Super Attic - Attic Insulation System

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The new Super Attic: Advanced Conversion System -- converts your attic from a vented attic into an unvented attic, while still maintaining a vented roof assembly by installing SilverGlo, graphite-infused insulation boards with a radiant barrier on both sides on the bottom of your roof rafters.
By eliminating energy loss through the attic, this attic insulation and heat reflection system helps you save money and energy, making your entire home more comfortable year round.
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[@briangc1972]

I'm an HVAC contractor in Phoenix. I've been preaching this type of attic upgrade for over 20 years. Home builders won't do it because they want the cheapest final product (which is blown in insulation). The home buyers need to drive the industry to incorporate this in every new home. The cost is minimal compared to the price of the home, but the payback is immediate and offers the higher ROI of ANY investment in your home. Over 30% of every A/C electric bill is wasted money due to hot attics in Phoenix.

[@chief5981]

Brian G C what’s important to look for doing this? R value? Specific type of barrier? Any suggestions

[@larrymaloney877]

The energy savings isn't the best. You've been preaching for 20 years for better attic insulation - I've been preaching for 40 years for better HVAC installers responsible enough to not install mechanical equipment in the attic 0 stupid, stupid, stupid. You might learn to install your equipment responsibility before you weigh in on insulation techniques and products. Master your own trade before you confuse consumers about someone else's trade.

[@TonyWadkins]

I'm sure Larry knows this by now but for others .....You cannot directly measure the surface temperature of low emissivity materials particularly shiny foil faced materials. Usually a piece of black electricians tape will do to measure that temperature. A large part of that 120 degrees he measured on the silver duct was reflected radiant heat from the roof. The actual temperature could be between 80 and 130 degrees depending on whether the A/C was on/off at the time or how long it had been on on/off. And it could have very well been 120 if the unit had been off for a good while allowing the actual temperature of the duct to match the reflected heat from the roof. The point he is making is rock solid though.

[@larrymaloney877]

All good points, but you give the "doctor" too much credit.

[@Tonygarry78]

I've watched 20 videos in the last 2 days about insulating my attic. And have asked several questions to professionals on YT. This is the best tutorial I've seen. It seems to me. After watching so many videos. There is really not a definitive answer . Even pros are somewhat stumped.

[@larrymaloney877]

Insulating these attics is simple technology but hard work, Much more energy-savings can be had at less cost.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

80F in the attic... WOW... that is insane.. !! My attic hits 114F in hot florida summer ... We are going to build a new home in 2019 and we are definitely getting this setup.. !!

[@samysamy2011]

did you build it?

[@CCCC-tq8yo]

Did u

[@larrymaloney877]

The air conditioner is maintaining the 85-degree attic (not 80.) Do you want to cool and heat a huge attic with motors running in it?

[@jimknowles5483]

@@larrymaloney877 Larry, what do recommend?

[@larrymaloney877]

@@jimknowles5483 , notice the video is cut (edited) several times, especially when interviewing the homeowner. Insulation, even poor insulation, installed in less-than-ideal areas usually helps in some way. The rafter foam board lessons the UV heat load on the attic insulation beneath his feet but does not address the actual heat transfer problem from 2nd story-to-attic. Before I spent a small fortune buying what he's hyping, "super attic," I'd put money into creating a monolithic barrier between the second-story ceiling and the attic. If you want to spend more money, the attic rafters can be insulated to be truly" super" with different materials and better workmanship. If your huge attic is 80 degrees in the summertime it's because you are paying to cool it. I don't call hat so super. It's certainly not evidence of a "super attic," just a super wallet. BTY, only a dummy installs HVAC equipment in the attic. We can cover ducts but the rest is sinful! The homeowner might be experiencing the lesser-of-two-evils and paying to cool the attic helps keep his poorly place HVAC equipment alive. An insulation patch job does not fix weak attic insulation and an ill-advised attic HVAC placement.

