602 hahahahahahahahahahahaha🤣🤣🤣
@SuperNova-so2cj
@SuperNova-so2cj 3 жыл бұрын
thats strange because Gotham is in England
@Voodoo_Clerk
@Voodoo_Clerk 8 жыл бұрын
This was the first Extra History since The Seminal Tragedy to actually make me cry. The way you guys presented it was just perfect
@alsyrriad
@alsyrriad 8 жыл бұрын
I would be really interesting to sit down and have a conversation with James, his enthusiasm is so contagious :)
@maximgun3833
@maximgun3833 8 жыл бұрын
Alright, time to bring back Batman as a unit of measurement
@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723
@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 8 жыл бұрын
1 batman = 50 murders
@DominusSanguis
@DominusSanguis 8 жыл бұрын
+Ionlymadethistoleavecoments One Batman is actually equivalent to 2 dead parents.
@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723
@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 8 жыл бұрын
+DominusSanguis yeah but did you see how much batman killed? If you have 1 batman, you're basically guaranteeing 50 dead criminals
@DominusSanguis
@DominusSanguis 8 жыл бұрын
+Ionlymadethistoleavecoments so what you're saying is that 1 batman = 50 dead criminals but we also know that 2 dead parents = 1 batman so naturally one dead parent is = 25 dead criminals. Science.
@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723
@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 8 жыл бұрын
+DominusSanguis yep
@TheThOdOr1s
@TheThOdOr1s 8 жыл бұрын
Little known fact about that incident in which the Hungarian Crown gets hit and the cross bends slightly to the left. If you take a closer look at the modern Hungarian coat of arms... It's still there. This crown, with the cross bending to the left and everything. Ever since, it has genuinely become a staple and a symbol of Hungary, and still is... TO THIS DAY! And if this isn't one of the most charming and adorable things, I don't know what is. These are the kind of things that make Europe so amazing.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 8 жыл бұрын
+Thodor1s "What? Our crown's cross is bent? ...oh what the hell, let's own it!"
@Sessym
@Sessym 8 жыл бұрын
+Thodor1s The Holy Crown was considered the base legal entity of historical Hungary, representing the nation itself. Similarly to how it would feel awkward to have your 80-year old grandfather take plastic surgery to remove his wrinkles, it feels really awkward to us Hungarians to see the Holy Crown not showing the mark of times.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 8 жыл бұрын
Why was Suleiman called "the Magnificent"? And why did he make choices that, in the end, doomed his empire? EDIT: The Suleiman & Justinian shirt has vanished now, like the ghosts of the past. You can find other items from the Extra Credits store here: store.dftba.com/collections/extra-credits
@Humanlink1
@Humanlink1 8 жыл бұрын
Because he had absolute power of his empire, hence the 'Magnificent'. Absolute power, absolutely corrupts.
@jameslegrand848
@jameslegrand848 8 жыл бұрын
PLZ INDIA PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ
@SilverViper219
@SilverViper219 8 жыл бұрын
+Extra Credits as far as i have read, he is called "Kanuni" in Turkey meaning "Law Giver" and that was his most important work for the ottomans.
@jameslegrand848
@jameslegrand848 8 жыл бұрын
a series on the indian region would be great.
@cyrus5958
@cyrus5958 8 жыл бұрын
You guys should do Ataturk and the creation of modern turkey!
@silentcaay
@silentcaay 8 жыл бұрын
"I want you to do me a favor. I want you to tell all your friends about my weight..." "How much do you weigh?!" ... "I'm batman."
@Fetch26291
@Fetch26291 8 жыл бұрын
+The SilentCaay Channel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(unit)
@Ryukachoo
@Ryukachoo 8 жыл бұрын
+Fetch26291 today on "weird shit you see on the disambiguation page in wikipedia"
@taurohkea2169
@taurohkea2169 7 жыл бұрын
theres also a city in eastern turkey called Batman
@taurohkea2169
@taurohkea2169 7 жыл бұрын
i have never been there but area has many mountains and caves. u can google it for pictures but i have seen some ppl trolling google with fake pictures. at least im sure there are no skytowers and no seaside
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 8 жыл бұрын
"Slave" is such a vague word. Janissaries were technically slaves, but they were almost like minor nobles. On the other end of the scale, you have the likes of the slaves in the American South, which were almost like unruly, valuable livestock. It's one of those things which I wish we had more precise terms for, because the details matter so much-even when we aren't dealing with extremes.
