Carmen Turner-Schott discusses the Sun in the 12th house in the astrological birth chart.
Пікірлер: 437
@rineh86793 жыл бұрын
I am a 64 yr "young"woman. My youth was difficult and lonely . I recently filed for divorce from an 43 yr marriage. I had a covert abusive partner. I learned since my 40s that my Sun, Venus, Mercury and SN are the 12th. So I was an easy target. But I have grown and finally strong enough to leave! I have kids with special needs, so I have a very 12th house life. But I think it is my mission in this life to learn to balance between being of service for others and setting boundaries for myself. I think I am finally on my way now!
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Wow as I read this I got chills! I am so proud of you and your strength! You can help many people and should share your story I am sorry you had to go through the pain but happy to hear you are free www.8and12houses.com
@vtx54754 ай бұрын
Wow that's pretty intense. I have Sun and Venus in 12th House so know a bit about your struggles. I'm just learning about boundaries and understanding that I can be of service to others. We all have our time, and those experiences make us the unique people we are. Wishing you a very bright future
@monharris286 жыл бұрын
Wow, you just described my life. From the father situation, loneliness, psychic ability, needing solitude, etc. for most of my life I've felt like a freak, but I'm now in mid 30s and finally understanding my journey fully. It's been so tough, but through my pain always came power and enlightenment. It's been lonely, but I know my guides are guiding me from the other side. Thanks for the video!
@CarmenTurnerSchott6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing :)
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 жыл бұрын
My new book about 12th house is out for pre order I think you would like it www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
@jamaalharmon63059 жыл бұрын
My sun is in the 12th house and I had a father who was off in the military and his "rage" and "anger" would always separate us. When I tried to connect with him as he got older and contracted pancreatic cancer (he mysteriously died during his Saturn (libra) return, just before my Saturn return (scorpio)). I believe in you Astrology!
@S0l11225 жыл бұрын
Jamaal Harmon thank you for sharing your story with us.
@DaisyTheFlower987 жыл бұрын
I'm a Leo sun in the 12th house and it makes me kind of bummed when I get stereotyped with the loud and crazy Leo's. I'm extremely reserved and I agree that I am mysterious. My father worked overnight ever since I was born so he slept all day and I rarely got to see him awake. When he was awake he looked dead from working so much. Aside from that he was extremely, strict. Im 19 now and we meet sometimes on holidays. I also agree with the feeling like youre floating around as a child, my whole childhood feels like a dream to the point where I don't even really remember it. You're spot on 🐵
@Dudebrointhesky5 жыл бұрын
hehe I love your screen name. I am also a 12th house Leo so I can definitely relate to what you say here.
@omegasbeaudin5 жыл бұрын
Sameeee I’m a Leo sun in the 12th house
@ajnbud86384 жыл бұрын
Damn I feel this whole comment
@pareshingle53404 жыл бұрын
this is so true, I'm a Leo with Sun in the 12th, didn't have a really good connection with my father just a few experiences here and there and that's true too about childhood feeling like a dream.
@roseofvenus20604 жыл бұрын
Same!! Leo sun 12th house as well!
@KindlyKimberlyMomOf75 жыл бұрын
All my life I thought I had social anxiety, that I was antisocial, then an introvert...got into astrology and now it all makes since. Sun Pisces. Took me 35 years to figure this out!
@CarmenTurnerSchott5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🌹💙 please join my FB groups 12th astrological house and 8th House Deep Soul Divers
@rustyzproductionz27348 жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful video. I just recently got my birthtime and found out that my sun is in my 12th house. It's so uncanny. I've always wanted to be an actor/filmmaker(I make films with my close friends), and/or work in the medical field. I am studying Physical Therapy.
@CarmenTurnerSchott8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I am so happy you enjoyed it :) Many blessings to you fellow 12th house Sun :)
@rustyzproductionz27348 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You too.
@ilanavoltz24624 жыл бұрын
RustyzProductionz I’m also thinking about study physical therapy
@rae77017 жыл бұрын
i have four planets including sun in the 12th house. i have never met my father due to him being an alcoholic and inflicting abuse on my mother..this is amazing really truly resonated with me in all ways. thank you!
@sreekumarip8803 жыл бұрын
Every thing you said is very true .I have sun and venus in the twelfth house .spirituality is the only way to overcome every negativity in life that's very true.If we truly connected with God we never feel lonely.
