Sundown Audio Most Powerful 6 Inch Subwoofer - 5,000 Watt SPL Test - Music Demo - Box Design

[@kmp09]

That’s how you shoot a basshead video (take notice MB) especially the introduction of the subwoofer! Great job budget basshead!

[@hypefxx9011]

I like MB but he talks so slow and videos be too long some times. BB for the win

[@shanearnold6351]

Trippin

[@milesbachelor8747]

I subscribe to, and learn from both. MB is no tech wizard, but knows how to build a well performing box from a spec sheet. He’s built two for me. Mr Budget will put a sub in several environments and show you the results.

[@rubenavila8012]

Mb knows his boxes only seen few of this guy

[@milesbachelor8747]

@@rubenavila8012 His boxes are many. Never seen another builder match MB’s variety and formula. The programs can be followed by anyone with the tools. I’d have purchased a box from Mr Budget if he sold em. Budget ain’t afraid to experiment, zeroing in on production level.

[@BigJeffAudio]

First let me say each video you have stepped it up and I believe this is one of your best with all the time and info you put into. Thank you for letting Big Jeff Audio be apart of your platform and hope we can collab more in the future.

[@BudgetBassHead]

And thank YOU for the support. Discounts on large purchases allow smaller channels to bring new content.

[@shannonlamontupton4635]

​@BudgetBassHead is there a way I can dm you on a amplifier?

[@shannonlamontupton4635]

​@@BudgetBassHead do you have Instagram or Facebook?

[@CrystalClearSQL]

Those subs are so dope. And that box is beautiful... your schematics look great, very impressive.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Glad you like them!

[@johndevries8536]

I hope you are able to make your channel grow with the assistance of Big Jeff Audio. He really seems to be very generous with the people he supports. Thanks for your videos!

[@BudgetBassHead]

Thanks for watching and sharing

[@chokechange]

Awesome that we can see the subs moving as you meter.

[@embiggens1]

I'm not even super into this anymore, it just showed up on my timeline, but I had to like and comment for the production. Keep it going, I love it. Taking me back.

[@BudgetBassHead]

I appreciate that!

[@ST-IV_858]

Bet

[@RJSDZNS]

I'm running a single 6.5 ct sounds meso in my concrete mixer. People can't believe I'm running such a small sub for how loud it is. I'm a big fan of small subs. Great video

[@russelllopez4171]

I put 4 in my civic with an md3000. Did a transmission line and did 141.3 on the windshield and 1400watts. They sound awesome. They are nice and punchy.

[@RJSDZNS]

@@russelllopez4171 4 in a civic! I bet it sounds amazing!!

[@russelllopez4171]

@@RJSDZNS it did sound pretty good overall. But after some review, I would now say that it is more of a vented. Although there is not a difference in throat size of the vent from the “loading chamber” to the “vent”, I am restricting their air flow by having too small of a vent. I think it ended up being 10 sq in per sub. Either way, it left an impression on people. lol. Nice pick of woofer for the mixer 👍

[@JohnDoe-mx1sq]

In your what?! 😂

[@RJSDZNS]

@JohnDoe-mx1sq Yes sir, my concrete mixer! I have the full build over on my channel, go check it out!

[@BigJeffAudio]

I have watched this video 3 times and had my staff use it for training video.. super good job..

[@BudgetBassHead]

Glad it was of some use to you guys. More to come.

[@utubecomment21]

You need to get your staff to watch Pete's video *Acoustic Engineering Workflow* - Hexibase Channel If you think the above video is instructive (🤣😂😆🤣🙃) ... then Pete's video will blow your mind Nobody's is more instructive than Pete!

[@BenHarrison-tn4ko]

Man I've been subscribed and watching you for a few years now...awesome content and you've answered some of my questions about these enclosure styles you cover...Big Jeff is awesome as well and love his pod casts...I'm pumped to see you and Big Jeff networking!

[@BudgetBassHead]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@Randy_G]

I have been waiting forever to see someone with these subs

[@BudgetBassHead]

Glad I could assist.

