Sunbracers NERFED, Cenotaph Mask NERFED & Exotic Artifice Mods | Destiny 2 The Final Shape

[@lucienmoolman8017]

Mask of the quiet one is really living up to its name, quietly passing by each exotic balance patch

[@saltydog7482]

Could literally just make a kill while critical grant cure or cure x2. Instead of just keeping you in critical. I never understood the benefit of healing just enough to still be 1 shot from nearly any damage

[@mr.goochthethird1222]

Real

[@Lorentz_Driver]

​​@@saltydog7482Weaker Devour on void precision kill could be cool

[@saltydog7482]

@Lorentz_Driver true. I'll always be down for any method for getting devour. Honestly surprised it wasn't nerfed in the final shape updates. Since they seemed to gut all the strong abilities

[@Gojirathelink]

As a mask of the quiet one main, only because of sentimental value, it fucking sucks lol, never gets any buffs and gets powercreeped by litteraly everything.

[@q.7556]

Gotta be the most mid armor tuning patch of all time. The amount of absolutely awful exotics for every class is notable, and none of them got touched.

[@alaskayoung3413]

EXACTLY what I said! Whole vault full of exotics that I could delete and never know they were gone and they didn’t touch but like two of them. And they’re so freaking easy to fix. They fixed doomfang from useless to usable in all forms of the game just by adding weapon surges to it….. for fuks sake bungie how lazy can u be. Khepri change isn’t going to make any difference.

[@riffmcnasty8713]

We still have updates coming from some, maybe not all. It's a bit soon to get upset, they just announced changes people suspected for some time. How much more before people are okay again? Bungie cooks, people complain, bungie doesn't cook, people complain, bungie does nothing, people complain. It's not that the game isn't balanced, it's the player base

[@lucienmoolman8017]

Literally almost choked to death from all the dust inside my mask of the quiet one when I tried it last week

[@alaskayoung3413]

@@riffmcnasty8713 nobody has complained about into the light patch. All I’ve seen is massive props to what they did and for them listening etc.

[@joemama9457]

​@@riffmcnasty8713there's no way to make everyone happy kinda obvious

[@DrNotnert]

What a real letdown of an Exotic tuning pass. It was "This works with Prismatic now!" changes and mostly nerfs. There are Exotics in the game that are functionally useless that could've been touched, but we got a whole buncha nothin instead

[@riffmcnasty8713]

Nothing? We are still all speculating on Information provided, with more on the way and you'd rather see the glass half empty?

[@adoboflakes8473]

@@riffmcnasty8713 Because the glass is always half empty when it comes to Exotics. Exotics are meant to be the filling of the build crafting sandwich in this game and half of the exotics are ass with some of the laziest effects and tune ups ever. Underused exotic that is powercrept by years of gameplay changes? "Let's just slap on some weapon surges on it"

[@SmokinTonic]

@@riffmcnasty8713what r u on, the glass already shattered all over the floor man this patch blows

[@FlashesSoccer011]

The gladd has been emtoy for years now. Bubgie refuses to fill it up. ​@@riffmcnasty8713

[@colinmx.]

Everytime

[@DarkMatter98653]

“We heard you guys are using sunbracer!” -Bungie “Ya because you keep killing our other exotics, and onslaught seemed like a fun place to use them” -warlocks “Cool… we’re nerfing sunbracers because you seem to be using them” -Bungie

[@squidy4082]

It’s literally one of the best warlock exotics because everything else is dogshit

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

Lmfao my guess is they're taking a massive dump on the useful exotics to add incentive to use prismatic/ newer exotics rather than going with "ol faithful"... it blows dog ass either way but I get why they're doing it

[@squidy4082]

@@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo but there’s dozens of exotics that are beyond dogshit

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

@@squidy4082 oh definitely. Like, wtf is Lunafactions after they nerfed it into the ground? Probably half of warlock kit Wil be trash now with the nerf of well too since nova bomb isn't dps king like it used to be and chaos reach nerf made it useless (and made geomags useless by proxy). I could legit spend a good amount of time going down the list of each trash exotic if you have the time lol. Trust me, I get what you're saying, but they're specifically targeting the ones that players are using. They don't want anybody using them when you get the new abilities and exotics. It's a cheap way to get people to engage with the new stuff. I'm not saying what they're doing is good, I'm just saying I see what they're doing.

[@squidy4082]

@@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo but sunbracers has always been used the same? Maybe because solar was really good this season, but next season it’ll drop off anyways ?

[@nastynate46]

Solar Warlocks were just looking off into a field listening to Bungie tell em about the rabbits they gonna get to tend to...

[@Pj32Sr]

I always wanted to see Montana 😵

[@berthein5476]

Solar warlocks are effectively useless now. We got nothing left. Literally fucking nothing. Well - nerfed / phonix nerfed and beyond useless / sunbracers nerfed. Also useless now. / daybreak useless in pve

[@berthein5476]

Starfire * not phoenix

[@uptjay]

​@@berthein5476sunbracers are still good you trippin

[@colinu9105]

@@berthein5476 my brother in christ it's not that big of a deal. Chaining infinite solar nades aren't going to be any different, so long as you're using them right it'll be fine. besides, with prismatic, it can very well just make it better with the ability to match melees from other classes, like arc slide. also also: aren't you damn tired to running solar? Every warlock at some point complains of running solar all the time- now you can use something else. hop off the solar dick and let's try the frost armour with osmios!

[@TheEverydayGamer1000]

Synthos nerf and they still feel like the only decent general play option. Was really hoping for more buffs all around especially on underused exotics

[@Captain-Nikolai]

bro fr at this point just quit the game stop wasting time with shitstiny and bungies subpar dev team. they dont know what they are doing they just nerfing shit cause dogshit elitists are crying over it insert saltacucko with the divninity cause he nearly got ran on the worlds first raids.

[@alaskayoung3413]

As a Titan main it is tuff these days. I wanted Saint 14 buff and something else atleast. 95% of our exotics are completely useless even in normal strikes.

[@DeanVarney]

​​@@alaskayoung3413Saint 14 is getting kind of a buff, indirectly. Armor of light and weapons of light both are on it now. Which makes me wonder if the exotic glave bubble will now get both buffs too.

[@drewuekert1]

Titans are meant for close range melee with high risk, high reward but Bungie clearly doesnt like that anymore so they nerf anything melee related. But what they dont do is replace it with something else. Kinda of hard when all titan range melees are trash in high end gameplay, with the exception of concentration, which has limited range.

[@SuperAwesomeaussie]

​@@DeanVarney Not a buff when they have literally ripped the ability from the super and placed it on the helm. Means it's a necessity to run it now if you want to run bubble.

[@vexmythoclast9476]

Necrotic Grips dodging a nerf hypes me up so much holy hell.

[@gzoe247]

😂😂😂 do they hate their game man......

