Sunnah vs Hadith (Case Study: Hands in Salah) | Mufti Abu Layth

Mufti Abu Layth discusses the issue of placing the hands in salah and how it is a case study for analysing hadith and sunnah.

[@nomadlife2464]

Purpose of Salah is to remember Allah. Iblees distracted people away from Allah with petty fiqhi arguments.

[@jayalfredbaldwin9906]

Yes but ritualistic Salah is not part of that.

[@nomadlife2464]

@@jayalfredbaldwin9906 the word as-Salah in conjunction with Aqim implies ritual.

[@jayalfredbaldwin9906]

@@nomadlife2464 has a few meanings perhaps people need to put away their upbringing and customs and look deep into the quran

[@nomadlife2464]

@@jayalfredbaldwin9906 I think you're mistaking indefinite Salah with Aqim as-Salah which is definite. When Aqim is added, it certainly becomes a ritual. As-Salah literally means bowing and prostrating.

[@nazrulbhuiyan2294]

Allah is not bothered about where you put your hands in salah , but what good deeds you do after finishing the salah .

[@Topagendadolla]

Then Allah isn’t worried if you pray if you are a good person.

[@coldtype64]

@@Topagendadollastraw man argument. It’s clear that you have to pray.

[@bubbabubba6322]

My aqida is athari (i disagree with MAL) but I am MALIKI and pray sadl in salafi masjid and I educate the people.

[@haroon420]

The very last point is the most important and warrants a whole lecture series. These issues have been discussed for the last 1400 years but between scholars. The plebs were given basic guidance and got on with their uncomplicated lives. They had heard of sahih Bukhari et all but never had access to them. Then with the advent of cheaper books (and later internet) and with petro-dollars, people who have been untrained in Islamic sciences have purchased scholarly works such as sahih Bukhari, read a few Hadith and started going hay wire. Now that the genie is out of the bottle, any ‘scholar’ who is still clinging to the old paradigm is basically just clinging on to his power and privilege. They need to understand the gig is up and they need to be honest with fellow Muslims and try to remap Islamic academia that is fit for the 21st century. This isn’t the eight century anymore. Islam is universal and for all time. Therefore it needs to move with the times.

[@AftabAlam-vl4iz]

Very informative content, we need a detailed video on Sunnah & Hadith, the same has been talked by Javed Ahmed Ghamidi but people hardly digest. Thanks a lot🙏🙏🙏

[@futurecrunk]

Can you recommend a lecture on this topic by Mr. Ghamidi?

[@shahzaibishaque]

@@futurecrunk In almost every lecture Ghamidi Sb explains how Islam relies on Quran and the Sunnah, both of which had been transmitted through a tawatur

[@FBI-fm6dm]

@@futurecrunk kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKXQcqqqmNN8gqM

[@ashkehlan4743]

Javed Ahmed Ghamdi has explained what is Sunnah and Hadith’s in detail his work is exceptional, we should be great full to Ghamdi saib God bless

[@markeedeep]

Finally, the question I was seeking an answer for! So Sunnah is generally custom tradition preceding hadith, but also deriving from [the written corpus of] hadith. The scholars are the ones who decide (or work out) existing Sunnah, but hadith is purely written accounts of purportedly narrated historical records from the life of the prophet, passed down from generations of companions.

[@DarioHaruni]

It is reported that on rainy days the Prophet would get stains of mud in his forehead after prostration. Had he prayed with hands at his chest of below the navel, he would get stains on his clothes as well, because during prostration he would've placed the hands in mud as well. The narration doesn't say that, it just speaks about a stain in the forehead. That is an indication that he didn't fold his hands in Salah.

[@Me-hu9br]

Hands always touch the ground during prostration.

[@DarioHaruni]

@@Me-hu9br Of course.

[@saleemdurrani1]

Might be situational?

[@DarioHaruni]

​@@saleemdurrani1 The Qur'an doesn't mention any hands anywhere so it doesn't matter really. Personally I don't care about this topic and I don't think it's relevant to God either. But for the sake of the argument, there's good historical evidence that the hand folding was borrowed later on from the Jewish tradition. One would say "well they are descendants of the Prophets, so they do that correctly. Well there were plenty of Jews in Medina, and the people of Medina prayed with their hands on the sides (maybe to distinguish themselves from the Jews).