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🌹 www.8and12houses.com
@olgapotapova2183 жыл бұрын
As someone who has a stellium in the 12th house in Libra and Scorpio, as a child in school I would pick up the handwriting of my desk partner - every time a student would change, so would my writing. My father's parenting style made a tremendous impact on my self-esteem (or should I say a lack of it), ability to express or voice myself, and hardship with identity and life purpose. Only when he passed away in my early 20's did I freely began my slow journey of self discovery and was able to forgive him completely, realizing it had nothing to do with him but my own lessons to live. As I journeyed into adulthood, spirituality became my most needed place of refuge in various life's crisises - from health to relationships - and the bliss and fulfilment I would encounter at times is not comparable to anything of this world! Since childhood, I would be fascinated with holy people, monks and recluses. Often, as I speak, I sort of leave my body and start observing myself from a distance - a very uncomfortable sensation. And I would always prefer solitude to any activity. At the same time, I'm painfully connected to everything and everyone in the world. I'm burdened by people's suffering and find a need to constantly pray on the world's behalf in order to, hopefully, alleviate some of it. Nevertheless, with each year of my life, I feel myself ripening in my true potential, and as if life is just beginning for me... No regrets, no blame, no doubts - only blessings in disguise...🙏
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this 🌹 As a Sun in 12th my self I can relate a lot with what you say and felt I hope you can visit my website I have a few articles and a FB 12th house group www.8and12houses.com
@curiouslyunruffled4 жыл бұрын
This is the most endearing and articulate talk on the 12th House Sun I've ever come across. I'm so glad this video exists, you're a gifted communicator. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with the world, Carmen. ❤️
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Priya Verma Thank you so much for your sweet words! You made my day! 🌹💙😊 www.8and12houses.com
@curiouslyunruffled4 жыл бұрын
@@CarmenTurnerSchott likewise, can't wait to read your articles. Thank you for sharing! 🤗🌻
@AngelHonolulu3 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. 💕
@HelenaNicoll4 жыл бұрын
I also think that for the ones with the Sun on the 12th house the father it’s missing and have issues with their Mother as well, either she’s absent most of the time - like an abandon kids for years or just a personality that didn’t match and create disputes and struggles
@alonsogutierrez75044 жыл бұрын
Leo 12 house I was raised by my grandmother I have never lived with my parents and also my dad is not my Real dad my mom had an affair
@vickytheofilopoulou89787 жыл бұрын
im a cancer sun in the 12th house. most of what your said is so true about me. the father, the loneliness the extreme compassion, the detachment from reality. ive been saying for years to those around me that i feel like im out of my body, that i feel like im having a dream all the time and they dont get it. i dont even know how it is to be "here now". and that makes me feel completely alone. my problem is, i dont like spirituality. i spent two years in that and it just didnt do it for me. i love individuality, being different, being special i like bad traits of people because they make them more interesting. the whole oneness and spirituality thing sounds too perfect and boring to me. i like drama and aside the compassion i feel for others, i am definitely full of dreams and desires that are for my self. and i would never let my self and my needs down for others because i care about my self just as much i care for others. if i would want to teach something to the people around me, that would be, how to be completely selfish but recognizing that everything around you is a part of your self.
@user-ee7ho3vd4e6 жыл бұрын
Vicky Theofilopoulou The part about feeling being in a dream rather than here and now is so true.
@baggal223 жыл бұрын
I’m a cancer sun in the 12 too so you are a Leo rising too
@Ketch22k2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that put your 4th house/ ic in scorpio? That need for drama could be linked to that. It feels like home. "Comfort" in the uncomfortable. It was your normal.
@ashleyatmo Жыл бұрын
Same! I suppose I used to be self-sacrificing when I was younger (24/25 now) Even then I felt fed up at some point. I kinda am calculated at this point now 😂. I do have trines to jupiter and read that Lilith in the 3rd house makes me a bit more detached at some point. Also have Aries Moon n Saturn aspects to my 12th house Stellium :)
@datdat20205 жыл бұрын
I loved how soft your were talking...So soft and whispery...Like you are telling us a secret. (Sun-Conjunct Merc in the 12th. Saturn in the 8th)
@KissMyAstral3 ай бұрын
Two Sun in the 12th house girlies here and this rings so true. We love hearing fellow 12th house people talk about our mysterious homes 🤍 Thank you for sharing your light!
@carlab307 жыл бұрын
The detaching from your body is so true. Now that I'm older, I can actually control it and go where I want when I want to.
@CarmenTurnerSchott7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Carin. Please join my 12th Astrological Group on FB. my website is www.8and12houses.com :) Blessings Carmen
@carlab307 жыл бұрын
Carmen Turner-Schott I just sent a request to join. Love your channel.
@comedywithnat6 жыл бұрын
Carla B. How have you learned to control it?
@Fifou25256 жыл бұрын
astral projection?
@jupiterian58313 жыл бұрын
How do you detach from your body?
@ConsciousCandice3 ай бұрын
This is the most accurate sun in 12th house video I've seen. Wow. Thank you. So interesting about the out of body experience especially in large crowds. I tend to zone out and feel like everything is a dream when I'm in a very crowded environment or when too many people are around me. Something in me just disconnects. After I had my son via an emergency C section, my doula told me "I'm not in my body". She said she could tell I wasn't connected to my body and I wasn't even looking at my scar. I guess it was my way of coping. I don't even remember feeling pain after the C section besides the first morning. After that I felt fine. The nurses even cautioned me to not be too rough with my body. I was really disconnected 😢😢. Thank you for this ❤
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 ай бұрын
@ConsciousCandace thank you for sharing ❤️ I am happy you found it helpful You would love my 12th house book! Here is the link amzn.to/43TXvUc
@ConsciousCandice3 ай бұрын
@@CarmenTurnerSchott thanks so much I will definitely check it out 😊
@JPJustHumble4 жыл бұрын
I have Sun in Pisces in the 12th house Mercury in Pisces in the 12th house Pisces Rising at 29 degrees I cried silently the first time I saw this video. I love/understand this lady, I am thankful. Bless your sol.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🌹💙
@elijimenez77103 жыл бұрын
Awe! You are so special boo! Blessings 🙏🏾
@JPJustHumble3 жыл бұрын
@@elijimenez7710 I am thankful
@AngelHonolulu3 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if you intentionally mis-spelled soul bc for some reason, “bless your sol” is hitting me in such a beautiful way. (Yeah, 12H Leo Sun here, lol 😂)
@JPJustHumble3 жыл бұрын
@@AngelHonolulu I did. I am thankful
@1MahaDas5 жыл бұрын
I have Sun fallen in Libra in the 12th. My relationship with my dad was terrible as I could never do anything right by him. Everything I did was never good enough for him and was always criticized. I lost all self-confidence and career interests yielded minimal success. I have served others through alternative therapies without remuneration even though I sought to do this work professionally.
@barbellbrat8 жыл бұрын
I have 4 planets here, I'm dead.