@alwek
@alwek 8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy McLean Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that "Devshirme" fits this term perfectly. People who go through devshirme are trained and taught in a way that they end up as part of the system of the Ottoman Empire. Those devshirmes who performs well in combat and armswielding become part of the Jannisaries, the elite infantry of the Empire, while those with intellectual properties become viziers or scientists. They're all still bound to the Sultan, hence the similarity to a slave, but they're living and working in a lifestyle they proved excellent in during their training.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 8 жыл бұрын
Alican Bircan That's an accurate term-unsurprisingly, since it was used to describe the jannisaries, by the jannisaries-but also not an English one.
@yurichtube1162
@yurichtube1162 5 жыл бұрын
Worst thing about jainissaires was they were forced.
@gypsymonk727
@gypsymonk727 4 жыл бұрын
@@yurichtube1162 that's how Empire and Kingdom works.
@jessemozingo1279
@jessemozingo1279 8 жыл бұрын
So, getting to watch this after an 11 hour shift of working on cars and taxing my body thoroughly, totally made my night. I'm only an apprentice mechanic right now, and have a (very) limited budget, but, as my "disposable" income increases, you guys are so on my list to support, cuz you have benefited me in so so many ways through this series that I am so so grateful for. Thanks for all your hard work, and, Don't Forget To Be Awesome :-)
@docopoper
@docopoper 8 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by the topics the Patrons vote for, it helps the series a lot.
@DLAlucard
@DLAlucard 8 жыл бұрын
I'd love for you to do a series focusing on the Janissaries themselves. Surely how the practice got started, why their uniforms look the way they do, any major changes to their combat with the advances in tech and key moments in their use in the Ottoman empire would make for an interesting series.
@corvus917
@corvus917 8 жыл бұрын
If I may make a suggestion, I would like to point out that a lot of new information about Napoleon, including private letters and correspondences, has been released recently and has contributed to a couple of new biographies about the Man on Horseback. Now may be a perfect time to do a series on him.
@jeremysaklad6703
@jeremysaklad6703 8 жыл бұрын
I’d actually prefer two-part series over more concise overviews. The details are one of the most compelling parts of this show.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 8 жыл бұрын
Using the batman unit in battle is unwise. Batman never kills !
@Lucipher07
@Lucipher07 8 жыл бұрын
+scarfacemperor except "Michael Keaton Batman"
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 8 жыл бұрын
MooseMan you're forgetting the batmobile in the room
@satellite964
@satellite964 8 жыл бұрын
+scarfacemperor This Batman? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey
@Binidj
@Binidj 8 жыл бұрын
+scarfacemperor You may want to revise that opinion: www.cracked.com/article_20111_the-6-most-brutal-murders-committed-by-batman_p2.html See also: comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/batman-286/has-batman-ever-killed-a-person-intentionally-748108/ for a few instances not mentioned there.
@JohnZ117
@JohnZ117 8 жыл бұрын
+satellite964 No, this Batman. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Batman :P
@mimkyodar
@mimkyodar 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like the "lies" name is becoming more and more irrelevant. The actual lies seem to be downplayed in favour of "more stuff"
@kisatorimuru6627
@kisatorimuru6627 8 жыл бұрын
I did quite enjoy the narrative style of writing rather then the usual expository style. The allusions to Justinian and the framing device in itself lent itself to the story quite well. I would love to see more Extra Histories written in this style.
@reececrump8483
@reececrump8483 8 жыл бұрын
"we have no way of knowing what sulimon's last thoughts were" yeah that kinda bugged me a bit, took me out of the story, unsuspended my disbelief BUT IT STILL MADE ME CRY i trust you guys. i wont falt you for taking artistic liberty. you guys know how to find a balance.
@bamxaus8158
@bamxaus8158 7 жыл бұрын
You guys are doing a great job! As an Ottoman history enthusiast the whole series did the man and the Empire justice. You showed its major weakness (succession crises) and its major strength (sheer will to expand), and the impact these had on rulers (in this instance Suleiman). I understand why many commentators are annoyed at the more "personalized" approach given to the narration in this series, but personally I thought it was great, since it got you to empathize with this historic character and the choices he faced.
