Sunset in Perth 24th March 2019 - a few days after the Equinox.

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Sunset in December.
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[@Wolfie6020]

Compare the position of the Sun in June kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3ipi62Prd53sKc Then in December. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ_FgKd5hriYqLc

[@Alysm-Aviation]

Oh no, reality strikes again, the FE is dead

[@FrenchCrow]

Looks like the tilted spinning globe model works pretty well.

[@larryscott3982]

“On the flat earth you would never see the sun setting in this direction.” On FE you never see the sun set.

[@mittelwelle_531_khz]

@@larryscott3982 _"…On FE you never see the sun set."_ -Was it Confucius- [EDIT: kudos going to "osci08" - see his response further down] It was *Sun Tzu who said in "The Art Of War"* that you have to _"learn to think like your enemy to defeat him."_ In my experience the biggest problem flat earthers have in this respect is to discern the three *completely different* reasons why we might not be able to "see" (or photograph) something in a distance [EDIT: I'm talking of the ability to SEE something at all, not to recognize DETAIL, which then would require to also include angular resolution]. (a) Diffusion (by dust, fog, etc) (b) Too low intensity (fewer photons as whatever sensor is used is able to detect or reliable discern from noise) (c) Visual obstruction (by a wall, building, a mountain … - or, drum roll - the curve of the earth!) Then they come up with the very general explanation _"but we can only se so far"_ which seemingly builds on everyday experience and from there continue to act like "Mr. Know-It-All". While "seeing" physically is *no active process that extends into a distance* I'm willing to grant they just mean "light DECAYS after having gone some distance", which is a sloppy way of merging (a) and (b) above. But then, instead of attributing the sunset *correctly* to (c) they "explain" it with their already confused mix-up of (1) and (2). When you try to school them with respect to all three, (a), (b), and (c) I found their attention span is too short to listen patiently and try to understand. Instead they jump in with "observations" they (or somebody they point to) has made, e.g. that "Chicago skyline" stuff or the NIR observations published by "JTolan Media". That forces you to deviate to the question to which degree light really goes straight or rather slightly curved and whether their NIR idol has the abability to identify landmarks correctly (see BTSG's most recent video). The more impertinent ones then jump in with assuming you talk of gravitational lensing which has nothing at all to do with refraction by earth's atmosphere. But their goal isn't to really UNDERSTAND their misconceptions but to pull your once clear-cut line of arguments into murky waters so they can claim victory by having "successfully refuted established science" and can call themselves "woke" while trumpeting their nonsense so their followers, who then also feel "special" because of their "open mind" and "thinking outside of the box".

[@larryscott3982]

Mittelwelle 531 kHz You give FE club members too much credit. FE is just verbal graffiti and educational vandalism. The FE gurus: “the revenue, the whole revenue, and nothing but the revenue.” Truth and honesty is not part of their diatribe. We all know they describe phenomena in ways that are not observed. eg; eclipses, they describe things that do not happen: ships hulls and zooming, sun circling over a disc. etc. Antarctica is lie. Gravity is fake. Space is fake. They ignore physics. They use vocabulary that they don’t comprehend and construct non-sequiturs ad nauseam. They insult the academics that brought them the technology that they use. It’s their brand of entertainment. They’re clowns without makeup. We all flat isn’t even a defendable hypothesis. Dead on the whiteboard.

[@Dan-wn2lg]

Never mind the direction, you would never see the sun set on a flat earth.

[@Wolfie6020]

+Dan 1 Very true.

[@jerry2357]

You could, if the sun rotated above and below the plane of the Earth. But in that case there would be no time zones, the sun would set at exactly the same time everywhere.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@jerry2357 which would be never.

[@jeremylawrence6041]

With the correct shape dome and the sun being 'outside' it could appear to set due to the way the light would bend through the dome. I only say this because I've seen a small scale model do this with a snow globe of some sorts. I also don't think it could be tracked with only one axis of rotation so I still doubt it's possibility

[@izzymorgan2461]

@@jeremylawrence6041, I saw snow white and the seven dwarfs standing on my lawn this morning as well!

[@vitesseextreme]

The earth is obviously not flat, look at how the street slopes down to the beach.

[@ashscott6068]

Fool! That's an optical illusion! The road is flat! The sea is the hill, because the horizon is rising to eye level!

[@philterry3293]

Obviously CGI.

[@Stigstigster]

@@philterry3293 CGI is fake. There's no such thing. Now, holographic projection on the other hand...

[@barryon8706]

It's a composite image made up of pixels so doesn't count

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@my3dviews]

The water must get really hot where the sun drops into it. ☀🌅 😁

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@Herschel1738]

The steam causes the dis-refraction that only makes it LOOK like it's setting below the horizon

[@SpottedSharks]

I predict that 3 months from now it will set a further 23 degrees toward the north. I know, that's crazy talk.

[@Wolfie6020]

+SpottedSharks. I predict you are right.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3ipi62Prd53sKc

[@tjwiets6691]

I think it should actually be more than 23 degrees in Perth. As you move from equator towards the Arctic / Antarctic circles, the variation in the direction of the azimuth of sunrise/set increases. Where I am, near Houston (30 N) the sunrise / set variation is approx +/- 28 degrees from due east/west.

[@stuartmcconnachie]

No crazy talk (at least if you’re a FEer) would be it setting further SOUTH - for example like it was a few months ago.

