Sun Yat-Sen's Three Principles of the People

[@EmperorTigerstar]

This one has always had a lot of support in the polls but never quite won, so I decided to make it this week. Enjoy!

[@dddz961]

Your pronunciation is really wrong. Put foreign words into Google Translate (or Youku/Tudou) and listen to the audio before you do your next video.

[@russkiebaloney1574]

d I assume you must be the middle class educated and brainwashed by the communist party into Saying that the communist won against the Japanese in ww2? I'm just curious seeing how lucky the PRC was given the UN seat although they did not EARN it from contributing to the allies in ww2 despite the fact the rest of the world knew that the nationalist army not the communist army bore the brunt of the Japanese army in ww2

[@maxbergmann5767]

You put minquan twice at 5:12

[@RealHipHoManiac]

thank you for talking about this, too few people (especially westerners) know about the deeds of this man, as a Taiwanese patriot, I'm really glad to see this video.

[@PrimusProductions]

3:26 Quan Is pronounced like Chu-in If you know how to pronounce Qing Dynasty correctly, realize Q makes a ch sound in other words too Min Sheng is pronounced like Min Shung

[@woodahooda5973]

Interesting how both the Nationalists and Communists see their origins in Sun Yat-sen. The Communist Party even calls him the "Forerunner of the Democratic Revolution", if I remember rightly.

[@arminbeintze2029]

Woodahooda "communist party" more like capitalists hahahahahaha

[@crqf2010ruler]

Armin Beintze State Owned Mega Corps and a non-free market economy aren't seen as capitalism by capitalists. I'm a fascist by the way and I think China isn't communist but isn't capitalist either, it's just a horrible and more fucked up version of Brazil, without all the mongrels.

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

crqf2010ruler You aren't a fascist. If you are, you wouldnt be using the internet, being ruled over by your authortarian regime with no access to KZbin and no free speech.

[@arminbeintze2029]

crqf2010ruler but china is imperialist

[@arminbeintze2029]

Coffee Succubus he can still use youtube

[@endy776]

*What would happen if Yuan Shikai didn't ruin everything?* tell cody to get on to that pls

[@Koala1203]

Yuan Shikai? More like Yuan Shitkai.

[@codyshi4743]

Agree.

[@brushwaterkhan]

endy776 I recommend reading this timeline called “superpower china in 1912” where Yuan Shikai died before ever coming to power.

[@ryohandoko1450]

There won't be CCP. Even if there are, CCP won't have armed forces.

[@nathanschmitz2302]

@@Koala1203 Exact thing I think, said the same in a speech class of him.

[@aidan8698]

Yuan Shikai yeeted those principles out the window. I loved how tigerstar said "who knows what would have happened if Yuan Shikai DIDN'T RUIN EVERYTHING"

[@dasbubba841]

Democracy is for losers -Yuan Shikai

[@nathanschmitz2302]

@@dasbubba841 Now old Chinese Emporers, are better than western posers!

[@SirBlackReeds]

Oof.

[@hollyjaw3303]

In the long run, that idiot caused China to be a communist dystopia

[@CoiboiXD]

​@@nathanschmitz2302The last Chinese Emperor literally became a puppet for the warlords then Japan

[@nthperson]

For nearly all of its history, the people of China were dominated by a landed aristocracy. Sun Yat-sen understood that the elimination of land monopoly was fundamental to the formation of a nation serving the interests of all its people. The approach he embraced he took from the study of the American political economist Henry George. This was to collect the full potential rental value of land from those who controlled land, whether agricultural, urban or holding natural resources.

[@Evzone1821]

What if Pu-Yi was never overthrown? What if Pu-Yi went to Oxford in the UK like he planned? What if Pu-Yi pulled a Hearts of Iron IV and tried to break Manchukuo from Japan? What if Pu-Yi escaped to Tokyo?

[@AlexYorim]

Dahkittydoonsta You gotta ask Cody for those questions.