@hanssmirnov9946
@hanssmirnov9946 8 жыл бұрын
You did a good job of humanizing Suleiman and not stereotyping or simplifying him. His enemies the Hungarians... not so much. The Hungarians deserve more credit for their charge against the Ottomans than they got, instead of being stereotyped as impetuous knights. The Hungarians nearly killed Suleiman by attacking quickly, they could've destroyed the Ottoman empire that very day (or left it shambles for Mustafa). They were criticized for not taking defensive positions, but they would surely be overpowered and never meet Suleiman, letting him play to the strengths of his guns, numbers, and cannon. And they were criticized for not waiting for reinforcements, but how certain could they be that these reinforcements would arrive in time to help with Suleiman upon them? We certainly didn't hear much about those reinforcements after the battle. Instead of noting how well they did while greatly outnumbered, Suleiman was esteemed for winning with a huge advantage in numbers.
@buddha4tw
@buddha4tw 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these types of shows on You Tube, for us amateur's it's really a great starting point to get interested in history, well done.
@NerfMaster000
@NerfMaster000 8 жыл бұрын
Genghis Khan and the unification of Mongolia.
@monkeyorful
@monkeyorful 8 жыл бұрын
everybody knows this story...
@DemagogueBibleStudy
@DemagogueBibleStudy 8 жыл бұрын
+monkeyo Archon Not really.
@NerfMaster000
@NerfMaster000 7 жыл бұрын
Yes there is! His early life is perfect for a series like this.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 8 жыл бұрын
The Dome of the Rock was built by Suleiman ? So how can it be here when we conquer Jerusalem in Age of Empires II during Saladin's campaign ? Anachronism ?
@aaa1e2r3
@aaa1e2r3 8 жыл бұрын
+scarfacemperor Technically it was built during the Seige of Jerusalem during the 600's, it was then taken over by Christians during the Crusades, to then be taken back by Suleiman who had construction on the place transforming it into the appearance as we see it today
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 8 жыл бұрын
He didn't build the entire building but he did renovate it, Suliman is the person who added the iconic golden dome
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the details. It does have the iconic golden dome in AOE2, I guess that's a mistake from the developpers
@robertwalpole360
@robertwalpole360 8 жыл бұрын
+katten elvis Right you are.
@reichcommisar
@reichcommisar 8 жыл бұрын
+scarfacemperor he rebuild it it was in disrepair by the time of suleiman.
@Nate303
@Nate303 8 жыл бұрын
Who needs seven degrees of Kevin bacon when walplole is everywhere
@AVALON81159
@AVALON81159 6 жыл бұрын
You've made a tale of triumph,love and unspeakable violence and horror lyrical. Just brilliant. Thank you.
@-nomi.-
@-nomi.- 8 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on perhaps the best Extra History series you've done. You guys have really outdone yourself.
@utkugulgec5508
@utkugulgec5508 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos about Suleiman was really cool. Story telling was really hooking. I did not see any major mistakes on the story. This is coming from a Turkish.
@algallontheobserver3780
@algallontheobserver3780 8 жыл бұрын
These videos made me want to start a campaign as Suleiman in Civ5 lol.
@jandenuijl4287
@jandenuijl4287 8 жыл бұрын
Me to but with eu4
@unematrix
@unematrix 8 жыл бұрын
his navy, dude, unbeatable
@bosscascade5566
@bosscascade5566 8 жыл бұрын
+unematrix not if you pull off Byzantine play through
@barleysixseventwo6665
@barleysixseventwo6665 8 жыл бұрын
We need a patreon milestone where you guys go back and redub the measurement scenes with batman, and accompanying visuals. But then that might mean less history.
@soogymoogi
@soogymoogi 8 жыл бұрын
+Barley Sixseventwo Honestly I'm feeling inspired to really just go in and take the voice clips of James saying "Batman" and some stock clip art stuff and do it myself now. Thank you, random youtube commenter.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 8 жыл бұрын
+Barley Sixseventwo That is a dilemma. More history...or Batman. Tough call.
@ViperGTS737
@ViperGTS737 8 жыл бұрын
you guys really need to do an episode about Al Andalus, or about the Abbasid or Ummayed Caliphate
@fnfdmgjfndf
@fnfdmgjfndf 8 жыл бұрын
All these stories about old rulers also being poets (of varying quality) makes me wonder if it's something I should take up myself. I doubt I'd ever be particularly good at it, but it's crossed my mind a few times now and I can't help but wonder if dabbling in it would help me grow in some way. I guess I'll find out if I ever actually start doing it. On another note, as a catholic and long-term fan of the series, I have plenty of faith that you guys will do a good job on portraying the schism, and am hoping I'll finally get a hang of the miaphysite and monophysite views and histories. Keep up the great work!
