Super Metroid - Part 2: Dense With Information

We split off from the required path, do a lot of item collecting, and greet an old friend we haven't seen in over a decade.
Interested in learning Super Metroid speedrun tricks? Here's some great resources:
Speedrun Wiki - wiki.supermetr...
Tutorial Videos - crocomi.re/
Metroid 2002 (Outdated, but has good fundamentals with videos) - www.metroid200...
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[@PatJamma]

Man, I can't say it enough how happy it makes me that you're back to doing LPs. Obviously TRG and your streams have been a thing for years. And while I love TRG, it's nice to see you do solo videos again, especially since time zones makes me miss nearly all of your streams. I subbed to the channel waaaaaaaay back in the day when you were still uploading Super Mario World ROM hack videos. Those videos shaped a huge part of my life. I barely had any idea how to use a computer but I desperately wanted to play those hacks along with you. Because of you and those videos, I ended up looking up guides online on emulation, patching ROMs, hell I didn't even know what a zip folder was before then. But that moment kick-started my interest in computers and technology in general, and now I'm coming up on a career path change into an IT job. I definitely don't think I'd be in this position in life if not for those videos, so thank you Jon.

[@sethdeath888]

God so much of this comment is me. While i never ended up pursuing IT as a career, the rest of this is me in a nutshell. Jon made a huge impact on me when i was younger and i cannot thank him or his videos enough for the overall positive impact of it all.

[@Destroyah5000]

If it wasn't for Jon I wouldn't have known that Super Mario ROM hacks were so simple to set up back in the day, as I too was just getting my first extended experiences with the family computer. It couldn't handle cutting edge games at the time but ran ZSNES and Lunar IPS perfectly. Of the ROMs you featured on your channel I still wish I could find 1-Up Clock's Furious Mario and play it. His Koopa Koopa Mob level piqued my interest for playing custom ROMs like nothing else.

[@TNewGuy001]

I'm really digging how in-depth this is going, specially showing the diverging paths that...i actually dident know you could do at this point.

[@ImDemonAlchemist]

I'm actually really sad that I don't see any other comments talking about this series recently. I love these two videos. I know Jon has other stuff going on, and I admit I haven't kept up with his streams or even TRG for the last few months, but I do hope he continues this series eventually. Jon's awesome and his videos are always worth the wait.

[@reprogremTTV]

I think my favorite part of this LP is you're using the speedrunner terms for the rooms because none of them have 'official' names. Red Tower, Billy Mays, etc. All important to know if you're skimming a speedrunning guide for Super Metroid! Also I love LPs that show the 'intended' route and the 'speedrun' or 'fun' routes and you're knocking this one out of the park.

[@nate567987]

or a randomizer

[@homuraakemi103]

Goof to show both, given most playthroughs are by people who, by their own admission, CAN’T do the intended routes anymore…

[@moneygrabbercodswollop8133]

@@homuraakemi103 that’s me with Mario Sunshine and the Pianta Village mission “the village underside”. I don’t even know how to beat it normal anymore, I only know the quick way with the tree at the level’s left side

[@DrakonLameth]

If you listen to the animals, they're also making sounds/visuals similar to the suit when they jump -- the etecoons chirp as they jump like the spin jump sound; and the Dachora flash blue when at spark speed, blink white/gold because it ducks to get the spark, and shinespark up to the speed booster-broken blocks like Jon showed while trying to get them stuck out of the tutorial hall, and when they're at spark speed and have it stored, they make the same 'energized' sound.

[@ggggfan1]

More trivia about name stuf: The name "shine spark" is a reference to the classic 70s mecha anime Getter Robo G, being the strongest attack of the robot Getter Robo Dragon. The resemblance is clear in how it functions with the robot being enveloped in energy and boosting forward to attack enemies in a pretty similar way to samus

[@nate567987]

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[@vanesslifeygo]

Th-that's 50 years ago!

[@MGlBlaze]

Oh man. I appreciate the "Samus Aran Bombing Power Hour" reference, and also realize that video is OLD now. Also: 41:10 - I literally also did not know that, wow. That's going to make the next time I decide to revisit the game a little easier.