[@Tyto-ATTA]

I’m hoping gyrfalcon doesn’t get nerfed at all

[@Alex-ug9wx]

It’s weird though because they have more ad clear potential in ad-dense encounters. They nerfed CR on special GLs purely because of how “onslaught revealed its over-performance”… what? How are they judging what should or shouldn’t be nerfed? 😂

[@Matisyahuwu]

The nerf to necrotic grips was just nerfing Osteo lol.

[@jb2257]

@@Matisyahuwulol osteo does zero damage get you a master worked thorn and the game is actually easy

[@Snoddy2Hotty]

So all my Titan Exotics sitting in my Vault doing jack shit are going to keep on keepin' on with being shite? Gotcha

[@nathanroyster1324]

it's so frustrating.

[@GoyaPaco]

They literally don’t care about us 😂

[@yashmalushte]

Mask of the Quiet One, Arbor Warden, Crest of Alpha Lupi, all useless imo.

[@GoyaPaco]

@@yashmalushte quiet would be the best of the 3 tbfh all it needs is a slight heal buff, but arbor wardens? As funny as it is to punch a nade it is practically useless tbfh

[@nathanroyster1324]

@@yashmalushte I don't know what the plan was for arbor warden. It has been useless its entire existence

[@TheGerardo136]

All I got from this is bungie telling warlocks “we get warlocks are only good for support especially solar. So we’re gonna nerf tf out of solar warlocks and make yall more useless than you already are and not really give any buffs to other subclass so you’ll struggle to find a good subclass build. -sincerely, bungie team”

[@XXnoblev2XX]

I’m going to keep using my void builds. I’ve been using verity’s brow on solar this whole season because of the solar synergy from the artifacts but once that is done it’s back to my void warlock.

[@simplyfitness892]

Already are? Brother they’ve been the most meta shit ever since day 1 when has good teams not used a well in literally any content.💀.

[@ross6789]

This, like ffs there are so many areas warlocks need major help in. - Nova bomb needs a further buff - weavewalk needs two fragment slots + perhaps make it so you can perch two more threadlings than usual. - chaos reach needs a buff so its not trash without geos - nova warp? Never heard of her - dawnblade, PvE specific buff to damage or duration. (Doesnt have to be big but something is needed) - Winters Wrath, trash in PvE. Theres a reason people rock agers. Needs a big duration buff or just remove the penalty when you release shockwaves. - stasis melee, range or damage buff please, and make it less likely to wiff/just not count with direct hits (happens to me all the time in pvp) - stormtrance, buff to initial landfall damage. Fine apart from that. - icarus dash, think its needs a minor passive effect adding ie procs radiant for you alone for 5 seconds (can be extended with solace ect). - the other two stasis fragments (not bleak watcher or iceflares) so irrelevant I cant even remember there names rn. Thats not even addressing the class wide issue of our laundry list of useless exotics. Skull of ahamkara being one Aztec mentioned.

[@SilverShot114]

​@@simplyfitness892the problem was that well was the only good warlock super. Everything else falls off in master or grandmaster content. "Born to Nova, firced to well" exists because of bungies horrible balancing decisions.

[@aronaugsburg2166]

@@XXnoblev2XXyes but it looks like shit

[@RicJangles]

bro they’ve acknowledged how Arcstrider struggles in high-difficulty content, and now they want to nerf combination blow + assassin’s cowl make it make sense.

[@L4Disillusion]

They're Joe Biden supporting lunatics. Crazy leftists dint make sense.

[@sir_gort]

With Combination Blow being a powered melee, wouldn't that specific build effectively not change? The only thing I could see being different is if you end up without your gambler dodge ready for some reason.

[@Yumiaia-26]

​@@sir_gortyou could use combination blow wi no meele charge

[@sir_gort]

@@Yumiaia-26 Ah, I see. I forgot that part because I havne't played Hunter in a little while. That change kinda sucks then.

[@SLUGY000]

This kinda kills grapple melee and assassin cowl combo which sucks

[@SkyCrimson]

I was prepared for the well nerf. But the damn sunbracers nerf caught my ass off guard. Meanwhile, we have a treasure trove of just dead exotics in our vault. . . . .

[@XBullitt16X]

Right ? So many bad exostics that they just don't touch.

[@aidanmackenzie1042]

I mean it’s by far the most popular and used Warlock exotic in the game. If ANY exotic was going to be reigned in it would be that one. I don’t really see how it could catch u off guard.

[@Zio-e5t]

Lol how could it catch you off guard. Sunbracers allows a warlock to take over the fun from their teammates.. it's too much. it's cool when soloing, but when you've teammates, it makes it too hard for them to compete for kills.

[@ek5268]

Don’t listen to these guys, this was a surprise nerf to everyone and is quite upsetting no matter what the know-it alls say. Especially with this stacked with the well nerf

[@jonahbrown5669]

​@@ek5268It wasn't a "surprise nerf" at all.

[@buckaroobanzai2551]

Sunbracers have worked the same way since day 1. Why on earth does it need a nerf? There goes using warlock ever again.

[@XBullitt16X]

Right ?

[@meshman4236]

Almost like a new super you need to pay for is dropping

[@colonelswoleders4559]

You're acting like it's dead, it's just gonna have one less grenade

[@meshman4236]

@colonelswoleders4559 people don't like to remember their build by how powerful it used to be. Not much fun when you no longer feel stronger than you used to

[@dorkpool768]

@@colonelswoleders4559ikr 1 less nade and a shorter activation window and they act like it’s complete trash

[@Johnny_Moonshine]

Bungie gave us a great piece of content in Onslaught and the Into the Light expansion, listened to all of our critique to butter us up to pull the rug from under us and nerf the crap out of everything 😅 should have seen it coming really, they always do this

[@alaskayoung3413]

Haha that’s what I said. I’d rather they delay final Shape to….. like…. Finally shape shit?

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

Yeah it's typical Bungie sadly. 2 steps forward 1-2 steps back, basically the entirety of their development history with Destiny 2 and Destiny in general.

[@XBullitt16X]

Right ? This is the best and most awesome the game has felt in years, only to have everything I loved get shat on.

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

@@XBullitt16X It's why I haven't preordered Final Shape. Onslaught and this past update has been really solid, but Bungie hasn't earned anything back in terms of trust after Lightfall and how bad they let the game get. Their track record is still terrible outside of Sony forcing them to break the emergency glass.

[@trashjash]

​@@TeKnoVKNG23 Good to see at least one other person that didn't immediately just begin slobbering on Bungie's toes because they pumped out a quick and dirty content drop stuffed with fan favorite gear and an activity type we've asked for for years and pulled two of the best exotic missions out of the vault. I don't trust Bungie, they haven't shown me that as a studio they respect their players, so I'm still planning on dipping out after Final Shape. I've got things to do with my life that are more fun and productive than dumping time into an overmonetized product that fails to deliver a satisfying experience or story sixty percent of the time. Sure I might come back to play some stuff from time to time, but I'm not gonna mainline D2 like how I used to back in the day.

