SUPER-HARD Elements NO ONE Performs in 2022

[@matthewplampton955]

Bare in mind Produnova was doing it on the old vault table as well. The power she had was immense.

[@feverspell]

The Produnova, to me, is an ugly vault because of how badly the gymnast has to cowboy her legs to do the full number of rotations. Not to mention, landing in such a deep squat like that will destroy your knees and ankles. If no one ever performs it again, it won't be missed. I like the Mo Salto the best out of all of those skills. I wouldn't mind seeing that one come back into some gymnasts' routines.

[@mariusa.5863]

Totally! They should raise the value of the Mo Salto to make up for the lack of connection bonus.

[@luispalacio1168]

Pruvinoba has been landed perfectly only once in 1999 by her. No women has landed like that after her.

[@cgheat2397]

I agree the produnova is not the prettiest, but the story behind it is really interesting in my opinion. The creator of this vault is the only person who has landed it without a deep squat. The mo salto is very unique, but it stops the entire routine as the element doesn’t give any swing after the skill. This leads to a break in the routine so they down graded the skill.

[@gaodrob7938]

@@cgheat2397The Mo Salto hasn't been downgraded, it's just that now if you don't reach the horizontal after regrasping the bar, you lose -0.1 in Execution.

[@freestyler1455]

@@cgheat2397 I watched Russian cup and even a lot of male gymnasts performing fhs double tuck vault at this competition fell of this vault or landed it with a deep squat. That proved me once again that this vault is really hard to land

[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

Hot take: the Produnova is still more difficult than the Yurchenko Double Pike.

[@donovangardner1325]

Agreed

[@thesovgc]

What are their corresponding D scores in MAG?

[@demonsalwayswin]

Yes it is, because front sommersault elements are generally considered more difficult.

[@rogermaximoff1131]

@@thesovgc Handspring double tuck is 5.2 while Yurchenko double pike is 5.6🙂

[@thesovgc]

@@rogermaximoff1131 haha ty! Sounds like a hot take indeed! 🔥

[@theresultsphase]

To be fair, the only time Produnova ever landed a "good" Produnova is featured in this video

[@dannymorgan7252]

She landed it pretty solidly multiple times

[@theresultsphase]

@@dannymorgan7252 She landed it on her feet, sure. But she never landed a good Produnova vault again--which is understandable because it's one of the hardest vaults ever. there's a reason no one else has landed it solidly either.

[@ctruth6185]

Not true at all. Your fave could never do what produnova achieved. She was a very striking and skilled athlete. I gotta give greatness its due. Proudunova = greatness.

[@meh5036]

I'd love to see the Mo Salto in competition, it's simply incredible to look at!

[@JohnnySqueaky]

It’s been banned in the code for a while

[@meh5036]

@@JohnnySqueaky wait seriously?

[@poshbo]

@@JohnnySqueaky it's not banned and is in the current COP, it's just not worth performing due to the inability to connect in or out of it and the high risk and likelihood of deductions

[@dako7538]

The Def is by far my favorite skill in this video. Even when gymnasts perform it with leg form deductions I still LOVE it. Possibly my favorite UB skill period

[@ctruth6185]

The Def is a very daring skill!

[@plantycassy]

Honestly, Produnova is the only person who ever should have competed that vault, and even she only landed it beautifully once.

[@johnboyzan3304]

I would love to see some sort of full twisting bonus on beam, full twisting skills have become so rare

[@missmoxie9188]

I think it’s safe to say the Mo Salto isn’t done very often because it takes SO MANY giant swings to build up the speed to do it. Even with its high difficulty score it’s not a lot of bang for your buck

[@poshbo]

It's also impossible to connect in or out of a Mo so it doesn't actually increase the D score much. The risks and deductions then make it totally not worth it to perform

[@floralgem]

Funny I remember a lot of the French team having Defs way back when, including the 2004 UB Olympic champion Émilie Le Pennec.

[@vanillamarshmallow]

I love the Def

[@rossanaguasconi6753]

The last one is insane!

[@beanieful204]

Why is the Mo a G? should be at LEAST an H or I

[@mariusa.5863]

Yeah, ridiculously underrated.

[@wsudance85]

The Hristakeiva is my favorite. My dream routine would have elements of Henrietta Onodi's bar routine with a Strong, a Hristakeiva, and a finishing with a Ray or a back swing into a front double-double laid out.

[@melissagreen_]

It's funny how the spotters never actually catch or break their fall but just pats her on the back after she's already fallen. Good job.

[@1acvillanueva]

All the skills! I wish there were more creativity and yes more difficult skills.

[@daniellepierson8470]

I would love to see the Mo more

[@gymlandia4467]

I’m the biggest biles stan. Yet I don’t think a double pike is more difficult than a double front. On UB,BB, and FX a double front is more than difficult that a double picked back. So I don’t understand the VT rating. Both are underrated tho.

[@jordansefton]

Entry to the vault and generation of power are massive factors here, and the piked body shape also increases the difficulty more. Vault is a completely different beast to the other three, on beam and floor the way you enter a (round off, front handspring etc) is competely different on vault, they are flat and level, where as on vault you have to mount the table before performing the double tuck/pike. Honestly I’d say don’t base your opinion off the other 3 events because they have no affect on how hard it is to actually perform said vaults

[@gymlandia4467]

@@jordansefton I disagree because a front tuck vault is rated higher than a yurchenko pike.

[@lampwick4427]

@@jordansefton Front saltos are harder than back saltos and the Yurchenko entry makes it easier to perform the vault, so yes the Prod is harder than the YDP

[@lenr112]

@@lampwick4427 Maybe you should tell that to all the girls who are attempting break neck Produnovas that they would be better off doing the much easier Yurchenko double backs, I bet the thought never occurred to them.

