SUPER FAST INTERNET on a SAIL BOAT with STARLINK! [RED SEAS]

[@RedSeas]

We have received so many requests for our 3D printed bracket that we have added it to the Red Seas Store. If you would like to print your own rod holder mount adapter then head on over to www.red-seas.com/product/starlink-rod-adapter-mount-red-seas/ and place your order for instant download.

[@tonyfromaus7855]

Delighted to see the joy on your faces. Great stuff guys. I’m loving the upward spiral in utility and reliability that you are creating on your boat. Truly enjoyable watching you soar. Thanks for sharing it all.

[@RedSeas]

It’s a wild ride and it’s been a heck of a lot of work but every so often we can clearly see the milestones. At the risk of sounding like the millennials we are, fast, stable internet is a huge marker for us. But don’t worry, plenty more major upgrades still to come 😉 Thanks for watching and commenting. We will keep plugging away and try to make this life sustainable so we can keep sharing the adventure.

[@tonyfromaus7855]

@@RedSeas I’m an old fart. And occasionally I fall into the trap of thinking “millennials are…”, but really they are as varied a group as any of the others. And if you guys are exemplars of the category then it speaks really well for them. I love your can-do attitude and sense of humour. Thanks for replying, and thanks for sharing your bold and fascinating lives with us.

[@RedSeas]

Haha! Don’t worry, plenty of us millennials are… We will do our best to hold up our end of the bargain.

[@tonyfromaus7855]

@@RedSeas :)

[@SailLife]

We would love to install Starlink on our boat but there is this annoying thing in the TOS about it only being usable on the same continent as the shipping address. That's a real bummer :/ And then there is the 60 day challenge. Where you're only allowed 60 days in a different country. The tech clearly works it's just a shame you have to work around stuff like this. I wish starlink would come out with a crusing version (same ip rating as maretim dishy, no 60 day limit, no continent limit and maybe even slow connection offshore). I doubt that's going to happen but it would be freaking awesome :)

[@RedSeas]

Absolutely, we’ve been watching the updates for some time and waiting until things lined up to make it worth it. We’re aware of the continent limit but we’re hoping things have changed by the time we need to switch it over. And we got the RV version rather than the Residential with Portability so we are not limited to 60 days anywhere - we are fully mobile, as our lifestyle demands. I’m sure there will be a cruising version eventually, which will better suit the needs of sailors, but we couldn’t wait that long for the benefits of being connected so we’ve jumped on it now and hope it works out. So far so good! But we’ll keep you updated on how it’s working out for us 👌🏻

[@SailLife]

@@RedSeas fingers crossed for a crusing version 🤞🙂 Just so you guys are aware 🙂 There is a 60 day rule with the RV version. If you look in the TOS section 5.3. You will be required to move your registered address after two months. Time will tell how eagerly Starlink enforces the TOS 🙂

[@gr4yz4]

Great news - this is exactly the sort of tech I would expect you guys to discover (or invent :-). hope it makes life easier but you still get the chance to hang out in some nice cafes even if you don't need their wifi.

[@RedSeas]

It’s one of the biggest improvements to our working lives yet. Just being able to upload content without having to find a closed cafe that we can loiter outside of to “borrow” WiFi has meant we have so much more time in our day. Still working out how it will go as we sail further from civilisation but so far it’s looking promising. With any luck, we will try our first live sailing stream to Patreon soon so that could be a fun one to have on in the background at work or in the living room. 😊

[@timothylindsay3244]

Get either Qobuz or Tidal for Hi-Res audio streaming (EG, 24 bit, 192 kHz) and access to literally millions of artists, albums, tracks…a yacht like yours should have a Hi-Fi audio system :)

[@RedSeas]

Would love to get a tidal account again. I (iain) actually worked in the audio industry for quite a while so any uncompressed music streaming platform that is fare to the artists it showcases, is high in my book. Just need to grow our patreon community a little bit more before we can afford subscriptions again. 😃

[@SeaYaSailing]

Launched another 40 yeasterday, I have SL on my boat.......it is wonderful

[@RedSeas]

We have been impatiently waiting for months and now it’s onboard, it really is an absolute game changer. We can stay off grid for longer, we can work from the beautiful remote places that we love to seek out, and we can have consistent connectivity wherever (almost) we go. So impressed so far!

[@jaymack9706]

Great content. Wound love to see a follow up video on this and how it preforms over time and the quality of the hardware ect. Thanks again.