[@303nitzubishi4]

Flirting with 140 is an accomplishment in itself but I'm more impressed with the lack of ripple across the frequencies you metered. Folks won't necessarily realize how musical this box probably sounds. No one note burp box here great job

[@BudgetBassHead]

You're the first to point that out. And yes, it is very musical.

[@b3llyfull]

How to you get a musical box. Im getting 2 sundown x8 v4s in a couple of weeks. And i love the way this sounds. Can you tell me what i need to do to get that sound?

[@BudgetBassHead]

@@b3llyfull to get musical is best to stick to the manufacturer's specifications as closely as possible. That's how they rate their box size suggestions. To get deeper Bass the boxes typically bigger. To get more accurate the box is usually smaller.

[@b3llyfull]

@BudgetBassHead Thanks for responding. Ill definitely be looking into that. Do you run Dsp?

[@BudgetBassHead]

@@b3llyfull yes. I have the Dayton Audio DSP408

[@ndoc8889]

Thank you for posting this! I have 6-6.5 X-V2s on similar power and was pondering upgrading. This is the first real world comparison I can actually use in making that decision.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Glad it helped.

[@1ohmwrecker]

Man, you know I been here since the beginning, and watching these videos grow have been crazy! The production and editing is crazy! 👏👏👏

[@BudgetBassHead]

I appreciate that!

[@levicrawford2242]

Bro I'm impressed. I have 4 DD 6.5 in subs in my mustang an they bang hard thanks to my man big jeff. Keep up the content everything you do is real informative am has helped me understand car audio a little better.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Glad you got some value from it.

[@mikeberndt181]

I appreciate your 3d animatiations. Ngl first impression I wasn’t sure if you were a serious builder. Thx for being a good builder & presenter once I saw the the your 3d I knew you’re dedicated. I can build boxes as well but seeing it executed with measurements was a good demo of your competence.

[@BudgetBassHead]

I appreciate that

[@puresesh7985]

I don't get why there is a little bit of hate in these comments. no need for all that

[@blueberrywilbur315]

Because that’s what people do now hate and snivel about everything 🤦‍♂️

[@timcouch5005]

Bro your production is unmatched.

[@BudgetBassHead]

@@timcouch5005 thank you

[@timcouch5005]

I'm serious dude if I could afford a Patreon you'd be the only KZbinr I ever even thought about doing it for. ​@@BudgetBassHead

[@quevicular]

Finally they are making double/triple speaker surrounds for extra excursion. Took them long enough

[@Houtsy]

Alpine has done it for 10+ years

[@seancrutcher525]

Probably helps them rebound better than one big surround but I'm no expert so idk if that's the right terminology or not but makes sense to me lol

[@NoiseOrdinance704]

Ur camera is astounding lol crisp video

[@BudgetBassHead]

Thanks for noticing 👍

[@triadjoker96942]

Nice! I was expecting more from those 5 subs.. I watched Puresesh vid, did 145+ 26hz with single sub. Great Job BB keep them vid coming love to see what that setup can do.

[@evilinside5984]

@triadjoker96942- These subwoofers don't have much X Max, or total piston area. These 6.5"s, with this surround, only have about 10 to 12 sq. In of cone area, per subwoofer. Not to mention, Puresesh is a top tier enclosure designer/builder, and SPL competitor.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Thanks! Will do!

[@drgreenthumb2339]

Ima playing with 3 of these subs right now. Thanks for the info.

[@joshuakemp1439]

Great video as always. Glad to see you getting back to the videos.

[@teeceehonda]

Aye bro since your rear seat fold down put the passenger rear seat up. I found out it help increase the score and act like a loading wall. Well at least in my car it does

[@keithmagnifico4164]

Facts.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Thanks for the tip

[@laneyrinehart-eb1pn]

i got a 133.4 @42 hz with the same meter in my car from a pair of bdc4-6.5s at 800 wrms. you got some good numbers here.

[@ActiveHoodrat]

Feels like I’m listening Paul pierce talking about subwoofers 🔊

[@egm092478]

Glad to see a video from you brother, for some reason KZbin is not showing me most of my go too channels

[@BudgetBassHead]

Sorry to hear that. The algorithm favors videos you like and 'share' with others. Plus, I recently got hurt and stopped making vids a while; which also effects the algorithm.