[@mendelde]

I'm predicting 27° further north (or rather, timeanddate dot com is)

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@snegelstenen]

I have the feeling that the FE community has become a bit humbled after the Behind the Curve movie. As if many of them actually realized that it is them who are being deceived in this particular matter, not the general public.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

the "smarter" ones have, so we're stuck with the bottom of the Barrel

[@Orlor]

Not to mention the Logan Paul incident... Or the Globebusters gyro folly... Or any picture taken by Nathan Oakly...

[@steverushforth7009]

@@Orlor Not to mention Nathan Oakley, unable to give a definition of "diffraction", one of his buzzwords when challenged by conspiracy catz. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHrKdqSGpM-LpJY

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@massimookissed1023]

*_Knodel_* in Hebrew means lying fuckwit.

[@spheroidialmaster1910]

How can a direct observation, verifiable by anyone, get a thumbs down? Any of you few who have should seriously think hard about your actual motivation for doing so. If you accept that light travels in generally straight lines, no observations of the Sun, Moon or stars makes sense in any flat plane conception.

[@mendelde]

Flat Earthers would've been lost at sea before GPS wothout celestial navigation

[@billsmith5960]

@@mendelde - Thus when they take their cruise, they will never be seen again. I suggest becoming friends of them and then offer to watch their house while they are gone. You can then create and estate sale and unload all of their belongings. It's not like they will never come back.

[@doovybro9000]

Simply because they dont want to believe anything that doesnt agree with them. For people who claim to only believe what their eyes see they seem to be very selective when it comes to visible reality when it doesnt match up with their belief system.

[@M1sterE321]

Because they are offended by reality

[@no-replies]

I still struggle to believe people think the Earth is flat It's obviously a cube

[@jerry3790]

Ah yes, the famous debunking Road.

[@brucetucker4847]

They should rename it that!

[@noblegrizzlybear5475]

@@brucetucker4847 Someone should start a petition.

[@Alyssa-tu2kx]

Jerry Rupprecht hasn't debunked shit

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@Alyssa-tu2kx it has debunked every claim made by flatties about the sun, so yes it has.

[@LiveLaughLotad]

Alyssa Just saying “you’re wrong” does not actually prove someone wrong. You need to give proof, or else your claim is completely empty. How do you think a formal debate would go if one of the sides decided not to do any research or make any points and instead they just said “your wrong”? I can tell you it wouldn’t go well.

[@kellyd6195]

Thank you for sending the sun back north of the equator. Us Northerners have been missing it. 😜

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@ffggddss]

Amen to that!! (And we promise to give it back in 6 months.) Fred

[@kellyd6195]

ffggddss I’m not making that promise. I may hold onto it for a year or two. 😜lol

[@ffggddss]

@@kellyd6195 I won't complain ;-) But Wolfie and his hemisphere-mates might... especially those who, unlike him, are more or less stuck south of the Tropic of Capricorn. Fred

[@EdwinvandenAkker]

At the end you can clearly see the sun lighting up the clouds from bellow. Also that's not possible on a flat earth...

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@exjwflatearther6554]

Not if your below the clouds in question.

[@Metalwolf001]

@@exjwflatearther6554 but if the sun is 3600 miles up, how can it ever be below the clouds?

[@exjwflatearther6554]

if you are below the clouds, learn to read,, not the sun.

[@Metalwolf001]

@@exjwflatearther6554 regardless, no amount of perspective or reflection will cause the sun to illuminate the clouds from below on a flat Earth. Otherwise it would occur all day. The sun is not local.

[@99_ahc]

Dude forget how insanely right you are about our very round earth for a sec, regardless of anything else, that view is beautiful. Like holy shit what a sight.

[@Wolfie6020]

+Aidan Harrington. It is really beautiful on the west Coast. This photo was taken in Broome. The colours are not edited at all. This is exactly what it looked like. Just incredible. drive.google.com/file/d/1J1VfcJ7ey0_-2W-xmohfswqNkqq056cv/view?usp=sharing

[@Stigstigster]

@@Wolfie6020 Beautiful picture and I note the clouds being impossibly lit from below. ;-)

[@71Hasler]

A proof that went totally unnoticed in this video. There was a ship on the "horizon" and the sun set BEHIND IT and disappeared yet we could still see that ship. There goes another FE theory.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

After "debating" these guys for about 5 years now, I've noticed that they tend to go into "silent mode" around the equinoxes. I wonder why? Maybe it's because they don't even have a GUESS as to how this could possibly work on their frisbee model?

[@razvanvaleanu3971]

I noticed that too. We can call it Flattard Equinox Hibernation

[@simpsimpson5175]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqHdloeYgJanqMk

[@backwoodsjunkie08]

Lol I think you killed flat out hero!!!! He hasn't posted in 2 months!! I think he overdosed

[@lintysoup]

He literally posted an hour ago lmao he must have say your comment

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@lintysoup damn, the trash almost took itself out

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

He must have been setting up the $100,000 payment to Wolfie all that time, right?

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@kmcleod78]

@@lintysoup - Damn it, way to bring down the mood. On the up side we can all go to his channel to THUMBS DOWN. It became a hobby for a while

[@Alysm-Aviation]

AAAAND Reality kills the FE once again, who would have EVER thought...

[@woodyuk9717]

That pesky reality, eh? "Use your own eyes", the Flerfers say. Er OK. Sunset. Job done.

[@woodyuk9717]

@The Divine Plane Are you joking? If not, OK; continue to wallow in wilful ignorance. Or, you know, learn what 'science' is. Long road, though.