[@Evzone1821]

Alex Yorim you’re right

[@Evzone1821]

MeridianCross40 1. Republicans 2. China 3. Japan 4. KMT & CPC

[@darthguilder1923]

NanjingReich: What if Pu-Yi won WWI?

[@Makie.2001]

He already abdicated

[@mchmchminecraft1637]

I’m a Chinese and this is mostly accurate.

[@codyshi4743]

I don’t know if any of you guys have been noticing this. Sun Yat Sen’s three principles of the people (Nationalism, Democracy, and People’s livelihood) is almost like the three principles of the French Revolution or French Tricolor (Liberty, Equality, and Brotherhood). Liberty=Democracy, Equality=People’s livelihoods, and Brotherhood=Nationalism.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Except for sending people who disagree with them to guillotine huh. I guess that breaks their little claim of being fair and egalitarian

[@IgnacioCheuque]

The truth is that Sir Sun-Yat Sen received a lot of influence from Western philosophers and ideologies, as is the case with the Enlightenment and what you mention.

[@IgnacioCheuque]

​@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess That was a tyranny, not a democracy with equality of orders, the constitution and liberal principles were completely ignored.

[@Thomas-gx3md]

Sun Yat-Sen truly is one of my favorite historical figures. He had a great vision, and it's a shame it has never been implemented in the mainland. Taiwan, on the other hand? Rock on.

[@cockatyusha2359]

KasuTommy im pretty certain that sun would have agreed with ccp's socialist outlook more than jiang's right wing goumindang whom had purged all its internal leftwing. Even sun's wife sided with the ccp.

[@Thomas-gx3md]

Yeah, and his child, Sun Fo, was a lifelong KMT member who fled the PRC and eventually died on Taiwan. I don't think Sun Yat-Sen would have approved of Chiang's purges but I also don't think he would have agreed anymore so with Zedong's authoritarianism and radical left-wing ideology. Both Chiang and Mao betrayed Sun's legacy in different ways, but the fact still remains that modern-day Taiwan follows Sun's ideology much more so than mainland China. For the reasons Tigerstar stated.

[@HisMajestyGuigui]

Sun was a great friend of Lenin and would have approved Maoism.

[@PrimusProductions]

Taiwan has become Hoklo supremacist.

[@Thomas-gx3md]

I'm sure he would have approved of the ideology that got rid of his vision of a democratic China and replaced it with an authoritarian regime. Yes, he was friends with Lenin. No, he did not then revise his Principles of the People into a Leninist ideology.

[@codyshi4743]

So the type of nationalism that Sun Yat Sen was talking about, is Civic Nationalism/Liberal Nationalism.

[@codyshi4743]

Sun Yat Sen would’ve been great at ruling China with his three principles of people.

[@capt__v]

Really interesting. The three tenets could be (grossly) simplified to 'of the people, by the people, and for the people', but maybe I'm just looking at it with American tinted glasses

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

More like federalism, separation of powers, and... well, Georgism, so yeah, pretty American ideas.

[@shockwave2291]

You aren't wrong. Sun Yat-sen was greatly influenced by Abraham Lincoln, who was the one who came up with that phrase.

[@evannationarmy7769]

Yatsen needs dollar shave club

[@finnishguy4002]

Evan Bird Is he gonna shave his mustache?

[@evannationarmy7769]

Finnish Guy I guess

[@finnishguy4002]

Evan Bird Noooo not the mustache!

[@finnishguy4002]

MIDKNIGHT FENRIR I agree with you.You seem to have a philosophically talented mind aswell.

[@minelayer26]

after seeing suns three principles he sounds like a great guy who was really ahead of his time, its unfortunate that the kmt couldnt get past its differences and the ccp split off, if he had lived a bit longer china may have been a much better place today

[@samuelwithers2221]

Interesting stuff that I had never heard of before. Thank you for educating is TigerStar, much appreciate

[@strategossable1366]

Interestingly he is one of the few chinese figures from history that is widely respected on both sides of the Taiwan straight

[@carthagodelendaest1390]

ABSOLUTE CHINESE UNIT

[@thomas_kwantodaki]

I'm a Hong Konger and we all know Mandarin. Hearing you pronounced these Chinese just make me laugh so hard XD.

