Super Gravel Bikes Build: Salsa Warbird & Mason In Search Of

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@gcntech
@gcntech 4 жыл бұрын
Which of these would you rather build up and ride? Let us know in the comments below
@maartends6051
@maartends6051 4 жыл бұрын
Si’s bike
@davidadamus177
@davidadamus177 4 жыл бұрын
What year is Sis Warbird? I have a 2019, and the tubing looks a lot thicker.
@romanpramuka2703
@romanpramuka2703 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, only Si built a gravel bike, what Alex built is a pure mountain bike with drop bar cockpit, but this amount of spacers under the stem with aggressive angle pointed downwards looks absolutely stupid 👎
@Star14trek
@Star14trek 4 жыл бұрын
Guess Si but as till prefer my Kenisis cross light with 650b and 43mm Knobbly rear with 50mm Knobbly front tires + room for mud guards LOL
@davidadamus177
@davidadamus177 4 жыл бұрын
Would have to say Si's bike, the faster the better!
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 4 жыл бұрын
Each bike is gorgeous in its own way. I think I'd like one of each.
@DavidMaruca_
@DavidMaruca_ 4 жыл бұрын
GMBN viewer here! Had to say, saw gravel bike on GCNT and I had to see what you’re up to. 1:25 and I knew I found the right video ;P
@richardgeorge4424
@richardgeorge4424 4 жыл бұрын
Would be good to see a full list of componets used, right down to the bar tape, Thanks
@SiopaoSauc3
@SiopaoSauc3 3 жыл бұрын
Both bikes have Shimano PRO Gravel Comfort tape. Love it on my bike.
@Quevallyn
@Quevallyn 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I run GRX 46-30 with 11-34 on my gravel bike. It’s great for faster gravel but also those low gears are great for the hills towards the end of 200km+ audaxes when your legs are in bits. Of course, I have the obligatory 2 sets of wheels for ultimate versatility. My gravel bike is n=1.
@mihalis1010
@mihalis1010 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see what they weigh.
@andrifsig
@andrifsig 4 жыл бұрын
Rarely have I seen bikeporn with such a high production quality! Well done!
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 4 жыл бұрын
Well, then search “Rides of Japan” :) Ex video: “THM Clavicula SE” or “Shimano RX8”
@itsdouetthierry
@itsdouetthierry 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I just finished building, or repurposing my 2015 Giant TCX Advances Pro 1 frame and wheels with the following: - SRAM Eagle XX1 AXS rear derailleur - SRAM Eagle XX1 10-52 rainbow cassette and chain - SRAM Force AXS Hydraulic shifters (road shifters) - Keeped the original ROTOR crank and BB, but swapped the double ring to a single SRAM 40 teeth narrow/wide ring - Keeped the original SRAM S-Series Post Mount hydraulic brake calipers (broke 1 Banjo for Road Hydalulic Disc Brake Hose Non Connectamajig....., waiting for part ordered to arrive in order to finish the build) - Same handlebar - Same Giant P-CXR1 WheelSystem; 24mm wide, Alloy wheels. But had to swap out the Shimano free hub with a DT-Swiss XDR hub I had laying around. Added a 1.85mm spacer before putting on the monster SRAM 10-52 cassette. - Mounted 50mm Schwalbe G-One Utltrabite tubeless tires - Added Shimano PD-EH500 pedals. I haven't ridding the bike yet properly, just testing the main things; shifting, single chain ring, singe brake (since I broke one...) and overall handling with the pedals and massive gearing ratio being a 40 front to 10-52 rear!
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 жыл бұрын
Smart groupset choice.
@itsdouetthierry
@itsdouetthierry 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeoInterHyenaem Thank you. The bike is FULLY 100% funtional now and I am in love with it. I just swapped the tires for 45 wide ones that are more for road and dirt/gravel and it is a beast. I seriously think that even road cycling will end up going to single speeds at some point. Went out on a 65km dirt/mud/snow/road ride this past Friday and it was a delight to ride. No issues what so ever. Shifting is like butter and once you hit the pavement, you fly compared to the MTB guys. The only place where the MTB have an advantage is on the downhills that are rocky/unstable since the gravel bike is "hard front and tail" ...