[@luigissidekick861]

21:35 fun fact about Crocomire If you actually don’t attack him at all when the fight starts he will literally do nothing. Until your shoot him, he will never actually try to harm you and he will just sit there

[@RainingMetal]

It's one of the few things I knew about the Metroid games from outside material, not having played the games myself. So everyone interprets Crocomire as this innocent beast that Samus mercilessly kills because reasons.

[@TwilightPrince123]

Another fun thing about Crocomire: Try using a Power Bomb on him and see what happens~

[@Amidamaru717]

Just wanted to add, your question about it being lava or magma, the answer is neither. It's acid according to the lore, hence why heat protection doesn't save you from damage, and why Crocomire "melts" instead of burns.

[@runman624]

It somewhat depends You're right, that was acid, but acid only counts when there's bubbles The "hot water" you see in upper norfair doesn't hurt you when you have the final armor, yet in lower norfair it will still get you damaged Point is, liquid is weird in this series

[@ElectricFortune]

@@runman624 There are two separate types of hot liquid in Super Metroid: Lava and Acid. Lava is the orangier, bubbling sprite found throughout most of upper Norfair, and it's also what fills the entrance to Ridley's head, and as you said the final armor makes you immune to damage from it. Acid is the more yellow, flat surfaced sprite that slowly rises and falls, as seen in Crocomire's room, the Gauntlet in Crateria, and entirety of Lower Norfair, and you take damage in it regardless of your suit upgrade status. They are entirely consistent throughout the game.

[@marcoklepsky]

I believe Zero Mission basically retconned that acid, and basically makes it out to be the Beta Acid (that you see in Tourian after getting the fully-powered suit).

[@scottcameron3030]

​@@ElectricFortuneVery late response but to add onto this, the acid in Tourian specifically looks like a different color than normal acid, but they literally just overlaid the typical yellow acid over an orange background so that it appears differently than the acid in Lower Norfair, Croc, or in Gauntlet (the room northwest of the ship in Crateria). It makes things a lot more confusing than they really are.

[@LanceOmikron]

So, funny story about the gauntlet (or at least getting to it): I've recently been REALLY into doing the Super Metroid x Link to the Past crossover randomizer. When I started it, I was super familiar with LttP while only having beaten Super Metroid once prior (though I had played several other metroid games, like Fusion) and not knowing many of the speedrun tricks. At one point, I was SUPER stuck, but I was able to see which items were at the end of the gauntlet area, one of which was the Speed Booster, which would let me make progress. However, I wasn't sure HOW I could make it up to the top of the cliffs where the gauntlet entrance is since I didn't have the space jump or morph ball bombs. I tried wall-jumping, and it FELT possible, but I met with little success. But I'd try coming back to it every so often, and I eventually managed to make the jumps, reach the gauntlet, and get the speed booster to continue the game. It felt soooo good to actually be able to get up there with wall jumps alone.

[@BigBoct]

My experience is the reverse of yours; I grew up playing Super Metroid but never got much into LTTP until I started doing commentary for the SpeedGaming Twitch collective on SMZ3 races. To this day I've never *played* a SMZ3 seed, but my commentary is well-liked and that feels good.

[@NhoVahdy]

26:20 ...Holy crap. I *remember* watching the video that this joke came from. I can feel myself turning crumbling to dust at the years behind that reference. I've just looked those videos back up again. And might I just say this: You've come a LONG way since that boss rush hack. XD Congrats on your successful career, Jon, and may you have many more successful years to come!

[@Nintendofreak023]

Which video did it come from if you don't mind my asking?

[@NhoVahdy]

@@Nintendofreak023 Specifically, the intro of "Let's Play Super Metroid Omega Boss Battles Part 4"

[@Nintendofreak023]

@@NhoVahdy Sweet, thank you!!

[@GmodPlusWoW]

*Tripper:* *_[The Firm - Star Trekkin' intensifies]_* Also, pour one out for Crocomire. He was just trying to life his life and just wanted you out of his cave.

[@Bluedino152]

Having played super Metroid in the "intended" route more often, I find it interesting how the game has you legit treck back and forth between brinstar and norfair like 3 times from getting the high jump to getting the grappling beam

[@BigBoct]

The quick charge and short charge work because the game handles Samus's speed and the bluesuit effect separately. When running with Run held, your speed steadily increases, but the variable which tracks if the bluesuit effect is active only increments on one specific frame of the running animation. So you tap Run around that magic frame, so you aren't accelerating as often, and you build the variable in a shorter runway.