[@QuintinLourens]

Hi, which app you using?

[@xtraflo]

I had 2 Competition JL audio 6.5's mounted Face Up in my Armrest with Faceplates in my Porsche. It Slammmed!! Being that close to your head - sounded like a pair of 15s!!

[@BudgetBassHead]

I bet!

[@johnwilburn1652]

I love this idea but do these and other 6 1/2 inch speakers perform with the backseats up?

[@mikeberndt181]

I should mention I got that with to Jo 10w3-v3s d4s in a custom ported box ported into the cabin up on the ear glass & speakers sealed off from the trunk in a 2002 dodge stratus. Prob hit 145 with a soundstream reference 700sx amp at 2ohms bridged. The cars shape played a big deal in that

[@ToneTone-o9i]

Curious on the difference if the box was facing the opposite way?

[@BudgetBassHead]

Typically you gain a few dbs

[@RodofAllTrades]

Those Sundowns have a very unique design! The enclosure design could definitely be beneficial for a particular application! Imagine it under the bed of an RV!! Awesome video!

[@BudgetBassHead]

Totally agree!

[@loss4wrds791]

I want you to put one in a folded horn box and see what it does. Also interested in seeing these subs in your other enclosures. Thanks for your hard work we appreciate it

[@BudgetBassHead]

Cool idea

[@subdynoman]

Let's go! What tuning and for what application?

[@MatthewGuynn-ki8rn]

You do a good job on your test . Ive watched alot of your vids . Although they not always be 100% accurate test .. you always try to get controlled results 🤝👍 good job

[@shawnsanderson3695]

Id really like to get a lay out or cut sheet for a t-line for the 8" ct sounds meso. Or even one for two of them.

[@TheAceTroubleshooter]

How does this setup compare to the Tymphany STW350?

[@BudgetBassHead]

The Tymphany is unmatched. 👍 But it also takes up my whole trunk

[@TheAceTroubleshooter]

@@BudgetBassHead Do you still have it by chance?

[@theone148]

Hell yeah.. great video. This is the shit that get me in trouble from doing all the stuff I am "suppose" to be doing. I will be outside doing all kinda tests. hahahah... 45 years old and just got back into car stereo.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Love it 👍

[@premierBASS]

How do these compare to the Meso 6.5? Sound wise

[@BudgetBassHead]

The sound signature of these are cleaner and the power handling of the U-65 are better. The Meso 65 sounds good, as well, however, they will bottom out if pushed TOO hard. Which is understandable, but the U-65 seems to want more.

[@premierBASS]

@@BudgetBassHead interesting how do the lows sound ? I have two meso 6.5s and I love how low they can get. Currently being pushed by a D4S MM1000

[@ruthlesslegion1016]

​@@premierBASSU6.5 get low.. surprised me. I love the smoothness and crisp punchy lows.

[@BudgetBassHead]

@@premierBASS it's all in the tuning of your enclosure. These have a bit more mechanical travel so you may be able to get use of them from a larger enclosure. However you must keep the port area smaller

[@premierBASS]

@@BudgetBassHead thank you 🙏🏾

[@scamchan]

bass hit right I had to look around to see if something was behind me.

[@JSonJSonJSonJSonJSon]

Do it bump doe?

[@BudgetBassHead]

I think Big D Wiz will approve 😄

[@there_is_nothing_here]

serious question, is rising impedance bad?

[@b-luv339]

How are these for mid bass?

[@Xplicit_fpv]

Love it! Great channel!

[@peterp.4391]

Any update on your box designs being available for purchase?

[@BudgetBassHead]

Send me an email. I'm currently finishing up a few designs.

[@XplaneDre]

I’m a little confused on which series to get when it comes to the 6.5s is the X series much better than the U series? Or are they just built to do something different?

[@BudgetBassHead]

The U-Series are definitely superior, in my opinion. Taller, more power handling, more mechanical throw and custom surround.

[@turn-n-burn1421]

Not so fast on all the other carriers. FedEx has been known on occasion to wimp out. Not always the drivers, sometimes the managers. Well, now that I think about it, our post office has a day every now and then too, but UPS absolutely never misses a delivery if it makes it to the final hub.

