SUPER RARE ENGINE Hidden In A Barn!

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@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like he really likes Fords, got some cool stuff laying around. That 427 SOHC is a beast.
@jedscott6561
@jedscott6561 5 жыл бұрын
What Harley forgot to say is that after Mopar saw the SOHC 427 they started developing a DOHC Hemi, and that's when NASCAR put an end to both engine before they could make it to the big oval. Only 2 DOHC Hemi's were made and one was on display at the big Indy trade show this year in Indianapolis.
@contactstaff4819
@contactstaff4819 Жыл бұрын
Yep Hemi built a twin overhead Hemi 😅
@WS-gw5ms
@WS-gw5ms 5 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anything like that. Absolutely amazing. Thanks for keeping this historic motor alive.
@stephenshoemate6678
@stephenshoemate6678 3 жыл бұрын
Dove Engineering bought everything from Ford pertaining to the SOHC 427, lock, stock, and barrel, including all rights. They redesigned the ports, among other improvements, or so I read. The visitor mistakenly called it a dual overhead cam. It wasn’t just made to compete with hemis, it was made to slay them! Rated at 616 hp,@7,000 rpm, with carburetors, on gasoline, it would have brought grandma’s station wagon to life.
@mikerobbins5049
@mikerobbins5049 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy when I was a young teen that had a 64 Galaxy with the 427. I still remember what it sounded like idling. Not sure it was this same engine or not but it sure sounded wicked...
@jimearnest4342
@jimearnest4342 4 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how that motor sounded live! That thing is badass!
@saltwatersaddletramp7229
@saltwatersaddletramp7229 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing sounds better than a big block Ford. Beautiful engine!
@michaelmays9292
@michaelmays9292 5 ай бұрын
Exept a big block chevy
@spencerfinley4520
@spencerfinley4520 3 жыл бұрын
Fords had so much more Innovation in those years . Something about the cobra jet stuff and the cammer stuff is just old school cool
@atribecalledcookies6thru284
@atribecalledcookies6thru284 5 жыл бұрын
The sohc engines are rad. I have a 66 427 side oil medium riser engine on my stand out of my old 64 galaxie 500 xl. Fun engine, they always broke the drivers side engine mount, i had to chain it to keep it from breaking mounts.
@keithlane4343
@keithlane4343 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Bow-Tie guy thru and thru, but as a machinist / engine builder, that has got to be one of the coolest engines ever. Thank you for sharing
@vegahowell5813
@vegahowell5813 5 жыл бұрын
You saying that is rare and unusual
@makattak3550
@makattak3550 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a 60s racing Ford with the sohc motor, called HemiHunter. Of course, they had way more power than a Hemi.
@patmclean1951
@patmclean1951 5 жыл бұрын
Your cameras sound system was not prepared for that bark!! Wow. Greatest sounding engine out there!!
@HIGHOUTPUTable
@HIGHOUTPUTable 5 жыл бұрын
I think i'd pitch a tent there , Being around all those old Fords would feel like Heaven to me . . .
@andyharkness4172
@andyharkness4172 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Harley For Your Service and God Bless You
@bobuncle8704
@bobuncle8704 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing engine. I’ve only seen one in my life. Was just reading an article the other day, and it said there’s no clear record at Ford of how many were made, but the number is apparently over 1000, but less than 1500.
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas Жыл бұрын
Nice to know, thanks for the info Bob.
@johndean2925
@johndean2925 2 жыл бұрын
It is so nice to see, hear and almost smell the automotive history you bring back to life. You should consider visiting some old airports...Planes like classic cars almost seem to have souls and certainly stories to tell...Thank You!!!!!
@fordknutt
@fordknutt 5 жыл бұрын
SOHC stands for Single Overhead Cam, not dual overhead cams. One cam per head.