[@Monte_Carlo451]

Bungie dev loves nerfing shit but not buffing anything

[@XBullitt16X]

Yeah i fucking hate it

[@poggersplayer69]

Bro we've been power creeping so hard these past couple of years what you mean

[@meshman4236]

​@poggersplayer69 should never have to nerf things EVERY TIME. If bungie wants to awnser power creep then just make content mechanically harder

[@trashjash]

​@@meshman4236 Nah, their answer is "Just nerf the things players use most and redouble the health pool of the new bosses, that will surely give the consumers the challenge they crave!" instead of, I dunno, creating new mechanics to make fights more interesting and require more skills than understanding how to multiply numbers with buffs.

[@meshman4236]

@@trashjash agreed

[@rogerhuston8287]

Need to nerf other subclasses so people use Prismatic.

[@ciguret]

Lol

[@thessaloniousbadonkious]

That's crazy, seeing how Prismatic...takes those abilities from said subclasses.

[@MPblackpride6950]

You're literally going to be using it either way. What's your way?

[@JungGun-x-]

Bungie really looked at how helldivers 2 does balance and said “I like that, I like that a lot”

[@CGormanR35]

Literally they want to make the game harder to play when not using Prismatic

[@lueboytheman9508]

Kinda hurts because I left destiny for helldivers 2 and after that got nuked I look to destiny only for it to be getting nuked even more... Tetris is looking fun again.

[@Bloodhurl67]

​@lueboytheman9508 Watch it man, they're gonna be nerfing the line piece if you say that

[@d2thagman894]

Love having my class identity being melee-focused and then having the exotics made for the focus nerfed. Also, severance enclosure?! Why?!

[@Yumiaia-26]

Yea us warlock an titan mains be getting attacked TwT the class identity to warlocks largely has been healing support secondary bu healing primarily...an now the healing super has its healing nerfed...instead of nerfing other parts of it or buffing other stuff...neither of us be aloud to be our classes sometimes I swear...

[@CephalonAxii]

@@Yumiaia-26 Can't help but notice that Necrotic didn't get the same treatment though. Meaning you lot can still unpowered melee spam that, and it'll work fine. Karnsteins too.

[@yulfine1688]

@@CephalonAxii because osteo was nerfed, thorn works though assuming it doesn't get nerfed or changed again

[@CephalonAxii]

@@yulfine1688 Okay… But we are talking about unpowered melees my guy. Not guns. Not that it matters, because again, Necrotics and Karnsteins are going to work just fine with or without the use of a powered melee. Whereas Severance, is ONLY useable via a powered melee.

[@pcov7692]

All I heard was that Bungie doesn't care about Warlocks at all. 😮‍💨

[@supermaneuverable]

Seems like bungie just doesn't care much about exotics full stop lol

[@owmzy9436]

Titan looking at warlock while being hung "first time?"

[@stonelessohio5694]

​@@owmzy9436lol

[@stonelessohio5694]

​@@owmzy9436lol

[@stonelessohio5694]

​@@supermaneuverable definitely

[@randohan]

Bungie wants Titan to be the melee class but they went ahead to nerf syntho damn

[@Lord_Chibi]

And buff glaive hunter ...

[@subbn]

Its like the 5th time they nerf syntho too😂

[@basedlibertyprime]

The first syntho glaive nerf was when I stopped playing the game, I only came back for into the light. With the new round of nerfs to melee titan I’m probably going to stop playing again.

[@adamboy0559]

Killed melee titans killed solar warlocks. All they seem to want to do in tfs is nerf everything good and make the game so boring. I hope I’m wrong but I’m not a fan of these changes at all

[@stonelessohio5694]

Omg I was literally going to say this Idk what bungie thinking

[@animeanimal2222]

Smh this nerf to Warlocks is bs. I swear if my arc or stasis builds get ruined, I'm done. Don't care how nice final shape is or isn't. Now is not the time to be nerfing everything

[@lj1393]

Facts

[@tgi_fibber4206]

Bungie out here taking away any reason for me to run solar warlock these past few days. Jesus Christ.

[@14AllanD]

My warlock heart is hurting lmao, especially as a solo player

[@XXnoblev2XX]

Verity’s brow for solar warlock is the best anyways, gonna have to tuck the well away and run the shittiest roaming solar super lol.

[@squidy4082]

Same :/

[@Lord_Chibi]

​@@XXnoblev2XXfor real this is literally just going to encourage Verity's brow teams

[@Ninheldin]

@@XXnoblev2XX We are getting a new one at least, maybe it will actually be good.

[@Bartonman]

Ouch, pretty sure synthoceps have caught a nerf every single balance patch for the past 3 years.

[@ImNexusss]

I was expecting a Lucky Pants nerf. The witness finna have 6 hunters spamming hand cannons at him

[@tylerward7068]

They should have buried that exotic. I can’t believe it was unscathed.

[@kcisthe1st]

Lucky pants not being targeted but sun bracers being nerfed shows the obvious bias at Bungie towards Hunter's. The only reason the hand cannon meta still survives it's because Bungie knows it would affect their precious hunters

[@beans7777]

Shhhh... They must not know.

[@Tung--]

I’m definitely going to quit if they nerf Lucky Pants

[@senate2674]

Theyre nerfing strand titan, but nononono, lucky pants is fine as is. Ye ok bungie

[@Pretralus]

That severance enclosure nerf is so sad bruh

[@nathanroyster1324]

i'm literally a strand, banner of war, severance enclosure main. It doesn't even make sense. The only reason you take the chance diving into a group of ads is because of the radius of damage. requiring line of sight is dumb. basically cut your damage by 2/3rds and anything that gets past me while im in a finisher animation will not only be constantly damaging me but will be at full health still

[@Pretralus]

@@nathanroyster1324 and if you're using roaring flames on solar, you didn't need to throw a hammer for severance to proc.