[@adrianatgaming8640]

i know right.

[@lupsastta90]

He was not talking in Mandarin. I’m not sure which kind of Chinese languages but definitely from the south.

[@Desireoffreedom]

You all don't know mandarin maybe now they force feed you that in schools but i can assure you I've met plenty of hong kongers who know no or just a few words of mandarin.

[@zhiruiliu2433]

你们香港记者有一点好，全世界跑的最快的就是恁们lol

[@alantan9863]

无系瓜？我以为不能在香港讲普通话/华语。

[@JustinY.]

China number one

[@richardbautista9825]

Justin Y. Taiwan number 1

[@stardust6097]

Qing China is true China.

[@zakkart]

*Republic of China

[@stardust6097]

*Qing China

[@lastofrwby8395]

Justin Y. How are you here?

[@ecdadcomputer7467]

I think Three Principles of People looks similar to Kemalism (I know maybe that is a ridicilous comparison.). Sometimes, Kemalism described as "Six Arrows of Kemalism". This arrows are Nationalism, Republicanism, Secularism, State Capitalism, Reformism and Populism.

[@RoyalAnarchist]

The kind of nationalism you described is called “civic nationalism”

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

Yhea, the republican revolution did start as an Han nationalist one against the Manchus. But it shifted to civic nationalism after estabiment of the Republic

[@k.umquat8604]

AKA the good type of nationalism

[@milkbag682]

You need to upload more. This stuff is great

[@codyshi4743]

Emperor Tigerstar I really hope someday you can make a video on the auditing and the examination branch. I am really curious about how they work and their role or duties in Sun Yet Sen's establish government.

[@cdw2468]

“Not right wing nationalism that 4chan users shed tears of joy over”

[@hungarycountryball1056]

Sun yet shen 3 principle *Exist* CCP: we’ll just pretend those don’t exist.

[@usagiza]

aaand the same with chiang kai shek the butcher

[@cockatyusha2359]

Equality and rights for the working class is clearly lacking in goumindang china and most capitalist countries today.

[@russkiebaloney1574]

Lei Hou really? Can you prove it or are you clearly kidding?

[@russkiebaloney1574]

Lei Hou btw I can't take any of you 50 cent army trolls seriously

[@RealHipHoManiac]

Comrade Nico I disagree, the consensus that Chiang was a terrible leader has now turned into one of sympathy, most historians now agree that he was a victim of circumstance, the horrific human rights abuses can be chalked up to their fight with the communists and Japanese (forced conscription, forced loans), China ruined it's currency to fulfil Sun's vision of China by debasing it's currency to fund schools and healthcare. Even the white terror that happened in Taiwan was a result of the red scare, which can also be compared to the US' Japanese internment camps, except there was an ACTUAL threat of overthrowing of the government.

[@easternestal4181]

yes i was waiting for a video like this good job tigerstar!

[@zawarudo3214]

5:18 There's always gonna be that one guy who ruins everything for everyone else.

[@personinapurplebackground7410]

That idiot ruined China, if it wasn't for him the civil war wouldn't had happen and China wouldn't be communist.

[@nathanschmitz2302]

@@personinapurplebackground7410 China has more in common with 1984 Oceania with a capitalist economy.

[@franksmith7246]

@@nathanschmitz2302 capitals government

[@aaronmorton5427]

That feeling when you are one of the few dozen Georgists left and someone actually not only mentions Georgism but gets it right too. Thank you EmperorTigerstar for making my day!

[@fovlsbane]

I dunno, theres just something sour about owing something potentially having to sell it because youre not making enough money of it to support a tax on it. Although I thought it was interesting as far as it was presented in the video.

[@sevdailsulejmani624]

After 3 years I am still waiting for the Henry George video on LVT .....

[@kevinmatthew]

5:13 The minquan appears twice

[@danielziemba8045]

I wasn't going to give you the time of day for your Georgism talk, but given Sun Yat-Sen's endorsement I will watch that video when it comes.