@thecappy
@thecappy 4 жыл бұрын
I have this 2020 warbird with grx di2. It is actually less racy than the previous models. This years model is designed to be ridden at the DK 200 race so it is more endurance oriented than race.
@billwoods4131
@billwoods4131 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing more relaxing than a cool bike build video
@sifi7950
@sifi7950 4 жыл бұрын
Warbird all the way for me!
@DavidslvPT
@DavidslvPT 3 жыл бұрын
Best assembly video made by GCN 🥰
@neilmdon
@neilmdon 4 жыл бұрын
Simon - you have a body double doing the internal cable routing? I am trying to place that bracelet at 5:50. Thought it was Cannings but I can’t find video evidence.
@playandteach
@playandteach 4 жыл бұрын
Good catch. I saw it, but thought I'd misremembered.
@d_charles
@d_charles 4 жыл бұрын
I think there was a body double for the whole build - you just see hands and never see his body or face. Compared with Alex, who was in every shot.
@The1trueDave
@The1trueDave 4 жыл бұрын
@@d_charles That's a new GCN T-shirt right there - "I was Si's hand double" :-) Might raise more questions than it answers though!
@d_charles
@d_charles 4 жыл бұрын
@@The1trueDave I'd wear it!
@motomike007-1
@motomike007-1 2 жыл бұрын
Looking amazing !
@yumyumhungry
@yumyumhungry 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your guys opinions on the Salsa Cutthroat. Drop bar MTB's are an interesting new thing happening. Slack geometry, 2.2in tires, dropbars.
@akacooke
@akacooke 4 жыл бұрын
puts 40mm of spacers and then a nearly negative stem 🤦‍♂️
@Eatsgreencandles
@Eatsgreencandles 4 жыл бұрын
probably have to give it back. It's the lighbulb shaped tyres on the Siborg's aerospeed bike that got me.
@akacooke
@akacooke 4 жыл бұрын
@@Eatsgreencandles the max you should leave spare on a steerer tube is 30mm
@dcv9460
@dcv9460 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME BUILD GUYS! 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
@danabean4408
@danabean4408 4 жыл бұрын
I always wonder what happens to these dream bikes after the builds when the parts were provided by sponsors. Do they sell the bikes? Send them back? Or does Si have a warehouse full of bikes and a really serious n+1 issue?
@chemclimber
@chemclimber 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered that too
@evandvhenrich
@evandvhenrich 4 жыл бұрын
I think these videos are great. Make me want to tinker.
@19redmiata94
@19redmiata94 4 жыл бұрын
I run GRX 1x with a 44t chainring and an e.13 9-42 cassette. Its the about same gear range as a 53/34 with an 11-34. Low enough geara for hills and fast enough for the flats and descents.
@Justin-zv4cm
@Justin-zv4cm 4 жыл бұрын
This is almost a full ASMR bike build video...
@steve.b.23
@steve.b.23 4 жыл бұрын
7:18 That bubble won't do you any favours.
@jonhairsine6340
@jonhairsine6340 4 жыл бұрын
Tell us more about those new Conti tyres...can't see anything on the Conti web site
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 4 жыл бұрын
It's the new Conti Ruban 'proute,tarp (prototype version). You already get them on Spanish websites.
@lasselyhne-hansen9338
@lasselyhne-hansen9338 4 жыл бұрын
One is a Mason and the other is also amazing
@paolocapozzi927
@paolocapozzi927 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have an InSearchOf but I have a Mason Bokeh. If the same level of thoughts has gone into that bike as in the Bokeh it will be an absolutely incredible machine. I was very close to buy one...but then I decided to go for a hard tail instead to be able to push my offroad possibilities even further. Oh, almost forgot...don't call the Mason a gravel bike...Dom does not like that term at all ;)
@qingyuhu
@qingyuhu Жыл бұрын
Drop bars on moutainbikes been around for a long long time, it was called monstercross. Been there, done that, back to flat bar for my MTB.