[@lucnebra10]

your channel is paying off my lame arch technology college sir. thank you

[@thebearclaw0]

Silverglo works good. We use it in crawlspace to insulate the crawlspace for the rooms above

[@larrymoore6640]

Good video that points out an attic insulation problem. What I don't understand is why these videos don't include some information about pricing and availability.

[@larrymaloney877]

Poor video - raises more questions than it answers. And the questions it purports to answer are poorly addressed. This product is over-prices and under-performs - and doesn't solve the problem they claim it's designed to address. Why waste your money?

[@michaelhuynh3444]

All these attics are huge.

[@larrymaloney877]

LOL, and the AC is keeping it at 85 degrees. What a waste of electricity.

[@crcurran]

5:58 to 6:04 timestamp: First at 5:58 you see that insulation in the floor near the eaves may be blocking air flow. We don't see baffles. Then towards the end of the timestamp at 6:01 they're putting up a two-sided radiant barrier with what looks like one-inch-thick insulation between it. No, apparent insulation behind that and baffles to ensure air flow gap. That radiant barrier is not enough R- value. It needs baffles (purchased or DIY) and then insulation behind that then a radiant barrier. Better yet, do baffle, then radiant barrier, then insulation and then radiant barrier again to make the attic conditioned. Make sure it's air sealed as best as possible with reflective tape at each layer. At that point you don't need to seal the attic floor (ceiling of rooms below) to ensure closing the envelope. Finally, replace tape and types on ducting while ensuring its flow is uninterrupted and not bent; gradually changes in direction. Add extra insulation around air intake from outside without impeding airflow. Now that the attic is done, go to work on the lowest levels of the home to seal off and insulate the unconditioned space to conditioned. Ensure the conditioned space has good air flow with outside while avoiding bug and rodent penetrations. Finally work your way up to the middle floors of the home sealing as you go. Insulate the inside door to the garage and consider insulating the garage door itself as a final improvement. (easy to follow DIY KZbin videos on that for ~$100) Setup cheap heat and humidity sensors and monitor them to ensure no excess humdity. Humidity/water leads to trouble like mold. www.buildingscience.com buildingscience.reddit.com

[@hu2481]

5:01 you can't measure the temperature of this reflective duct with a Flir camera. What you are seeing is the infrared reflection from the ceiling.

[@Lughnerson]

No one ever talks about open stairwells that allow hot air to rise to upper floors and cold air to sink to lower floors. I think if stairwells were closed at both ends, homes would feel more comfortable. Any other opinions?

[@chester5010]

What about humidity trapped in the attic? Wouldn't that produce mold?

[@claude77573]

Warm air, being less dense than cool air, rises. Humid air, being less dense than dry air, also rises. So you have the warmest and most humid air at the top of cathedral ceilings and the top point of attics. (The rise of less dense warmer air between floors and between the top floor and attic is known as stack effect, but that’s another ballgame). Converting from an unvented attic to a vented attic does not address humidity at the highest points of the attic. If you live in the Arizona desert or in another low humidity climate, no problem. If you live in humid areas along the Gulf Coast or southern Atlantic seaboard, it’s a big problem. The humidity in an unvented attic can be addressed by a small dehumidifier. The next issue with an unvented attic is stale air. A modest ERV (energy recovery ventilator) could address this. So, in my way of thinking, a more complete solution would be a “semi-conditioned” attic instead of just an unvented attic.

[@CCCC-tq8yo]

2:46 now thats a big clock... Goooo Flavor Flav

[@rict.4938]

Great idea, was able to watch and learn from your videos. Between u and This old house i was able to do this myself. It works......omg

[@tenazrael]

Alright I know your comment is 3 years old, but if you don't mind my asking... what material did you use? How much space did you leave between the plywood for the attic ceiling and the Styrofoam?

[@tmuxor]

Yeah what product did you use

[@larrymaloney877]

@@tmuxor , apparently he's a phony. This is an example of insulating at its worst.