@Timrath
@Timrath 8 жыл бұрын
+fnfdmgjfndf Do you have something exciting to share? Do you have a natural talent for putting difficult concepts into words? Do you have an exceptionally large vocabulary? Can you name at least 50 poems that have given you a strong emotional reaction when you read them? If the answer to any of these questions is "no", then I'd suggest you do something else with your time. Poetry is an art. You need to be gifted, intelligent, diligent and hard-working to produce something worthwhile. I notice that you do have impeccable grammar and spelling, which is a good start. So, what about the other ingredients?
@Azusartcorner
@Azusartcorner 8 жыл бұрын
+Timrath Quite a narrow view, don't you think? All these things can come with practice, after all, and you're basically telling him to not even bother, because he (potentially) hasn't obtained these criteria to make him a poet yet. Sounds like a catch 22 impostor to me. And I'd like to discount "being able to name 50 poems that have moved you" as an actual criteria to produce good poetry. Yes, having read a lot of poetry will improve a person's skill, but I still don't think this is a must.
@sudika
@sudika 2 жыл бұрын
Great series again, thanks! One correction (not sure if somebody mentioned already) : he died at the siege of Szigetvár, not Szeged. It is remembered in Hungarian history as a loss that prevented an even bigger loss and saved Vienna. On the outskirts of the besieged fortress today there is a Park of Hungarian - Turkish Friendship
@angelcollina
@angelcollina 8 жыл бұрын
I love these lies episodes! I wish they were longer! I could listen to you talk about stuff all day. :3
@toureiro
@toureiro 8 жыл бұрын
Whaaaaaaat?!?!?! That's why the church bells ring at noon??? Omg, I've heard them my whole life and never knew.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 8 жыл бұрын
+Ricardo Toureiro I don't know it for fact, but I suspect the Pope learned like a month later that he never rescinded that order. And by that point it was too awkward to say anything. And then entire generations passed, to the point where everyone just figured that noon bell ringing was completely normal.
@nellgwyn2723
@nellgwyn2723 4 жыл бұрын
I live near several churches and always wondered about the bells at noon, assuming it must have been to tell people the time - knowing what it was about now just makes it amazing! Thanks, i'll get to think of that once a day now :)
@mr.lello3339
@mr.lello3339 8 жыл бұрын
Please do Germany and Otto Von Bismarck.
@thegeneralissimo6172
@thegeneralissimo6172 8 жыл бұрын
BLOOD AND IRON
@mr.lello3339
@mr.lello3339 8 жыл бұрын
BLOOD AND IRON
@emirkaya2483
@emirkaya2483 8 жыл бұрын
yes please
@gavin169
@gavin169 8 жыл бұрын
(you gots to go to Patreon and vote on it to choose an episode)
@StrimClocks
@StrimClocks 8 жыл бұрын
We need the man of Blood and Iron.
@Sylocat
@Sylocat 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your trying to get into the emotional state of the people rather than just expositing facts (and I certainly see why it was appropriate in this case, given that we know far more about Suleiman's inner life than most other historical figures covered here), but I still think you could have devoted some of that framing device, in the middle episodes, to at least namedropping a little more of that stuff about Suleiman's poetry and how he expanded education in the Ottoman Empire and how he granted increased protections to Christians and Jews and so on. Oddly, I think it might have helped the framing device go over better if you had mentioned early on why you were using it, like, working in a mention of his poetry or something.
@svitrai
@svitrai 8 жыл бұрын
Was nice to hear about Hungary from a different perspective. I'm from Hungary and the history lessons can usually be summed up as "Poor Hungary always got the shorter end against it's enemies". Especially concerning the Turkish invasion, there's a "tradition" of referring to them as the "Turkish horde/menace". Even though I think we got awesome baths and foods and actually some economic improvement at the time.
@jastynbala8949
@jastynbala8949 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this series! I'm currently doing a research report on Suleiman and this has me motivated to learn more about him. I love the focus on his internal reflections, it added a lot to the series as a whole. Keep doing what you're doing!
@michaelt.5672
@michaelt.5672 7 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the "That spanish prince"-issue; In Germany (or rather, what was to become "Germany" later), people thought of him as spanish too. Or at least, as a weird foreigner. When he brought his court and manners to Germany, people were confused and alienated by them. Hence, the German version of "That's Greek to me" is "That seems spanish to me".