@mopedvieh
@mopedvieh 4 жыл бұрын
GCN Tech: They build their whole bike on their own. Regular GCN: They install their tyres on their
@tn9274
@tn9274 4 жыл бұрын
i think the white one is more close and similar with lightweight 29ers xc race bike.
@RM-Nielsen
@RM-Nielsen 4 жыл бұрын
steel frame though. probably not so light...
@sabamacx
@sabamacx 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use XT post-mount calipers with GRX shifters?
@RM-Nielsen
@RM-Nielsen 4 жыл бұрын
I have used 105 shifters with XT post mount calipers on my monstergravel bike and it works just fine. Just pay attention that road and mtb hoses have different inner diameters and thus the little pieces that go in there with the olives. i forgot which one i used... I think road.
@mjimish1601
@mjimish1601 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎄 GCN.
@fuquanali
@fuquanali 4 жыл бұрын
No TL-EW02 was harmed in the making of this film
@mazerickd
@mazerickd 4 жыл бұрын
Have a warbird with ec90 crank that I'm upgrading to ee wing cane creek
@mattmacpherson1033
@mattmacpherson1033 4 жыл бұрын
Two beautiful and incredible builds. Great job!
@klaasbaud7185
@klaasbaud7185 4 жыл бұрын
What are those dura ace discs doing there? On the monsterbike side.
@lolwutyoutube7561
@lolwutyoutube7561 4 жыл бұрын
Why is the warbird dirty before it was assembled?
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex 4 жыл бұрын
I'd venture to guess that manufacturers just lent them two used framesets of their own, because they don't have any new ones in stock.
@sytsedijkstra
@sytsedijkstra 3 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to connect the dropper to the GRX shifter? with only 1 cable head on the end?
@chrisaldrich6917
@chrisaldrich6917 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like you got your inspiration from Gee Milner for the way you shot the builds
@The1trueDave
@The1trueDave 4 жыл бұрын
6:23 I have seen the light! Why don't all drop handlebars have these graduations? No more squinting and messing about with spirit levels, just line 'em up each side and go!
@sckschan
@sckschan 4 жыл бұрын
#AskGCNTech I’m running a Dura-Ace 9170 groupset, can I change to the GRX rear derailleur for poor road conditions?
@kylelajot6145
@kylelajot6145 4 жыл бұрын
#AskGCNTech Hey, I just bought the Sram Force 22 Mechanical rim brake groupset, I was wondering if I could use the same groupset for a mechanical discbrake set-up? Thanks
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you can. If the bike supports disc brakes. But don’t expect improved performance over rim brakes. All mechanicals are equally as terrible at braking. I’d even say, mechanical disc brakes are even less efficient than mechanical rim brakes.
@a.sarmiento5116
@a.sarmiento5116 4 жыл бұрын
I still did not get the size of Alex's cogs or are they just the same because it looks big to me. Nice build bike!
@richardbondad4942
@richardbondad4942 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm just a bit confuse and curious, what was that thing Si putted in his bar end??
@joecullymtb2883
@joecullymtb2883 3 жыл бұрын
Id go Si's. if you want something like they other bike you may as well get a mtb.
@traviszumwalt2081
@traviszumwalt2081 4 жыл бұрын
The bars brand and size were not stated, Whats the info? thanks!
@shaun_canada
@shaun_canada 4 жыл бұрын
Well we know for sure they're not made by Shimano, Conti or Park Tool. :)
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex 4 жыл бұрын
The bars are PRO, which is a sub brand of Shimano.
@traviszumwalt2081
@traviszumwalt2081 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmechex thanks!
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex 4 жыл бұрын
@@traviszumwalt2081 You're welcome!
@shaun_canada
@shaun_canada 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmechex I know the bars on the Salsa are PRO, what about the other bike.