[@adamingram2813]

Where can this insulation board be bought every wants to do spray foam now

[@147gtm]

Another question is how thick the insulated material has to be and whats the best λd value for the insulated material. If i notice correctly it's a graphite EPS but sure we have to know how thick it has to be and and what R value we need to achive in order to have the result that have been descibed above.

[@tumdeax]

4 inch R-20

[@franklempka2159]

How did you get the insulation panels into the attic?

[@vanderumd11]

Cut the drywall

[@MemoryException]

I have a pony wall in Atlanta. Do you know any installers who can do this here or do you sell the Silverglo panels so I could install it myself?

[@tommyewing655]

Are you the same guys that were selling us on that attic foil?

[@josedelmoral7805]

Where i can order this product??

[@anthonyb4090]

I have open cell foam at 6-7 inches on the underside of my roof and my attic is encapsulated. My attic stays a very comfortable temperature year round. Is there any benefit in adding roll or blown insulation to the attic floor? Also, I have an "echo" problem in a couple of rooms with high ceilings. This may be a dumb question, but would the "echo" be reduced if the sheet rock ceiling had insulation on the attic side? Great Videos! Thanks

[@Lughnerson]

No. The echo must dealt with from inside the room, not outside.

[@cindyjohnson5242]

Can you do a double wall construction with of set studs, with a weave of insulation in the gap between the walls/ceiling? Look up double wal construction for sound proofing.

[@johnkozaczok3713]

Will you have problems with snow weight because it's not melting?

[@jeremyfarrugia1]

Will this treatment affect shingle life? Will it void warranty?

[@larrymaloney877]

Notice the "insulated" rafters had the hotter shingles. But generally, the warranty isn't voided.

[@CCCC-tq8yo]

Are these guys getting paid to do the commertials

[@milesaway3422]

Hi guys. Really cool product. If i installed this, but wanted to open the ceiling of a bedroom to have vaulted ceilings up to the attic, could I drywall over these? Would it still keep the house warm/cool?

[@RyanJohnsonD]

Do you have something I can use for my detached, flat roofed garage? it's got vats, and it's not dry walled.

[@freewoodencrosses]

You forgot to mention how much they paid for the install of super attic..

[@BrettMiller2008]

Julius Shipley if that’s true, it would be a good selling point.

[@ToddEOhhh]

Can I still install a whole house fan along with your Attic Insulation System? If so, how does that work? How do you vent the air being pulled out from the lower levels of the house? And, with your system, do I even need a Whole House Fan?

[@larrymaloney877]

No answer. Why?

[@MrItalianfighter1]

It drives me nuts. The ducks in the attic are always quaking. Can't even watch this KZbin video without them interrupting the audio. 😅

[@ronvosick8253]

Why does American homes use black roofing that absorbs sunlight?

[@dabcorn]

Diamond Shamrock made some 'foamed ceramic bead' insulation back in the early 1980's. Claimed a maximum R-value of 70 at just 3" depth, with diminishing efficiency after 3". The SAME ceramic insulation as the Space Shuttle tiles. We installed some in a couple of homes and it seemed to be as per specs. We did a demo for the 'exxon building' in Houston, but they eventually opted for additional exterior low-e glazing. I think one other chemical company made some as well for a couple of years.

[@joehuinker7009]

You have created a hotplate for asphalt roofing.

[@jessegriffin9]

Thank you Sir.

[@al3645]

Vaulted ceilings, no attic. Best insulation option?

[@kwally6151]

I have vaulted ceilings in my family room. There is only a 2 foot gap between the drywall and roofing plywood. I ripped out the drywall to expose the whole thing. I placed 3/4 inch insulated reflective board to truss the touches the roofing plywood. I then installed r30 insulation (to replace the original r24 batts). A lot of work ( still working on it). But i needed to do it. My house wouldn't get colder then 82 degrees!