@cigarchompingpenguin
@cigarchompingpenguin 8 жыл бұрын
I know it was very polarizing for people, but I loved the framing device. It made Suleiman seem human rather than another name in a collection of history books.
@Westwoodshadowgaming
@Westwoodshadowgaming 7 жыл бұрын
I know this is off topic, but i just have to say i am in awe of your intellect. You are an amazing thinker with the ability to deeply understand (seemingly) everything around you. I marvel at the way your brain works and at how you are able to approach things from such a well rounded view.
@muhammadgheith2492
@muhammadgheith2492 8 жыл бұрын
Holy stone-measurements, Batman!
@janekgreen
@janekgreen 8 жыл бұрын
This series was fantastic! This narrative style really conveyed the story perfectly and it was very easy to draw conclusions from, and understand more deeply this part of our history. I wish the history in our institutions would be taught this way. I hope you continue these series and bring the wisdom of the past to the present.
@michaelkennedy6759
@michaelkennedy6759 8 жыл бұрын
I loved the style of this series. Please, do this again. It was a great way of telling this story.
@JimFaindel
@JimFaindel 8 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you have now adopted the Walpole connection segment to your every work.
@charmer56
@charmer56 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much for teaching us Suleiman The Magnificent from your perspective. Loved every second
@RatherEmpty
@RatherEmpty 8 жыл бұрын
I love these 'Lies' videos :3
@rossmallo
@rossmallo 8 жыл бұрын
We need to bring Batman back as a unit of measurement.
@zainkhan5692
@zainkhan5692 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever criticisms you have about suleiman and despite some of his regrets he was overall a great and just leader and he brought amazing things to the world
@AhJong0
@AhJong0 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the narrative format of this series, makes history feel more personal and less detached.
@OsKuukkeli
@OsKuukkeli 8 жыл бұрын
Can I get a Winter War extra history? :3 Pretty please!
@asafkatz9984
@asafkatz9984 8 жыл бұрын
+OsKuukkeli Molotov cocktail.
@MrEntinen
@MrEntinen 8 жыл бұрын
+Feetuska because nobody else cares ;)
@asafkatz9984
@asafkatz9984 8 жыл бұрын
+MrEntinen actually as an Israeli I can admit that I care, because I think it's quite amazing how the Finns managed to hold out against the Soviets for so long.
@asafkatz9984
@asafkatz9984 8 жыл бұрын
***** Well you are kinda right... but in the end day, the Soviets won.
@brettd2308
@brettd2308 8 жыл бұрын
+Asaf Katz One of the most fascinating aspects of the Winter War, to me, is just how close it came to causing France & Great Britain to declare war on the USSR, which would've had huge implications for WW2. They were actively aiding Finland and planning an expeditionary force to fight the Soviets - at this time, the USSR was still seen as a German ally b/c of how they helped invade Poland. It wasn't until Germany invaded Denmark & Norway that they had to call off the plans.
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 8 жыл бұрын
"The ruling king that sees in another his equivalent rules nothing." - Vivec, TES III Morrowind.
@Spectral352
@Spectral352 8 жыл бұрын
10:36 So that's why the little church next to my place keeps annoying me at every noon. Good to know. I live in Germany by the way.
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 8 жыл бұрын
Lol, they do that even in the US. I highly doubt any of them know the reason anymore.
@therainbowwillow4453
@therainbowwillow4453 5 жыл бұрын
No one even knows what the bells are for anymore! Our bells go off downtown everyday, even though I live on the USA west coast!
@LondonFriendsWalks
@LondonFriendsWalks 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@alexparamount
@alexparamount 8 жыл бұрын
i love the extra history series. and it ever ceased to amaze me what good choices people make when it comes to choosing the next series. good for you, people of the internet!
@Freekymoho
@Freekymoho 8 жыл бұрын
i think the thing about the janissaries 'recruitment' methods is probably because both opinions were held. To some people they saw their children taken off to a better life, to others a ruthless dictator just took your kid and condemned him to a life as a soldier. I dont think either reaction is invalid really, seeing as the families had no choice in the matter.
@utkua
@utkua 7 жыл бұрын
you know ? Did you see it or head stories of it. If that was common practice, every man in your country would miss a limb, that kind of liability would make more damage, and graves would be full of skeletons as evidence. So most likely that is bullshit.
@ahmh1000
@ahmh1000 8 жыл бұрын
This episode was really needed.