@svenkatachary659
@svenkatachary659 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Need some help. I have a custom built post mount gravel bike with Hope RX4 4 piston calliper & drop handle bar Shimano GRX 810 - 2*11 Groupset. I now have my first carbon frame CRX Elite 9.2 and so I want to change my old gravel bike with flat bar and use the GRX shifters on my new carbon frame. however, I am not sure which flat bar shifter supports 2*11 and want to check if I can use the Deor XT Shifter .... Please can you suggest various options that I can use. Also can I use the Deor XT break lever with Hope RX4? .... I am doing this change because there are not many drop bar post mount callipers available and Hope Tech do not make RX4 callipers anymore which was the only one available at the time I built the bike
@barnettkr
@barnettkr 4 жыл бұрын
At 5:14, that chimney is ridiculous! Manon would be disappointed.
@barnettkr
@barnettkr 4 жыл бұрын
And using cheater strips when wrapping the bars!?! 😳
@prestachuck2867
@prestachuck2867 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked the Warbird, but Alex’s custom steel frame puts every carbon frame ever built to shame. Positively beautiful craftsmanship right there.
@Juan_More_Mile
@Juan_More_Mile 4 жыл бұрын
hahahaha every carbon frame? yeah, that external cabling is amazing....
@billincolumbia
@billincolumbia 4 жыл бұрын
My non-boost spaced MTB will be shocked to learn that the only way to fit 2.3" tires is to have boost spacing.
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 4 жыл бұрын
OK - burning question - what is that tool roll mounted to the bottom boss of the downtube of the Salsa Warbird? Brand and model name pretty please....
@djseitz425
@djseitz425 3 жыл бұрын
These videos make me realize how little I know about bikes.
@travis4863
@travis4863 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I absolutely loved the Mason. But who are we kidding? In the US that bike is gonna cost me close to 5k with all the proper bits and bobs. It seems that a great many of the bikes featured tend to be in the same ridiculous stratosphere of pricing. Could you do the regular folks a favor and showcase some more attainable bike, in respects to pricing.(occasionally) Again I am absolutely over the moon on the Mason but 5k for an occasional muck run is just not realistic IMO. Thanks for allowing me to bend your ear for a moment. Happy new years to you all, and thanks for the content. Thanks, Travis "Traveller"
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the much more affordable and considerably prettier Pinnacle Arkose. Or the Nordest Albarda or the Albarda Ti.
@giuseppepes
@giuseppepes 4 жыл бұрын
#AskGCNTech Thank you for the great show. I always watch all the shows. I've a question regarding the bike position. I've noticed that I tend to use match more my buttock muscles than my quads when I am climbing a steep road. Since I am trying for a race with a lot of climbs, should I incline my bike on the turbo when I am training indoor?
@enuazeal
@enuazeal 4 жыл бұрын
what are those white shoes Si is wearing?
@matthieurenvoise5578
@matthieurenvoise5578 4 жыл бұрын
The white one is the nowadays/remastered version of a mtb from the 80's. Really cool bike👌👌
@barbm.4301
@barbm.4301 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, the stock Warbird is built with (low end) SRAM Force and DT 350 hubs, and costs $7,000. Who would pay $7K for a bike specced that cheap? Shimano GRX/XT is a significant upgrade!!
@maquismark5852
@maquismark5852 4 жыл бұрын
The Mason Frame with the bend in the downtube looks like the iconic mid 80's GT Pro Performer as ridden by the hero of my childhood Eddie Fiola. Doesn't look quite so good on a gravel bike. I much prefer Si's build👍
@roydarnell3683
@roydarnell3683 4 жыл бұрын
Especially with that massive spacer stack Alex is using!
@Penri1215
@Penri1215 4 жыл бұрын
#AskGCNTech I am running a GRX 1x 40 chainset , Would it be possible to fit a XT or XTR 38 chainring to a GRX crank.
@davidoverfield1249
@davidoverfield1249 4 жыл бұрын
I knew that Si was smooth on the bike, but watching him build his bike, I was very impressed. It was almost like he was a true mechanic. 😉
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t Si. I thought that it was obvious. Chunky fingers assembles bike -> Si cuts the plastic on the Conti tires -> mechanic puts them on the wheel -> Si hands back in the frame, putting the finishing touches with his skinny hands
@jameslee-pevenhull5087
@jameslee-pevenhull5087 4 жыл бұрын
What's missing here is a SON hub dyno and a great big F-Off headlamp.