[@lade1rex]

I have to admit, cracked a dumb smile at the "Samus Aran Bombing Power Hour" line. Now THAT'S an old one!

[@Kay_Sea251]

When Jon did the shinespark through Gauntlet, I was hoping he would reference Sex Master, or "Teletubby Huggie", as it was referenced in the last GDQ race. It requires quick charging and a VERY tight window to execute.

[@YourPalRal]

This LP, while different from TRG's, is very interesting. I'm loving all these speedrunning tricks being shown off!

[@MusicoftheDamned]

Even as someone who has yet to play this game, Crocomire's death is one of the few things that I don't think I'll ever get used to despite having known about it for over a decade. Granted, it was basically going to die anyway given what the Space Pirates do, but even that would have been comparatively more merciful.

[@spamton1337]

I hope this series continues one day

[@Fruckert]

I...didn't know the grapple beam could pick up items. God, I've been playing this for nearly 20 years and there's still a lot to it I didn't know about.

[@Klarden]

"Norfair Reserve" is the tank of energy your body needs!

[@jay_cee583]

Small funny thing. Those gray beetles that were impervious to your gun, missiles and even super missiles. They die in one hit to grapple beam. :D

[@Finnycoco]

Man, I've 100%'d this game well over 50 times and this video has taught me so many cool little things I can't wait to try out on my next run. I had the exact same reaction you had ("that is so cool") when you showed off that shine spark through the gauntlet. I also had no idea about shooting a missile to get rid of those grasshoppers. Not to mention all the small things like being able to exit the blue room (underneath Billy Mays) without power bombing again. I can't believe I'm still learning new things about this game and its only fitting that you're the one to teach them to me as the TRG LP was the reason I fell in love with Super Metroid in the first place. Great video Jon, excited for the rest!

[@BlueKnight85]

I don't know much about Super Metroid in general, but Crcomire's death was one thing that always stuck with me after seeing it. When Nintendo can get messed up, they don't play around.

[@axlexe8639]

3:05 I mean, the Storm Missiles are definitely a spicy addition.

[@willofthewind]

This is one of my favorite things you've put out out so far! It's clear you're really into the game, and I've found myself looking forward to uploads of it!

[@MicaiahBaron]

Gotta love how Jon saves all that time sequence breaking, then goes back to the area to show off how to get it normally. :P

[@corruleumblue3317]

"Dense with information" is how I like all my LPs. This is no exception :D

[@TheMississippiKing1]

The spice must flow. The new Dune movie is coming out in a few weeks, so that quote feels appropriate since you talked about "spicy rooms."

[@naveMccalle]

I really appreciate Jon showing off not only some skips and sequence breaks, but also the "correct and intended" way through the game. After the first episode, I actually decided to play through Super Metroid for the first time (going for 100% as well). Boy, was I confused about how I was supposed to go through Norfair. In no other Let's Play I've seen of this game have I actually seen someone leave Norfair before fighting Crocomire and getting the Grappling Beam. I was confused on how you were suppose to get to Croco, because I thought that you were suppose to get Power Bombs for the first time IN Norfair. Which led me to wonder why the hell the map room was behind a Power Bomb door at the beginning of the area. Despite my terrible skills, I did manage to get Wave Beam out of sequence; so I managed to get through it, but not without really questioning what I was supposed to have done.

[@Zronium]

There's also a beam screenwrap in the crocomire room. Lining up on the far right wall in the acid. angle up charge shot with wave and plasma will open the door on the other side. for speedruns this caaaaan help movement allowing you to shine spark to the croc pb's.

[@Koushakur]

0:39 Not close, the exact same! You know the R/L confusion between English and Japanese? B/V is basically the same deal, one sign for both sounds (it's not the exact same deal, but properly explaining the nuance is beyond me). So without someone on the Japanese team knowledgeable in English can tell the localization team which was intended they basically just have to make a guess.