@piotrr4509
@piotrr4509 8 жыл бұрын
I think this arc of Extra History was the best
@titicoqui
@titicoqui 3 жыл бұрын
so so well done at once instructive and entertaining
@herbivorethecarnivore8447
@herbivorethecarnivore8447 8 жыл бұрын
I only just realized the series was over because this video came out. I thought it was still going.
@drakan4769
@drakan4769 8 жыл бұрын
+Herbivore The Carnivore yeah, I thought it would cover how that battle ended at least (well, they put that in a comment here at least)
@floundericiouswa5694
@floundericiouswa5694 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that whole fade to black and "he would never know the outcome " was a giveaway in the last episode
@JRedNose
@JRedNose 8 жыл бұрын
+Drakan R That, and I was also kinda curious about how his succession would turn out... throw in the reactions from Europe and there was easily enough content for another episode there, though I guess it would've been hard to keep it in the same "theme" as the other episodes... hrm... Oh, well, Wikipedia, here I come!
@theanonymousmrgrape5911
@theanonymousmrgrape5911 8 жыл бұрын
I think it would be awesome if there were a series on Henry Clay. He's an incredible figure from American history that successfully kept the country from going to war during his lifetime.
@patrioticrex305
@patrioticrex305 6 жыл бұрын
Why this channel didn't pop up in my feed before. Great videos. Keep them coming
@tobyhanks8728
@tobyhanks8728 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, loving these series and loving how you own your mistakes with solid reasoning in these "Lies" series. Keep it up EC
@tonysladky8925
@tonysladky8925 8 жыл бұрын
One thing I hadn't thought of until seeing it in "Lies" juxtaposed with the discussion of how this was a fairly early attempt at modernizing an army: Would the cannon have been transported largely set up like that? Or was that more artistic license so they could be recognized as something other than giant wagons? I know from Civil War reenactments and games set in the Napoleonic era and beyond that cannon of those eras were very collapsible. Just curious if that was a feature going back to these fairly early cannon or something implemented later.
@fireops
@fireops 8 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Sladky I did some quick research. So apparently the "Dardanelles Guns" or "Great Turkish Bombard" that is seen in the videos came in two pieces; the powder chamber and the barrel, and they were connected by a screw mechanism. However, sometimes those super-zised bombards were cast on-site. They were usually only part of artillery batteries that consist of many other guns. They were only able to fire about a dozen times a day (they apparently needed to be rubbed down with olive oil) since otherwise they would crack, and it was the smaller artillery that did most of the actual work. While still doing a decent amount of damage in sieges, these giant guns were more of a psychological weapon, since when employed by themselves, their rate of fire was so slow, the defenders could patch the walls before the gun was reloaded and ready to fire. TL:DR They came in two pieces that could be screwed together, so yeah, artistic license, aka "LIE!"
@SecretOwl2023
@SecretOwl2023 8 жыл бұрын
James, the terms you are looking for is the "Personalization" of politics vs. the modern concept of "Rule of Law". Old monarchs and many contemporary dictators see the state as an extension of themselves and their desires rather than existing independently. By contrast, rule of law is built on the idea that states are products of popular sovereignty and the laws and needs of the state exist separately from any given ruler. While I agree that this distinction is important historically, I think it would be a mistake to propagate the idea that modern states are completely devoid of personalization as though it is a binary choice. Every nation, even to this day, has elements of both systems: U.S. Presidents historically have personalized the presidency in many ways for example.
@mondazan
@mondazan 8 жыл бұрын
I liked the direction you took. More invested in the protagonist keep em coming dudes
@timschrunk5059
@timschrunk5059 Ай бұрын
This is why applied psychology would fit so well with history. Even if we do not fully know a person's actions directly, you can still get an idea based on other accounts and personal accounts and behavioral patterns. For example knowing that anger is often a secondary emotion and based on Suleiman's actions and regrets as painted here. It shows that he was fearful of the future and how he did not want to let go of his reigns. He loved dearly, but without his support, without opening up about his fears to his friend, Ibrahim, it grew into a blinding emotion that lead to his downfall. Suleiman was prideful of his family and his love. To draw a parallel to another ruler, Shah Jahan had a similar experience, except he had built the Taj Mahal. Though separated by 108 years between each person's rule, they both set cultural achievements and wealth. Both had loved a concubine more than their wives. Each had mourned and changed from their tragedy. Marking certain points that showed the cracks in their personalities and depressions. Great men are still men at the end.