@dweynezedicher8427
@dweynezedicher8427 5 жыл бұрын
Mike G63 mi name is Eddie Zedicher I like you show everybody thinks it’s kind of funny I laugh about it nothing like raw power you go pop a lot out of a diesel five more than people think all depends on the condition the motor is and how big your terrible you feel like stuffing on top I got a 1958 Chevy pick up 32 Apache stepside pretty awesome check out Maire Facebook got a lot on there. My dad’s pick up keep it up looking gooda share a blind my dad is gone but I’m completely restored it it’s not stock that it’s rated three stroker I’m putting on it with a turbo 400 trance
@jr6587
@jr6587 5 жыл бұрын
@@dweynezedicher8427???????????
@JubileeValence
@JubileeValence 5 жыл бұрын
@@jr6587 Whewee!! Yeah I think Dweyne here has English maybe for his 3rd or 4th language and WOW that one's the dickens! But I'm diggin' on that he's bolting up a turbo 400 onto something in that sweet old stepside so let's hope he can maybe fit some disc brakes on that thing somewhere!? Cheers! Let us know Dweyne!-JV
@JubileeValence
@JubileeValence 5 жыл бұрын
@Fire&Ice909 Short version: Sorry but I'm not into your alternative lifestyle so no thanks. This is just some folks sharing thoughts and opinions on really interesting topics regarding auto restorations, customization and fabricating etc. I doubt the channel host would appreciate having a lot of weird negative banter going on and on so I'll leave it at that-not interested-but keep searching maybe on google instead of youtube as I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for right? Cheers!-JV
@imoovabull6042
@imoovabull6042 5 жыл бұрын
its still classified as a twin cam. if it had two per bank it would be a quad cam.
@lskiller1903
@lskiller1903 5 жыл бұрын
The 427 SOHC's Nickname is the Cammer. The timing chain is nearly 7 feet long both cams turned in the same direction. Because of this mechanics learned that they had to advance one cam 4 to 8 degrees more than the other to make up the difference in the chain links slack. The 47 Flathead Mercury engine is 239 ci. But the Lincoln Flathead is where it's at 1949-51 and the 1948-51 F7 and F8 big trucks they were 337 cubic inch.
@XEGTDodgeMagnum
@XEGTDodgeMagnum 5 жыл бұрын
That's what we always called them. Cammer
@MrADVANCEDTEK
@MrADVANCEDTEK 5 жыл бұрын
the Cammer was rated at 612hp with a single 4v carb if I remember. I cringed at the 1.25 mark when he said it's dual overhead cam lol!
@lskiller1903
@lskiller1903 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrADVANCEDTEK You know Ford built the Cammer in 90 days from start to finish late in 1963 after they realized the 426 hemi was making its debut in 1964. The reason Bill France didn't let Ford use it was the over head cams, he said it was to much like European engines and he wasn't having any of that period. Bet he turned over in his grave when his Grandson let Toyota into NASCAR.
@MrADVANCEDTEK
@MrADVANCEDTEK 5 жыл бұрын
@@lskiller1903 No I didn't know that. Yeah he probably would but maybe he'd turn when Dodge brought back the whole muscle car era retro cars by bringing back the Hemi. I think it's great to have high horsepower cars again. Just can't afford them.
@juliecallaghan8592
@juliecallaghan8592 5 жыл бұрын
Ummmm didnt he say ..it was a single cam??? Then why is it a seven foot long cam chain???
@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus
@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus 5 жыл бұрын
Love the SOHCs, one of the best looking engines ever made. I believe that most or all of the parts are available new reproduction to convert a 427 wedge to an SOHC.
@CowboyCarCrushing
@CowboyCarCrushing 5 жыл бұрын
"427 Wedge" you know so many people have know idea what Hemi means. Wedge....yeah right
@stephenshoemate6678
@stephenshoemate6678 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think it can be done. Oil drain holes are relocated, and timing chain cover areas differ.