[@drunktomcruise8224]

@The Divine Plane no proof of curvature??? Dude... Just watch a ship sail away, which part of the ship starts to disappear first??? The bottom... Why is that? Use your fucking brain

[@sintheticsounds1686]

The Divine Plane hmm interesting, you know thats very interesting. *Manically starts shiftin around* very interesting. *laughs like the gigs up an takes a sip from a cup* yea we really cant let this get out , it would be bad... really really bad .

[@M1sterE321]

@The Divine Plane LOL your own staunch flat earthers Bob and Jeran from the newly disgraced and defunct Globebusters proved rotation and curvature, respectively. Bob proved rotation with a gyroscope.

[@CrazyPets0]

1 dislike already - flat earthers hate sunset so much...

[@CatsMeowPaw]

The sun is always setting on the Flat Earth theory

[@blakeswensson9735]

They hate reality quite a lot, keeps getting in the way of their flat earth fantasy.

[@paulriggs42]

Why is there half a sun ? A semi circle ? The flerfs tell us the sun just shoots off into the distance and gets smaller ? And that it never goes below the horizon ? 🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣

[@outpostone-oh-five8529]

yeah, but perspective and..well reasons... thats why

[@Stigstigster]

Nathan Oakley will tell you it's diffraction or angle of attack or some such shite.

[@dirtybrownwt6008]

It’s called “flerspective”. Perspective but only when flat earthers deem it applicable, oh and also it has nothing to do with perspective

[@billsmith5960]

It's just a natural defect of the sun. Happens once per day. Maybe it'll get a firmware update.

[@dirtybrownwt6008]

Bill Smith I actually got a new answer from a flat earther. He said it was caused by “magnification”. He told me to take a magnifying glass and look at an object, then back up and the object won’t get smaller but disappear from the bottom up

[@Alysm-Aviation]

I love how very many flatties say you can only see ~3miles yet we see the sun which even on the FE is over 3000 miles away...

[@CrazyPets0]

It's a kind of magic

[@Wolfie6020]

+Alysm. They just make things up as they go and damn the inconsistencies. LOL.

[@handsolo1209]

@@CrazyPets0 - Surely Brian May is a NASA shill!

[@stanislavblinov8454]

@@handsolo1209 Roger Taylor.

[@handsolo1209]

@@stanislavblinov8454 - Yes, Duran Duran were good.

[@gazza6262]

Hey I live in Perth , down under of course lol !! That's a terrific view !!!

[@Bhoddisatva]

Is it true Australians have bat feet to hang onto the ground so you don't fall off the Flat Earth?

[@steverushforth7009]

Do you know flat earth Perth? AKA the " lizard of OZ"

[@Jeff-Real-Jeff]

@@Bhoddisatva What I find hilarious about a statement or question like that, is (and I do not know if you are a flattie or not) which way is "down"? Of course, "down" is towards the center of the Earth. But flatties seem to think that "down" is like looking at a globe suspended in air and "down" is all the same direction towards the floor it is over. Which is why flatties say Australians are "upside down", when in reality, we Aussies are perfectly standing upright in relation to the gravitational putt of the Earth, as is every single person on this planet.

[@razeezar]

@@Bhoddisatva We mostly have suction cup shoe soles, actually. Also, our cars have velcro wheels, which is why there is a 'no driving past 10pm' curfew due to all the noise.

[@fromnorway643]

Anyone understanding basic geometry can figure out that if the earth really was flat, with the sun circling 3000 miles above it, the sun's heading from Perth at this time should be 324° rather than close to 270°, and it should be 16° above the horizon and _never_ set!

[@Wolfie6020]

+FromNorway. Exactly and this is the problem. Flat Earthers can't understand basic geometry.

[@mikep9604]

FromNorway - It happens almost every time that FEs just ignore and reject the geometry of the sun's path, when someone explains it. They are completely incompetent in geometry.

[@grahvis]

@@mikep9604 They are completely incompetent at everything, except perhaps, making shit up.

HEEEYYY!!! You've got the P900, just zoom that sun back! It should work if the earth was flat... Kinda...

[@mendelde]

Tommy Grønvold turn the sunlight back on with your camera, winter darkness banished thanks to Nikon

[@sky173]

Well, well, well... Look at that. The size of the sun didn't change, and it didn't appear to go further and further away until it was no longer seen. It actually appeared to go below a line called the horizon. How could all that happen on a flat Earth?

[@HansLanda50]

The sun is actually getting smaller as it goes away. It looks flat on the bottom because of atmosphericflerspectiverefraction.

[@billsmith5960]

It's actually, supercatmosphericflerspectiverefractionexpialidocious

[@Luke-qs1lv]

I always love how you ask Google what day it is to prevent FEers of accusing you of lying

[@fredoverflow]

Couldn't he simply ask "Okay Google, what is the shape of the earth?" ;)

[@clemstevenson]

The globe Earth model was based upon repeatedly verifiable evidence in the first place, rather than on some kind of conspiracy. And conspiracies, such as those mooted by Mark Sargent, are only based upon things such as Hollywood movies. However, a classic example of a conspiracy theory with absolutely no basis in truth was the UK TV production 'Alternative 3' from 1977. It should be noted that summer 1976 in the UK had been uncommonly hot, as well as protracted. This fact was used to substantiate the assertion that the world was coming to an end. 'Alternative 3' made the claim that scientists were being ferried off to the moon & Mars, because the authorities were trying to save some of humanity from extinction.