@jamesrobillardjr
@jamesrobillardjr 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This episode inspired the last argument I needed to complete an essay on Rome as a republic versus the empire.
@timothyheimbach3260
@timothyheimbach3260 8 жыл бұрын
we have no problem with two part series.
@TheThunderbirdRising
@TheThunderbirdRising 8 жыл бұрын
You should do a extra history on the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth
@TheThunderbirdRising
@TheThunderbirdRising 8 жыл бұрын
Angus Rhodes Awww. Gee darn it
@iamYOURfathertoo
@iamYOURfathertoo 8 жыл бұрын
I would love it if you did a series on El Cid Campeador, Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar. His story is perhaps the most formidable medieval yarn to have ever occurred; Loyalty, treason, fighting against the infidels, fighting FOR the infidels, politics, war, bravery... He was truly an amazing person.
@ZCid47
@ZCid47 8 жыл бұрын
I love the new style of narration, plase do more
@eylam90
@eylam90 6 жыл бұрын
I throughly enjoyed your stylistic choice with this series, its great to have rulers who shared their inner world with us which we can look at in parallel to their historical achievemnts. I would like to reccomend sometime in the future that you give a similar treatment to Ivan "The terrible", he also wrote a lot of his thoughts.
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier 6 жыл бұрын
I can't blame anybody for deciding they didn't like the more narrative style, but I can say, I enjoyed it a lot. And so did my friend, who wasn't much into history. Then, they started bringing history videos, to me, because we've watched so much Extra History. Even if you think the artistic flourishes interfered with some of the 'signal', leading to less factual information about the wider situation and whatnot being communicated, some signal that's interesting will reach a far broader audience than just facts and numbers and names. Especially in History, a subject which is tarnished unfairly as 'real boring, dude'.
@RegalisReg18
@RegalisReg18 8 жыл бұрын
Props for using Final Fantasy XI sound tracks as background music! It made my day! Appreciate the little things. #nostalgia
@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158
@imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, can there be a series about both the Caesars? I love Rome, and I would definitely love to see that!
@anotherwesley7661
@anotherwesley7661 6 жыл бұрын
This series was masterfully done, and the questions posed well worth asking. :)
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 8 жыл бұрын
Did you pronounce "nuclear" as *"nucular"*?! JAMES IS GEORGE W BUSH CONFIRMED!
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 8 жыл бұрын
Hello! I understand that you don't want to give 12 episodes to every Great Man, but please, when you get to talk about Bolívar and the Independence War, I ask you to split it into 12 episodes because in Venezuela there were 3 wars + The Great Colombia and 6 episodes aren't enough to cover that. The other reason is that (with the exception of Bolívar, Carlos Soublette, Pedro Gual, the Monagas brothers and probably Rafael Urdaneta), the men that were behind the first and second wars of independence in Venezuela were different from the ones behind the third war of independence. People like Miranda, José Félix Ribas, Andrés Bello, etc. were either dead or exiled from Venezuela when the third war started (something that Bolívar reflected upon in 1825). By the time of the third war started, the man that appeared would have a big influence on Venezuela during the 19th century (like José Antonio Páez) and I think it would be good to show them so people could understand how important they were for the war effort. In the case of The Great Colombia, if you split the series into 12 episodes, you could dive into the reasons why the Great Colombia failed and even talk about what happened in Venezuela between 1821 - 1830 (You MUST mention Antonio Leocadio Guzmán, he would have a big influence in Venezuela during the 19th century and by mentioning him you could have a chance to talk about his son Antonio Guzmán Blanco). By Splitting Bolivar´s life into 12 episodes you can even end the story with an open ending so people could be interested in what happened to Venezuela after Bolívar died. Trust me, people would either love it, or wish that there were a game around it. I know that this sound to ambitious, but I would like that not only Bolívar's life (and a possible mention of those who preceded him attempting to liberate Venezuela) is well represented but that People could find interest in hearing the history of Venezuela during the 19th century because it should be more known (like the history of any nation of Latin America). Thanks for reading and have a nice day.
@syferpolski4344
@syferpolski4344 8 жыл бұрын
+Lucciano Bartolini South American Independence wars would be interesting to see, I only remember them mentioned in history lessons
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 8 жыл бұрын
Syfer Polski And what do they mention? just curious.
@howiefang7825
@howiefang7825 8 жыл бұрын
Loved the sulieman series. Great work.