[@spaceunicorn9170]

@@Pretralus Sadly they are nerfing that too, after Final Shape you will have to use your melee ability for Severance and Assasins Cowl

[@thelrproject257]

straight fucking ridiculous nerf considering its already low usage now the exotic has been good for less than 6 months and is now dead

[@alster06]

Well that was .. Something BUT what about YAS? = Revert the PvE Nerf! Blight Ranger? Wormhusk Crown? = The Class Armour does the same now? Shinobu Vow? = Add ONE more Skip Projectiles? Sixth Coyote? = It's a decent exotic but Reaper intrinsically? That's hardly different than the Class Exotic Items Sealed Ahamkara Grasp? Khepri Sting? Raiden Flux? Lucky Raspberry? Raiju Harness? Gwisin Vest? Gemini Jester? Bombadiers? // Mask of the quiet ones? Helm of Saint-14? Thought it was supposed to have a change Loreley? Cadmus Lancecap? Just give it it's own Cooldown instead of making it share the Cooldown Citans Rampart? Icefall Mantle? Armour Warden? Severance Enclosure? Why? Like Why? I don't get it Eternal Warrior? Actium War Rig? Crest of Alpha Lupi? MK44 Stand Asides? Curaiss of Fallen Star? It needs a neutral game benefit Armamentarium? - Still half decent but Firepower intrinsic ain't gonna do much .. That's hardly different than the Class Exotic Items. // Ballidorse? That still ain't getting used when Bleakwatcher exists Boots of the Assembler? Make Boots of the Assembler and Lumina Combo Great Again! Promethium Spur? Crown of Tempest? Skull of Dire? Claws of Ahamkara? Stormdancers Brace? Sanguine Alchemy? Chromatic Fire? Wings of Scared Dawn? // Triton Vice Buff seems great though ....

[@EreptileDysfunction]

Well said I was extremely disappointed with this. Escpecially being a warlock

[@smushycows2334]

this comment wins, from any forum thread or on any youtube channel, you summarized the state of the D2 exotic world and how desperate and hungry it is for improvement lol. instead of buffing ALL the useless shit, they're nerfing the only things useable

[@S-TierIguess]

You cooked but I won’t accept ballidorse slander

[@patsonical]

As a Warlock, I'd take Stormdancer's Brace off of that list, it's surprisingly good imo after the super refund change

[@mythe6669]

Helmet of St 14 will provide weapon's of light which bubble by itself no longer does. But you're right, a lot of exotics could have used a buff to do more than occupy vault space while waiting for better days.

[@abqxillia2044]

Solar warlocks: Exist. Bungie: 'and i took it personally'

[@Blind3866]

Yea again Bungie's Balancing team fails. The weirdest changes, specially for Titans, and instead of Buffing other things to make them competitive or interesting or more fun. They nerf the one or two things we find that still manage to work well to provide some distinction from wearing regular Non Exotic Armor.

[@MarsMushroom]

My heart broke with the powered melee fix, unlimited severance was so good for keeping ads at bay in solo. I hope it doesn't include point-contact too

[@TheInfamousS]

It will eventually. They said they plan to implement the changes to all powered melee requirements in the future.

[@mr.goochthethird1222]

​Pain

[@fringehouse]

they need to make Severance either ignite or cause a scorch explosion on kill if they’re going to nerf it like that

[@evansaldana7399]

Damn...my combination blow+ amplified and over shields...

[@CephalonAxii]

I hate it. It means that we won't be able to use Severance explosion after explosion like we can now. Because Knockout and other aspects like it normally makes your unpowered melee, a powered, allowing you to get explosion after explosion. With this change, we will now only get the explosions after spending a melee charge. Melee charges that can take several seconds to get back unless you build into them specifically or use Monte. They just killed Severance in my eyes. I am beyond shattered, and f*cking pissed, because now it means the Prismatic build I had in mind with Spirit of Severence/Spirit of Contact is dead in it's crib.

[@Chickymasala]

BUNGIE’s back boys!!! - Fixed an issue no one cared about - Fixed an issue where players had fun - Actual complaints? Never heard of them, everyone loves destiny To be fair, they were making the right decisions for a bit too long with Into the Light. Gotta reset those expectations so they don’t get caught overdelivering

[@ScarletCrown_]

These Warlock nerfs are getting annoying a hell!

[@jrockz133t]

That nerf to powered melee is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I disagree with this change. So you're telling me as a void titan, my melee while overshield active can't proct ANY powered melee skill? HoIL is now slightly worse, Severance Enclosure not worth it. What do you want from me? To be forced into the bubble Helm of Saint 14 set up only?

[@gavinhazan1415]

Ik it hurts but try Second Chance brother. With the right build it’s significantly better than people give it credit for

[@jrockz133t]

@@gavinhazan1415 I probably will honestly, just because of the buff to their tracking. I didn't like that exotic before because that melee felt like it didn't thow correctly or bounce correctly to damage enemies, but now I may try it out

[@mr.goochthethird1222]

​​@@jrockz133tdoomfang pauldrens is fun as it is now, with that update it will be WAY more consistent

[@ross6789]

You could do a void titan peregrine greaves build to absolutely wreck tormentors. Of which there will be plenty.

[@dookgaming627]

exactly!! titans CANNOT proc anything unless is it killed with a punch. and they decide to nerf that.

[@pixelrubbish]

I am now convinced that Onslaught and Pantheon were just a way to trick us into revealing the builds we lean on the hardest… and then kill then

[@ruddredding]

Bungie is putting ALL their eggs in Final Shape by nerfing everything old, if the new stuff is shit they will bleed out quickly. It only took 1 day to realize Lightfall SUCKED it will be even faster with all the changes they are making

[@allegedgaming306]

The Starfire Protocol Agenda is pleased by this news…

[@justiron2999]

Enough, I will not tolerate any of this sunbracers slander.

[@Gustavinngrade]

Man they just don't want us to have solar grenades....

[@chem2430]

GUTTED AND THEN GETS AN ORNAMENT AFTER 9 YEARS OF BEING A DAMN BATHROBE

[@Alex-qo4ol]

@@justiron2999 whomp whomp

[@whitemagedende3591]

Starfire protocol was nerfed too

[@twitsik8966]

salt deserves hate for the sunbracers nerf

[@ItsSoloh]

Who?

[@super-manny5648]

Is he like that elitist crybaby or something

[@stonelessohio5694]

​@@super-manny5648I guess so

[@that1voodooguy]

Sunbracers were already kind tricky to activate depending on the enemy... now there's even less room for error.

[@InsidiakMFWA]

That's kinda why I never really used them and find the outrage rather novel. Sunbracers are only as popular right now because content creators made them so.

[@Robin_hsr12]

Naw i was a day 1 sunbracer user. Criminally underrated ​@@InsidiakMFWA

[@pch1370]

I'm starting to believe TFS's campaign and raid isn't gonna be the brutally hard experience we were expecting. They are nerfing the strongest exotics so we don't breeze through it like the rest of the game.

[@moayadf7608]

They really said to solar warlock : No well of radiance and no Fusion grenades and no sunbraces how about that

[@patsonical]

You're gonna use Wings of Sacred Dawn and you're gonna like it!

[@Cryptoholic-g7p]

They never touched fusion grenades

[@stonelessohio5694]

​@@Cryptoholic-g7phe means the exotic chest piece for fusion nades

[@yulfine1688]

@@stonelessohio5694 fusion nades do very well currently.. aztec even showed that off in legend onslaught

[@Reksrat]

You’re so right about blight ranger at the end there lol. It’s literally the only exotic I haven’t unlocked because there’s no sense in putting the effort in. It needs some love bad

[@TheInfamousS]

...And Bungie's irrational hatred of all things melee based on Titans despite the fact they forced that class identity down our throats against our will in the first place continues. The powered melee change is one of the most idiotic nerfs I've seen the balance team implement in years. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️🤦

[@iwishihadgoodinternet7766]

was the severance nerf really necessary ? i was expecting a buff lol

[@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX]

It looks like Phoenix Protocol or Dawn Chorus usage might go up for solar Warlocks now after the Sunbracers nerf.