[@BassFace1776]

Great video very well made. I just picked up a pair of SA6.5s to play with. What about firing the subs rearwards? Should easily get to a 140db.

[@BudgetBassHead]

I agree

[@ruthlesslegion1016]

I ordered one last week too replace a toro 6.5.. wow these mini beasts are no joke.. very surprised how loud and low these dig, might just get another one.

[@BudgetBassHead]

I was equally surprised!

[@izzzzzz6]

I like this format. The subs are small but when they are all in a row like that they almost form one very long sub. A bit like how a 6x9 works the 9" length produces more bass and the 6" width produces more mid. This long array can simulate the longer length for deeper frequency reproduction. Back in the day we had some larger version of 6x9's like 8x10" or something. Unfortunately I can't remember what they were exactly as it was around 30 years ago or more. Thanks for the links but I was a bit shocked by the price of the SMD power meter. Going to have to find a cheaper way. Seen something on Ali ex but it's probably not going to do the same job. I've been driving 24x 1" compression drivers wired down to 1.3Ohms per ch on a Powersoft 4 chan 3kw stable to 2 ohms. I'm guessing the impedance rise is what saves me but they are only 1" motors so not that hard to drive. Do these Sundown amps have a clip signal led? I mean you really need clipping lamps up front by the head unit. Then you would know exactly where the subs start to clip depending on their temperature etc.

[@SmalltimR]

Love your videos man!

[@keithmagnifico4164]

That setup with a smart 3 would be perfect for daily use.

[@milesbachelor8747]

The DD 1506 is not a budget sub, but I understand it has no equal.

[@Subxsounds]

Dd just lowered the price of the 1506💪

[@jamesvarner758]

Quality build and video. Don't think I'll be building though. Had three sundown E series 10s, jp8 wired to .67 ohm, clamping 747, burping 140db. While this was in a 85 escort, the box size was similar, and cost comparison is way different.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Thanks for sharing

[@RyanBassForLife]

For small subwoofers there very nice.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Yes they are!

[@JYXA50K]

Is the woffer 500 hz or is it at breakdown?

[@valorantorion1588]

Got a single u 6.5 in a t line doing a 139.9 at 29hz

[@jvsyoutube3298]

these should use bouble baffles. One that is 8" stock, then a second one with spacers outside of the mechanical limits that are maybe 10 or 12 inches. Would be interesting to se and hear anyway. Like a koaxial, but for subwoofer freq. Give me money now please :)

[@livinglifeboosted1642]

Good shit man amazing output for such tiny little subwoofers 🔊

[@BudgetBassHead]

My thoughts exactly!

[@briankleinschmidt3664]

There's a lot of vibration. They don't seem to kick like they should. It could be too many speakers. It makes the sound waves cross each other and causes interference. I'd go with a 12 inch" subwoofer and two of those six inchers.

[@BudgetBassHead]

The is a space saver. Though internal volume could be greater. Modifying the box for future video.

[@silverback8183]

Why use 8s? Why not 10s,12s and so on? Is there a sound quality benefit over larger subs? Designing my system now ( but I'm a car audio noob) and would really like to know.

[@BudgetBassHead]

These subwoofers are 6.5 inch. It's a stealth box\low profile.

[@bellajay713]

Which 6.5's are better? Sundown u or ct sounds meso?

[@BudgetBassHead]

Sundown; without a doubt. They produce bass better, with more control and power handling.

[@mattsnider5904]

Imagine how many of those you could put in a vehicle/ wall?! Hit hard i bet!

[@hermanpedersen2449]

Do you have any soundeading? I hate hear cars sound more of metal shakes then bas

[@BudgetBassHead]

Only the trunk area

[@Macross223]

I wanna see you go in on another PR setup! About to build another one with PRs on top and subs downfiring. Will hollar when its done!

[@BudgetBassHead]

Editing, as we speak.

[@Macross223]

@@BudgetBassHead oooooh snap

[@whitmorestrains]

Is it built to be able to turn it around? I wonder what the results would be.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Yes it's removable

[@juanmaza8575]

What app is used to generate the tones?