[@Lloydy786]

he would have got mud stains on his knees but this isn't mentioned either

[@abdar-rahman6965]

*But all stories of so called sunnah sprouts from any so called Hadith. Therefore, Sunnah is also hadith. And who did invent this term of "Sunnah of Rasool"? In whole Quran, no any term "Sunnah of Rasool" appears. What you have said in this video is baseless*

[@rumannahami3745]

One more evident example is practice of reciting quran loudly in some rakat and quitely in some,i think there is no Hadith and it is practice of whole ummah and there is no khilaf on this issue This is the evident example of Sunnah

[@shahrukhgilani5246]

Can someone share the narration about Sayyidna Ali ع praying Sadl??? JazakAllah khayr

[@mok8591]

An really good insight into this matter and yet it doesn’t really matter whether we fold the arms or not.

[@worldpeace4823]

Just pray don’t worry where u put ur hands, just put ur hands where it comfortable for u other than that don’t worry about it. Not sure why some Muslims make a big of deal. The important thing is to submit ur self to Allah.

[@laylaali5977]

I personally don’t believe it matters when you praying where you put your hands on.

[@claudiotavares9580]

Hey bro, what do you think about Al Hallaj? May the peace, mercy and blessings of God be with you.

[@fahadjan3942]

Mufti plz make a video on takfeeq that does hanafi follow maliki school in some things just like praying etc?

[@rabbi619]

Actually there is a hadith that proves sadl it is in Abu dawood 730.

[@shahzaibishaque]

Yes. And Salafis quote this Hadith to prove Rafa-ul-Yadain and yet ignore the Sadl

[@rabbi619]

@@shahzaibishaque Why do they always focus on the sunnah when people dont even pray the fard.

[@rabbi619]

@Kaiser Cheemhelm II Hadith means historical reports that are found in books of the imams you know like what our prophet did everyday. Now i dont follow hadith these are all lies actually.

[@rabbi619]

@Kaiser Cheemhelm II It is a proof that malikis use for sadl if you search the hadith in google and read you will understand.

[@NadeenaMorgan]

Sunan Abi Dawud 730 In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 340 English translation : Book 2, Hadith 729 Doesn't say Rasulullah s.a.w put his beloved arms by his beloved side. It's states he s.a.w. raised his beloved arms to shoulder position for takbir etc etc

[@Deep2Islam]

Mufti what about this hadith? إنا معشر الأنبياء أمرنا بتعجيل فطرنا وتأخير سحورنا وأن نضع أيماننا على شمائلنا في الصلاة. Also watch this i think it is the sunnah of all prophets to put the right hand on left: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpipcmiLpNOkr7c kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpKriHSJrrKdrck

[@bubbabubba6322]

MUFTI, PLEASE MAKE YOUR SERIES ON BENI UMAYYA.

[@Evildentistsfromhell]

As a Shia you are correct. Hands by the side

[@jaleel42]

Jews pray with hands folded ,. Also a good one i just heard from a nasbi scholar,. Is that Omar when he did his good bidah Ie taraweeh,. He had ubay ibn kaab lead it the first time,. 😮

[@WaqasAli-ct7ly]

​@@jaleel42 jews do sujood as well, and the nasibi kharijis also pray with their hands down

[@Abd_Allah_1445]

@@jaleel42 Interesting, you accept from us the part where Umar calls it Bid'ah while you Jahils don't understand that even a Computer is an innovation, in arabic Bid'ah. It was not a Shar'ih Bid'ah since we have reports and even Ayat about our Prophet ‎ﷺ praying in the night, in congregation. Also why don't you take these Hadith, but you take the one about Umar. If you want to pick and choose, like you do it with your sources, stay away from ours. You people of Bid'ah are really well described by that saying of the scholars, Ahl as Sunnah sees Quran and the Sunnah and believes in it. Ahlul Bid'ah has its belief and then looks for that in Quran and Sunnah. I bet you all don't try to believe in the Quran and Sunnah, but rather make the Quran subject to your beliefs, and the Sunnah you reject except that which fits your desire to some extent.

[@jaleel42]

@@Abd_Allah_1445 bro there is like 50 innovations in religion that Omar instated,. Your entire Hadith collection,. Brings down the level of our prophet(saws) & his family to elevate characters who really did nothing for the religion,. Funny you say stay away from our Hadith,. Cuz when I was Sunni someone told me basically the same thing,. “A lot of brothers lose their faith after reading Hadith” interesting

[@Abd_Allah_1445]

@@jaleel42 Like have you ever read Al Kafie, or the table of contents?