[@RedSeas]

We are working on an update for you soon. Loads more to share between now and then but we will try not to keep you waiting.

[@alfamale21267]

So excited for you to see this working... We watched the satellites go over our house a few years ago and I wondered when it would become more widespread and useful. Your video has answered that..! So good to see and hear your lovely song/video you did for Kate and David's wedding a few weeks ago... If you had got Starlink then you could have done a live link up!

[@RedSeas]

Oh haha, wouldn’t that have been great! Yes we’ve been keeping an eye on the developments and impatiently waiting for a service that suited our constant travel needs and so far this seems to be doing well. We’ll keep testing it as we sail to new countries and hopefully it’ll keep us connected as we go!

[@timmitchell8784]

That is so awesome guys!!!!! Congratulations

[@RedSeas]

Possibly the biggest game changer for us in two years!

[@lonnieparsons5058]

Great meeting you both at Customs yesterday. Enjoyed your video and you have made us a believer! Sv Watoosh. Rita and Lonnie

[@RedSeas]

Haha you found us then? Was great to meet you both and spelled we may have tipped the scales when it comes to decisions over starlink. Things are changing with starlink constantly so we will probably need to do an update video soon but most of what we shared is still accurate. There is talk of offering an add on for ocean coverage but it’s not clear if this will be available for the RV subscription.

[@AbNomal621]

By bet is mostly up. To fill in some, the satellites are in an elliptical orbit and the preferred is catching them as they hit their peak. The relative motion slows way down.

[@RedSeas]

It’s been progressing at a crazy rate. This week starlink made a new record for number of launches in a year too.

[@Streetstories_]

Outstanding

[@RedSeas]

Thanks. We are pretty blown away by it too

[@Streetstories_]

@@RedSeas please do another video with updates on the Starlink. I’m getting one and buying your adapter.

[@marklicc]

😮 Exciting!

[@RedSeas]

It’s hard to express how exciting it really is for us. Hopefully it works out in the long run as we travel far and wide. We will try to keep everyone up to date as we go.

[@tlowe2502]

Alright guys, that sounds great. That's going to make it a lot easier all the way round. Looks like things are looking up.👍👍🎉🐾

[@RedSeas]

It’s a huge step forward. Now we just have to find enough patreons to be able to pay the monthly bill lol.

[@radole4596]

Love your channel, you are great. As I am right now searching for a liveaboard catamaran I would be exited to have fast Internet on board. But Starlink maritim comes at a price of about 10.000 $ for Hardware and 5.000 $ monthly fee???. and the RV Version of Starlink is not meant to be used on the move. Is the connection stable as your boat moves at the anchor? Keep up the good work. Ralph

[@RedSeas]

Absolutely. Starlink Maritime is not designed for cruisers but for the commercial market. I’m sure they will deliver something specifically for the cruising world at some point but right now, the RV package is working well for us. We’re going to continue to test it in different positions on the boat and see how well it performs in different conditions but so far, at anchor, we’ve been amazed. Hardly any drop outs and continual amazing service. So far so good!

[@mason9354]

Would you possibly be able to make the fishing rod mount available for download? I could see others wanting to mount the dish in the same way.

[@RedSeas]

Good idea. Or maybe this is our route to making our millions 😂

[@MrCaptainSkipper]

Looking to get this for my lobster boat. Can ya sail with it? And still have internet? How is it in seas?

[@RedSeas]

It’s been great for us. We have sailed with it plenty. I have been reading that some recent updates can limit in motion use to below 10 knots but to be honest, if we are gong more then that, we are enjoying the sailing so not surfing the web.

[@EXCELCORAL]

Hello , got the file what type of plastic did you use for your printer ?

[@RedSeas]

Great question. So we used PLA+ for our print. It has been out in the elements, facing 60 knot winds, tropical rain storms and more since the day we got the system and it hasn’t degraded at all. I’m sure there are other materials that people would recommend but we printed with what we had and it’s been grest

[@JoaoAmadoTV]

Have you felt the need to unplug the motor, especially on anchor or buoy?

[@RedSeas]

We actually get asked that a lot. We have all the parts to do that hack but have not felt any need to cut into the dish and disable the motors at all. It performs really well almost everywhere we have been.