[@BudgetBassHead]

Forgot the name, but its in the Google app store.

[@rubenavila8012]

How you feel about break in process

[@BudgetBassHead]

I never break in my subs

[@evilinside5984]

@BudgetBassHead- Great video. A 141.3 Db, 49 Hz, on just under 1,700 watts, is very good for these tiny subwoofers. Will you plese measure the width of 1 of these subwoofers, 1st from edge of cone to edge of cone= 0 of the surround. Second, measure 1/2 surround, to the other sides, half surround, please? Im curious, how small the actual cone area really is. Thank you.

[@BudgetBassHead]

In future vid, for sure

[@bomboclaaatmang]

Really nice Box Design , But i dont get it , why you dont test this with a wired connection , since bluetooth compresses a lot , also when listening music wired ... hits waay harder !

[@AlbertVerge]

10:07, I think 0/2 AWG = 145A~165A

[@PhiMobileSounds]

🔥🔥🔥Intro!!!

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

two 12s has significantly more cone area than five 6.5s. they would play louder and be in a smaller box as well. also, because two 12s has so much more cone area and total displacement (as long as the subs are decent), you will have less distortion and be more efficient doing it without overheating the coils. only use these subs if you cant physically fit a larger sub. even then, consider a custom design with a larger sub anyways. these subs are a VERY niche product.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Very niche... maybe 10 years ago. Pickup trucks have been utilizing 6 inch subs for years. I use them to save 80% of my trunk space.

[@subdynoman]

Nice opinion, have any data to back it up? I would love to tell everyone that their sundown is just a niche product. I can say you told me bud whada ya say?

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

@@subdynoman i mean.....try using math my guy. look up the info for yourself and get educated. im fresh out of spoons to feed you information. the info is out there. its just a simple equation.

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

@@BudgetBassHead a single 15 with 19mm xmax in a ported box would use less trunk space, have more total cone area, and go deeper than 5 6.5s at 19mm xmax. theyre a good product but it doesnt make sense to use a ton of then, especially in the truck of a car. just use a larger speaker instead so youre not pounding away outside of the speakers 70% BL limit of xmax, so much less distortion.

[@subdynoman]

@OxBlitzkriegxO you have all that knowledge about a woofer but have no idea what the difference is when the acoustic impedance is matched to the listening space. Displacement and motor force are huge in making calculations, but if the power is not transferred from point to point or if there is cancelation, all that power goes to heat. Check out PURSESH and let me know what you think

[@jamesmurphy713]

Sweet vid.. intro.

[@steveclark9934]

I remember seeing the Prototype videos for the big sub of this w surround❤😊

[@BudgetBassHead]

Yep I can't wait for the larger ones to come to market

[@basementbanter366]

great video, impressive subs

[@BudgetBassHead]

Much appreciated!

[@Chase_Aintloud]

Put the better in the far corner near door and open the oposite door

[@jonathongaleano2893]

Love ur content!

[@Cupandnoodles]

@m.b. enclosures what your thoughts on this ? He using them taramps too

[@imawesomeyourenot]

Lol MB is a complete joke. His opinions are worthless.

[@subdynoman]

​@@imawesomeyourenotdaym I know MB ain't got everything perfect but dudes done alot

[@scamchan]

How it hit with some deep dubstep?

[@BudgetBassHead]

... and you know it!

[@peterplague]

Ever consider building a T-Line Enclosure utilizing Only (1) 6" Sub? The result may surprise you.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Check my videos from my home page. I have a 'Horn' with a single 6inch

[@scottbe1]

Have you ever tried different subs/port orientations? Subs forward and port to the side seem to do well in most trunks, and subs and port back would be next. I'm convinced you are robbing yourself of DBs with all the cancellations going on with subs forward and port back.

[@CajunReaper95]

Imo the surround looks like a highly modified and refined PA subwoofer accordion surround.

[@BudgetBassHead]

It is... which was first thought, exactly.

[@CajunReaper95]

@@BudgetBassHeadI thought so!

[@Raymo2u]

For how much the subs cost and what you paid. You could of got the EVL12 pack from skar

[@subdynoman]

And how would this perform better?