[@Schwarzorn]

Tho, nowadays, they DO have a distinct way of writing V (not in the 80s, I don't think)

[@hypoconductor]

@@Schwarzorn yeah, I think they use ヴ or ウ for v to differentiate from b nowadays for some words like vaccine

[@Schwarzorn]

@@hypoconductor Yup. Cuz the Latin letter U is just a fancy curved V. Both are pronounced _oo,_ which is why there are so many Vs in old Latin text, and why "double U" is written like two Vs. W = VV. And that's where someone got the idea to tie the "V sound" (for English speakers) to the kana ウ.

[@leetri]

@@hypoconductor They spell vaccine with ワ instead, actually. Romanized it's "wakuchin". Most people (or at least a LOT) still pronounce words written with Vu as Bu, so I think it'll still take some time before Vu gets fully integrated into the common speech.

[@samy29987]

The first clip of the demo real theater at 1:18:10 shows Samus has two types of runs. A normal run and a sprint. Included for those new players that don't know she has that.

[@Marcirez]

FUN FACT: There are left over enemies within Super Metroids code. * A Yameba like creature called a "Bang" * A Reflective Panel called..."Reflec" * AND a Miniature Crocomire called a "Stoke" I guess they either didn't have anywhere to put em...or because of data limits but they do exist.

[@iantaakalla8180]

The panel reflec but it also attac

[@ironfloret]

Really had to get my wall jumping up to snuff for following along with this episode, haha. I'm determined to do all the sequence breaks shown even if it takes me a while. Haven't hit a wall yet! ...Or, well, I guess I've hit a lot of walls, actually, what with all the wall jumps. Anyway, thanks again for the episode! It's a ton of fun so far both to watch and play along with!

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

34:27 ah, the ol' Spark-Mandrill tactic!

[@DerekZerusBarona]

I damn near choked on my drink at the Bombing Power Hour joke, I wasn't expecting that reference. Love it

[@dockingwater1713]

Tbh, while a lot of people love Super, I'm very lukewarm towards it. As someone who more or less started with the later games in the series, it's incredibly hard to go back to Super for a number of reasons, a lot of which can kinda be seen in this video. First, the scrolling through items. While switching between Missiles and Super Missiles are fine, adding on the 3rd item can be troublesome and the 4th and eventual 5th make it even worse, especially since the GBA games and SR have you hold down a button and only require you to switch between Missiles and Super Missiles where Power Bombs are only active in Morph Ball and any other items being mapped to other buttons entirely. Another issue is map being not too helpful item wise. It's already bad that its impossible to know what items you haven't already collected, but the fact that some items aren't even on the map makes it even worse. Plus, the map also doesn't show how rooms connect, leading to confusing twists and turns trying to get to a certain spot. While most of this only really effect 100%, I much prefer the more helpful maps of the GBA games and SR. That being said, I still can see why people love Super Metroid and I still have a lot of respect for the title and I think this LP will further my respect for it with all of the tips, tricks, and sequence breaks shown off if this video is anything to go off of.

[@baloonman5]

I just recently finished a 100% playthrough of super metroid redux, which fixes the controls, the map, and makes the x-ray scope bigger and faster, and I'm also in camp lukewarm. It just feels so 5/10 on a first playthrough if you know some but not all of the tricks. Like, not bad enough to be frustrating but not good enough to be excited over. I was feeling disengaged as soon as I finished norfair, but kept going because it wasn't hard enough to really irritate me into stopping. I think some of that boredom comes from getting way too strong in norfair, coupled with an insane over reliance on hiding things in random walls. It really felt like they leaned a little too hard on the x-ray scope to hide stuff, because I swear at least a third are just in the ground or wall in some random room or corridor. Again not awful, just sort of bleh if you're not doing a speed run route and you're used to the gba games.

[@Schwarzorn]

@@baloonman5 Oh, shit! I didn't even THINK of there maybe being a mod for the controls. I need that. I can only play it on Wii U cuz the extra customization helps tremendously. Otherwise I'm hurting my hands to play it, and the item selecting is annoying. Otherwise, I love this game. Yeah, later games control better, but they lack the other ways that Super perfected the series: the speedrunning, the sequence breaking, and the insane number of hidden abilities that I'm not sure are all known to English speakers.

[@Dragonpit]

When you initially encounter the Etecoons, the cries they make sounds exactly like the item get jingle from this game.