[@onenikkione]

@@kwally6151 did it work??

[@kwally6151]

Yes it did. My house stays cold in summer and warm in the winter. I live in Florida so it gets very hot and my house can be as cold as it wants to be. Plus i still have my original ac unit which is 21 years old.

[@NOOBKILLER052]

why not just spray foam the attic ceiling?

[@PlanetIscandar]

One thing is sure: Gary Busey explained and applied very well the basics of physics. The only thing however i would like to avoid is the aluminum.

[@christophergruenwald5054]

Spray foam the under side of the roof deck with 4 inches closed cell foam. More if you can afford it, but 4 inches will easily get the job done. Then remove any insulation that is on the attic floor. Your attic will then be a controlled climate. Shingle companies stand behind their warranty with spray foam roof decks.

[@nmjabour]

Christopher Gruenwald are you advocating spray foam over this siliver foam board?

[@larrymaloney877]

What problem do you suppose you are addressing? Heating & cooling the attic adds to the load on the over-worked, attic-installed mechanical system. The is one dumb "solution" for a dumb problem. Two dumbs don't make a bright.

[@CCCC-tq8yo]

No videos in 4 yrs what happened to him

[@gilbertodiaz-castro626]

How would you install this in my house when the only access to the attic is a 20"x20" opening?

[@supercatforever]

make a bigger opening?

[@larrymaloney877]

This is a poor approach to insulating.

[@hannecatton2179]

Doh , make a larger opening !

[@CGphotoOp]

R Value of this over spray foam on 2X4 rafters?

[@aceshigh235]

The foam is about R20 before radiant barrier effect. The difference is the attic is sealed. If you foam the rafters your not sealed so not stopping the stack effect. Also if the roof leaks behind the foam it can easily rot out and when they repair roof you loose insulation on that part. An encapsulated attic still has air flow in the rafters so if you have a leak it can dry naturally and if you need roof repairs your insulation is not damaged in the process.

[@larrymaloney877]

@@aceshigh235 , R-20 is half the needed amount (at twice the price?)

[@larrymaloney877]

How are the ceiling joists (attic) insulated in these two homes?

[@2013TombRaider]

I am guessing r30 faced insulation and plywood on top of that so it’s kinda of a open less messy attic.

[@larrymaloney877]

@@2013TombRaider , no indication of that. Their "solution" is over-priced and fails to insulate the home. It's a poorly thought out attempt at insulating. It would take another video to explore all the fallacies presented here. Selling products and over-priced "solutions" is the game.

[@larrymaloney877]

@@fruitf7064, blown cellulose is superior to blown fiberglass. Even superior cellulose can't provide optimal energy savings and comfort when improperly installed. Knee walls cannot be "loose-filled," treat them like enclosed cavities. You may need to enclose the backside with webbing or another cover so cellulose can be "dense-packed" like the exterior walls. Likewise, any sloped ceilings should be dense-packed. If fiberglass batting is already in the slopes, it might be best to leave it, since it was classified as carcinogenic when installed. Insert a hose over top and seal the slope and the nasty fiberglass with densely-packed cellulose insulation. If this project is a cape cod style home, you have a flat ceiling area behind the kneewall so R-49 is my starting point, possibly more dependant on geographic area. Likewise, the flat ceiling above the slopes gets an equivalent R-49. And any attic access openings should be sealed with R-49, otherwise, it's like having an open window in the attic. Installed correctly, cellulose will never settle in walls. Rodents like to nest in fiberglass, so do bees. Done correctly, you should never need to insulate those areas again.

[@larrymaloney877]

@@fruitf7064 , simple question-I'll ask again, since you presume to know cellulose faults, "do you have any CONCERNS about fiberglass?" I think that's a simple yes or no. (Or hide, if that's your style.)

[@stevepailet8258]

To bad more people have little to no idea of Passive house concepts

[@jcon6115]

What is the average cost of this product and how long does it take for payback?