[@gzoe247]

Just why tho ????

[@Alex-ug9wx]

PP is probably the second most used solar exotic on warlock. At least from what I see in high end content, especially GMs.

[@IIzanagii]

Their uses won’t go up at all. Sunbracers is still going to be really good, it’s just 2 less seconds and 1 less grenade

[@Seleguadir]

Mantle will see a lot more play, honestly.

[@NosirrathOfficial]

@@gzoe247 My phoenix protocol build means that I never have less than 70% of my Well super energy. Often times I can literally chain Wells back to back

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

The final shape: a nerf hammer

[@joshuacanny4858]

Ive been using sunbracers with top tree dawnblade since the beginning of d2. Never took them off my solar downblade

[@gengarclefairy3475]

It’ll still be amazing you just get 1 less grenade

[@joshuacanny4858]

@@gengarclefairy3475 ya true . I still plan on keeping them on. I really don't like changing my builds. I been using downblade 95% for yrs until strand came out. Downblade is my favorite super & strand is my second favorite

[@Anthony-tn5gp]

Yeah, I see people saying that they ruined sunbracers but like.. c’mon, it’s still going to be at the top of the meta

[@Hollowptgenius]

​@@gengarclefairy3475I'm hoping that if you cannot complete the final shape raid then your character is deleted to fit in with the story arc. It's just 1 raid in a story right?

[@Razer5542]

Hopefully Cenotaph still gives some sort of indicator when marking a enemy with a trace rifle, otherwise it's perk works against itself...

[@connormcateer7125]

Ikr, Bungie was all about quality of life tuning then they pull this? Makes literally 0 sense, I think everyone I watched react to that besides cross all said “what why?”

[@Doomweapon66]

I had to go and reread it but judging by the description of the nerf, it looks like the target lock indicator for Cenotaph won't show up for the person using it and only other people can see it. That's gotta be one of the dumbest nerfs Bungie has ever done in general because if the person applying the debuff can't see if they've applied the debuff, then it just means that you could be wasting ammo for no reason. There's a very good reason me and all of the people I know who've played D2 in any significant way all agree that Bungie doesn't play their game or at least doesn't play it in the same way as it exists for the general player base. This belief has already been very solidified for us but that part of the Cenotaph nerf is the perfect evidence for justifying that belief.

[@connormcateer7125]

@@Doomweapon66 Read your reply and I absolutely agree, I can only hope there’s SOME indicator that we’ve marked at all. And I hope it’s more than the “target marked” buff, bc I wanna know WHO is marked at any given time and there’s already too many buffs to read

[@Razer5542]

@@Doomweapon66 Exactly 👌

[@meshman4236]

Bungies awnser to power creep at the end of the game is to just nerf every exotic. Whats the piont man. Just buff bad exotics. If your worried about power creep bungie then just make👏content👏harder👏through👏mechanics! Nobody has fun when they are reminded that they were more powerful in the past

[@yulfine1688]

there is a limit to just mechanics to make something harder without buffing enemy hp and damage constantly to keep up, it turns into a mess.. thats now how you balance and how bungie balances isn't how you balance either

[@meshman4236]

@yulfine1688 no I don't mean it as an all solution. I'm saying years and years of this hp and damage changing NOW needs more mechanics because bungie has relied too long on health and damage. Look at warlords ruin and gotd. Mechanically simple but are seen as hard due to the massive boss hp and damage. Had the bosses have less hp and more balancing mechanics like the rebuff you have to remove by melee and capturing zones during the end of the warlords ruin boss fight, these would be seen as more entertainingly hard rather than cheaply hard due to you actually having to think and not failing due to repetitive artificial difficulty from massive hp bars. Right now it's do these simple mechanics and repeat it 3-6 more times because bosses have soo much health. I'd rather have a boss with less health that I feel proud of defeating from overcoming and juggling mechanics than feel drained from repeating the same thing 5 times.

[@KayronTho]

All these changes are to get us to basically buy the DLC and use their prismatic subclass. Thats all that I get from these changes.

[@XBullitt16X]

Yes same, forcing us to use prismatic or suffer.

[@KayronTho]

@@XBullitt16X I understand that they want us to use your new stuff, but we as players have a right to our favorite builds. That’s What makes me not want to play the game at all man.

[@Hollowptgenius]

​@@KayronThoagreed, don't buy the expansion. I'm not. Bungie won't learn if you reward them with money. Wait a month and complain, if sales drop Sony takes over and then organize a letter with a 100k signatures telling them to reverse nerfs and rework old exotics. That effort is worth it.

[@ScottHChen]

It’s what we expected of Bungie. Nerf everything that feels rewarding / powerful to make the new prismatic subclass “feel” overpowered in order to “entice/lure” players to buy final shape. Sad, they did so well with Into the light update and recent weapon /ability balancing only to disappoint with these upcoming changes…however, we will adapt and continue find better ways to play!

[@Dufftyr]

Since this is a preview, im hoping they're just holding the big changes for launch, but this is a pretty embarrassing selection of changes to show. Mostly fixes, and a pile of nerfs, but Kephri's is getting buffed :)

[@overweightmale6066]

Bungie: we want titans to be a melee based class. Also bungie: nerf melee, we don’t like that.

[@stonelessohio5694]

Honestly I fell like bungie doesn't know wtf they are doing sometimes

[@Aiafati]

In this update, Severance Enclosure is like that silent kid in the back of the classroom that does all it can to avoid getting called by the teacher to answer problems on the board but then gets called anyway just because.

[@madddogg145]

They are killing potent builds.. tickle the enemies in Final Shape

[@XBullitt16X]

yeah it fucking sucks

[@roccaraso1771]

the final shape, the dlc of the warlock nerfs

[@alaskayoung3413]

Uhhh you seen titans lately. There’s almost nothing we have that hasn’t been nerfed or nerfed for second or third time in a row. Almost every exotic is useless but like 4.

[@CGormanR35]

Thank god im a hunter 😂

[@XBullitt16X]

@@alaskayoung3413Agreed, Titans and Warlocks have got hit disgustingly hard, meanwhile hunters have practically gotten off with a tap on the wrist.

[@alaskayoung3413]

@@XBullitt16X ya I tooo a break from Titan first half of season bc Titan had nothing but strand and mained hunter for first time. I was blown away how many builds they have and how many exotics work and almost all in endgame level. Like there is more viable just void hunter builds than there are of ALL Titan builds combined.