[@warlink05]

26:15 Man, that joke will be 13 years old. Despite making me feel old, it is nice that was brought up!

[@Ephraim225]

The fabled "Samus Aran Bombing Power Hour" at last

[@DavCube]

The Etecoons also sing the item jingle when you find them. Also I completely forgot that the Drachora is guarding an egg, that actually has continuity with Fusion in itself beyond just saving the animals in general.

[@josevlog945]

OMG THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME CRYSTAL FLASH THAT CLIP FROM THE TITLE SCREEN HAS TAUNTED ME SINCE THE TRG LP.

[@qactustick]

I think it's great how informative you're making this LP. You're not just going through the game, but also explaining what you're doing in a way that even someone inexperienced can understand, and showing things that a typical LPer might skip over for a game this old. Looking forward to the rest!

[@SeraphOfAsgard]

Love that you are back. I remember the "DEATH WATER" episode and I honestly laughed for hours.

[@sealegion4070]

Y'know, the first thing of Jon's I ever watched was meta boss battles, so this playthrough is effectively required watching material for me.

[@SilimSavertin]

Fusion pulls the E-Tank and fake floor trick too, but in a Morphball tunnel instead with the real path to the tank being in the ceiling above. Right before Nightmare too, so getting the tank is REALLY useful because that boss is such a gigantic dick.

[@crowofcainhurst2236]

Speaking as someone who grew up with Super Metroid, I greatly prefer how the Speed Booster activates in this game, but appreciate how much easier horizontal Shine Spark feels to do in the GBA games. I could never quite get it down in Super. Next up is the Wrecked Ship, along with one of my favorite boss monsters in the series.

[@otakufreak40]

For what it's worth, the missile pack at 1:12:20 can be obtained as soon as you get the regular bombs. It requires more of them but it's still doable. Potentially required information for anyone doing a randomized run.

[@ProtonJon]

Can it? I thought bombs didn't work on it and it had to be Power or Screw?

[@otakufreak40]

@@ProtonJon It sure can. I just booted the game up to make sure. I'd tweet a vid to you but I sadly can't capture footage on my 2DS. The wiki also says you can break it with the speed booster using a short charge in the vertical room but the method seems WAY beyond my current skill level.

[@bast963]

You forgot to mention how power bombs piss off Crocomire and make him take several steps forward

[@Fruckert]

The thing with the extending tower things vibrating when you wall jump off of them is on a few other things, notably Spore Spawn's corpse and the skulls with the glowing eyes in the morph ball room. There's some others but I can't recall at the moment. I've spent far too long bouncing off of Spore Spawn to watch it jiggle.

[@quez2564]

One minor gripe is how quickly standard missiles get become quickly obsolete aside from progression obstacles like doors, blocks, etc. In super it's an early as acquiring the Spazer; at least in Metroid 2/AM2R you need them for dispatching Metroids

[@Rexaura888]

Still better treatment than what happens to their utility suddenly plummeting come the final boss in Samus Returns. Standard Missiles may not be useful against most enemies, but there’s some bosses where you’ll want to use that over the slow Charge Beam and even Super Missiles at times due to the rate of fire.

[@quez2564]

@@Rexaura888 Well yes, Phantoon also comes to mind when it comes to holding back on firepower; though for a different reason

[@PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings]

9:25 I remember during that Samus stage during the Adventure feature for Smash Melee I’d always be a nervous wreck because of the time limit. Most of the time I’m not able to make it in time but rarely I’m able to but that is some good info Jon. I’m happy to find your channel and watching them whenever I can and I wished I was able to watch TheRunawayGuys sooner when I was in my Senior year of High School (this was before what’s going on right now) but I’m glad I did (aside from Masae because I was already well into watching her content by then) thanks soooo much Jon!!!!! 15:05 Which is nice of them to do so

[@ryandennison8754]

36:00 on your first playthrough, that map actually reveals a big chunk of Norfair that you missed, pretty much all of it being Crocomire’s lair and how to get there. It’s a pretty effective reveal.

[@Ryotaiku]

In case Jon feels bad about accidentally saying the names of items he doesn't have: Just know that the manual spoils everything already.

[@percher4824]

Seeing Crocomire's death for the first time was an experience. It's surprisingly fucked up.