[@trulyamazingsailing7056]

Thanks for reviewing this - question how did you run the simple connections? Is it permanently installed or will you store it inside and move it out to the rod holder when you want to connect. I interested in getting it also but just not sure how you did the wire run.

[@RedSeas]

At the moment it is just temporarily installed on the rod holder so we put it up when we want to use it (every morning so far!) but we intend to install it more permanently up by the hardtop so that we’re not tripping over the cable running through the cockpit. We’ll film an update video soon on how we install it and share it with you to see how it’s working out 👌🏻

[@markmckenzie1559]

Hi guys how does it go with the boat swinging ? does it send the motor mad? or do you have it flat now? Thanks for the vid 😎

[@RedSeas]

Hi Mark, we have had zero issues with swinging around connections. Unlike a camera gimbal, the dish actually doesnt move often at all. When we have been in swing-y anchorages, we might get a few more dropouts but nothing too disruptive unless we are trying to live stream to patreon

[@markmckenzie1559]

@@RedSeas thanks😎

[@JoaoAmadoTV]

I heard that you have to take the antenna back to the home address after 2 months. any news regarding that?

[@RedSeas]

We were thinking the same but it appears to be in the wording of the RV plan. We have to change country every 2 months (we are nomadic so rarely can we stay in a single country more than 3 anyway). The residential package with portability switched on does require you to return to base every 2 months (to hold your spot open in that geofenced area). RV package doesn’t have a reserved space in any geofenced cell so you don’t have to maintain your space anywhere. Drawback is that if you go to a busy cell, you are the lowest of the low when it comes to service priority. So it’s not all roses. 😆

[@mikearanda881]

That is so great

[@RedSeas]

A game changer for sure.

[@Patrikbob872]

I hope you are well, I saw a video about Starlink on KZbin. I have a question, Are you connected to the Internet at all times with Starlink? Does it stay connected during boat movement and strong shocks? Thank you if you answer my question.

[@RedSeas]

Hi, I just replied to your email on this also. It in general yes! Our starlink has been performing great with very few dropouts. The biggest enemy to starlink are obstructions. So when we anchor in a mountainous area, we see more dropouts than at sea or in remote islands.

[@adagioadventures1055]

Great update on SL for your boat!!!. How have the phone calls or video conferencing (Zoom etc) worked on the SL. Clear, consistent?? I assume you simply use internet calling feature on the phone??? Did Millennial also add one??

[@RedSeas]

It’s been a huge improvement for our working life. We have been able to do live video for patreon catch-ups and things as well as plenty of other zoom calls and things. It does have some dropouts but that is mainly due to our current cruising territory being outside of supported coverage. If we swing a little at anchor it can be an issue too but nothing unmanageable. Our buddies on the falcon just did an episode about it I think.

[@JV-cu9gx]

Hallo :) I have a question about your experience of starlink. have you been to several different countries with it? And how long have you been using it?

[@RedSeas]

We have been thru 11 countries with it now I think. We will be coming up on a year of starlink onboard I think. Maybe closer to 9 months.

[@sailingkumatoo]

🤣🤣 I've never seen you two so excited!

[@RedSeas]

Haha. It’s crazy how much our world has changed in the last few days since we installed it! We are free to travel again, and we can work as we go! Hurrah! 🙌🏻

[@stuartmilne7360]

Hi - great video on this fascinating topic. We will be sailing from Antigua down to Grenada this winter and we’re looking as this solution. I’m curious about 2 things - (1) have you had any issues so far with the 60 days limit? And (2) how has coverage been in the various locations you have sailed to since installing the kit? Thanks!

[@RedSeas]

Hi stuart, pleased you enjoyed this episode and hope that you have a blast sailing south. We have now used starlink everywhere between st Martin and Grenada without issue. In general we don’t stay in one place long enough to test the 60 day limit but as far as I can work out, they are not currently enforcing it. In the case of RV package it appears they just reduce the quality of service the longer you stay somewhere but that only appears to be in the case of built up locations with many users. We have had a near faultless experience so far. Now that they are opening up caribbean coverage, it has been getting better also as the dish spends more time looking up than north so sat coverage must have improved.

[@stuartmilne7360]

Thanks - now i just have to figure out how to get a 240v version delivered to Antigua!