[@HUNDmiau]

Could you do a video on Freiwirtschaft? It is a very interesting economic system proposed by an anarchist and was shortly implemented in Wörgl (A village/town in austria) with great success before the world war.

[@brucculi349]

I know this is like 5 years old, but it's worth noting that even while Sun Yat-sen was promoting a pan-nationalist Chinese identity, he also heavily engaged in anti-Manchu rhetoric and, when creating the national mythos for his new nation's legitimacy, talked about the Manchus as if they were the cause of China's current misfortune.

[@lordpuppydudley]

"The scary right-wing nationalism that 4chan users shed tears of joy over" is the best way anyone has ever described fascism.

[@tubeindustriesnewsnetwork5541]

Except it doesn't explain anything

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Fascism is only scary to the enemies of our race

[@quakeknight9680]

I remember when Fascists gave its citizens guns to defend themselfs from tyranical goverment, and be able to openly say whatever they want about the goverment, truly the moment when Fascism is Right-Wing

[@aidan8698]

It's been long awaited.. I am now satisfied

[@BokorChannel]

Please do a video on Juche and songun

[@Sodom_and_Gomorrah]

Why is your avatar that hedgehog from that North korean cartoon...

[@IngertJohnson]

@@Sodom_and_Gomorrah great show

[@angusyang5917]

This video is so good.

[@heyseed1673]

>Conflating all 4channers with /pol/ And here I thought you did more research than that.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

U mad bro?

[@heyseed1673]

No, simply... disappointed.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

When /pol/ is the loudest and most aggressive, other voices get drowned out. Same reason KZbin comments are so often hard right

[@possiblystappert4315]

He really should check up on the other boards, i've never spent time on /pol/, and /pol/ is hated on many other boards.

[@lob5645]

Have you been on 4chan lately? Every board might as well be /pol/

[@WillemTheUnsilent]

Very objective and very specific! This video clearly explained the Three Principles of People to the English speakers. --Best wishes from Billy, originally from Peking, China

[@KirbyComicsVids]

yes! I’ve been wanting this video for a while

[@chiokill1754]

Great video as always, thank you for a great educational video!!

[@yabbadabbindude]

I'm really digging those 5 branches of government

[@shockwave2291]

Taiwan/ ROC actually implements this in their governmental system today.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

There's the usual executive, legislature, and judicial branch. But he added an oversight and testing branch. Oversight branch for auditing, investigating corruption, and impeachment government officials. The testing branch comes from the old Chinese practice of choosing government officials based on testing, as opposed to connection or lineage. So it was kept a separate branch to be impartial.

[@surperian4340]

Is making part two of the Libertarianism video one of them? Huh? Is it? Give us the video Tigerstar. GIVE US THE VIDEO! WHERE IS IT?! GIVE IT UP OR WE’LL FIND YOU *foams at mouth*

[@aidan8698]

WHICH IS IT OBAMA?

[@claraquinrulez]

I kinda love these three ideas

[@christopherellis2663]

Thank you! I have been hanging out for this one

[@phineas7423]

I seriously thought that the advertisement was a joke for a few minutes

[@interestinghistory4911]

Very interesting!

[@TheJesterInYellow]

If you could change the outcome of any one war in history, making sure the original republicans of China won would probably be up on the list of best possible changes

[@GuildsmanPirate]

PLEASE MAKE A FULL VIDEO ON HENRY GEORGE!!!!!

[@aidan8698]

the music used sounds really cool

[@DirtMerchant693]

Ummm 5:15 pretty sure you accidentally put the same symbol twice instead of them being two separate symbols lol

[@kaiserwilhelm3933]

Amazing name.

[@DOM08042000]

Great video about great man.