@CarmenTurnerSchott8 жыл бұрын
Your special not dead ❤️ Join me in my Facebook groups I have one just for 12th house people www.8and12houses.com
@gndoumit8 жыл бұрын
Me too Sun pluto neptune and dark moon Lilith Yipes!
@Geekella7 жыл бұрын
Ayat Alkazzaz i have 4 planets here too. i totally feel ya
@OmegaAmanita7 жыл бұрын
I have Sun, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune, and Ketu (South Node) in the 12th house and they are all in Aquarius
@babagold74296 жыл бұрын
shut up
@caterinatitus19919 ай бұрын
So accurate about father in childhood! Also, I never understood the expression "Put yourself in someone else's shoes" when I was younger, as I couldn't tell the difference between their shoes and mine. Learning boundaries has been a lifelong journey, and often painful. You describe everything so clearly, and yes - it's very encouraging to meet other sun in the 12th house people! Thank you so much.
@CarmenTurnerSchott9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing 🌹❤️
@smitholbee3 жыл бұрын
I’m sun in the 12th house too. Though my dad isn’t ‘missing or absent’ mentally he felt very much absent. I’ve always felt like I don’t know my dad. What you said about the work addiction it was like you were looking into my past lol.
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing you might like my books and website www.8and12houses.com
@tinagol56962 ай бұрын
This is very much me. So thankful for your work and explanation.
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing :)
@wildangel44524 жыл бұрын
Yea I’ve detached severally from my body. Interestingly it helped me leave an abusive relationship. I stepped out of my body in the middle Of an argument and saw my future with this person. Left the relationship that day.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
MyLucid Ng Thank you for sharing 💙🌹
@jupiterian58313 жыл бұрын
How do you detach from your body?
@mouse929646 жыл бұрын
So very true. I am a Libra Sun in 12 th, Scorpio rising & cancer moon 9th house. Neptune in 1st. I have always felt lost & I am very sensitive & I pick up on people's &. Animals moods way to easily. In some ways it is good but most of the time it is very hard to try to distance myself. Thank you for this video.
@CarmenTurnerSchott6 жыл бұрын
mouse92964 thank you for sharing Join me in my 8th house deep Soul Divers group
@pankajtak88595 жыл бұрын
I have same sun in 12th Libra placement
@villedewaraich4 жыл бұрын
Thats my exact placement too 😎
@xxEvangelineRxx9 жыл бұрын
Wow, I really feel like we're kindred spirits because I'm a Aries Sun in 12th House with Aries Moon, too! Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom with all of us... And you're right about depression, you're right about the loneliness and not feeling like you 'fit in'... And I MUST have my private time, I guard it jealously...! You're also right about being service-oriented... I'm in the teaching line... I teach children, too... Thank you again for this video, Carmen :)
@CarmenTurnerSchott9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words :) please join me in my Facebook groups :) visit my site www.8and12houses.com/home to find my groups on right side. I have several astrology groups and you would love! I'm Aries Moon so always click with Aries Sun :)
@luthienanarion65813 жыл бұрын
Never have I felt so deeply understood! Thank you for this video, dear Carmen!
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🌹💙 www.8and12houses.com
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 жыл бұрын
I have a new 12th house book available for pre-order- I think you will like it. www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=sr_1_6?crid=F4L32DNRCHF9&keywords=12th+house+astrology&qid=1640622118&s=books&sprefix=12th+house%2Cstripbooks%2C94&sr=1-6
@saphirstone173 жыл бұрын
I've never heard a better explanation of the 12th house that was so accurate! I can agree with every point. Thank you so much! Such a soft spoken voice 😍.. About the father figure: my father wasn't absent but I had an overly demanding mother so everything was all about her (moon in Capricorn). But after she passed away that changed completely. I've a strong bond with my father now and we phone every day since years now. Things can change! I felt the 12th house heavier when I was young. Now in my age it's a blessing. Spirituality is so important in my daily life. We have to embrace our 12th house😊
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing and so happy you see the positive side of 12th house I think and hear others share similar experiences that when they get older the relationship with their father improves and is stronger 💙🌹
@LaurenCortez5194 жыл бұрын
I have a taurus sun in the 12th house! my dad's an alcoholic and has been for my whole life. I can be really shy and that detached/out of body feeling I can relate to along with a lot of other things mentioned in this video! Thank you for this video :)
@teresagould69874 ай бұрын
Wow 🤩 honey. This is absolutely me and my life journey so far. I’m 50 now and going through my spiritual journey and I’m learning so much. I also have my sun in Pisces ♓ and now I understand myself and that I’m not alone. Thank you flower 🌸 xxxxx ❤🧚♀❤
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your journey and your sweet words 🌹❤️🙏🏻
@addycool4448 жыл бұрын
very well said, my father was alcoholic, when I was kid, he use to read Gita after getting drunked, he quit it later on, but yes there was always lack of connection between us, I am 22 now, things are better, but there's long way to go, thanks for video it tells lot about us pretty accurately , thanks mam
@jennifer.m69773 жыл бұрын
I started to cry of relief and amazement when you said leaving your body asking yourself is the really happening? I have always done this In my 20s I thought maybe I was going to die or lose my mind.. or that I had been drugged! But I always can here my voice Inside my head saying no this is real and your ok and this is a table and you are sitting eating with a person or whatever the case may be. I have my sun in scorpio at 8 degrees in my 12th house I also have mercury there too!!! My father was gone before I was ever born.. I got to know him a few years ago but nothing permanent he is a drug addict. Thank you thank you thank you!!!! For such a wonderful video!!
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing I wrote a 12th house book waiting for it to be published I’ll have it on website when it’s ready to purchase www.8and12houses.com
@sac299110 ай бұрын
This fits me really well, including the addiction. I’ve kicked alcohol and prescription drugs to the curb. I use cannabis to help me absorb some of the shocks from the outer world. I have no problem with it. I will continue to use cannabis until my last days.