@conroypaw
@conroypaw 6 жыл бұрын
I thought this series was very dramatic and insightful. I would very much love to see a follow up to Suleiman, the Ottoman Empire, and the centuries of decline that lead to the establishment of modern Turkey.
@lordshell
@lordshell 8 жыл бұрын
Please. Do Colonel Von Lettow-Vorbeck. Don't make me beg.
@rolandherbert5699
@rolandherbert5699 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah The great Guerrilla warfare General
@torreyance2468
@torreyance2468 7 жыл бұрын
great series keep it up. the narrative was excellent. how about a library of books on the background would look better than the background. anywho history telling should be like this show. interesting, informative, engaging.
@nitfens6863
@nitfens6863 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this series and found it very enlightening. I was surprised though, as well as humored by the irony, that the biggest mistake of the series was in the Lies episode. Suleiman did indeed build the walls and gates of Jerusalem that stand to this day, but he did not build The Dome of the Rock. The Dome of the Rock was built nearly 900 years before Suleiman's reign during the Umayyad caliphate(which i hope you cover), and had withstood many crusades and conquests before Suleiman had even thought of building projects in Jerusalem.
@timlamiam
@timlamiam 8 жыл бұрын
by all means keep making 12 parters. I like the in depth detail that you get in to.
@billylegott5843
@billylegott5843 8 жыл бұрын
I love u guy ur about to hit 1 million also nice shirt
@pineappleguy7495
@pineappleguy7495 7 жыл бұрын
I want someone to bring the story to the theatre, I loved it.
@D64nz
@D64nz 7 жыл бұрын
As a study of macro- economics this would be a great to learn how and why a great society goes into what seems like a certain decline. At a guess I'd think perhaps it is simply overextended, but it's something I think we don't really understand well today. So many modern countries have stretched themselves so thin there is no way they can continue to support themselves.
@haadnaqvi1323
@haadnaqvi1323 8 жыл бұрын
there was so much to cover in lies and so quickly that I feel like we almost didn't learn much about him in the series, the episodes were useful to someone who had some basic knowledge on him, the crusaders series was much better organized, even if someone had not heard of them before they would walk away with a lot of working knowledge. Still enjoy the series
@Inucroft
@Inucroft 8 жыл бұрын
*Points at Regan* *Points at McCarthy* Yes, eliminates paranoia.
@glhf2
@glhf2 8 жыл бұрын
+03germas Agreed. Seriously, the idea that paranoid is less in this era rather than further back in history is just absurd.
@yiyang4501
@yiyang4501 7 жыл бұрын
Or points to Lincoln and Kennedy. Paranoia still justified.
@okhmgm88
@okhmgm88 8 жыл бұрын
look as a Muslim I want to thank you of a well researched series I enjoyed it
@JustMe-um8zp
@JustMe-um8zp 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these stories, and the "lies" episodes.Tidbit: Martin Luther most likely did nail his 95 thesis to the door of the church (need a trip on the TARDIS to confirm it though). However, such an act is nothing like it would be today: a nigh sacrilegious thing. Back then, the doors of a town's local church was the common place to put up various notifications, acting like the headlines of news articles today. Everything from new tax laws to general notifications (possibly even "lost cat" posters, or at least their equivalent). Even though the rate of literacy at the time was still low in the Germanic areas, folks would gather around, and those townsfolk (or the local priest, who would almost certainly be literate) would read all the notices to the town. So it was likely that church doors were covered in various notices, like we have today on telephone poles or kiosks.Even if Luther never actually posted his thesis on the door of the church, his intent was the same: he saw corruption in the church and how he felt members of the church had lost touch with the message that was to be spread, and wanted the church to take account of themselves. He was hoping to get the church (only Catholic at the time) to check themselves on this situation. He wasn't trying to break up the church, he only wanted to reform the church. However, since the folks in power didn't want to give up their money and status, it lead to a breaking of the church (catholic and protestant). Also, he wasn't the only, nor the first monk or priest to have these ideas, but his timing coincided with the use of the moveable type printing press, so his ideas were able to be spread so quickly that simply executing him wouldn't squash the ideas and questions he was asking.Keep up the great work, I love the enthusiasm that shines through on all the Extra History episodes!
@rza884
@rza884 8 жыл бұрын
can you guys talk about salahudin or saladin
@shahansindhi8141
@shahansindhi8141 5 жыл бұрын
rza884 we did a series about the Crusades
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