[@voltus20]

​​@@alaskayoung3413 with the latest nerfs, warlocks only have 1 decent super left, which locks you into strand, and about 80% of their exotics are completely useless.

[@toolsheen136]

Secant Filaments change is appreciated, as using it with Feed the Void would sometimes result in being restricted to the shorter max timer that Feed the Void provides.

[@Fizzbizz]

Yep, I like it as well. Gonna work nicely with my Secant + Tommy's Macbook Pro build

[@MrDeworDie]

At this point they might as well change "Biotic Enhancements" to "Dad Bod." Why even call it Synthoceps anymore? Its not even close to what it used to be. No lunge distance anymore, way less Biotic damage, and now shorter timer on Biotic.

[@warbeastprime1287]

What's the point of exotics at this point might as well just remove em if they really don't do anything exotic

[@POOCOMESFROMFOOD]

honestly id be happy just with lunge distance back, even if they took away the damage buff

[@warbeastprime1287]

@jordancornell9364 heck nah I miss my lunge range but I'm not trading my damage for it I like being able to one punch red bars and the occasional orange bars with unpowered melee attacks if they took away the damage I would literally not wear any exotic

[@POOCOMESFROMFOOD]

@@warbeastprime1287 see I agree. But then there’s almost literally toreason to not use wormgod over them, caus worms stack to 200% increase. I just loved the lunge because it then made the exotic have some personality and not just be a flat here’s some damage kind of thing, ya know?

[@warbeastprime1287]

@jordancornell9364 you gotta get kills just to get extra melee damage with wormgods vs just being near the enemies with synthoceps that's why I'll take synthoceps cause I get the effect sooner also they look better

[@blackyonbi]

Ive been waiting so much for a Khepris horn buff

[@alaskayoung3413]

Still GMA be useless

[@chinbusy6336]

Me too... I love using it in PVP.

[@Lorentz_Driver]

Will be fun on prismatic thruster but otherwise useless.

[@gzoe247]

As i said before years before exotic don't feel like exotic no more

[@thisisntme5742]

Not no more no how. No.

[@XBullitt16X]

Yup

[@joshuawhite3336]

have you played D1? most of the exotic armor in that game did nothing.

[@sethman88]

Good news warlocks, I've been doing some work with sunbracers and though they are getting nerfed, its not as bad as it seems. Yes we go from throwing 5 nades to 4. But the 4 seconds to 2 thing is about how long they make the nades last extra, so with touch of flame our nades go from lasting 10 secs to 8, and without touch of flame they go from 8 to 6, so really its not all that bad.

[@MakiKatomori]

Bungie out here hunting supers and exotic armors only to murder them you damn poachers

[@axe2grind244]

They were big game hunting for sure

[@WolfOfItaly]

Don't understand the ceno nerf, in regards to the Mark no longer being seen by user..makes knowing when to stop firing harder so we get the Ammo. I like the Filaments buff now working how Well works. Just dip in and out and no longer fixed to stand in it.

[@patsonical]

I just wish Filaments gave you the full pre-nerf Devour effect, since you still need to use it on Voidwalker (or Prismatic), in which case you still can (and have to) equip Feed the Void. I just wanna be able to run all three aspects again without feeling like I'm just gimping myself

[@GreatDeamon]

BUFF alternatives instead of nerfs

[@super-manny5648]

THIS

[@EliteBlackSash]

There are literally exotics that have sat in most peoples collections collecting dust since the beginning. Lol. Surely that is every other exotics fault, and not the fact the exotic is nothing worth an exotic slot.

[@XBullitt16X]

This, we have so many bad exotics that if even one is good they nerf it, till that too is shit.

[@felwinterpeak1674]

So they helped Hunters throwing knife super exotic and celestial. They helped titans Ursa and gave pyro gauntlets. Yet the one thing the experienced warlocks want is at least a update for Skull of dire ahamkara.

[@alaskayoung3413]

Bro ursa doesn’t make a difference. Nobody will use, nor have they used for years. The gauntlet change was mostly glitch fix. They nerfed stasis melee, strand melee, strand grapple melee, banner of war, syntho, worm gods, ward of dawn as bad as well, woven mail which effects titans most bc its part of their kits focus….. this is after the last syntho nerf, last banner need, lorely trashed, citans trashed, reflecting legs in PvP trashed, hoil done for shall I go on? Don’t act like boo hoo for just locks. Other than starfire you haven’t been touched for a long time.

[@felwinterpeak1674]

@alaskayoung3413 you say all that, which means Titans have been op in pve ever since classes 2.0 has been implemented. Meanwhile, warlocks have been generally ever since then. Take a look at warlock content creators, and they will tell you that warlocks haven't been "all that" since the season that hit 2.0. Warlocks have no shatter proc in stasis. Warlocks don't feel like a threadling lord when titans and hunters can spawn them just as easy. Our IP nova bomb is the worst burst super in the game. Nova warp always shit in pve. Arc hasn't changed since forsaken besides the nerf of geomag. And solar only change is protocol. It's not the fact that no one will use Ursa. It's the fact that they updated it to help those who do get their super quicker. Meanwhile, our super exotic (Skull) is terrible. They need to either give it a super dmg perk or another way to increase super recharge. Any nerfs that did happen for warlock were the ones that were too easy or overused in pve and annoying in pvp. But nothing substantial. I'm not a idiot. I'm aware of the repeated nerfs for titans and hunters. But that's because you all got our "verbs" and get more dps shit than warlocks. While we get the ship helmet, a pet repeats exotic and tangle combo with threadling. Bungie is making us the support class while stating we are the spam class. And that's not true. Sunbracers, protocol, nezarc, and verity has been the build for most warlocks for a long ass time. I'm using other shit, but I know it's not S tier exotics for end game content.

[@CGormanR35]

@@felwinterpeak1674 And 9/10 times if you go into a Random group using the not S tier gear you get booted, Tried joining a group with my Warlock and got booted for it, Bare in mind im a Hunter main and dont run Well on Warlock and still get the boot 😂

[@felwinterpeak1674]

@CGormanR35 exactly my point. Warlocks stuck on WoR through out everything. And so bungie doesn't really give us any good exotic supers besides dawn chorus and that's not all that in my opinion. All others suck or are pointless. Good luck trying to shatter anything with the Braithwaite with your teammates there breaking them. Should just be a flat shatter dmg increase from anyone you freeze.

[@dvb8637]

​@@alaskayoung3413ikr 😂. Preach those facts to these crying locks smh.

[@Genehsys]

Why does bungo hate melee builds so much? Honestly they should just remove melee abilities at this point.

[@stonelessohio5694]

Honestly

[@adamc827]

I’m starting to rethink purchasing final shape. I want to be extremely powerful and breeze through the expansion. Getting sick of nerfs, screw the balancing and make us more powerful than we’ve ever been.