[@fahadjan3942]

@mufti abu layth plz make a video on talfeeq

[@HamzaSayyid]

I honestly don't think Allah Subhanahu Wa ta'ala really cares where are hands are... he just cares that we pray 🙏..... way to many video on KZbin for us as Muslims about where to put our hands, our feet, how to sit.... I can only imagine Allah looking down laughing at us

[@abusadi4742]

❎❎ Easy points to end useless debates people are engaging just "for feeling superior" to other Muslims One's belief about Muawiya is not as important as how firm you have to be about the honour and status of Imam Ali. Muawiya has no status to debate with Imam Ali. Ali(Ra) status is confirmed and cannot change. A lower ranking Sahabi may not remain as a Sahabi if he is disobedient. The status of high ranking Sahabah(Ra),wives of prophet(Ra) and ahli bait cannot change. They can't have grudges and love for religious fasaad. Aisha(Ra) can have her opinion regarding Imam Ali's decisions. All of which is not the business of general people. These topics can't be understood by common people. If a person wants to be guided one should respect those who were the most guided.

[@shirazlodhi836]

mashallah iam a united muslim i love my shias and sunnis

[@rumannahami3745]

Mufti sahb we need detailed dicussion on this issue

[@zainsarfraz4040]

نعم، لا، و بینھما تطیر الارواح

[@mdkle8809]

Thanks - May Allah bless u and us a lot

[@caleg100hari]

Three kind of information that i been told about this sadl issue is: First, imam malik usually fold his hand but later after hr see and learn the people of madina then he changed it to saddl. Secondly, the reason why there is a hadits in muwatta mentioned about folding hands is because imam malik want to shared that he know the hadits exist, yet he still do sadl as follow ing the sunnah that do by people of madina. Third, ibnu arabi said, on the early year of dakwah of rasulullah, he and his companion do shalah with folding hand like a common thing when slave face the King. But later on changed, because the teaching of sadl give elevated meaning that the king that the slave face is not ordinary, not human King. I would be happy if i make a false information about this and someone corrected me.

[@MuftiAbuLayth]

in that case consider yourself corrected 😊 none of the above. Ws 🙌🏻❤

[@caleg100hari]

@@MuftiAbuLayth well, thank you for have a time to correct me, Sir. 🙂👌

[@sk-Muhammadi]

کیا حال اے ٹھیک ہو نہ مفتی صاحب الباکستانی 😅

[@shahrukhgilani5246]

5:36 Shaykh Hamza's argument is very much valid There is a narration in Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba that people used to pray with their hand clasped due to fear of government persecution

[@amirsamanzare]

Could you please post the narration here? I would like to read it.

[@imamxx._]

You are lying!

[@imamxx._]

@@amirsamanzare He is lying brother, it's not written anywhere in Musannaf Abi Shaybah about Goverment Pressure!

[@toolsnthings5539]

You need to start teaching Mufi

[@sufiahmed100]

As Salaam Alaakum. The Maliki figh is very easy. And simple, most West Africa, it's in been Hijacked in my opinion, you hardly see any African passing on this information.

[@TehDwelleR]

Personally, there's nothing 'SAREEH' in the hadith collections saying to perofmr sadl in prayer but we have heard from so and so in narrations but what is clear in the narrations is that you cross your hands be it under chest, navel or slightly above. I was praying recently and it dawned upon me, Imagine the creator of the entire universe is in front of you, you can literally see ALLAH we would stand so straight, looking straight ahead arms straight at Allah. You fold your arms in front of a police officer or anyone it's seen as confidence and an act of being cocky. This is just me exercising my own ijithad. Yes, our intent is good when it comes to folding the arms or straight but when we fold, we are loose, not 100% upright, swaying sometimes, and when you do sadl, you don't just let them hang or sway. We know deep down that if Allah revealed himself infront of us and allowed us to literally see. We wound stand straight like arrows, no other thought would cross, we would put our heart and soul and converse with Allah, with eyes fully open and focused. Arms folded or not, lets focus on improving salah than being fiqi nerds on minor things.

[@abudujana13]

JAZAKALLAH KHAIR

[@ventorismo]

Im from jakarta,indonesia. Im not Shia or Sunni.. islam is one for Me. I do Sadl because Allah swt said : “Quumu liLlaahi Qoonitiyyn”. Quumu/Qyaaman/Standing/Berdiri. As we all know..standing means Standing right? Even lil boy knows where’s both hands potition on Stand position. Thats why i Sadl.

[@caraudioreviewchannel2493]

Do you remember me from school and masjid? How's your brother Jamil?

[@MuftiAbuLayth]

Wow, 😊🙌🏻 msg me on insta, send me a msg there reminding me plz, much love 💯❤

[@caraudioreviewchannel2493]

@@MuftiAbuLayth ok inshallah.

[@umarsyed7538]

Adnan Rashid must watch this. He's so caught up with the hands.