@CarmenTurnerSchott10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing I have a friend who has done the same she has medical cannabis and grows different plants it helps with her anxiety tremendously
@catherinemoore95342 жыл бұрын
My childhood friend has her Sun in the 12th house in Gemini and her south node in Leo. She spent her adult life being 'materialist', ambitious and basically living her south node. She only started to become less self centered and compassionate in her 50s, after her divorce. Her father was absent from her life.
@the_lightnessofbeing10 ай бұрын
Thank you, so on spot for me. Sun in Libra 12th house AND Mars in Gemini 8th house.
@swissrootful4 жыл бұрын
fits completely, thank you, from ascendant in 12 th house, explains my entire life, so much suffering, breaking out of numbness to be faced with unconditional love, ultimately longing for that Oneness with God, becomes only goal, after a life of many attempted suicides, where each miraculous survival brought me closer to my spirituality. Thank you!!! Realizing all of that, yes, it lightens that part of suffering which still came from a feeling of guilt to just not fit in, to be so different, controversial, etc.
@Racquel8228 жыл бұрын
Love this interpretation. So true about the extra sensitivity and the missing father.
@CarmenTurnerSchott8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Please join my Facebook groups :) I have websites for two of them www.8thouse.com www.anythingastrology.com And my other website has all groups names listed www.8and12houses.com
@TMTgirl4 жыл бұрын
I have a 12th house Sun and my Dad, and Mom, have been ever-present for my entire life. They are still married. If anything, for me it is an ability for non-verbal love between me and my Dad. That kind of bond is definitely there. More than with my Mom, though I am close to both of them. However, my Dad's Dad was a Pisces Sun and an alcoholic. So there is also that. My Mom's side doesn't have any of that. I am also an alcoholic, atypical, social only.
@serenity_in_reverie3 жыл бұрын
Sun Scorpio 12th house here! yes ive been feeling so detached from everything around me. even i don't have any special emotional connection with my family. i feel like im from outer space and just a visitor here. about father figure, yes he's a dedicated father but not emotionally. your description about the floating sensation is something i can relate. my Galactic Signature is red SKYWALKER! 😂 so it makes sense now.
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@stephaniemarley74415 жыл бұрын
This is on point! I’m a 12th house Sun and you’ve described me in many ways. Also have Mars, Mercury, Moon, Chiron, and North Node in the 12th so there’s a lot going on here for me. My parents divorced when I was 7 and I’ve never had a close relationship with my father even when they were together. He was depressed and angry from having his first wife and mother of his first two children die tragically years before I was born. Really interesting that you mention feeling dissociated from reality and in large crowds it’s like you’re in a dream. I have felt this way for almost 10 years and have not been able to resolve it. I’ve thought it to be some sort of brain fog but now I’m wondering if I’m just not grounded and my energy is too open. I’ve also always had problems with drugs and alcohol since I was 13. And you’re right, it was always an anxious feeling as a teen like I had too much energy and that helped to suppress it. Great info, thank you!! ❤️
@blissbabyy3 жыл бұрын
It was the “my mom told me the guy at the house was my dad and turned out not to be” for me😂
@jesskennedy52323 жыл бұрын
Omg same. I got the “your dad isn’t your real dad” talk in 2nd grade. Never really there though.
@clairew48295 жыл бұрын
I find it so bizarre that all Suns in 12th house had father issues. All of them. I had a distant father as well. EDIT HA! I just got to having Aries in moon like myself and HOO have I blown up !
@CarmenTurnerSchott5 жыл бұрын
Claire W I am 12th House Sun and have a Aries Moon in 8th I repress my Aries a lot except with those I love and am closest to I had to get comfortable with the powerful energy that I released through sports when I was younger but now that I am older it’s harder and causes me health flare ups if I don’t express it I write and listen to music which help me 🌹
@clairew48295 жыл бұрын
Carmen Turner-Schott my sun is 12th house in Taurus and my moon is in the 11th house and in Aries
@alonsogutierrez75044 жыл бұрын
True my father is not my Real father and I was raised by my grandmother
@bucnasty37613 жыл бұрын
@@clairew4829 that’s mine exactly too
@mayzitta6 жыл бұрын
i have a Capricorn sun in 12th, and I'm very much of my dad's girl! He's the most amazing person I know, very stable, generous and warm at heart.. and he basically is an ideal father/husband that most people want for themselves. But i do have altruistic tendency and being very sensitive to positive and negative vibes ppl give me on a daily basis..
@alkachaudhary58902 жыл бұрын
That's amazing! So happy for you.
@mikumikugrl543219 жыл бұрын
I can relate to so much of what you had to say. It explained so much of what my childhood and early yrs were about. My father left the family when I was very young and was an alcoholic as well. My step father who raised me was a workaholic. If he wasn't at work he was sleeping. When you talked about being disconnected from your body and feeling as though you were in a dream when you were in a crowd was so on point but no one could relate to it. I am an introverted extrovert. I need my time alone. Thank you!
@CarmenTurnerSchott9 жыл бұрын
Mary Morris- Thank you for your kind words. Please join me in my Facebook groups about the 12th and 8th houses. Also visit my website for more articles and videos: www.8and12houses.com/home Blessings, Carmen Turner Schott
@MsAspen Жыл бұрын
I am a 12th house sun with Saturn conjunct. You did an outstanding job explaining this house!