[@zhubajie6940]

Sun was the greatest Chinese that ever lived. Too bad his dream didn't become true over all of China. I think America could have used his five branches (Yuan) for say to impeach people (the Control Yuan) instead of the political intractable Congress and to fight appointments of the incompetent like the Norway Ambassador that doesn't know anything about Norway (the Examination Yuan). His mausoleum is quite a walk up Purple Mountain in Nanjing believe me. I had to rest a couple times to get there from the foot of the mountain. P.S. Quan sounds more like Chwahn, Min more like mean, Sheng more like Shung. I know Pinyin is confusing for English speakers (including me).

[@fhialsdhkt43tg72]

Concerning Mínzú: Maybe "Patriotism" would be the appropriate translation? Any Chinese here to tell me if that fits?

[@Jim54_]

This would be a great set of ideas on further unifying the EU

[@quakeknight9680]

No.

[@anandm4748]

There was a fourth principle that was not included but actually crucial: christianity. Dr. Sun and the kuomintang believed that above all christianity was essential for china's development and the consolidation of the ethnic han majority. The folk religion was weak, while Buddhism was especially dangerous as it was the religion of foreign subversives and tyrants like the tibetans, mongols, and manchus. Thus they had be crushed and then brought into Christianity.

[@codyshi4743]

Sun Yat Sen’s Three principles of the people is still being held in high stand in mainland China.

[@ashton7981]

If capitalism involves capital and socialism is based on labor then georgism focuses on George

[@richardtaylor7170]

Georgism is not separate from capitalism. Effectively Georgism is Ricardianism (Read: classical capitalist economics) as viewed by a tax collector.

[@yaumelepire6310]

Small correction here: Socialism isn't based on labour, not really. It's based on collective ownership, though the extent of that "collective" is a matter of serious variation, from the whole nation in communism, to cooperative members in market socialism.

[@yaumelepire6310]

Sabertooth, Care to elaborate?

[@yaumelepire6310]

Sabertooth, Ok, but how is property labour?

[@yaumelepire6310]

Sabertooth, Ok, I get how you're looking at it now, but I disagree. Even if property is collectivised, that doesn't mean money and labour must also be. Like in a cooperative. In such enterprises, the property is collective, the factories, facilities, even the land owned by the cooperative is equally owned by every single one of its members (and directed by some of those members elected by the rest). However, the rent or dividend from this property is very much owned very much privately by the members. I guess you could say the labour is owned equally by the cooperative's members, though I don't really see how one can own labour, that not being really a thing, in the most basic sense of the word. Someone can pay you for your time and work, but that time and work is not your employer's nor yours, its consequences are your boss'.

[@yaumelepire6310]

Sabertooth, Oh! So when you say labour, you're talking workforce! I get it now. About that chair, in a cooperative, usually, all members agree to share the profits equally and invest an equal minimum amount back into the enterprise. So, in a 100 members cooperative, if the profit from a single chair sale is 5$ (that's with all expenses substracted, employees paid, etc.), then every member will receive 0,05$ from the sale of that single chair and reinvest at least a portion of that five cents into the chair-making business.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

@@yaumelepire6310 The collective ownership you're talking about is between the rulers of the communist regime. They are the ones who own everything, after they stole everything (which is what communists do) The population itself doesn't own anything. They don't own even their own lives and identity as a Human. I know this cause my family used to live in the Russian empire and went through the bolshevik nightmare

[@perchte]

Please make a video about Syria and the borders of every day/week since 2011 :D I Love your videos!

[@rubenjacobo3919]

Please make a video about land value tax. I can't find videos showing examples on how it works.

[@k-brick9996]

Taiwan No.1 Sun yat sen was KMT not CPC

[@gyurto]

Could you do an animated map of fallout? I mean from the war to the post apocalyptic happenings, like NCR, Brotherhood of Steel etc...

[@unifieddynasty]

China's so obsessed with education that they literally wanted an "examination" branch of government. :D And that's only partly joking.

[@musAKulture]

china invented exams.

[@yrret1996]

5:17 you put minquan twice

[@schumanhuman]

Sun Yat Sen was inspired by the success of the Kiachow German protectorate 1898-1914, which used a single tax on land. course.earthrightsinstitute.org/?q=node/104

[@YoungTheFish]

5:16 I love how I'm always that guy who point out your mistakes... Sorry I love u.