[@walrus3479]

a lovely way to end the day, watching one of my favourite youtubers play one of my favourite games

[@jermarcusm.robinsonwaller1063]

Hey Proton Jon did you know that Metroid Dread is out "NOW"?!?!?!?!?! And also you're doing a "REALLY" good job in your Super Metroid Playthrough so far!!!!! Finally when will the 3rd Part of this Playthrough be uploaded?????

[@Rexaura888]

Gonna have to come back to this after Disc Only and the rest of Game Clearing, but at least it’s up now!

[@MP2066]

I also thought those looks like the SS Enterprise! glad I'm not the only one!

[@florsch6781]

I just started replaying this too. I usually like to go for early power bombs before Kraid. Kinda risky and tricky, but quite rewarding if you can pull it off. Since it's been a couple of years since I played this, I'm not sure if I can still finish under 3 hours, but should still be able to 100% it hopefully :)

[@Sebby_Nineteen]

So it appears you may not know something about the Demo Reels. There are 4 of them that can play, in sequence. However, the 1st one is actually LOCKED, until you beat the game for the first time. So new players with a fresh cartridge will only see Demo Reels 2, 3 and 4. I feel you should also mention what happens if you try to Power bomb Crocomire. She doesn't like it. You know, its a good thing the SA-X never used the X-Ray scope to search for Samus.

[@TheIvoryDingo]

While Crocomire's death is really gruesome... they technically used the same method to kill Bowser at the end of the FIRST castle in the first New Super Mario Bros. And the bones leftover were then later used during the first castle of World 8 as the debut of Dry Bowser. So I think I'll go out on a limb and say that while both are gruesome, it's ultimately much more surprising that a Mario game did it than when Metroid did it.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

While that's true, to in part play "devil's advocate", I'd (still) argue that Crocomire's demise overall is still more surprising since a) its flesh is *shown* melting off while it struggles and is clearly in pain unlike Bowser's "death" and b) it seems more or less an innocent if scary-looking animal that gets horribly screwed over by our otherwise genuinely heroic character. With Bowser, while _Mario_ games are generally far lighter in tone than the _Metroid_ games, Bowser is at least a villain who made conscious decisions that led to his fate as well as later being shown inexplicably recovering from it because of magic that means he never really died in the first place. So Bowser's fate is just a standard tale of a villain getting hoisted by their own petard due to their own villainous actions--hell, Bowser built the lava pits--even before the fact that it was temporary. Meanwhile Crocomire just straight up horribly dies and *permanently* for the "crime" of essentially being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and even "wrong place" is arguable since Samus seems to have stumbled into its home. [/counterargument] (Granted, Crocomire was still screwed alongside almost everything else on that planet since the Space Pirates are assholes, but that's besides the point.)

[@nate567987]

@@MusicoftheDamned also this was nintendo in 94' when no one died

[@LanceOmikron]

One note about jumping up to the gauntlet by run-jumping off of that little hill: Getting all the way on top of the cliff does *not* require the high jump, but it DOES require the speed booster. So if for some reason you're attempting it without the speed booster (like in a randomizer), run-jumping will not get you to the gauntlet on it its own. However, if you have the high jump boots, it *will* save you a few wall jumps.

[@peanutfish94]

41:06 -> 41:17 Well Jon, don't feel too bad. I didn't know about that either. So, I learnt something new today too!

[@ElectricFortune]

This has been a very satisfying playthrough to watch as your preferred path matches the one I developed on my own as I replayed the game a bunch almost identically, down to the early Wave Beam and sequence breaking past the need to move freely in water. The only major deviations so far have been I did not figure out Mockball on my own so I didn't get the Brinstar Reserve Tank/Super Missiles early, and I usually did beat Kraid before going to Norfair for High-Jump Boots, mostly so that I could do all of Norfair except Lower Norfair in 1 fell swoop. This route is also the route I used to get the best ending in the game while also getting full map completion, so I think you should be good to get the best ending at this pace as well as you substitute map completion for explanation and showing things off. Also, as some other comments have noted, the "1st" demo reel from Part 1 is really the 4th demo reel because it only shows up after completing the game the first time. Thus, the "2nd" demo reel shown in this episode is actually the 1st demo reel from a clean cartridge (or ROM for Wii Shop/NSO/nefarious sources), which helps explain why it's so basic while the demo reel shown last episode showed so many advanced techniques.