@CarmenTurnerSchott Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ❤️
@ElaineO6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining this ‘dilemma’ for me. It answered so many questions I’ve had my entire life! I’m a LEO Sun in 12th House w/Venus in Cancer also in 12th. I never identified as a true LEO but having been born close to the cusp of Cancer, I assumed I was more like them, the home-body, family etc etc... I’ve been single now for 15 yrs after 3 failed marriages. Cannot imagine sharing my life with anyone at this point. That makes for a lonely future ahead since I have no friendships outside my immediate family. Such is the prison that I built for myself. Everything that you spke of was so spot-on with me. Opened my eyes to a thing or two that requires some deep thought and reflection. Thanks so much!
@make79194 жыл бұрын
Wow this was touching, especially the last couple of minutes for me. I have my sun and Venus in the 12th house, but in Aries. That loneliness feeling is very true, no matter if I have a girlfriend or always have my friends and family around, I always feel alone with my thoughts
@behind.theSun Жыл бұрын
I have my Libra sun in the 12th house (Libra rising as well). Despite my father always being there for me, as I was growing up, I did feel a strong emotional disconnection from him, I have memories of feeling completely cut off from him at times, but in retrospect, it was all illusory. My father doesn’t suffer from addiction (he beat that before i was born, thank goodness) but he does suffer from severe anxiety and ocd. I remember as a child hearing him wake up at night screaming from night terrors, which certainly had an effect on me. Our relationship suffered until I became an adult, and it has grown into a very strong bond. Thank you for acknowledging that the father doesn’t have to absent for this to be true, because it is, everything you said. “The curse is that you always feel alone” Fun fact… I have a twin
@velvet1234 жыл бұрын
Wow yes, I had a dysfunctional father - he was a Leo. He had mental issues n addictions specially in alcohol. I didn’t connect with him at all. I didn’t like his energy either and wish he wasn’t my father growing up. Yes, he was always tired, slept a lot, hated working, etc. He passed around Scorpio season last year. It was a relief in a away cause he brought so much unneeded drama too. Was very toxic. He also had narcissistic tendencies so I couldn’t be around him. Which people would not understand. Saying why I couldn’t forgive him, his energy was just toxic for me to be around. I’m now learning to set boundaries around my 30s. Because people take advantage of your goodness.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
velvet 123 thank you for sharing and I am sorry you went through this Your strong and are not alone Please join my 12th house astrology group on FB My website is www.8and12houses.com for more information on 12th house 🌹💙
@thequeenbee828 жыл бұрын
Wow, loving this video. Your explanation is spot on in many ways. My Sun in 12th, my biological dad was not present in my life and he was addicted to drugs. He's recovered from the drug addiction, we have a cordial relationship now, even though I have forgiven him, there is so much space between us, I'm a bit cold towards him still. Also recently found out his father is not his actual dad. Crazy.
@CarmenTurnerSchott8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Please join me in my FB groups I have two websites for two of my groups www.8thouse.com www.8and12houses.com and the other groups are found on www.8and12houses.com. I have a 12th house astrology group with about 3,000 members :) Join us
@thequeenbee828 жыл бұрын
+Carmen Turner-Schott thx, i just did 😊
@thegardenfairy4 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have ever heard for sun in the 12th house. Thank you!
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
My Spiritually Minded Life Thank you so much - happy you found it helpful 🌹 www.8and12houses.com
@nasjalil50632 жыл бұрын
I have a Sun in Pisces within the 12th house. A Pisces Rising I am as well. And Chiron in the 8th house within the Sign of Scorpio. This video made me make links to all of the suffering and life purpose within myself. Thank you for your guidance ❤
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing- you would like my new 12th house book It’s available for pre order but won’t ship until Aug Here is my website www.8and12houses.com I have a 8th house book too :) Enjoy the holidays Carmen
@yaisaadcock92694 жыл бұрын
Perfect video. I have my sun in the 12th house and my moon in pisces. I feel really understood and I've never heard anyone explain it like this. Thank you so much 💙.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Yaisa Dodd I am happy you found it helpful 🌹
@krystinekimes3 жыл бұрын
This is such a helpful video and I feel comforted by you. Thank you
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
www.8and12houses.com
@krystinekimes3 жыл бұрын
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thank you Carmen. Do you have information on the 12th-6th house axis/polarity ? I am exploring my Saturn in those houses in relation to growing and evolving through that polarity.
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
@@krystinekimes the Pisces Virgo Nodes video I have might help I plan on doing more videos someday www.8and12houses.com
@janhava Жыл бұрын
I have sun, mercury, venus, mars jupiter, and pluto in 12th in Leo. Uranus in cancer in 11th at 28 56. Moon in pisces. I am happy to have come upon your channel for some insight. Venus and sun videos very on point. I will watch all 12th. Thank you for your great work.
@CarmenTurnerSchott Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing! You need to read my 12th house book and Phoenixes and Angels book :) I also have a 12th house FB group would love you to join www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
@cecilianavarro35704 жыл бұрын
Carmen, your videos are helping me a lot... I'm 32 now and been taking care of myself to stay away from thing that makes me numb for years ... Now I'm learning to deal with my feelings
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Cecilia Navarro Thank you for sharing - I am happy you find them helpful 🌹💙
@cecilianavarro35704 жыл бұрын
Also, beyond your knowledge you look kind and soft. Sending you a hug, soul to soul. Thanks.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Cecilia Navarro 🌹💙Thank you
@yukiphantomhive3707 Жыл бұрын
OMG!! How on spot it describes me, that’s crazy… I finally feel like someone understands me
@CarmenTurnerSchott Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I have Sun in 12th it’s a special energy I think you would like my new book ❤️🌹 www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2TJZZU0ADJ50K&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1668018070&sprefix=12th+house%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-1
@lajeteefan7 жыл бұрын
My Aqua Sun is in the 12th house. My father is still alive, 74, still married to my mom (they've been married almost 50 years), and he's very much a part of my life. Looks like I'm in the minority of what this astrologer's findings are.