@CocoandZo
@CocoandZo 4 жыл бұрын
Wahhh 🤩🤩
@erobertson1417
@erobertson1417 4 жыл бұрын
Your rear disc caliper on the second bike isn’t installed with the right length of bolt. Hopefully you fixed it. It’s dangerous. Hopefully you fixed it before you went riding.
@jmounce50
@jmounce50 4 жыл бұрын
And now Si beats all the GCN presenters in a road race with his new Salsa Warbird Gravel Bike. Who says Si needs a aero TT bike to reign supreme?
@ketjuariittaa
@ketjuariittaa 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer road groupset on gravel bike. No mud and gnarlier furface is gravel road. Can go ”fast” on flat road with low cadence and still hit any hill. Owiesly 2x front.🚴🏻‍♂️🎄❄️
@armadillito
@armadillito 4 жыл бұрын
British "gravel" has occasional stones amongst one hell of a lot of mud.
@josephraychen2509
@josephraychen2509 4 жыл бұрын
Hi i am a viewer from Taiwan Ultegra di2 and dura ace mechanical has similar price, which one should i go for?
@adgfoto
@adgfoto 4 жыл бұрын
Ultegra DI2
@adgfoto
@adgfoto 4 жыл бұрын
To bad Si did not use heat shrink tubing with the DI2 cable en breakhose ... He could have mounted the D-fly someware inside the frame ..
@TheDarKris
@TheDarKris 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize those tires were prototype tires till I read the sidwall...
@jeffheck5559
@jeffheck5559 4 жыл бұрын
#ASKGCNTECH Is there a difference in performance when riding a lighter bike compared to you losing weight?
@matthewlemin5077
@matthewlemin5077 4 жыл бұрын
If you are heavier the centre of gravity of the bike+rider is higher - which will make handling less stable. If you are lighter the centre of gravity is lower, which is more stable but you would need to lean into the corners more. The main advantage of losing weight as a rider is it is FREE!!! In fact, fewer burgers, mac-n-cheeses, lasagnes and bacon sarnies will save you money. Whereas losing 2kg off the bike could cost you a grand. Also, don't forget aerodynamics. A fat bloke like me presents a larger cross section to the air - so losing weight has dual cycling benefits, not to mention all the health benefits. A no-brainer really...
@jeffheck5559
@jeffheck5559 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Yes, losing weight is the best option. My beater bike cracked so I’m using my carbon road bike this winter. WOW, big difference in my local short rides.
@acartaylan
@acartaylan 4 жыл бұрын
Si where have you been bro? Wellcome back
@jacksharmonoquinn572
@jacksharmonoquinn572 4 жыл бұрын
By the video I prefer Si's bike, without seeing them in action, knowing the weight, etc...
@shadytrane
@shadytrane 4 жыл бұрын
Ok... I want those 29 Conti tires
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 2 жыл бұрын
the head badge should be ti
@lawrencesingleton2153
@lawrencesingleton2153 4 жыл бұрын
Supposed to be a bike build video but the only components you have told us about are the sponsored ones! Boo and dare I say hiss.
@StevenHartono
@StevenHartono 4 жыл бұрын
#AskGCNTech @gcntech that soothing bike porn was so therapeutic... if you had videos of just straight up b-roll footage of sexy bikes, and its build with lofi hiphop background music - i would honestly play it all day in the background! please make that content!
@rikkiola
@rikkiola 4 жыл бұрын
17 teeth differential on chainrings must be pushing the limit!:? Isn't Shimano recommendation 16 max, or is GRX different?
@docontra4921
@docontra4921 4 жыл бұрын
GRX is different; the 48-31 is the stock shimano part ( bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/component/grx-11-speed/FC-RX810-2.html ). Note that GRX front derailleurs and cranks are incompatible with the rest of their road components because the chainrings sit further outboard from the frame compared to the road cranks to allow frames with bigger tire clearances (all other GRX 600 and GRX 800 level components, including both shifters and chainrings, are compatible with 11 speed Dura-Ace/Ultegra/105).