[@ImDemonAlchemist]

59:47 I assume you mean that wall-jumping in general feels different in the GBA games, which is true, but wall-jumping does function differently between Fusion and Zero Mission. In Fusion, a wall-jump sends you flying away from the wall, making it useful only either for one jump or going back and forth. Zero Mission's wall-jumping functions almost identically to this game, aside from feeling smoother and being easier to do. It offers some nice sequence breaking opportunities in that game as well.

[@Toomanymareeps]

The Etecoon Walljump room is one of the few with an official name in design documents. "Hell"

[@MasterFenril]

Just got done watching this whole episode. One thing that's kinda fresh in my mind because of that final Super Missile pickup that got shown.... I'm wondering, Proton Jon, master of glitches, if you're going to show off the Death Beam and Ghetto New Game+ glitch, at the start of the next episode. Because that Shine Spark room in the Mother Brain escape shaft is the best place to do so. And since it hasn't been mentioned yet, what about arm pumping? Gotta save those 1 extra frames of animation!

[@tashlester7783]

just found your channel. love metroid please do more 😁 your commentary is refreshing compared to most metroid players who are uptight and overly serious

[@predcon1]

Man, that colour of Gak was the only one I could ever find. Somehow my friends always got hold of the neon orange or the blue, all I could ever get was Mr Clean sponge yellow.

[@Gulyus]

A minor correction at around 46 minutes in - at least in the randomizer, the Larva enemies drop power bombs ammo, not super ammo. Power bombs are also mondo useful in the randomizer, since uh...the randomizer likes to put the morph ball's bombs any and everywhere. I had a seed where the morph ball bombs were in Maridia IIRC...

[@AceWolf456]

I imagine Wave Beam exists because early on the devs went "Weird, the shots go through walls... let's make that a feature!"

[@magicalcapi9148]

"Some people pointed out that I miss some tricks without moonwalk; I can't do dancing" The biggest lost of it all. Jon, how could u And Samus never achieved her dream of dancing a cover of Michael... One day honey, one day...

[@magicalcapi9148]

Wait, had Jon show how to do the pose at the end?

[@dreddbolt]

Ah. So THAT's how you do the Crystal Flash. Okay.

[@krullachief669]

Man, this is really shaping up to be a series I can fall asleep to with no problem at all. Which is very good, there's only so many final fantasy randomizer races on youtube, after all. But for real this is like, the perfect comfy series form you, Jon. That and the Kirby video. 11:30 If we wanna talk about fun experiences in Metroid, this room is the one that taught me out to wall jump. Just because I got really tired of those moving platforms. And uh, Grapple beam means nothing.

[@NECROcade]

i really hope jon does more of this

[@Robscurity]

I just got back from a funeral ....you have no idea how much this upload means to me right now.

[@Eliott-K]

The amount of joy the return of the Samus Aran Bombing Power Hour brought me is immeasurable

[@darienb1127]

With how many missiles you get in a Metorid game and how powerful your beam usually gets, I wish that were more things to do with missiles. Like imagine a late game update that lets you shoot just a volley of missles at once, or convert reserve Missiles into Supers. I know Prime 1 had some upgrades that used a bunch of missles at once, and I think it would be cool to see more upgrades like that

[@skydiamsteam6005]

You do have Storm Missiles in Dread now

[@Jus5402]

After the Donkey Kong LP, I was expecting this to turn into a randomizer half way through.

[@Zegaexiron]

I saw Crocomire's death before I saw any fatality in Mortal Kombat. My jaw dropped when I saw a friend beat him.

[@SilverFoxR]

I gotta say, Jon... I'm glad you saw the Trippers like little Starship Enterprises, because I thought the exact same thing as a kid. Glad we're both not insane XD One tip I want to mention (I'm pretty sure it works in Super Metroid) is that, if you come out of the spin state while jumping, I think you can get back into it by pressing the jump button again (possibly while holding a direction). If so, it'll help save a wall jump section. And, one final thing that wasn't mentioned is that the Etecoons actually sing the "item discovery" jingle when you meet them.