[@kodirt1]

I think bungee doesn’t realize they are hanging on by a wire and yet still trying to do things the same way thinking that what isn’t giving them success anymore somehow will all of a sudden. They should be absolutely leaning hard into the power fantasy and making everything powerful and fun and screw the balancing. They need people to be engaged and having a blast ripping through the game- not grinding. More nails on their coffin of what their company looks today. It will be vastly different very soon with a much different cast of employees

[@Hollowptgenius]

I've purposely not bought the expansion to teach Bungie a lesson and was planning on buying it tomorrow for$100. After this, nope not buying the expansion for another month. Bungie hasn't learned there lesson and I'm not paying for nerfed content, ducking period. At this point we all need to stand on principle alone and call them out for hyping a game that story wise makes no sense. You don't face the witness with nerfed content, it would be like Fighting a war without air power. War isn't balanced, it's kill or be killed. Are we at was for our existence in the game or not? Apparently not, so why play

[@lancebaggaley9433]

With the changes to stasis I’m suprised they didn’t make any changes to titans icefall mantle. I mean their adding a stasis overshield keyword it seemed like the perfect exotic to adjust and give some synchronization with that keyword.

[@Michael-ee4uz]

It's not an 'overshield keyword'. The Icefall overshield should stack with the damage resistance of Frost Armor. If Icefall was just Frost Armor it would be worse.

[@lancebaggaley9433]

I mean think about it it could grant you two versions of a boosted stasis overshield, one weaker which you get when use if your rally barricade and it give the rally barricade buff, and a stronger one when using the regular titan barricade.

[@lancebaggaley9433]

And they could repair when you gain stacks of the regular overshield.

[@EpicMelonMan82]

R.I.P. my Assasin's Cowl arc hunter :( was looking forward to using it with prismatic

[@colonelswoleders4559]

What?? The gameplay loop for Assassin's Cowl arc hunter is literally going to be exactly the same. It just means that you have to punch with combination blow every time instead of a normal melee

[@galaxybrainkid1222]

You just said it's exactly the same while detailing how it isn't. Wild.

[@colonelswoleders4559]

@@galaxybrainkid1222 If you aren’t doing it that way, then you’re missing out on damage. Lethal Current applies so much more damage than normal punching. That’s how you’re already supposed to use combination blow.

[@oxion2853]

​@@colonelswoleders4559 this. You do a dodge, meele, dodge, meele anyway. Nothing changes. Only thing that change is when you f*cked up your Dodge.

[@dragonfiresrage9202]

The change to star eaters seems to be a balancing pass for other classes getting access to it with the spirit of star eaters

[@smushycows2334]

idk if that's true though, because spirit of star eater only grants the overcharged super benefit. I think this nerf is specifically targeted at people abusing that infinite super chain they mentioned in the blog with golden gun. Seems like the wrong way to go about it though

[@jeremyalspaugh6843]

Synth: exists Bungie: how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

[@tycoterry20]

Us Warlocks are down bad .

[@Cryptoholic-g7p]

Not really, starfire is still going to be very viable

[@ka_killers2088]

@@Cryptoholic-g7pnot really they have been heavily nerfing warlocks for a while now for literally zero reason

[@ka_killers2088]

@@Cryptoholic-g7phunters have yet to constantly be hit with nerfs and bungie with their latest video shows why because most the team favors hunters and I find they very unfair

[@SirBagsAlot-fj3pe]

"Use prismatic or suffer" - 23 May 2024 bungie

[@nappy6806]

It’s almost bungie themselves built the entire titan class as “punch” the. Go back and do everything they can to make it hard for us to do or nerf it. AKA every boss pretty much having a stomp mechanic that does hefty damage plus nerf dam near every melee titan exotic

[@keithgabbard3539]

Bungie understands a LOT of players enjoy playing warlock so they gave them a great big ol nerf hammer on all their shit . Good going bungle .

[@lucienmoolman8017]

Glad bingo nerfed ammo finder mods since it doesn't affect me because all the ad-clearers in my fireteam refuse to wear them and suprise surprise, we don't have enough ammo to kill Nezzy and if you didn't use DARCI for ad-clearing we might have killed nezzy JAMAL

[@tanget1337]

The assassins cowl change makes me sad, mainly because i mostly use it as a grapple hunter. Doesn't seem much point building into grapple melee without it proccing assassins. I get the logic of you having to "spend" a melee charge, but i think they should make an exception for grapple melee on account of the fact you have to "spend" a grenade charge, particularly as they're also hitting grapple tangles at the same time.

[@rlferguson1161]

Why icefall mantle didn’t get the frost armor change confuses me.

[@alaskayoung3413]

They forget Titan is even a class after they give all the good parts to other classes.

[@Fizzbizz]

Good, I want to keep my overshield. It's going to be nice having that on top of Frost Armor.

[@rlferguson1161]

@@Fizzbizz yeah the slow its inflicts on you is still and always will be a poop trade for an overshield

[@blueoninico474]

I was just about to say that.

[@Yumiaia-26]

​@@rlferguson1161it ain tha bad skill issue tbh, I make alo of use of it it's very strong

[@micalick4059]

I’m convinced bungie hates warlocks the most

[@jaystwopence]

Well nerf now sunbracers... rip warlock

[@benoitgarin6477]

Oh yes, solar sunbracers, the only viable warlock build... (I never use it)

[@TargetSniper365]

Are you stupid lmao? That’s not even a nerf haha it literally is one less grenade hahaha

[@kcisthe1st]

Yeah warlocks have been power crept out the game. I'll text out the new sandbox before I decide to buy final shape. If they don't want us to warlocks I'll find another game to play I will not play Hunter

[@XBullitt16X]

This fucking hurts for sure a a Warlock main

[@TargetSniper365]

@@XBullitt16X this isn’t a nerf…it’s 1 less grenade

[@garrytehbest]

Sun bracers wellock is no more how sad, just means i get to go back to dawn blade

[@thomash8513]

Bro dawn blade is still beyond shit and sunbracers nerf literally does not change anything if they nerfed heat rises that would be a bigger nerf and well is just still objectively the best survivability in the game u can’t just sit in the well anymore

[@abelortiz3010]

@@thomash8513 dawnblade has been great this season tho

[@voltus20]

​@@thomash8513you can, you'll just have to use The Stag and drop a rift as well to get the extra damage resistance back alongside a healing grenade for the restorationx3 for the caster.

[@thomash8513]

@@abelortiz3010 it’s aight honestly it’s a fun option just not that great like well is literally a movement tech as well so I mean it’s fun to fuck around with dawnblade but like it doesn’t really do much aside from ad clear

[@nichompolas]

New Titan ahamkara exotic arms prolly a melee exotic

[@sentineltitan2348]

It’s funny that Bungie discourages melee and yet Titans are supposed to be the class designed for that. So dumb

[@strakk]

Basically the whole post is just bunch of nothing-burger with one pretty amazing change with the artifact exotic armor...