@elijimenez77103 жыл бұрын
🤦🏽♀️ it’s a trait, perhaps you don’t relate to the other possible traits & signs @lejeteefan
@mikalucyamv65233 жыл бұрын
Then probably your sun has good aspects towards your moon. You probably have a good 4th house & 10th house, and your sun has many good aspects.
@AngelHonolulu3 жыл бұрын
Your thoroughness and accuracy are so satisfying. Thank you for sharing your work. 💖
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you www.8and12houses.com
@braddis10136 жыл бұрын
I have Sun and Neptune in Scorpio in the 12th and Mercury in Scorpio almost in the 12th, 11th's edge. I was glad I found your assessment on you tube. Thank you.
@SpiritWeaver1122 Жыл бұрын
Wow. You just described my life. My dad was always in my life but I felt like he wasn't there. Like I needed him there emotionally..He would withdraw to his room a lot with the door closes and stag there. He also drank a lot. I remember always questioning my mom about God and time and the universe. I knew we were all connected in some way. And growing up, I did feel alone. And I did fall into depression at times. I drank because I liked to just feel happy and not care. I don't anymore because I'm on a spiritual path but I longed for a spiritual path too. I always felt good and right when I would pray or mediated and talked to spirit. This was so spot on! Thank you. I have my sun, mercury and uranus in 12. Sun in sagittarius. My 12th house is scorpio. There's like a sliver of sag in my 12th. Lol.
@CarmenTurnerSchott Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Many Sun in 12th housers feel same way. You might like my book :). www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
@azezrtyuuiopqsdfghjk2 жыл бұрын
I haven't known my Father and Mother. My 12th house Sun & Moon In Pisces. Now I have it with then, no more broken people with issues stealing all my light. I want met only healty people.
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Please check out my website and I have a new book all about 12th house people it’s available for pre order now on Amazon or I have a few author copies left if you would like to purchase one You can message me through website www.8and12houses.com And a Astrology Book about healing and each sun sign is pre order available now on Amazon www.amazon.com/Sun-Signs-Houses-Healing-Resilience/dp/0738771309/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=GZNGMNU1YOPG&keywords=sun+signs+houses+and+healing&qid=1637892967&qsid=140-3204915-0499833&sprefix=sun+signs+ho%2Caps%2C230&sr=8-3&sres=0738771309%2C1646111664%2C1611805112%2C0062840630%2C164611745X%2CB07SKKWHQR%2C1788172485%2C1692044486%2C1465464131%2C1589796535%2C1647397294%2C1646115643%2C1735326402%2C0473416883&srpt=ABIS_BOOK
@jassenjj5 жыл бұрын
In a phase of life where I can only find meaningful people/minds from the 12th... Congrats, this was a great insight on this position.
@annavallajonsdottir56574 жыл бұрын
I have my sun in conjunction with saturn in leo, 12th house, and my moon in aries 8th house together with my south node. Watching your videos on those placements has really shaken me, because your words are spot on. Thank you
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Anna, Thank you for sharing. I greatly appreciate it and my Moon is in Aries in 8th house too conjunct Jupiter and Chiron all in Aries
@April182656 жыл бұрын
Yes, me to a "T" as well. I have my sun and venus here as well. I've never been close with my dad, strained relationship since I can remember. He was abusive when I was a kid / teenager and at one point moved out to give us all some space. He has been a workaholic since I can remember. Addicted to work I suppose! That is where he feels his worth / power. He has been absent ever since I can remember. It's only now (I'm 31) that I can actually have a normal conversation with him. He's gotten better over the years. Also, yes about self-sacrificing. I have to limit this and tighten the reigns from time to time so as not to totally forget myself. I do social work with individuals with special needs for a living. It's how I feel my worth. I do feel others view me as someone to "use" at times and have to keep tabs on that a bit so as not to let others take advantage. Thank goodness for my Aries sun and mars in capricorn in the 8th. Also yes to the artistic tendencies. That was really the only thing most other kids knew about me in school because I was so quiet. And YES YES YES about liking my alone time. It's not a like, it's a NEED. :) Thank you for this video, feels good knowing I'm not alone and there are definitely good points to having this placement.
@therealbbypluto2 жыл бұрын
i am sobbing at this video. thank you so much, it's been so hard searching for answers but you just read me like a book. thank u for sharing ur experience
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing and I am happy you found the videos I have Sun in 12 too and understand I just wrote a new book for us Twelfth house people you might like it You can email me if you would like a signed copy now or you can pre order on Amazon www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?crid=2OW1O5EYDSVJT&keywords=12th+house+astrology&qid=1636378341&qsid=140-3204915-0499833&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-6&sres=089254161X%2C0877287279%2C1732309604%2C1780993439%2CB00DCWJTNM%2CB01A21K0WY%2C0916360547%2CB0868VJ2CR%2C1909171425%2CB08GJS33SH%2CB08T6P2KB4%2C1844095819%2CB008VK03Q2%2C1578591449&srpt=ABIS_BOOK I also have a website with more articles and a FB 12 house group you can join www.8and12houses.com
@wsimms89 жыл бұрын
This is so accurate about the father description!!! How do you make this placement work without looking like a sap or walk over though?
@roser20584 ай бұрын
I feel so seen. This was a gift, thank you
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing ❤️🌹 www.amazon.com/Mysteries-Twelfth-Astrological-House-Fallen/dp/1780993439/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=3GOP1OZVQB467&keywords=12th+house+astrology+book&qid=1642303547&sprefix=12th+house+astrology%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-5
@stefanveljovic32704 жыл бұрын
The thing about father Is truth.. My father drinks a lot usually in living room And im in the room next to his studying, playing games, having my privacy, It's like we Are emotionally detached as you Said. When You said that some Sun in 12th house feel detached From their body thats true.. that Is called Depersionalization disorder, I Had my moments when I just felt detached From the world, couldn't focus on anything, felt like my body spirit Is gone.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Kaneki Ken Thank for sharing with me. What helped me was grounding exercises - Tree Meditation to ground in my body and earth meditation Helped me 💙🌹
@stefanveljovic32704 жыл бұрын
@@CarmenTurnerSchott Thanks a lot for your advice.