[@Myne33]

I always called Rippers “Float Roaches”, and I love that name. I hope you choose to show off the Murder Beam combo! Edit: if you have Plasma before Draygon, like in a randomizer, you can use X-Ray to microwave Draygon to death.

[@Rexaura888]

I believe that trick works against any boss that is hurt by the (Charged) Plasma Beam. Most cases I’ve heard are Golden Torizo and Ridley proper.

[@ghostofriddles3409]

So an update (seeing as though I'm extremely late on actually watching this, as per usual) is that the "microwaving" actually requires the beam to be able to pass through the enemy in question, making Ridley immune to it since the beam can't go through him in any capacity even if he takes damage

[@CractusJohn]

37:06 heh heh, “cool” sound effect. Emile would be proud

[@shadowdemon1375]

“Dense with information” Yeeeeeessssss.

[@ShadowKnux372]

Nothing better to see than a recommendation of a new hour-plus-long Jon video, except an hour-plus-long Jon video on Super Metroid to ride that Dread hype train.

[@JustCrazyDK]

Proton Jon Plays Super Metroid (Metroid Dread HYPE) EP.2 Totals;This Episode Health Lost : 3229;2181 ShineSpark : 1566;1566 Items Gotten Normal Get : Missiles Packs: 18;12 Energy Tank : 6;3 Power Bombs : 6;6 Super Missiles : 2;2 Grapple Beam,Ice Beam,X Ray Scope Sequence broke Items : E-Tanks : 3;2 Reserve Tanks : 2;1 Missile Pack : 10;6 S.MissilePck : 2; Power Bombs : 1;1 Spazer,Wave Beam Items used : Missiles used : 112;37 S.MissilesUSED: 59;26 Power Bombs : 37;37

[@meganmartin3373]

Thank you very much for explaining one of the few things I'd never managed to learn from watching speedruns of this game: _what the hell the intended sequence after High Jump was supposed to be._ Somehow I just could not, for the life of me, grasp that the Crocomire Power Bomb tank was not the "alpha" Power Bombs, that there was another tank that didn't require you to already have Power Bombs to reach it, or that the Crocomire Power Bombs are "locked" behind Grapple which is itself locked behind Power Bomb access. Looking forward to next week when I'll finally get to learn which Maridia entrance is the one you're meant to take.

[@Bowy3]

30:03 That's just one of those jumps that always feels so cool to do.

[@vanesslifeygo]

Satisfying lol

[@richardwithanarr]

28:45 "what you'll care about the most" killing that one boss that grabs you by grappling the big balls of electricity on the walls of the boss room, electrocuting them to death? "finally grab those plus icons" oh. 😑 right. that.

[@runman624]

I wonder if he'll talk about that you just need to grab onto something to electrocute him and not just the energy sphere considering he actually discovered that when he did the hack

[@ivant.w.9152]

I've been playing this game for almost 30 years and I never knew you could shoot a missile up to kill the fleas either.

[@AndrevusWhitetail]

I love how those lava seashorses are called Dragons.

[@Vexal50]

Since this is starting to happen somewhat frequently in this video, my "favorite" gripe with this game has been shown off: Unmarked items on the map. I have no idea why they did it, besides maybe to sell guides.

[@cdigames]

I love that you called out the Billy Mays room by name. Made by night.

[@bartsneezin]

For the trick at 25:55, I never knew you could just jump up there haha. The way I always did it was to lure the respawning bugs up high by jumping when they start to rise, and then freezing them so they BECOME your platform. But running a little and jumping is way easier

[@eeveecurry]

Oh, back in high school I made a little pendant of Crocomire's skull! I want to uh... If I can find it at any point I'll post a pic of it to the booru. I was really proud of it ;w; I also call it 'Seh-rez', English is a weird and inconsistent language and as far as I'm concerned the mispronunciation sounds better. And makes mores sense. >:T

[@pious83]

30:41 Alternatively, just Shinespark at the end of the ramp. That's what I did... Never knew you could Grapple beam off those enemies.

[@Frostbyte115]

You didnt heal at the recharge point? Emile is tossing in his bed from this. I'm kidding lmao but that made me laugh with how OCD he was for that.

[@newdonktimes2034]

I managed to do get the wave beam when TRG was playing the game. I just had to prove that I could do it for my first time.