[@HanzGrozny]

How does a cat uses blades to shave

[@ShirakamiKaiser]

Happy birthday to the only country used Three Principles of the People.

[@snazzrazzmazzlejazz8974]

I’d watch a video on Georgism.

[@jwolfman665]

Hey Tiger, I really enjoy your videos, but sometimes I miss them in my subs feed because the thumbnails arent noticeable enough. Make them a bit more stand out. I.E bright colors, etc.

[@MikaelLaCas]

Hey love your vids

[@eduardoramos8618]

Can you do a video about seborga and why it should be independent? Or at least the reasons they say they have to be independent?

[@petersmythe6462]

"Both Chiang Kai Shek and Mao Zedong" Agreed these principles were good and therefore under no circumstances should the other side be allowed to implement them?

[@wjbqmzl4223]

Chiang Kai Shek pretty much agreed on the surface, because he basically become a dictator right after he took power.

[@チヱ]

What a coincidence, I just got back to Taiwan yesterday. Now suffering a bit of jet lag lol

[@scottylilacleona9193]

You still haven't uploaded the part two of you libertarian video. I get it, you might be busy and want to work on other projects. But the first video was well received, and it has been a month when you promised a week.

[@elcomandante3963]

5:14 I think you accidentally put minquán twice, or was that an artistic choice?

[@Cybernaut551]

I appreciate Sun Yat-sen 孫中山

[@QuizmasterLaw]

Background music is beautiful and sad; title?

[@modernhistoryencyclopedia7588]

I hear Kevin MacLeod music in the background. I like this video instantly.

[@rezmir7115]

Do you know what's the title of the track specifically? edit: lol nvm, found it: Opium

[@SargentoBonzo]

Probably the only things that both the Chinese Communist party and the KMT can agree on is that both revere San Yet-sen. BTW, please do a video about Georgism.

[@personinapurplebackground7410]

2:13 instantly liked

[@Visuzureageleer]

@4:15 It was not clothing, food, housing, healthcare but.. clothing, food, housing and MOBILITY!

[@imperiumromanum7375]

I wonder if there is anyone still alive from China who was born before 1911

[@QuizmasterLaw]

Chinese is a language; Cantonese, Mandarin, Hakka etc. are dialects. The written language is the same.

[@Stalinsmustache]

Those are the three faction of the left Kuomintang in Hoi4 kaisereich.

[@MrTohawk]

How about a map change episode on Pheasant Island?

[@nathanperlman6378]

Please do a video on georgism if you can i would love to see that

[@efrainrodriguez2868]

please make a video about the history of the Dominican Republic in all the years

[@Tsukiko.97]

Why upload so late?

[@DillonONeil]

I am a history major because history is cool

[@jonahbrown4408]

Another great video and I hate taxes.

[@tuxedo_productions]

:GeorgistTigerstar:

[@Justt436]

The Three Principles have also been immortalized in Taiwan's national anthem.

[@saiom6291]

the national character of the Republic of China

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

Minzu 民族 really can't be translated into "populism" that is 民粹. It's just nationalism, and normally does have an ethnic connotation. More than "nation" does in English. The orginal republican revolution was advertised an Han nationalist revolution against the Manchu imperal rulers, with Sun's group slogans like "expel tartars, reestablish China" Though after estabiment of the Republic, there was a shift to add the minorities ethnic group into the "Chinese Nation" so it became more like civic nationalism. Also, the Muslims here are known as the Hui, they are their own ethnic group, more assimilated than the Uyghers, and different from them.

[@moisesmaciel5123]

please, make a video about georgism

[@colonelajax4761]

I lived in Shanghai for a year and a half. And have forgotten all my Mandarin

[@jamestang1227]

3 years for me, nothing left of all those Mandarin lessons.

[@reillywalker195]

Perhaps "Mínsú" is best translated into English as "national unity" or something to that effect.