[@kristinfrostlazerbeams]

😂

[@clemstevenson]

@@kristinfrostlazerbeams :-)

[@davidstenton5181]

I had the book "Alternative 3". What a load of tosh it was. Even had a "disclaimer" on the back cover stating that the powers that be insisted it be classed as "speculation" to hide the "truth". :D

[@clemstevenson]

@@davidstenton5181 Apparently, the switchboards were jammed by people phoning in, as a number of viewers had failed to notice that it was dated 'April 1st 1977'. It was, however, not shown until a later date than that. On his own, the bogus astronaut should have given the game away, as he was a Canadian Actor known for playing American roles. But there were other actors, who should have been recognised.

[@CatsMeowPaw]

You even have a P900 to confirm it. Brilliant.

[@michaelwhite6498]

P900 are old hat and not to be relied upon anymore as they prove the globe everytime, The new P1000 will prove flat earth from now on until they too go wrong and prove the globe, by which time they'll have discovered a new camera which proves flat. They may even make thier own flat earth camera in which anything round shows up as flat.

[@Wrkumlin]

michael white Would that be the bird brain lens?

[@michaelwhite6498]

@@Wrkumlin Probably what those in your local call it as it has different names around the globe. I believe pooket word salad calls it the perspective lens, while oakley calls it the angle of refraction attack without contained pressure lens.

[@sunshine6891]

Wowzers! Thank you Wolfie..I love the sunrise and sunsets :) Thank you !

[@lmoral222]

Great job once again Wolfie - providing *clear visual evidence* like you always do. Concise, thorough, detailed, and *real, not drawings*

[@steverushforth7009]

Ah but did you take into account Jeran's "PAD", personal atmospheric delusion.

[@ShawnHufford]

Ahhhh, memories :) so glad you still live up to my lyrics :) was worried you were gonna miss this equinox

[@Wolfie6020]

+Shawn Hufford. I was 50/50 on running another contest but Flatties are always too scared to play. It would have been nice to be here a few days ago but unfortunately I could not make it then.

[@whereswa11y]

A trip down -Memory Lane- Avonmore Tec yeah?

[@Wolfie6020]

@@whereswa11y Yeah it was nice to be here again. I had forgotten what clear blue sky looked like.

[@ShawnHufford]

@@Wolfie6020 yeah, contests at this point are kind of moot. You've more than demonstrates they flee in terror at actually putting their belief to the test. Still though, wouldn't be the Wolfie channel if you didn't do a video on princess way twice a year

[@jormungandr9251]

Shawn Hufford Hey, Shawn, different topic. Can you recommend a good resource for learning how the Himawari photos are produced? I've heard both that they're published more or less as is and that there's a ton of post processing that adds background, color, etc. I thought I'd ask the resident expert before I went claiming something wrong. I'm not fussed either way, just looking for the facts. Thanks!

[@brendarua01]

Vernal equinox at Stonehenge a few years ago provided a similar experience. I went back a week later and the sun had very clearly moved. It's very cool you could record this. Thanks!

[@davewolfie364]

Love your work, mate! 👍🏼

[@frogsinpants]

"On a flat earth, you would never see the sun setting in this direction." Your sentence contains three words more than necessary.

[@NetAndyCz]

And it is untrue, you could have flat Earth with sunset like that rather easily, the thing is that the sunset would not much reality at other days or locations.

[@FriendsforFriendsUK]

@@NetAndyCz The sun can never set while it is thousands of.miles above a flat earth.

[@NetAndyCz]

@@FriendsforFriendsUK No, not if it is above, but if you ever look at the Moon, then you will notice that its phases are all about its relative position to the Sun, during new moon (and especially the sun eclipse), it is exactly where the sun is, during full moon it is opposite side of the Earth than the Sun, so it is quite obvious the sun has to go below.

[@FriendsforFriendsUK]

@@NetAndyCz Obvious to rational people. To Flerfs this simply makes it obvious that the moon is not lit by the sun.

[@arctic_haze]

Nice sunset. The direction makes no sense on a flat earth. Even perspective and buoyancy cannot explain the fact that all latitudes have sunset due west during the equinoxes.

[@kellyd6195]

I just realized something the other day. I posted on Facebook the information of when the ISS (space station) was going to be visible. I had both family and friends (some living about 100km north and about 100km south of me), wanting to know the details of the time, directions and angle of elevations. It dawned on me that the ISS was about 1 degree of difference between me and the people south and north of me (about 2-3 degrees between the most northern and southern of the people around me). Having such a small angle between people who were so far apart, the ISS would have to be VERY far away. Sadly, this is something so simple that even FEers could even do and figure out. Hmmmm...if only there was a way to communicate to a large number of people and organize an experiment to measure the distance (or size) to the ISS (or other celestial objects).

[@wolfganglaun2319]

It has been done. Here is one YT video: watch?v=2zejiHaRhI4 which I've seen and found OK. Searching for "measuring distance of ISS" will find more results. You can also brush the rust from your math and look up the data for an ISS passage, best from locations on the same meridian, and try to make the elevations match, assuming (a) a flat, (b) a spherical Earth. Note that the locations would have to be along a sector of a meridian not more than 4,000 km apart because from the ISS the horizon is at a distance of ~2,200 km.