[@RedSeas]

Good news for you. The router they shipped us is 110-240v. Just change the plug and hope your batteries can manage the load. 😀

[@greenjp779]

I wish that there was a "Pay for what you use" service for internet

[@RedSeas]

That would be super useful. Have a feeling we would end up using more than we can afford tho. Lol

[@greenjp779]

@@RedSeas eh maybe lol. All I know is that I usually pay for a lot more than what I actually use every month, even with the lowest internet plan I would still only use about half

[@jimjam7087]

Great vid and hello from Australia. Any chance you could share the Fusion or stl file for your mount? I have the same rocket launcher and Starlink en route!

[@RedSeas]

Think we posted it somewhere. If you search in patreon you should find a link I think.

[@lulivalentini9738]

Hello!! Gooooooooood In witch Islands do tu tested? Works in all the Caribbean?

[@RedSeas]

So good to hear from you guys. How are you doing? We are actively testing throughout the lesser Antilles. Will have to film an update as we build a bigger list of places it works.

[@kevinf7057]

Have you looked to see what locations are used for the IP address connections? If you are away from U.S. shores, does it use a U.S. IP address?

[@RedSeas]

So far we have seen Atlanta and Puerto Rico up addresses (these are the closest ground stations im aware of at this time)

[@jackechan1311]

a w e s o m e

[@RedSeas]

Life changing

[@dutchglobetrotter4513]

Okay that is crazy cool, definitely the way of the future.

[@RedSeas]

It feels like we are living in the future. I actually played streamed music today without it dropping out. Crazy!

[@dutchglobetrotter4513]

@@RedSeas And the more satellites Musk puts up there the better it will get. I'll be doing an Atlantic crossing this fall however I don't think there is coverage there yet.

[@RedSeas]

The Maritime package $$$$$ says it will be offering mid latitude coverage in 2023 but unless your delivering a cruise ship, mega yacht or oil rig, I’m not sure it’s the most affordable option lol. Sit tight. Something tells me there is a cruiser offering in the works that can help with the delivery runs.

[@RB-xe1fd]

Forgive me if you have answered this already. How far offshore can you use your starlink? I have heard that about 12 miles offshore it doesn't work. Have you experienced this? Thanks.

[@RedSeas]

It is a question that comes up a far amount. We have run it through most of the Caribbean and it’s been working great. As a rule of thumb we assume 12 miles due to the size and shape of the starlink geo-cell coverage but to be honest, we don’t do much web browsing off shore as we are usually enjoying sailing and getting offline for a bit. Until the 5G plans develop a little more, we would still not consider starlink a life safety system like those offered by iridium for example.

[@RB-xe1fd]

@@RedSeas I was kind of hoping it would take the place of my iridium plan that's why I was curious. I haven't seen anyone online running tests 500 plus miles offshore yet. I was hoping to purchase the premium more powerful dish.

[@calmauric8218]

SPAAAACE!! XD

[@RedSeas]

DAAAATTTAAAA FROM SPAAAACE!! Loving it so far

[@JoaoAmadoTV]

8:06, can you share the STL file with us ? maybe a link in the description...

[@RedSeas]

We actually set up a Facebook group called “3D Printing on Boats” just for that reason. It’s a great please to share files and ideas for boat parts etc. join the group and we can authorise you.

[@EXCELCORAL]

Hello , I placed the order for the starlink rod adapter download , but never got the instant download link

[@RedSeas]

Hi, I just saw your email and will send over the links now. When the order was processed c you should have received and automated email with the download link. Perhaps it landed in spam? Either way, a fresh email with links is on its way in just a second. 😊

[@EXCELCORAL]

@@RedSeas Thanks for the quick response, found it !

[@timvolker9693]

It looks super good!! How is it working when you are sailing ?

[@RedSeas]

It’s been great. We don’t tend to use it much underway as we are enjoying the sailing side of things but the few times we have, it’s been good. As we are south of the US, it does need to point north so in bigger swell we have found it drops out a fair bit but not for long so we can keep up with emails and things.

[@AndrewTomayko]

Nice!! I'm wondering if you guys have found a workaround the 60-day international limit? Or are you in the same country as your registered address? I appreciate it.

[@RedSeas]

So our research found that the RV package sets the 60 day limit to being in another country from the registered address. But that this means if you stay in that one international country for 60 days. As we are moving between countries far more frequently that that, our 60 days effectively renews each time we cross a border.

[@mangosucker]

I'd like to know a workaround as well. I purchased my RV service dish in Canada but spend 6 months RVing in the US.