@edmai6451
@edmai6451 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldve been an awesome Battle, "Cammer" vs "Doomsday Hemi"
@chocodiledundee1
@chocodiledundee1 5 жыл бұрын
When I read “Rarest engine “ I though if I watch it and it isn’t the 427 SOHC I am gonna give this dude a serve .....man well done you didn’t let me down you know engines , Australian guy from NSW named Paul Munro used to build the best replica in the world .... he even went to USA borrow one and did all the tooling ...
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 2 жыл бұрын
302 tunnel port, 351 Mirage, 3v 427 Calliope, SOHC 289, DOHC indy turbo, BOSS 494 CanAm. Cammers are nowhere near the rarest Ford motors 👍
@Elmo_Fuddleputt
@Elmo_Fuddleputt 3 жыл бұрын
As a dyed in the wool fan of The Mighty Blue Oval I have long been a fan of these motors but when he fired that thing up, WOW!! I saw one years ago at the Daytona Beach Turkey Rod Runs but it was parked and I didn't get to hear it run. Thanks for the turn on.
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 3 жыл бұрын
Those SOHC engines were supposedly 650hp, right out of the crate. Awesome.
@chadkent1241
@chadkent1241 3 жыл бұрын
616 hp with a single 4 barrel 657 hp with dual quads as per Ford's literature
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, the 8 barrel engine is underrated. Dyno testing is inconsistent, but a fully restored motor owned by Tom Fry made 740 hp with zero deviance from the original spec. Some older, worn down ones with the single barrel option did make the advertised 610ish hp.
@MoondogBongwater
@MoondogBongwater Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpvIemhmf7umrs0 this motor in this video sold for $140,000 on bring a trailer recently
@ronhodgkinson7683
@ronhodgkinson7683 2 жыл бұрын
How cool is that. I'm working on a 59 Buick nailhead now. I'm a motor guy and really doesn't matter what type. The most enjoyable ones are the old ones. Good luck with yours and I'll keep track.
@KeeperofTheMountain
@KeeperofTheMountain 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up dreaming of having that motor. It was and is the ultimate Ford motor of all time. I am not sure the Coyote motor will ever achieve the legendary status that the 427 side oiler SOHC motor has.
@robwhitehead9602
@robwhitehead9602 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason that the coyote motor won't achieve legendary status is ford of the 427. I have a 5 liter in my truck and it is a monster. In the old days if you had a 5 liter with 300hp it would be pretty lumpy.
@KeeperofTheMountain
@KeeperofTheMountain 2 жыл бұрын
@@robwhitehead9602 Exactly, The legendary 1929 Mercedes SSK had a 430 CID inline supercharged 6 and was the fastest production car of the time. It had about 125 hp. It topped out around 120 mph. The last time one of them was sold it fetched around 4 million US.
@GorillaCookies
@GorillaCookies 5 жыл бұрын
SOHC not DOHC. I have a cammer in a 55 Fairlane Club Sedan with a Tremec 6 speed and 3.73 gears. Fast ? Fast doesnt describe it. Only car thats ever gave me a shiver when accelerating. Ive no idea of top speed but I know its well above the posted speed limit 😜
@lieugebo805
@lieugebo805 5 жыл бұрын
What a goof
@seedlessgrapes2605
@seedlessgrapes2605 5 жыл бұрын
@@lieugebo805 what a CANADIAN
@seedlessgrapes2605
@seedlessgrapes2605 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one hell of a ride what state do you live in? Some states have a posted speed limit of 80 LOL also just noticed your name does gorilla cookies for like Gorilla Glue and Girl Scout cookies?
@edge2sword186
@edge2sword186 5 жыл бұрын
That's because those engines will rev till the blow up and the pushrod engines would not back then .