[@CarnivorousPlantsAndGardening]

BEAUTIFUL... And it's round

[@healthent]

You can see me drive passed at the bottom the hill lol

[@Recon777x]

Back in Perth eh? Maybe someday I'll give you a ride from the airport. Would be fun. ^_^

[@Wolfie6020]

+Recon.777 That would be cool. There is at least one ATC guy who watches this channel. He asked me a few months ago when he heard my voice on the radio. "Is that wolfie" I said "could be"

[@Recon777x]

@@Wolfie6020 Ha. Nice! Well, I was once in IT but have semi-retired to driving Uber and also the odd private job. These FE channels have been a minor source of entertainment for some time now. Especially since being an American living in Australia has given me some good astronomical perspective. Keep up the good work.

[@konradkopec]

That's an interesting sunset! I never seen the light pointing away from the horizon. Great video!

[@waedi73]

That was such a beautiful video ! Thank you very much ! The long and westing road la la laaa ! Greetings to all you poor aussie people that must walk upside down 😘

[@mururoa7024]

I'd like to hear the professional opinion of a psychiatrist about the mind of a globe denier.

[@jeramiahjohnson7967]

Muru Roa. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKHPqWp5hJmDqZI

[@michaelwhite6498]

I finally persuaded my psychiatrist neighbour to watch a video and asked her opinion. All I got was she'd like to talk with them to try and find out why they think the way they do.

[@awatt]

Narcissist with low self esteem from a recent paper. Will look for it.....

[@alancrabb]

Psychologist, rather than psychiatrist : www.kent.ac.uk/psychology/people/douglask/

[@Wrkumlin]

Muru Roa It’s almost the same as religious belief. And, in many case, comes from it. The need to belong to a special group. The need to feel special - they ‘know’ something the rest of us don’t. And the one they can’t change, the lack of analytical ability (believe it or not, low IQ) whereby they aren’t able to comprehend all of the things that must be confirmed to prove flat or globe. How many times have we heard “I can’t see the curve, so it’s flat.” Or “I can’t feel it move so it isn’t moving.”? They think this is all they need to ‘prove’. The problem with this is that there are dozens of things to do with the observable sun and moon that don’t match the flat earth model, but they can’t see it. You can also read up on the Dunning Kruger Effect. It comes from the idea that those with less knowledge think they know just about everything they need to know vs. those with lots of knowledge realize they know very little of what there is to know. It’s not just one thing driving these people. Enjoy your journey into the mind of a flat earther. It’s fascinating and a bit scary. They talk about us being duped and misled when it’s really them being deceived by their own, and they can’t see it.

[@FernandoRodriguez-pj5uh]

You would never see the sun set on a FE period!!!

[@Beembatz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWOtk2yHe7mUh68

[@Beembatz]

its moving away not setting..

[@FernandoRodriguez-pj5uh]

David Dc according to FE nonsense. In real life it does set and disappear behind the horizon. If it moved away there would be a large reduction in angular size large meaning it would be reduced to about a third of its actual size. None of this is visible. I have been taking photos of the sun for 20 years. Measured it’s angular size many times in different positions. Same goes for the Moon.

[@Beembatz]

@@FernandoRodriguez-pj5uh the sun is small and local..you can't see it changing in size due to perspective

[@FernandoRodriguez-pj5uh]

David Dc you people use perspective to justify farting after lunch!! If the sun is local and small just moving 90 degrees overhead will make it change sizes noticeable to the naked eye. No perspective involved. It’s like saying that a person walking away from you will always look the same size due to perspective. Doesn’t even make sense!!!

[@480pilot]

Ya know Wolfie, I don't care about debunk right now. That's just gorgeous!!😁

[@whereswa11y]

Good use of the Pelican case as a phone speaker amplifier. Works great.

[@billsmith5960]

It's your PAD (Personal Atmospheric Dome). The flat earth community conformed this by using an animation. So, that just proves that the earth is flat. Next week, how to use CGI and photoshop to prove flat earth proof.

[@cassio2778]

Ironically the flat earth community couldn't come up with this on their own, they stole it form Walter Bislin. walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model He states right up front "Before you think I am a Flat Earther please read the Conclusion and the Purpose of the Model."

[@billsmith5960]

@@cassio2778 - Blah Blah Blah I can't hear you! BTW: Did you meet my wife? Morgan Fairchild.

[@cassio2778]

@@billsmith5960 Here's an example of what I'm talking about. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6PLdX1mfa6Ne6M When I posted a comment with a link to Walter's site, it was deleted.

[@DucNguyen-kr1rr]

Hey Global Earthers, if you see any flatheads comment, direct them to me. I have been on mark sargent channel and I have challenges/bet mark sargent, eric dubay, paul on the plane, d. marble, nathanoakly, some other flatheads, $50,000(each) to go to the South Pole from Rio Grande(yes, I'll be travel with them) so far none of them reply. I wonder why ! If you see any flatheads comment please direct them to me.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

they will just call you another fake... I've been asking them for a functional FE based map and they already do that.

[@DucNguyen-kr1rr]

@@Alysm-Aviation, actually I send them a picture of a cashier check,I'm ready to go anytime. I have been trolling them for about a month. eric dubay might live in Thailand, but he's not out my reach.

[@DucNguyen-kr1rr]

@@Alysm-Aviation, if you believe in flat earth, then there is no South Pole. I have $50,000 to said there is a South Pole.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@DucNguyen-kr1rr no matter what evidence you provide, flatties will always scream fake

[@DucNguyen-kr1rr]

@@Alysm-Aviation, anytime you want to go! Make sure to bring $50,000 with you, a cashier check will do. www.polar-quest.com/trips/antarctica/fly-to-the-south-pole-20192020

[@AtheosAtheos]

Thanks Wolfie.