[@RedSeas]

@@mangosucker I think the critical aspect is that the US is one country where as we rarely spend more than 2 months in any single country.

[@mangosucker]

@@RedSeas Someone suggested I drive back to Canada after 2 months to reset it but that's a long drive from southern California. I wonder if I cross the border to Mexico if that will reset it for another couple months.

[@santoshgaha169]

WoW 🙂

[@RedSeas]

You said it! Seriously WoW!!!

[@jwg170965]

Your open internet speed is as measured between Antenna & Router. Not the speed between Phone and Router (WiFi). Still great to see…. Start selling the adapter between Antenna Mount and Fishing rod holder 👍$👍$. Love watching the channel 😎👍

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, we tried to share all the stats but these change so regularly that it wasn’t the clearest. Fortunately, the starlink app offers an advanced speed test which shows the speed between dishy and internet separately to that of iPhone to router. Thanks for watching. Hopefully we can share a lot more now we can be connected more often. (#TellYourFriends 😂)

[@barryholiday8998]

Which country are you currently in? Will it work while you’re sailing and how far offshore?

[@RedSeas]

We are continuously testing as we move around and will be trying it out as we passage offshore the length of the lesser Antilles between Grenada and St Martin. As we are on the RV package, we don’t expect to use it off shore (nor do we really need to). Getting out into the waves is a great way to disconnect from the world rather than sit on our phones the whole time. 😂 We are updating our patreon account as we discover more about what the dishy can do too

[@ElliottParkinson]

I have the original kit. It uses 120w (10 amps at 12v) continuously even idle. That's insane in the winter and renewables can't cover it. What does this kit use?

[@RedSeas]

We think we have a G3 kit (although that could just be G2 and we have been told otherwise). It draws around 4A max. The router itself runs around 25W on our 220v inverter and we see a bit of activity when the motors are active. Still early days but we will do our best to keep people up to date as we go. So far we have been able to run the system throughout the day and a decent portion of the night but still turn it off and bring it inside when we sleep.

[@dune_tech]

I'd buy the fisher rod holder adaptors if you sell them!

[@RedSeas]

How about you join our patreon for a month and you can have the design for free? If you don’t have a printer, I’m sure we can work something out too.

[@AkfishinDan]

@@RedSeas am interested as well. Joined the 10/mo Patreon, curious if I could get the pattern

[@AlgaKolagen]

congratulations, you have found a treasure from elon :D

[@RedSeas]

It’s a pretty amazing change from our hot spots. Been running it for around a year now and still going strong

[@adamdotson9887]

Awesome... looking into living on a sailboat and I'd still need internet lol. Love to know how reliable it is

[@RedSeas]

It’s been great. We have hosted a few live streams for our patreons to keep them up to date on how it’s performing as we travel. Probably overdue an episode update on it too

[@necubredatikazem]

Hj,rhis is Starlink RV standard or not?

[@RedSeas]

This is the standard RV version and it’s been perfect for us.

[@necubredatikazem]

@@RedSeas works also offshore? For example 25 miles from shore?

[@RedSeas]

@@necubredatikazem Yes, in some places. We even had it working 150 miles offshore but that’s not guaranteed. Check out our other video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6aUhqeJgbafr7M

[@necubredatikazem]

@@RedSeas thanks a lot,👍👍🥂🥂

[@necubredatikazem]

Do you have original Starlink router or not?

[@brentmeyer4162]

Would you be able to share the 3D files for the fishing rod holder adaptor?

[@RedSeas]

Actually already shared it to a Facebook group we started 3D printing on Boats. Donations most welcome 🙏🏼 😉

[@stevesteel6066]

Caribbean is covered, as is USA and Europe, I believe

[@RedSeas]

The Caribbean isn’t officially live yet (most places are expected to open up in the next 6-9 months) but we’re hopeful that we’ll be able to connect to most of the islands along our route. 🤞🏻 We’ll let you know how we get on!

[@vandalorian8777]

I know this is old but I’m by now you have discovered that you can set your phone to WiFi calling and can make and receive phone calls

[@RedSeas]

Thanks for the comment. So not all networks allow for WiFi calling unfortunately. Sadly most of the places we have been, the local networks have not supported it so we have stuck to WhatsApp and online video call services for the most part.

[@marcoopdeweegh8284]

Remote mobile working life style realized!

[@RedSeas]

At last. Years working from 4G hotspots and then lightning fast internet over night. So cool.