[@gojewla]

I hope more gymnasts try to do the Produnova on competitions again. It’s fun to watch them try.

[@dottomschmidt8931]

I think that an unintended consequence of the formulaic connection bonus to the Code of Points resulted into fewer big skills, and more (common) connections. I would like to see some nuance added to connection bonus to eliminate points for common skills. For example, I would eliminate all connection bonus for any sequence of back handsprings and lay out step outs on beam. I believe that the result would be a wider variety of interesting skills being performed.

[@gymlandia4467]

The biles vt is ranked the same as the prudonova.

[@ctruth6185]

The Produnova is STILL the most difficult VT to execute bar none. It is not an ugly move at all. Produnova's skills are untouchable even today. Proof that she was one of the greatest gymnasts of all time. So they downgrade her skills because nobody can touch her repertoire.

[@raceytray3963]

I’d settle for more gymnasts doing Amanars.

[@arsenmakarenko6812]

i have very nice idea. will you make video with the most difficult non-acrobatic elements in MAG?

[@sivayamsiva9343]

Greatly appreciated 🙏congratulations to all participants really wonderful performance 👌👌👌

[@michaelhart7282]

I just love that queen Yao Jinnan did the Mo salto

[@maxvillareal9654]

We are in start to middle of the Quad, also, most countries are trying to recover from a trainwreck that was the pandemic. I'm confident we'll see gymnastics regrowing soon.

[@anovemberstar]

Wow, the bar!!!!

[@pablodelcaminoalonso5988]

Personalmente pienso que hay una tendencia hacia la homogeneización de las rutinas, penalizando e, incluso, prohibiendo movimientos difíciles y peligrosos. Entiendo que haya preocupación por la salud del gimnasta, pero un competidor siempre tiene en lente dar lo mejor, llegar más lejos y triunfar.

[@mht5875]

I like the Mo Salto the best

[@mariusa.5863]

I'm by no means an expert, but to me it's ridiculous how obviously under- and overrated some skills are.

[@emiliarain7269]

Could you have chosen a more unflattering photo of the girl in the left??

[@elioferreira1253]

Esse último salto foi o mais top de todos

[@rg1whiteywins598]

Fig needs to make creative elements mandatory. Routines have become more difficult and exact but dull.

[@francisnguyen6349]

Awesome! But, there's no one performs are super hard elements in 2022!

[@manuelgrothe608]

in Olympics, Where Are The Perfect 10s?

[@mariagloriadelcarmen]

College games

[@terranatura4443]

College need a rest

[@manuelgrothe608]

agree

[@katiesykes2215]

No grips on that mo?

[@tjs114]

I imagine a talented bars specialist could turn the Mo Salto into a transfer to lower bar, but I don't know if any would waste the effort because of all the wind up and how it is a momentum killer. The double forward somersault vault is ugly. It has always been ugly and so few land it clean that it should probably be downgraded to make people not want to waste the time with it. I seem to remember about 10 years ago the gymnasts migrated to simple beam mounts because then they could build up the routine and finish big. Too many were missing the difficult mounts and throwing the entire routine off.

[@cynot71]

Do those coaches know that they're there to catch the gymnast and NOT just to watch the gymnast fall?

[@Lenlen-ui9nj]

Prudunova is very good

[@inpanopticon]

What about the Counter-Kim?

[@evoandy]

It’s kind of shocking to me that any of those layout Full mounts were fully credited. Those were not straight body positions.

[@ria-zul-zannah7100]

I don’t mean to be disrespectful but the Produnova is not very pleasant to look at - nothing artistic. But I also admit at the same time that it is probably the hardest skill to perform on vault and the gymnast who is performing it has to be an absolute beast like Produnova or Biles. It's just not everyone's cup of tea. But the layout full mount is both difficult and beautiful at the same time. Mo Salto is one of my favourite skills but I think gymnasts don't perform it because of the connection problem probably. Still it is very fun to watch.

[@teagenthetiefling5296]

I hate skills where they open their legs like on the Produnova. It doesn't look great.

[@Lenlen-ui9nj]

Hii

[@projectsbyliz]

The "Mo salto" is named after Mitch Gaylord. Do some research before you put a video together.

[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

I’d advise you to do the same. This is women’s uneven bars, not men’s high bar.

[@projectsbyliz]

@gymnasticsmasterclass I've watched women's gymnastics for years and it has been referred to in the past as a Gaylord.

[@projectsbyliz]

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[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

Mitch created the element on the high bar. Mo Huilan created the element on the uneven bars. Different Codes, different disciplines, different apparatuses.

[@projectsbyliz]

It was still referred to as a Gaylord when Mo performed it in the 1996 olympics.

[@AnywhereChrista]

That thumbnail is a really poor choice. Why did you use such an unflattering photo? 🥺

[@stvp68]

How do men link the Gaylord to other skills?

[@gymnasticsmasterclass]

Men are stronger and don’t have to worry about hitting the low bar. It’s not impossible for women of course, but definitely much more difficult

[@stvp68]

@@gymnasticsmasterclass Thanks!

[@lampwick4427]

Check out Zhou Duan 1997 asian games bars. She doesn't do a Mo, instead she does an Arabian salto over the bar, but she swings out of it, changes grip and does a clear hip circle up to handstand. It can be done.

[@lucy2special189]

Oh! Please find a vault to perform that Simone can't do. Or Something Please, it's a shame the way some of you people carry on...it seem as if you are saying this little black girl has no business being able to executing anything Better.

[@ae2948]

This comment is so messed up, it's impossible to tell whether it's pro-Biles or anti-Biles !

[@Girlhead]

I never liked watching the Produnova in competition because everyone always landed on their butt.