[@Mandelbrot_Set]

How does perspective cause the Sun to disappear from the bottom up? Wouldn't the whole thing disappear at once? At what distance does this perspective cause things to disappear like that? Is there any scientific paper that describes how perspective prevents us from seeing the bottom half of the Sun when it sets?

[@michaelwhite6498]

That's pooket word salads version of why things disappear bottom first, while gnat oakley says it's due to defraction. Conspiracy cats has a nice vid on the gnat being silent because he doesn't know what defraction is. A good laugh.

[@Quadrenaro]

Stop deleting all the comments that are smart and prove flat-earth! /s

[@1sewalker]

Good job. Very cool how the light goes from direct to indirect and upward.

[@FrenchCrow]

_"indirect and upward"_ What do you mean?

[@1sewalker]

@@FrenchCrow Hello. What is mean is as the earth rotates and the sun goes below the horizon you are no longer have the sunlight hitting you directly in the face but you can see the sunlight from below the horizon. Like a lot of wonderful sunsets, I have viewed where the sun is far below the horizon but the clouds in the distance between the horizon and my location are lit from the bottom.

[@FrenchCrow]

@@1sewalker I get it now, thanks. I observe that very often and it makes me picture how obvious it is we are on a globe. Recently here I had a sunset with a stuning turquoise blue sky, and after the sun had disappeared I could see contrails and clouds illuminated in a beautiful salmon pink colour.

[@1sewalker]

@@FrenchCrow I know. I am 63 years old and didn't even know the flat earth was a thing until I was watching all of the moon hoax stuff and ended up down the rabbit hole to flat earth. Honestly, I am still trying to understand who truly believes the earth is flat and who is fleecing the believers.

[@psybitcoin]

So beautiful

[@rcarrot2955]

beautiful sunset!

[@DGV13DV]

This place/street is just beautiful

[@DelBoy1967]

I never get tired if that view, enjoy your stay in Perth mate 👍

[@Wolfie6020]

+DelBoy 1967. Thanks and it is nice to be back. I haven't seen blue sky like this for months.

[@DelBoy1967]

@@Wolfie6020 As you know the weather in Perth can be a lottery but this years March equinox was quite good. Too bad you didn't get to Perth last week as we just had the Annual Astrofest at Curtin Uni, I didn't attend this year due to other commitments.

[@Wolfie6020]

@@DelBoy1967 Oh I would love to visit that.

[@annalemma5688]

Hey Wolfie, what's that cool little mount/tripod you're using? Great channel btw!

[@Wolfie6020]

+Anna Lemma. Hi Anna, thanks, This is a skywatcher AZ-GTI mount. I love it. skywatcheraustralia.com.au/product/mini-az-gti-mount/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGSrnn-Jn8dsq5I

[@newolku]

Looks amazing

[@kevinmerida6391]

So we're at the intersection of Princes Street and Avonmore Terrace on Sunday, March 24, 2019: www.suncalc.org/#/-32.0064,115.754,17/2019.03.24/18:18/1/0 And yes, the Sun sets well a little bit north of the due west direction. How can this work on a flat Earth? With rays of light that bend according to the mood of the flatties ? walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model&state=--6~32-1115-11.0302013-1113.55705-189.9-278.429167-9-7

[@WadesUnderworld]

Beautiful sunset mate.👍

[@Wolfie6020]

+Wade's Underworld Thanks Wade, Perth is lovely place. In the last few weeks I have been in Colorado and Montreal with snow and Ice, then Sydney with rain and clouds most days. It was a real shock to land in Perth this morning with perfect blue skies. I had almost forgotten what that looks like.

[@WadesUnderworld]

Wolfie6020 awesome. They are some pretty big climate differences you’d be experiencing. It’s nice seeing that sun go back to the northern hemisphere though. It was a hot summer.

[@rogerhendy8340]

@Wolfie, do you get caught over in Melbourne very often? I'd like to buy you a Beveridge of your choice.

[@stavlin007]

@@Wolfie6020 Hey Wolfe, excellent channel! Beautiful video. I was just in Montreal last week too. Chilly to say the least but I live on the east coast of Canada on the countries smallest province, Prince Edward Island, so I'm used to cold. But the sun is coming our way now and we'll have beautiful weather just like in your vid. Peace, travel safe and keep up the great work!

[@generalralph6291]

Yes but what is the angle of attack?

[@federico339]

The angle between the chord of an aircraft's wing and the direction of the air hitting the wing

[@awatt]

Pin thus case the angle of attack is three birds....

[@malangerber6160]

Question; Will it be even possible to **see** the sun setting on a flat earth? According to my very primitive calculations the closest the sun would get to the surface of a flat earth from any vantage point would be around 8 degrees [measured from the 'ice wall' (!!)]. But how can the sun be seen as setting when it is about 8 degrees **above** the observer!?

[@mikep9604]

Exactly. It's not possible to see the sunset or sunrise on a flat earth. Flat earthers can't understand this geometry.

[@malangerber6160]

Another question that puzzles me is; since ice floats on top of water, how would an 'ice wall' be able to keep the waters of our oceans from escaping from a flat earth?

[@tharpstead]

Wait it sank into the sea bottom first ???? Like ships do ????? How strange!

[@toonzy2000]

Beautiful view

[@heyarno]

Flat earth can't even explain the horizon. I observed the horizon over the sea many days and tested the flat earth claims of how it works. The viewing distance varies with weather, but it never goes beyond the horizon unless I climb up a cliff. Regarding the sun: During the winter I can see the sun make a very small arch in the south. This would also not work on a flat earth.