[@mythumbsupgettingdeleted]

wow...40 degree temp difference between the two attics.....that's incredible...

[@larrymaloney877]

Not really. The devil is in the details. Unwittingly, the poor homeowners have been tricked into air conditioning their huge attic. Could the concept be any dumber?

[@aarondetmer946]

@@larrymaloney877 not exactly. it depends on what insulation value their attic base had verse the insulation value of the new roof line. we do this work all the time especially in commercial bldgs, and i perform the energy calcs for it. its not as simple as what you say.

[@aarondetmer946]

@@larrymaloney877 but i will admit, the process they are showing here is not a normal one. typically its insulation (spray foam) to the underside of the roof or under the roof membrane. i cant speak to the efficiency of this hybrid vented/insulated underside decking process.

[@larrymaloney877]

@@aarondetmer946 Never seen an "attic base" adequately insulated until after I re-insulated. They re-insulated for a reason. There's no good reason to insulate the rafters with foam that outweighs the disadvantages.

[@larrymaloney877]

@@aarondetmer946 , I have never heard or read the R-value of roofs after insulating the underside of the roof or under the membrane with foam. For example, what is the R-value of a Walmart roof? I suspect the R-value of Walmart walls is close to zero.

[@chris101505]

How will this system work with a whole house attic fan? How will it exhaust?

[@TeeyoDoubleDee]

You can't use it any more.

[@glorygloryhallelujah]

Would you still need to vent an attic if you plan to condition it?

[@supercatforever]

how does the attic breath now that is tight? does it need to?

[@beebob1279]

I've got knee walls on the second floor. My issue is that there is no air ventilation to let air go through the slope of the wall to the peak where it can escape. Is there a way I can put those roof baffles in without removing the drywall in the ceilings? I can crawl above the ceiling and the roof.

[@larrymaloney877]

Bob, behind knee walls, is easily insulated with a little ingenuity. But insulating those knee walls and slope ceilings correctly is critical.

[@uncle_creepy2743]

how my supposed to grow my weed up there with all that extra insulation......????

[@andrewbeaudry4399]

Where do you get this product, how will it work in winter, in the north east, ie Maine ?

[@andrewbeaudry4399]

Do you block off roof vents?

[@peterreed5867]

So super attic roof is 178 deg and the reg attic is 157 deg. Talk about torching roofs.

[@EdsterL]

Can I use this in my house in Mass? I have insulation below but my when I look at my roof decks I don't have insulation. Had insulation installed a couple of years ago, wonder why my they didnt recommend this because I can use this at my house.

[@larrymaloney877]

There are lots of ways to insulate incorrectly. Don't jump from one bad insulation job to another.

[@jasondonnell9628]

Why do I have ducks in my attic? Where do they come from? Are they included with the price of this service or are they extra? If I have a very large attic am I required to buy even more ducks? What do these ducks eat and how often are they to be fed? Also, how are these ducks trained to move air in the attic? Are these special ducks from another country or are these your garden variety city park type ducks? I don't want to hear ducks quacking all night long either. If I hear quacking all night I'm going to expect some kind of discount or different ducks. Much quieter ducks. I'm not trying to be difficult but I would imagine home builders could find a better way to heat/cool and insulate an attic without using barn yard animals. Is this even LEGAL?!?!

[@kimballbeck]

As far as I know, there are 3 kinds: air ducks, heat ducks, and cool ducks. The air ducks are, as the name suggests, made out of air, so they don't eat much, although they sometimes make a creepy sound. Heat ducks can be very noisy, and are always demanding fuel. Fortunately, they like human farts a lot; and, especially if you are a fat American like me, there is always plenty. Cool ducks like farts too, but they won't admit it; because like, they're cool....... Overall, this much better than the medieval system, where you had to have cows in your basement, for heat. They stink and have no interest in moving their own poop. And you can imagine how many hundreds of ducks you would have to have, just to try to keep the cow farts under control. I hope this helps.