[@Steve-qn8gn]

I wonder what point they found out it’s not unlimited>

[@RedSeas]

Running at roughly 2TB a month and haven’t been cut off or slowed down. So far so good. Also worth remembering that we made this episode a few years ago so things have changed a lot since then 😃

[@Steve-qn8gn]

@@RedSeas yeah, that’s true about the length of time but I don’t think the terms have changed. Price for the roam service only up $15 which isn’t bad.

[@RedSeas]

Yeah, we just got a message the other day that mobile - global is going up 100% to $400 a month! Have you ever heard of a service going up 100%?!?

[@Steve-qn8gn]

@@RedSeas this is musk 101 imo, he will raise prices based on demand. Look at Tesla, they are shaving the prices of the model Y and are begging people to buy them at 0.99% interest rates. If they were sold out he’d jack the price up. Maybe that’s what’s going on with the starlink, not really sure. Those satellites only last so long and they have to keep deploying new ones to replace them also, so there are recurring costs to them. Not sure they have enough out there for that end of life though.

[@JosePedroEspinosa]

You can add a webcam!

[@RedSeas]

Do you mean can we live stream? If so, yes and we have actually done a few of these for our patreons as well as one or two for KZbin. It’s been great and surprisingly reliable.

[@JosePedroEspinosa]

@@RedSeas No. I was thinking about a webcam showing the sea around you 24/7 for example, or anything that you can show in real time 24/7.

[@RedSeas]

Hmm. We may have to think about that one. Can’t have everyone seeing ALL our mistakes 😂 😂

[@JosePedroEspinosa]

@@RedSeas 🤣🤣🤣 In this case install the webcam high in the mast showing the far horizon.

[@TeamStevers]

Elon is the man

[@RedSeas]

It’s pretty incredible to see what starlink can do for people who live on the water. Just wish it was a little more affordable.

[@dukedirtywork620]

put it where its not going to get salty

[@RedSeas]

Indeed. We hope to move it a little further from the outer side of the hull but on a sail boat, crossing oceans, everywhere is salty 😆

[@dukedirtywork620]

@@RedSeas Livin the salty dream!

[@larryrichards9418]

You have a title that says you got starlink. Then you spend the first 7 minutes talking about other stuff.

[@RedSeas]

Indeed. We wanted to give context to our excitement and share a little more about how we have managed to stay connected and continue to upload our episodes for patreons and KZbin. Starlink is certainly a huge step forward for us so we hope everyone who joins us for the adventure can celebrate along with us.

[@larryrichards9418]

@@RedSeas I understand where you are coming from. Its just: I am interested in details on starlink on a sailboat, so I clicked on the thumbnail based on the title to see what kind of info you could provide about it, not about other connectivity options. So that first 7 minutes-for me-was frustrating. I hope you do some follow-up vids on your starlink experiences and set-up. Fair winds and following seas!

[@RedSeas]

Cheers. We hope to do some follow up videos as we get to know the system and what it can do. There are a lot of unknowns in this new frontier so we will try to do our part to answer these as we discover them. For future reference, we try to add time stamped chapters to our videos to avoid any frustration when searching for a specific part of a video. Perhaps we could have highlighted that at the start of this video as I’m sure your not the only person to want to jump to the big news. 😉

[@Hellegaard16]

Since your using the residential dish out at sea,, and it's not meant for out of the sea compared to the maritime ,Elon musk did say that will void your dishes warranty fyi, and I will let you know that they do have software that can detect when your dishes in motion. So when you're at sea the software will let Starlink know that you're not using the correct dish for being out at sea, and that may void your dish warranty, someone already tested this and they did get a notice from Starlink that since their dish is in motion they may void the warranty, the phone to router is not a real speed test compared to router to internet, The phone to router is just the speed between your phone and router. It has nothing to do with your actual internet speed

[@RedSeas]

Indeed, the maritime package is priced more for commercial use and we certainly can’t afford it so we had to make some concessions. As we live full time on Indioko and have no land based home, warranty’s are kind of useless anyway. We are next really able to return things when we are so far from civilisation so that is why buying starlink was such a leap for us. If it doesn’t work out, we will be out of pocket a fair amount.

[@johnoleary9317]

OR Its FLAT.

[@RedSeas]

Ours hasn’t really gone into flat mode. Just off flat a few times perhaps.

[@johnoleary9317]

@@RedSeas World....