[@kmcleod78]

Wait, so the sun did NOT get smaller and smaller until you couldn't see it anymore? It just disappeared at the same size bottom first? But how, how can that be Wolfie? Another great and easy to watch video. Sunsets are amazing.

[@ashscott6068]

When I was 17 or 18, I got a burger in Missy Moos not too far from there. They had crayons and let people draw pics while they waited for their food. Then they decorated the place with those pics. Mine was a drawing of a mutilated cow in a bun and the caption "God made animals out of meat. That's why they're so nice to eat". Not sure exactly where it was, cus I wasn't driving. I think it was in Freemantle. I wonder if my pic is still there. This was in like 2012 or 2013, so I dunno if it would be. They took soooo long to make my burger. My dead cow was extremely graphic. I even had time to colour in the entrails, and shade the splintered ribs. Good times

[@billsmith5960]

Wait! You are using a P900? That can only be used for flat earth research.

[@jormungandr9251]

Bill Smith Good Gawd man you're right! It invalidates everything Wolfie's done! 😉

[@billsmith5960]

@@jormungandr9251 - To make it legit, he needs to tape a toilet paper roll on it and then he will see the perflective.

[@seriouslynot6420]

Another great sunset over the curve. ⚽️

[@A1Cook]

Nice video of the sun moving away from your stationary position in earth

[@LiveLaughLotad]

Alton Cook The whole thing of this video was the direction in which the sun was setting, not the sunset itself. So, as almost every argument I’ve found here, this is a red herring (www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/150/Red-Herring)

[@MetallicAAlabamA]

Has anyone ever taken a nose dive straight into the ocean, sown that road in a vehicle lol. Cause believe me if my crazy neighborhood had a street like that there would be numerous cars going off the end lol.

[@ashscott6068]

The sun fell into the sea! No wonder it went dark!

[@monster289]

The sunset where I live near Seattle, WA was due West also on the Equinox. Of course, this cannot be demonstrated on any flat earth model.

[@momobabo50]

wow

[@theadventuresofflatman9494]

Looked like it set into the horizon, the 90 degree which all will flee.

[@ublatesti7307]

awesome view

[@janvandergaag]

Australia must be the bane of globe deniers, what with the Sun setting due West, the country's shape and position on a 'flat Earth map', and the South Celestial Pole. Keep it up Wolfie!

[@lylewilshire]

Makes me wonder how there can possibly be flat earthers living in the southern hemisphere with reality right in front of them! Unbelievable.....

[@janvandergaag]

@@lylewilshire Right, I was wondering the same. Although I've read somewhere there actually are Australian globe deniers ...

[@janvandergaag]

@@finitekosmos Lol! Do all those things to verify the spherical Earth? Naah, too much work for a globe denier. They prefer to do their own 'research' (= watching other flerfer videos). But hey, at least one of them did a proper experiment and got ... the 15 degrees you mentioned. (Psst, this is strictly confidential.)

[@finitekosmos]

@@janvandergaag Not to worry! Their secret is safe with me! Just don't tell the planet to do something like, rotate. It would give it all away or something!

[@finitekosmos]

@@janvandergaag It's pretty amazing really, you can verify the roundness of the globe by doing complex things like, looking out your window at the sunset, observing the different constellations in the sky, or how the moon is upside down relative to observations in the northern hemisphere, or how Cyclones in the southern hemisphere rotate in a different direction than Hurricanes in the north, or how you can buy direct flights to Santiago from Sydney, there was even a direct flight from Perth in Western Australia to London.. www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf9#1fe6e533 But of course, people are just imagining such long distance flights aren't they? Despite people arriving in places with a different climate, dialect and culture. Still there's nothing quite like a flat earther's ability to dismiss facts that don't match their expectations. You'd almost think that the world rotated at 15 Degrees an hour or something. :D (Edited for a small clarification!)

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

Good work with simple observations that crush FE. Observations, EQ mounts, cockpit adventures...FE aint got nothing compared to you.

[@samiam2519]

i got a book thing going but i havnt got to any comedy parts yet discord.gg/NkskMFF

[@Ben-ge7yt]

Where is an analog Compass measurement that shows the sun is actually setting in the west? Maps can lie, digital compass also.

[@Cell1969]

You should buy a second house along that street Wolfie :D

[@RonLarhz]

Omg i miss ur informative videos even tho we aren't flatards.

[@crbskier08]

I'm much more upset that there isn't a compass than I should be Like I can know I could just Google the street but.. you know I also would like to see how far off the sun was from dew west and someone's going to say something somewhere about moving street signs

[@Alysm-Aviation]

yeah, but is he gonna move houses as well?

[@lucvador2025]

+ 1 👍 Good work

[@franzusgutlus54]

I have built Walter Bislins Equinox sun dial together with my daughter and got a beautiful straight shadow path at the Equinox. Measured in zurich switzerland. P.S.: I don't work for the government 😂

[@pairadice3186]

Thats a spectacular view!!!!!!! Do you have the privilege of living there???

[@P4551V3]

Oh wow :0

[@pairadice3186]

Not one single flat earther can produce a WORKING model of their flat plain.......not a single one!!!!

[@MrMarkb68]

Disappearing behind Rottnest and the horizon. :)

[@kristinfrostlazerbeams]

Oh no, the sun is sinking into the sea, we're all doomed. Lol

[@brucetucker4847]

Nah, we'll be fine as long as we sacrifice enough virgins and/or captured enemy soldiers.