[@Raymo2u]

@@subdynoman You'd get better numbers for less money, it would take up about the same volume (albeit in a different shape)

[@BudgetBassHead]

This enclosure is for space saving. Low profile.

[@potatorigs2155]

Crazy that you did 140db with your 8 inch horn box with way less power .

[@BudgetBassHead]

Horn enclosures are amazing

[@Tekatogokuta]

you recommend 2 or 4?

[@BudgetBassHead]

Please clarify... of what?

[@Tekatogokuta]

@@BudgetBassHead im working to buy some of this but im unsure if i should go with 2 or 4 subs i have a jetta 03 that i will be installing them but im hesitant to pick i dont know if 2 will be ok im also thinking of tunning at 30? any thoughts thanks

[@6mmBRA]

Latest Apple software has a glitch causing Bluetooth loose connectivity. Apple acknowledges this problem.

[@prestonsserious]

I use the same app frequency generator

[@Alkatross]

This reminds me of the crazy 8s build by 6dogs. He was the first basshead youtuber i ever followed back in the day. Are you familiar with 6dogs?

[@BudgetBassHead]

Never heard of'em. I'll look into it

[@helicoptermanagement1969]

Why did you go with 5 speakers

[@BudgetBassHead]

@@helicoptermanagement1969 the surface area equal to 115 inch subwoofer.

[@Woon_Shen_Hang]

Датчик давления лежит на полу. Вы на стекло его крепите и замеры сделайте.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Мне удобнее поставить его на пол. Присоски часто трудно снять.

[@subdynoman]

gaaad your vids fire me up in a good way, bet that set up had a nice personality 👌 I really want a pair of these for fun in a mini series 6th very long 10 Hz horn. But, there is only 1 spot for that for me in this build and im not sure if im sold on these yet. Either way these subs have impressed me (PURSESH) and so do your HQ vids boss. Much thanks 🔊🙉

[@BudgetBassHead]

Glad you like them!

[@subdynoman]

​@BudgetBassHead big dawg do you know if these are comparable to the SDX6.5 I fried mine but they pit out 135db @ 24hz for a good minute, wish I got it on vid but I got to excited 😊

[@jlabovejr]

I spent $1000 on 2 DD712F’s and Big Jeff just gave me stickers…

[@carlsandrews266]

good video i got 2 sets of 10's from BJ. but that's over 800 dollars worth of 6.5 inch woofers not really budget IMO. a set of 10's is cheaper and yield higher spl. sa v2's would be a better choice. unless you have very limited space. five 6.5's need the pretty much the same air space as the 10's that being said big j has cheaper prices on sundown than sundown and my woofers came direct from sundown thru jeff for 40 dollars less.

[@BudgetBassHead]

But I saved 80% of my trunk space.

[@carlsandrews266]

@@BudgetBassHead i get it the advantage is it's not tall. those would be great in a truck and they play wayyy lower than i thought a 6.5 could. i have watched a number of you video's. for what it's worth i think you do a good job. keep it up

[@1sickfiestast618]

Makes you want an army of little killer subs.

[@BudgetBassHead]

😁

[@LexmixHD]

Not bad!!!

[@FrankStPeter]

Man, the Ozzy down under was doing way better. With 2 you should call him up and get some of that magic wood That he got.😂

[@BudgetBassHead]

You funny. 😄

[@FrankStPeter]

@@BudgetBassHead But why am I funny? He's doing it is claiming that the rest of the Americans are stupid.

[@puresesh7985]

@@FrankStPeter i never said americans are stupid mannnnnnnnn

[@puresesh7985]

@@BudgetBassHead yeah very funny who is that guy? right!

[@FrankStPeter]

@@puresesh7985 Was the last comment directed at me?Who am I

[@motorembrasa5576]

Topem topem topem

[@Zakami]

salve CPX que trabalho foda em

[@bunnatang2081]

cut off 15hz. to improve sound quality and save some battery power.

[@BudgetBassHead]

Could you clarify 'cut-off'?

[@bunnatang]

crossover high-pass filter (HPF)

[@basementbanter366]

how big is the magnet? Yes.