[@trentmoore1187]

Ducts !

[@Ed1Ward]

You quack me up.

[@martinhodge3119]

I'm reporting you for harbouring illegal migrants.

[@Goz86]

A very rich old man is on his deathbed and is going to die soon, so he calls in his three sons. He gives them each a duck and tells them that the one who gets the most for his duck will be given everything the old man owns. The first son goes out, and when he comes back he says, "Father! Father! I got $10 for my duck!" His father says, "That is very good let's see how your other brothers do." About a day later the second brother comes home and he says, "Father! Father! I got $15 for my duck." The old man replies, "So far you have done the best, but let's wait and see what your little brother does." While the last brother was looking for someone to buy his duck, he happened to pass by a bar. When he got into the bar he saw the most beautiful girl he'd ever seen before, so he told her, "I'll give you this duck for a fuck." She replied, "Ok." When the boy got home to his father, his father was so furious that he yelled, "You get your ass back in that bar and get that duck back!" So the boy returned to the bar and found the same girl and told her his tale. He then said, "I'll give you a fuck for that duck." She agreed and while they were fucking the duck flew out the window and got hit by a truck. The truck driver was so sorry about what had happened that he offered to pay for the duck. The boy then replied, "$20 would do nicely." "No problem," said the driver. When the boy got home he was beaming with pride. He shouted, "I won! I won! I got a fuck for a duck a duck for a fuck and twenty bucks for a fucked up duck."

[@granitemanny]

Lets open a store in vegas

[@CCCC-tq8yo]

Did u

[@Kiddro22]

Shid Ralph didn’t go up in that attic though.😂😂😂

[@CCCC-tq8yo]

But it's sooooo expensive

[@OidHunter]

This is so wrong and out-of-date. There are so many variables you cannot have a "one solution fits all" attic insulation system. Depending on the climate, your attic roof should either be vented (via soffit vents or whatever) in order to prevent build-up of moisture and mold, or un-vented and sealed (though I've yet to find anyone using this). Vented roof spaces should also have a gap of at least 50mm behind the insulation boards like ones used in the video to allow air circulation, this prevents moisture build-up.

[@nrgsaver]

How long to you warranty a superheated roofing system for after changing the direction of millions of BTU's back through the shingles? Your FLIR unit shows over 175F with super attic, 145F without it. That's a 30F increase. The problem is not the hot ducts in the attic really, that's a symptom. Using Fred Flintstone technology that uses ducting is the problem. Using a mini split eliminates duct losses all together and have been used around the world for over 40 years.

[@kennyplay5982]

what do you mean by the term mini split??

[@dabcorn]

Texas A&M did a study of 'radiant barriers' back in the 1980's. I think it showed little to no added degradation over the 'normal life' of an asphalt shingle roof.

[@guardiannarock]

kenny play A mini split system is a small hvac system that is a 24"X24 fan unit mounted outside. Small pipes carry the heated/cooled air from said fan unit into the structure. They can be mounted just about anywhere and are super efficient. Basically a tiny heat pump unit. Google it.

[@larrymaloney877]

+dabcorn , Dr Energy should answer this.

[@Quercuspalustris50]

This has been studied: radiant barriers add about 2 - 8 F to the temp of the shingles and the shingles are rated to withstand 200 F. So they shouldn't hurt the life of the shingles.

[@Theredeemedchild2]

If you are even half handy, do this yourself. It's a customizable puzzle. Cut and tape.

[@johnsavage6628]

Do houses have attics? It's wasted space, and you don't use it! Yeah you put stuff up there then forget it! What's the point? All that captured eat in the summer! It's stupid! The same is true in the weather with the cold! Get rid of peaked roofs! And save money!

[@claytonwarrington2878]

5000$ later... and you only saved 10$ on your bill 😂😅