@docontra4921
@docontra4921 4 жыл бұрын
#askgcntech Is it possible to swap the chainrings in a GRX crank for larger road versions? (assuming good frame clearance) Given the kind of riding I do (urban in a particularly flat and poorly surfaced city) and my natural tendency towards low cadence riding, my ideal bike would be a gravel bike with a subcompact (52/36) crank.
@armadillito
@armadillito 4 жыл бұрын
@@docontra4921 there a loads of options out there (perhaps more in previous model years) that just use 105 or ultegra sub compacts with 11-32 or 34 at the back. (Aftermarket cassettes up to 11-40 are available and can work okay, apparently)
@docontra4921
@docontra4921 4 жыл бұрын
@@armadillito Thanks for the reply! I was about to buy my first drop handlebar bike ever just as the pandemic hit; my plan was to use 105 crankset, front derailleur and cassette* and GRX-600 everything else**, but since I've been bitten by clearance issues once (with my current fully rigid MTB bike) the option to run the wider GRX crankset with subcompact gearing is really appealing for me 😊 *: Back then I'd probably have gone for the 11-28 even if it means losing the GRX clutch rear derailleur for a 105 part, but had a think while seeing the video and wanted to play it safer with an 11-30 which is ultegra-level only IIRC 😊 **: I will admit to wanting to treat myself to a pair of Ultegra-level 160mm brake rotors 😊😊
@keythinwatford7153
@keythinwatford7153 4 жыл бұрын
Has Si joined the Vice Squad?
@MrRotten99
@MrRotten99 4 жыл бұрын
Did you guys inherit the space porn music from GtN? I'm not sayin it's bad...just "different".🙂
@OTownReview
@OTownReview 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably time to ditch the sneeze guard boys.
@anurag-21
@anurag-21 4 жыл бұрын
Can a MTB be converted to a gravel bike?
@docontra4921
@docontra4921 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and there have been quite a few (early '90s 26ers!) submitted to "Screw riding up grades, buy upgrades!" in the GCN tech show. However, it's not quite as simple as throwing a drop-bar handlebar and road levers at your current bike. Couple of things to consider: - If you're starting from scratch (don't have the mtb frame just yet), just buy a gravel bike unless you absolutely positively have to have a monster tire clearance (> ~45-622 ETRTO) and/or front suspension - Swapping to drop-bars will change the fit of the bike; you should change your stem too ("do a bike-fit*") - You most likely can use road-specific derailleurs with flat bars (Shimano shifters tend to be cross-compatible with the entire road/mtb range of a given generation and same amount of gears; Shimano explicitly offers flat-bar derailleurs for Claris, Sora and Tiagra). - Changing the wheel size of your bike (i.e., from 26" to 700c) is not a particularly good idea, but can be done if you really know what you're getting into - If you want to change your groupset to something modern, you will need to swap your rear hub/rear wheel if your bike has 7 or less gears at the rear, and may need swap it if you're going to a groupset with more gears at the rear than the bike originally came with. If your frame is disc brake compatible but came with rim brakes, you'll most likely need to swap both hubs if you want to switch to disc brakes (the hubs likely don't have the mounts for disc rotors). - You'll likely have to run 1x (single front chainring) or smaller 2x chainrings due to fit issues (the rear triangle of an MTB tends to be much wider than the rear triangle of road bikes and bigger chainrings will rub on the frame)**. As a reference, the largest large chainring you may be able to fit is 48t. - If your bike doesn't have mounts for disc brakes, you'll have to use cantilever brakes/v-brakes. If you're switching to drop bars this complicates things as, depending on the groupset you want to use, the brakes may not be fully compatible with road rim brake levers (Cantilever/V-Brakes and modern road rim brakes generally have different cable pull ratios). There is a way to get around this with pull-ratio adjusters -- featured in old Ask GCN Tech segments but the specific company recommended apparently has gone out of business -- or you may luck out and find 3rd party cantilever/v-brakes with revised pull ratios. - If your bike does have disc brake caliper mounts, check for compatibility of the caliper with your frame before buying, esp. if your frame is older as caliper mount standards have changed (you'll probably have to use older/lower groupset tier MTB calipers -- should have no compatibility issues if you're using shimano -- or mount adaptors) - Solid 650b (27.5"/584 ETRTO), 700c (29", 622 ETRTO) and possibly 26" (559 ETRTO) MTB front forks are readily available and may make for a nice upgrade, depending on the state of your current fork and what you plan to ride on (I ride mostly on tarmac, a solid fork is almost a no-brainer 😊) * : Not necessarily a professional bike-fit, but you will need to adjust the stem length and seat position to the new handlebars. **: I technically ride an MTB (Hardtail XC frame) gravel bike 😊 assembled by my LBS, with a solid front fork, narrow and long (for today's MTB standards) flat bar/stem combo, Alivio shifters and 3x front derailleur/crank (48-36-26), Sora rear derailleur/cassette (11-25), and cheap and cheerful Tektro Auriga Comp hydraulic disc brakes.