@anchaldeshwal46833 жыл бұрын
Soul sister i am cancer ascendant and sun ketu in 12th house....i am turning 28th years old on 2nd july but i have an ideal father.....no drug addiction, yes was in military but totally dedicated and supportive financially mentally. I dont know but i am totally blessed in the matter of parents by birth till now.
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing ❤️www.8and12houses.com
@SmoothCode2 ай бұрын
Being a provider is not the same as being a parent. Was he emotionally there for you?
@createyourlighthouse32884 жыл бұрын
How interesting I had an absent father growing up he was there but not emotionally very busy addiction to outdoor work and freedom and just not there as I have got older I’ve forgiveness for all of this I have a better connection now he is 83 bless his heart!
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Lesley Kennedy Thank you for sharing - yes I see this often when the father is older the relationship gets better 💙🌹
@PurpleIsDaSwag1019 жыл бұрын
Woah.. You're so accurate 😯 I have my Sun in Taurus in the 12th house, Moon in Gemini 12th house & Mercury in Taurus 12th house. Everything u said from having an absent father to needing alone time after socialising well, to wanting to work in a place where everyone looks & acts the same to being sensitive to other people's energies and emotions.... Describes me to a T! Lol I love it it's crazy 😂
@CarmenTurnerSchott9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I am happy you enjoyed it. Please join me in my Facebook groups and visit my website for my articles and videos on 12th My group links are on site 8and12houses.com/home
@dockcom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your life experience of having Sun in the 12th house
@S0l11225 жыл бұрын
My sun ☀️ is in the 12th house and my dad was an alcoholic. Very abusive. Parents broke up when I was 9. Your on point
@jas44873 ай бұрын
i'm a cancer sun in the 12th with a Leo ascendant in the 1st and 2nd house (Yes, i have an interception in my chart). I also have Mars in cancer in the 12th house and Chiron in gemini in the 11th house 😢 i'm 39 and my dad has also been absent from my life due to alcoholism. Sadly I had to establish strong boundaries with him because I'm also a mom of a 7 year old autistic boy and my job is to protect him and his energy as much as I can. in this lifetime i'm doing all that I can to be of service to others and pay back as much Karma as possible. I love my dad and I pray good things over him but sadly the no contact is what's best for us all right now. 😢
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing and I understand Your strong person and a 12th house Angel Developing boundaries is an amazing lesson it took me a long time 🌹❤️
@randomstuff32296 жыл бұрын
A lot of Sun in 12th house people whom I've encountered can be go though a period of being quite egotistical and self centred due to some of their personal planets progressing \ solar arcing into the 1st house at some point in their life.... both a curse and a blessing
@peterklein43496 жыл бұрын
love your video's ! ( sun/merc in 12, with also a lot of scorpio and pluto) I made horoscopes for free too. And my father was also absent: addicted to religion, catholic church. Knew everything from the rituals, churches, and the symbolism/statues therein. I can agree with all ! the rest you mention about sun in 12. With vesta and karma (+/-) conjunct my sun, that's hard. And the greek 'gnooti s'auton', know yourself, is indeed the purpose of my life...
@teresagould69874 ай бұрын
My moon is in Aquarius ♒ and I get it about drinking to numb myself for many years from my teens up until 2017. I had to give it up and then I became a comfort eater. I love ❤ myself now and accept myself for being so loving 🥰 And I wonder why I’ve had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue since my early 20’s. I’m fortunate to have a very loving hubby who is a cancer sign. I’m learning so much. Thank you again and again. Oh, my dad was and still is very abusive, psychologically and physically. I cord those cords many years ago. I feel happy and content with my choices. Xxxxxxx ❤🧚♀❤
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 ай бұрын
@teresagould6987 Thank you for sharing and I understand - good is my comfort or addiction and again trying to lose weight lol story of my life I am happy you are doing self care and we have to be our own soul mate ❤️🙏🏻🌹
@ScorpioFeniks-dh9pt2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this excellent video 🙏🏻 12th house sun here 💥🤍💪
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 ай бұрын
@@ScorpioFeniks-dh9pt Thank you so much ❤️ You might like my 12th house book :) amzn.to/43TXvUc
@sunniehoneycutt11493 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! Sun, Mercury and Pluto in 12th house
@ariesjeh4 жыл бұрын
You have captured this perfectly ! Thank you for sharing I feel so seen for once haha !
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🌹
@ariesjeh4 жыл бұрын
Do you still give readings ? I just love your style and vibe. My name is Jess and my email is cae.hill@gmail.com if you want to get in touch. Hope you are well!
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jess, I am doing consultations again, and only for those who reach out on groups or here. I have about 15 people who have been waiting :) Are you free in April? i am taking some time off my normal job and going to schedule consults that whole week. April 8-13. I can do telephone or skype. I will email you offline to discuss
@emptythoughtnot21127 жыл бұрын
I feel that over and over again when im around a crowd that im not really physically there lately in my mid 20s i started to say no u r here now and then and became less what does it mean really i never thought about it
@milou22rh9 ай бұрын
Sun and Mercury in Capricorn in 12th. You described me 100%, especially the struggles with my father……
@CarmenTurnerSchott9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing ❤️🌹
@stephanierend12619 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. This was very accurate about my father. I have leo sun in the 12th. Even before I knew anything about this placement I decided to stop drinking for 2 reasons: first, because of my father's drinking problems and second cause drinking leads me too deep into the worst part of me. It's interesting that you feel like it makes you calm and therefore can become an addiction. To me it really just makes me feel so very sad and depressed. So I decided to stay away from it since I'm focusing on being the best version of me. I feel that meditation is the best way to be in contact with the deepest part of me without having all the negatives of substance use. ;)
@CarmenTurnerSchott9 жыл бұрын
Stephanie Rend Thank you so much for sharing Stephanie. I would love for you to join my Facebook groups. I have a 12th house group, 8th house group. and Astrology & The Houses 101 group and a dream interpretation group. Visit my website at www.8and12houses.com/home and you can see all my FB group links on right hand side. :) Hope to see you in groups.