[@saeedjaanz]

But, Jalal ud Din Siyoti has declared Hasan Al basri, and Ibrahim Nakh'ai a mudalis in his book Isma al Mudaliseen. How are you depending on these names? And i have seen your videos, u also rely on Jalal Ud Din Siyoti.

[@jaleel42]

He was a nasibi that first invented the myth of four righteous caliphs ,.. either you was a Shia or someone who cursed Ali (as) ibn taymiyya and his students had to create a common myth to counter all the different Shia branches,. So they went out of their way to reinvent history,. People cursed Ali (as) from the pulpit for 70 years ,. Nasa’i the sunni Hadith scholar got torn limb from limb in the mosque of Damascus for narrating merits or Ali(as) and when he narrated the only merit of mu’awiya,. They got mad ,. Cuz his merit was his belly would never be full,. So they killed him,. You can call me a Shia liar ,. But all this stuff is easily found on Wikipedia even,.

[@ibragimovkbh1630]

Excellent exploration Elhamdulillah. For many years I was looking for an explanation like this. Yazakal llahu kheyra

[@nmmedia3230]

ALLIHAMUDU LILLAH , thx for you deep explanation

[@EbrimaOBah]

MMUUAAH!!! It can't be any better. I would like you to change the background behind you. It make you look like an animation!!! I would prefer a book shelve or something that symbolise knowledge.

[@saadtirmizi96]

May ALLAH bless you always

[@thomasbuxton2648]

Would be great mufti if you touched on how the understanding of Sunnah/hadith plays out in the Shaf’i and hanbali schools, since you touched upon the Maliki /Hanafi approach.

[@j0kez708]

Even in maliki school there is a disagreement. There are very strong reports of Imam Malik being in favour of folding hands and not dangling them. But a few of his students happen to say otherwise.

[@jassimarsingh6505]

see the thing is in his muwatta he writes that he has included hadiths which he doesnt agree with, he included them to show the masses he knew what he was talking about, for ex. folding the hands hadith in his muwatta

[@fulaan1]

WRONG. Malik’s position is Sadl. His most learned and most upright students transmit this. Those whom the mathhab rely on. Stop the misinformation

[@hexa1062]

There is a hadith abt taraweeh btw

[@NadeenaMorgan]

It only mentions night prayers, not the word "terawih" Abu Salamah reported: He asked Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, “How was the night prayer of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, in Ramadan?” Aisha said, “He would not pray more than eleven cycles in Ramadan or other times. He would pray four cycles, but do not ask about their beauty or length. Then, he would pray four cycles, but do not ask about their beauty or length. Then, he would pray three cycles. I asked: O Messenger of Allah, do you sleep before witr prayer? The Prophet said: O Aisha, my eyes sleep but my heart does not sleep.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1909, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 738 Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim

[@robaado5211]

Bukhari is the game 🎮 change

[@jayalfredbaldwin9906]

There is no Salah in the Qur'an as in prays the root word for Salah means to adhere or remember God.. traditional Islam is not true. Shocking but true Listen to Quranic centric channel he explains it all.

[@TeymurKhan571]

So you’re just gonna dismiss the way sayyiduna Mohammad SAW’s ways of doing salat?

[@jayalfredbaldwin9906]

If you wants links I can send u

[@TeymurKhan571]

@@jayalfredbaldwin9906 I know who’s Yusuf from Quran centric. I asked a question. Are you gonna avoid the way the prophet SAW recomended us to do salat?

[@jayalfredbaldwin9906]

The Salah never felt right to begin with for me 5 times a day. The Qur'an never states how or when to do the Salah it's only though hadith we learn to his besides let me ask you a question..if you grew up somewhere in the world where there was no internet and someone gave u a Qur'an only and u was not aware of what hadiths were and u has no Muslim community around u...what then? U would read Qur'an but Ramadan hajj and Salah you would no idea how to do it or how many rakhs or what to recite..as Qur'an doesn't say... surely God would not condem you to hell..so recite Qur'an as in reading is enough for salvation. Put away all what u learned and were told..and learn Arabic and u will see all translations are inaccurate for understanding Qur'an as for the scholars and mufti's u see on TV today there all properly aware or question within themselves the traditional narrative but afraid to come out and state it! After all they get paid to say what they do it's a job..also their culture and upbringing has shaped their views and practices.. the world u see around is not what it appears.

[@TeymurKhan571]

@@jayalfredbaldwin9906 Thats why the community exists… Look dude. Are you gonna reject how Mohammad did salat and how he recommended us to do salat? This has been preserved in the Muwatta of Imam malik and many many other Hadith literature. Are you gonna take Yusuf’s advice or Mohammad SAW’s advice?