@anurag-21
@anurag-21 4 жыл бұрын
@@docontra4921 appreciate the time you have taken to explain each things anyways I'm starting from scratch I just bought a mtb frame 29er and was thinking to have rigid fork setup with 29*2.0 tires and ALIVIO 3x9 or deore 2x10 or 2*11 groupset with hydraulic discs and flat handlebars if you want to know the brand of the frame it's Mountainpeak Everest 2 bought it in Philippines have direct mount FD internal cabling and smooth weldings have a look on the frame and share ur opinion
@docontra4921
@docontra4921 4 жыл бұрын
@@anurag-21 No worries! You'll have little to no compatibility problems, esp. since all your components will be modern and, since you're using flat bars, your brakes are completely independent of your shifters giving you more options. Your setup will depend on the kind of riding you want to do and the frame clearance: - Alivio 3x9 will be cheaper to buy and maintain (esp wearable items -- cassettes, chainrings/chainset, chains), have better range with closer ratios, and a higher top gear than with Deore (Alivio 3x tend to have chainsets with a big ring of >=40t and up to 48-36-26, Deore 2x all seem to be 36t-26t) which makes it more suitable for mainly road riding. The downside is that the 3x front derailleur setup and use is slightly more fiddly, and that you have more "unusable" gears (the top of the cassette on the large chainring and the bottom of the cassette on the small chainring) - Deore 2x10/2x11 (and SLX 2x12) will give you higher quality components at a higher price (esp. maintenance, as the chains especially wear more quickly), and will be better suited for hilly riding and more off-road riding (although given the gearing options of the 2x, I'd personally seriously consider going 1x11 or 1x12). However, if the GRX chainset fits the frame it becomes a viable option (esp. on 2x11) If you decide on the 3x9 option and you're riding on flatter terrain, consider using a Sora rear shifter/cassette, you'll be giving up on range but will gain closer ratios (I run an 11-25 casette with the 48-36-26 and I can climb pretty much every hill I care to ride on the 36t chainring, but I live in an exceptionally flat bit of the world 😊) Whatever you do, don't buy your wheelset (or at the very least, rear wheel/rear hub) until you decide which gearing option you will use. Freehubs are made for specific types of cassettes, although if supported by the manufacturer, you may run cassettes with a smaller number of gears than what the freehub is designed for by running spacers or have the option of interchangeable freehub bodies. You can find 3rd party 10/11 speed cassettes designed to fit hubs for 9/10 speed casettes respectively (typically by either using a 10t sprocket as a lockring, or more commonly, using a huge sprocket as the lower casette that clears the hub flange). PS: If the frame has a threaded bottom bracket and you decide to go the Alivio route, consider using an Octalink BB/Crankset instead of the Hollowtech-II BB/Crankset, I had two crank failures with Hollowtech-II Alivio cranks 😊 (in both cases, the splines on the NDS crank failed, and the NDS crank suddenly came loose -- without falling off -- and wouldn't hold its position)
@nisched.
@nisched. 4 жыл бұрын
Did Si bring out the best in Alex because he’s a pro or is Alex just more enthusiastic for mountain bike parts? Rowdy maybe.