@yoliknal7445 Жыл бұрын
Very true about leo energy, super strong leo in 12 th house is different than other zodiacs, still strong leo personality traits but in the area of 12 house: in my case I am a painter and sometimes I have to speak in front of big public but most of the time I am alone in the studio creating things.
@CarmenTurnerSchott Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing 🌹❤️ I always wish I had painting or art ability I like to write ✍️ but lack that talent My uncle and cousin are artistic and my daughter is very artistic she has NN in 12 in Taurus and Taurus rising Virgo Sun in 5th house
@77shawnie5 жыл бұрын
I have a stellium with the sun here. It's been an interesting ride. Dad was gone most the time both parents addicts. Very spiritual 🙏and love to art🎨 and music🎶🎙 psychically blessed🔮
@A17-d4n4 жыл бұрын
I have this in d9 navamsa chart(derived from sidereal natal chart) and most of what you're saying has come to the surface as I've gotten older (I'm currently 22). I've been looking into whether the d9 chart could be taken as what we unfold into or we 'encounter on our path'(in as much as it represents the strength of the natal chart planets) using the esoteric astrology basis of sagittarius, as ruler of the 9th house, hence the use of natal chart interpretations like this one. I'm planning on doing the same for the other divisional charts but I'm on d9 and d10 now. Thank you for this... It's one of the most comprehensive one I've seen so far.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing - I have a 12th house group on Facebook please message me to join My website is www.8and12houses.com
@hiddenflower8627 жыл бұрын
My father was always around but when I was 18 my mom finally came clean and told me he was not my biological father. As a kid I didn't feel a connection to my father. And I always felt like he wasn't emotionally there for me. My sun is in the 12th house along with Mercury.
@iiaraK63 жыл бұрын
esto es muy revelador para mi, muchas gracias, me ayudo y me senti muy conectada contigo, saludos.
@divinelygenuine79146 жыл бұрын
Wow! Love your insight...on point for this Sun in 12th chick (:
@VriendaGanguly4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 12th house person with Capricorn stellium here
@trampusbowmaster64202 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 100% accurate right down to the workaholic father .. absence … thank the Gods for you ! 🙏🕉♒️🌞♈️🌙♓️⬆️
@CarmenTurnerSchott2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️🌹🙏🏻
@baggal223 жыл бұрын
My dad left when I was 3, he died when I was 14. He died from an overdose. And I write poetry. And you are right about the alone part 😭😭😭😭
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry Thank you for sharing your story 🌹💙 www.8and12houses.com
@safiyaphoto6 жыл бұрын
Yes my dad was and still is an alcoholic, and was very strict,and there with me but not there for me .12 th house sun here
@angelapalencia16643 жыл бұрын
Aries Sun, Mercury, Mars, and Saturn and Taurus moon in the 12th house and I feel read like a book. 😳 Thank you!
@goddessny60684 жыл бұрын
Lmao my father was in the military and it was like a revolving door with him. He was monetarily there, but he always wasn’t around as much as he should. My father doesn’t have an alcohol addiction but he’s married 4 women in his life & I think he is codependent. He’s now in my life more than he’s ever been, buuuut I still feel there’s not a father bond. He just feels like a person I know. It’s hard to look at him like my dad.
@CarmenTurnerSchott4 жыл бұрын
Goddess Ny Thank you for sharing 💙
@seasonsgreetings71913 жыл бұрын
ive yet to find a vid i resonate deeply with about my sun in 12th house… and here it is. thank you for your words, i think it helps one someone who has the placement talks about it. almost fits me to a T lol.
@CarmenTurnerSchott3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! I am happy you enjoyed this. I have several articles and a book about the 12th house coming out soon. www.8and12houses.com
@SQUELCH-zj7il7 жыл бұрын
I do agree with the depersonalisation part, feel like a shell with words trapped inside itching to burst out *kaboom* ... I guess it's the mix with the Aquarius moon it's quite dominant
@Bestbeachesincalifornia4 жыл бұрын
saaaaame!
@comedywithnat6 жыл бұрын
Sun, Mars and Mercury in 12th. Father was absent but we reconnected in my twenties. No alcohol addiction on his side but he does gamble. Personally I overeat! I have heard people eat as a protective shield...
@Loveusa82198 жыл бұрын
Great explanation,I have leo in this house.
@CarmenTurnerSchott8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Join me in my 12th house group and other groups on Facebook Visit www.8and12houses.com for links
@ligitaurbonaite5177 жыл бұрын
so so so many things I can relate to. I have a gemini sun in a 12 house. about the father figure - shoking, its all true. would love to read your article which you mentioned about this placement. thanks.
@CarmenTurnerSchott7 жыл бұрын
li. Here is the link to my article www.allthingshealing.com/Astrology/Sun-in-the-12th-House-Suffering-the-Father/6210#.WDualbU8KEc
@CarmenTurnerSchott7 жыл бұрын
li. Join me in my Facebook groups- Anything Astrology 12th Astrological House 8th House Deep Soul Divers