[@dredgen0268]

RIP Sunbracers. Also really wish they would’ve made Secant Filaments where they worked with any empowering rift, not just Void only.

[@jayb.3592]

Oh man I have been a sunbraces well lock for so long, it’s gonna be rough

[@squidy4082]

Same here :/

[@davidthorp7988]

Welcome to void.. where it’s got good survival, decent super, and purple explosions everywhere. Only buffs for void so far, so yay!

[@squidy4082]

@@davidthorp7988 void sucks for pve no ?

[@mythicaldragon2260]

@@squidy4082I been crutching sunbracers with the permanent x2 restoration. I’m happy restoration isn’t getting nerfed

[@davidthorp7988]

@@squidy4082 not really. Devour is really good for survivability, volatile rounds goes super hard for add clear. Nova yeah, it’s not the best or strongest damage super… but it still gets the job done.

[@mazman117]

More than half of my Titan builds just went into the toilet. I just spent the last 3 seasons trying to get a near perfect Severance Enclosure just to have it turned to literal shit. I had plans to have my Titan throw giant lightning bolts with Prismatic but Bungle just murdered that idea in its crib.

[@skaze8653]

Disappointed to see skull of dire ahamkara got no changes That thing is complete dogshit Super regeneration exotics clearly have no place in d2 right now, probably forever, just make it the "curiass of falling stars" of nova bombs I think it would be even better if those kinds of exotics also gave a siphon effect, so cuirass would give arc siphon and my ideal dire ahamkara would give a void siphon so that those exotics are not just swap exotics

[@thatoneguy2136]

Idk man, Shards of Galanor pretty busted with how fast and frequently you can spam Blade Barrages. That and Celestial are good ways of making Super Regen exotics worth it. Dire Ahamkara could be changed to something along the lines of “Vortex Grenade kills grant additional Super energy” similar to how knife or precision kills give bonus energy while using Shards or Celestial And it wouldn’t even be busted considering how hesitant Bungie is to buffing Nova Bomb’s damage

[@skaze8653]

​@@thatoneguy2136 I don't play hunter so I didn't know how shards worked exactly By super regeneration I meant like just using the super refunds energy, back in the day nova bomb could get like 80% energy back from a few kills, shards could get the same amount from just hits We'll have to see how good nova bomb is after the buff, I want it to do similar damage to thundercrash with curiass, but that would be too much so that's why I want skull to buff the damage

[@RageMagikarp]

Finally, I can create the final form of the Titan Bughat™️ Build. Consecration + triple strand melee + Khepri + Drengr's Lash = nothing but waves and waves of solar super death and suspensions for my enemies Also as a guy who had mained Ursa for YEARS whenever I played Titan, that buff is gonna have me eating SO GOOD

[@kel413]

Destiny 2: The Final Nerf

[@xkumanekox]

I came back to D2 to prep for Final Shape, but now hearing the news that Bungo is gonna practically murder both Well of Radiance and Sunbracers going into FS, man I'm livid, it's like there's no point in playing Solar Warlock anymore at this point. Bungo really be killing all my fellow Solar Warlock mains now, damn.

[@Hawk-Eye-bs2hr]

Play Warframe instead, at least DE tries to roll back bad nerfs almost immediately for example Dante.

[@alaskayoung3413]

Why could they not BUFF THE 20 USELESS EXOTICS EACH CLASS HAS IN VAULT! For eff sales bungie! Would it kill uou to make Saint 14 usable? Citans rampart? When was the last time someone wore Ursa? Jeebus drop the ball much.

[@jesseritchie9282]

But the Helm of Saint 14 is going to be able to give you weapons of light in bubble while blinding enemies as well...............

[@alaskayoung3413]

@@jesseritchie9282 doesn’t fix any of its issue. It does nothing for 99% of the time you wear it. Plus we don’t need the blind bc nothing really comes into it. All they would have to do is give it weapon dmg buff like they did doom fangs or eternal warrior etc and it would be gtg. Or make well movable. Or make h able to Shoot out of it for reduced dmg or something.

[@jesseritchie9282]

@@alaskayoung3413 I know I was being factious. Lol

[@alaskayoung3413]

@@jesseritchie9282 oh lol. Well I’ve got that same comment being serious on other videos like three times…

[@AeonsAegis]

My Hunter's been my main since the first game's beta. I always forget about, 'Blight Ranger.' Its, "Fantasy," takes away from the, 'Raiju's Harness,' experience.

[@chiefJmiah]

F it all. Give us the exotic fig leaf and a stick to battle the Witness.

[@ethant2116]

I’ve had fun getting back into destiny and trying all the warlock classes. Because of the artifact I mostly used solar to help my friends beat strong bosses and nightfalls. And today I finally got the sunshot, but because my of my job I’ll barley get to enjoy using it this week, and warlock solar is gonna be nerfed to the floor next week.

[@dacedave4161]

Was hoping they were going to buff heart of inmost light a little bit because that nerf was way too heavy on it. Add another second or two back come on. Cool Ursa buff though. I have a feeling that will be very important down the line. Eternal Warrior still mid and ugly 100% DAMAGE BUFF ON THE HORN? I gotta try that out now lol Thanks for reading

[@dookgaming627]

khepri's horn hits like wet noddles... now it'll hit like spicy wet noodle

[@syfonation6524]

Assassins Cowl used to proc off grapple melee hit. It was fantastic for big damage in and out quick and safely. Rip my Strand build.

[@cycosav]

I'm confused, will we be able to wear a regular exotic sling with the prismatic class item? Eventually wearing an exotic with a class item adding 2 other exotic abilities.... Or just the class item that we can mix and match some traits?

[@thatoneguy2136]

It takes up the exotic slot, so no. That would be insane having an exotic on top of the Prismatic Class item granting 2 exotic effects. So either you run an actual exotic or the class item granting 2 effects

[@cycosav]

@@thatoneguy2136 that's what I thought originally but hearing all these streamers talk about it got me confused. Thanks for replacing

[@Evilwombat]

AAAAND here's the catch I was talking about - remove all the fun stuff so we have to use prismatic. Bungie being Bungie.

[@superkamiguru3449]

As a Syntho main…f*ck that, force me from the best lookin exotic to one of the worst. Nahhhh, get my res I’m tired of not using what I want goin into the last goddamn chapter, been here since 2014 idc what they nerf or buff from now on

[@itscrosshairs9653]

List of exotics that SHOULD'VE been touched in this tuning: Blight Ranger, Skull of Dire Ahamkara, Mask of the Quiet One, Raiju's Harness, Apotheosis Veil, Sealed Ahamkara's Grasps, Gwisin Vest, Gemini Jester, Lunafaction Boots, Promethium Spur, Eye of Another World, and Mk. 44 Stand Asides. COME ON BUNGIE PLEASE