@billlayer5117
@billlayer5117 4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed no bike weights or freewheel check?
@shubhank20
@shubhank20 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Si, what's up Alex , I'll see you next year😂🤣🤣 get it.
@SerpentWithin
@SerpentWithin 4 жыл бұрын
I built up a Warbird when Uncle Sam sent me a check and I grew tired of playing "Dodge the Bentley" on my road routes. I object on principle to the GRX front derailleur because of crank compatibility issues; I installed a FSA 48/32 SL-K Light crank and used a standard Ultegra FD and RX800 rear mech since I didn't want the gearing restraints of the full GRX build. I gotta say I'm a little disappointed in Team Blue for sending out demo parts for promotions when shops can't get barbs and olives for hydro brakes, 12 speed derailleurs are backordered until the heat death of the universe and you'll probably never see an eight speed cassette again. I realize the marketing and supply divisions are separate entities, and Shimano has always been phenomenal with customer service, but sending out parts to promote when those same parts won't be available for months, if this year, seems kind of tone deaf.
@SergioCristancho
@SergioCristancho 4 жыл бұрын
44 is wide... 42 is just standard... I know because I am on some cowchipper salsa 44 bars and then they are WIDE... But comfort as none for me. We will see then what happens on a 42 next year.
@tonywatson8101
@tonywatson8101 4 жыл бұрын
Two by two with hands of blue........
@marcvandijkum7423
@marcvandijkum7423 4 жыл бұрын
Notice how neither did a crank spin for video after the last fail, hahaha.
@kennaef7046
@kennaef7046 2 жыл бұрын
Why the gloves?
@XavierBetoN
@XavierBetoN 3 жыл бұрын
Dear all the bikeshops, I don't understand why you cut cables with a squeeze-cutter, I always cut my cablings with dremel or handsaw and they are much more stiff. Some parts don't even require capsules it's so smooth. Seriously, you have all the tools but why you ruin the tip of cables with squeeze-cutters?
@YaniofWigan
@YaniofWigan 4 жыл бұрын
Savages...not using di2 cable tool :)
@playandteach
@playandteach 4 жыл бұрын
Not entirely sure of the point of this beautiful to watch video. No individual installation of any one part carries enough detail to learn from. So just art, then?
@CliffeDuffield
@CliffeDuffield 4 жыл бұрын
Is it a competition? I want to win the rowdy bike; when should I collect it?
@charliedevine6869
@charliedevine6869 4 жыл бұрын
Di2 does not make you go any faster.
@neilchatterjee7644
@neilchatterjee7644 4 жыл бұрын
this music is very trippy given the content.
@jameslee-pevenhull5087
@jameslee-pevenhull5087 4 жыл бұрын
Touring bikes with no racks or mudguards, with knobbly tyres.
@scoobyben1979
@scoobyben1979 3 жыл бұрын
Si? The cheat strip? Really? I've seen you wrap bar tape properly though!!
@itarry4
@itarry4 4 жыл бұрын
#GCNTech Now that the weight limit isn't really a issue with the pros anymore, as it's easy for the teams to get their bikes below the weight these days and now the UCI have effectively banned the riders from riding on their top tubes when descending do you think we'll see more teams adopting the dropper post as this would effectively allow them to get to basically just as low and in a safe way?
@danielstrickland7124
@danielstrickland7124 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I just watched bike porn...
@cesb79
@cesb79 2 жыл бұрын
bikeporn
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94
@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 4 жыл бұрын
The Mason should have had a flat bar instead of drop bars because basically it is a mountainbike. This version looks like it would be hard to control in the type of terrain those wheels were designed for.
@StopaskingformynameYouTube
@StopaskingformynameYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
That's just a mountainbike with handlebars from a road-bike. GCN is going to suckle the tit of the next niche thing the bike industry tries to implement to earn more money.
@Cabomccabe
@Cabomccabe 4 жыл бұрын
All porn jokes aside, I loved the video. The slow-mo made my wife wonder what the hell I was watching.....
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