[@BOBzilla321]

Fuck that's beautiful

[@DucNguyen-kr1rr]

I wish the video zoom in the sun and see the sunset.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

he's done it in other vids

[@NotGoodAtNamingThings]

I always marvel at the downvotes on videos like this one. Only an irrational hated of facts can explain the downvotes.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

I just wanted to say that I appreciate your KZbin name...

[@NotGoodAtNamingThings]

@@JustWasted3HoursHere - Why, thank you!

[@fletcha7777]

It's amazing to me that KZbinr's still to this day don't realize when you edit to cut out the "hey Google" from the videos so they don't mess with the thousands of people watching their videos environment.

[@federico339]

What?

[@Wolfie6020]

@@federico339 I think he means my video activated his Google.

[@Wolfie6020]

+Scott Fletcha. Point taken though Scott, I will do that in future.

[@cuross01]

Dunno, it's only happened to me once before and that video was particularly loud. Maybe it's a Pixel thing, though.

[@Alysm-Aviation]

@@Wolfie6020 noo, leave it, its funny, you keep my partner always freaks out when her phone gets confused (she watches stuff on the phone while I watch YT)

[@karimelbaradie5731]

How do you explain that the light of the sun seems local (it doesn't give light evenly over the whole horizon) which wouldn't be possible if the sun is 150. 000.000 Km away? One can observe this in any place at sunrise and at sunset. I'm looking forward to your explanation.

[@FrenchCrow]

Quite subjective observation.

[@smg717]

The same reason that a light bulb does not light up the ceiling or an edge evenly

[@CrashDy]

The horizon isn't a line going straight left to right. It's a circle. If the sun is in front you the horizon will be the most light up there. And behind you, it won't be light up at all. Everywhere in between will be a gradient.

[@FriendsforFriendsUK]

Karim el Baradie. The light from the sun reaches your eye both directly (so we see the disc of the sun) and indirectly via diffusion ( the blue of the sky). The blue of the sky and the bright glow in the direction of the sun at sunrise all consist of light diffused by the atmosphere. The pattern of diffusion is not even: more light is scattered through small angles: this causes the brightness seen closer to the sun's disc. Less light is scattered through larger angles: this is the glow that seems to be further from the sun's disc. In short: the variations in brightness are not due to distance from the sun but due to the angles of scattering.

[@jackndew2]

I'm having trouble with your statement "the light of the sun seems local", how so? If the the sun was 150,000,000 Km away, what would you expect to see? I really would like to fully understand your question.

[@falsegospel1640]

Flat earther: where's the curvature? Ellipsoid earther: where's the level?

[@CatsMeowPaw]

Are there any atheist Flat Earthers? Pretty much every single one references god or the bible, even if you have to scratch the surface a little.

[@CrazyPets0]

Yes, I found atheist flat earthers

[@NotGoodAtNamingThings]

Yes. The atheist flat Earthers are the "you've been lied to about everything" crowd. I was surprised to discover they existed too. They tend to believe a lot of (mutually contradictory) conspiracy theories.

[@tgstudio85]

@@NotGoodAtNamingThings bullshit im an atheist and i don't believe in flat earth and none conspiracy theory;) I use logic, not faith;)

[@NotGoodAtNamingThings]

@@tgstudio85 - Please read what I wrote one more time. You're an atheist, not an "atheist flat Earther," so what I wrote doesn't apply to you. Atheist flat Earthers do exist, which surprised me initially. I never suggested that all atheists are flat Earthers. I was talking about the "flat Earther" subset of atheists.

[@matchrocket1702]

Flat Earthers have a vivid imagination.

[@silt69]

Sun is flat too

[@svenwagner9852]

nice complete graveyard for the flat earth - not only a coffin

[@joecooksey4331]

2nd...and present.

[@Wolfie6020]

+Joe Cooksey. Always great to see you hear Joe.

[@joecooksey4331]

@@Wolfie6020 It's even better to watch your masterpieces!

[@NetAndyCz]

The Earth is flat, the space-time around it is curved to give it round appearance;)

[@willzy1972]

Can you tell me why we would not see the sun set if the land is flat ?? Another question your flight chart all flight charts and training are all based on a flat earth that does not rotate fact look it up now you used a flat earth tool to debunk flat earth lol distance seems to be measured in straight lines not curved now try your flight chart with a curved globe maths 8 inch per mile squared times distance something like that

[@Alysm-Aviation]

an object that is constantly above you may never be below you. Flight charts are based on a globe, the "manual" you are referring to also makes the *assumptions* that the plane has no moving parts, has constant mass, and that the wind never changes, do you people EVER READ the bloody documents? Also, I suggest you graph 8inch per mile squared, it doesn't give a ball, it is an approximate measurement for short distances... This is getting sad, please actually review your "evidence" before making comments.

[@CrazyPets0]

Curvature calculators is based on a perfect sphere..the Earth is not a perfect sphere.

[@CrazyPets0]

Flight charts and nautical charts are based on globe Earth.. flat map =/= flat earth..

[@CrazyPets0]

You will not see an sunset on a flat Earth because the perspective doesn't work as flat earthers intend...so is not possible.

[@CrazyPets0]

Flat earth tool? What is that? Nothing in this world is based on a flat earth, because there is no a working model for it. AE is just a projection of the globe. AE is made for both poles.. N and s.