@GorillaCookies
@GorillaCookies 5 жыл бұрын
@billyfromtheusa I dont. I have my grandfathers 55 club sedan he bought brand new . The cammer came out of a estate sale I stumbled across some 15 years ago. I purchased cammer equipped 61 galaxie that had been drag raced in the late 60s and early 70s. The Galaxie was more rust then car by the time I found it. I got it for $3500 and dropped the cammer in my grandpas 55. I honestly had no idea what the value of it was at the time. Although I knew it was worth more then the $3500 asking price for sure. But If I could do it over again I would have fixed the galaxie's rust issues and just left the 55 original. Ive actually not rebuilt it or done anything to it other than oil change and induction clean up and run the devil out of it. Its a bunch of fun and estimated to be in the high 500 to low 600 hp range . Its very healthy and has a bad habit of melting rear tires . Its probably in need of new timing chains and followers. But I will have to find someone with significantly more knowledge than myself to inspect it
@deeharris9635
@deeharris9635 3 жыл бұрын
Steve does run across some cool stuff. I like the videos. Just as good as his show Welder up.
@Thomas63r2
@Thomas63r2 4 жыл бұрын
I still have a factory Ford 427 SOHC engine manual - what a fantastic engine: factory rated at 616 hp in 1965. The engine in this video is a mix of new and old parts, not sure the Dove block etc. qualify as Ford parts. I've seen many more than two of these engines - Steve needs to get out more often! This engine is like AC Cobras - many, many more reproductions built than originals.
@steveanderson5888
@steveanderson5888 5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching welder up for a couple years on TV I'm glad you're on KZbin because I got rid of my TV anyways great find I'm sure you going to make that into a nice nice ride
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 3 жыл бұрын
To me, that looks like paradise out there. I love the desert, I love old cars and trucks and junk, and I love my peace and quiet. No neighbors, thank you.
@SlipFitGarage
@SlipFitGarage 5 жыл бұрын
In 2012 Sonnie Herbert (Tommy Grove's daughter) had 2 of these engines for sale. One of them was brand new, still on the pallet and wrapped in plastic from Holmen-Moody. They were posted for sale on the classic funny car website. They didn't take long to sell..... An offical price was never posted but the last post in that thread said "the buyer and seller are both very happy". Edit: I just went back and re-read that thread.... they were asking $125,000 for the new engine, and $80,000 for the used one. Within two hours they had two offers, one from a NASCAR team owner who wanted the new one for a Mustang. The final sale price, or buyer's name were never posted.
@patrick-ro8bi
@patrick-ro8bi 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the cammer… absolute legend of an engine
@83pgardner
@83pgardner 3 жыл бұрын
A Chrysler engineer once told me it was the greatest motor of all time. It’s potential was unlimited.
@chadkent1241
@chadkent1241 3 жыл бұрын
Ed pink himself said with a stronger revised block the heads were great enough that it would still be relevant today
@davidjenson8124
@davidjenson8124 3 жыл бұрын
Not true. The block was weak
@xerolift
@xerolift 3 жыл бұрын
they had 2 weak links. the main bearings and the block but you won't run into either problem until you start making 4 digit horsepower numbers
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidjenson8124 We just put chrysler 426 bearings in
@alejandroledesma8060
@alejandroledesma8060 3 жыл бұрын
Yet it handles as much as 1,800hp bare block with EASE
@erniecamp6945
@erniecamp6945 3 жыл бұрын
The most aesthetic parts of this great and rare beast are the valve covers with four spark plug holes and wires along there longitudinal centers indicating hemispherical combustion chambers. We did not get any good shots of them in the video. SOHC stands for single over head cams not double over head cams Steve said twice . He was corrected by the owner the second time. The rumble on the start up saved the day. Thanks for the rare glimpse of the rare beast. I am looking forward to a follow up of this project.
@chrismedders7739
@chrismedders7739 5 жыл бұрын
That 427 is definitely badass, from the factory they pushed around 685hp with a single 850cfm carb and and dual carb set up was around 745-750hp...I’ve only seen 1 and it was a original motor but it was put in a cobra kit car lol
@danielwilson6665
@danielwilson6665 5 жыл бұрын
They were available as crate engines from Ford. The 4-V (single Holley four barrel) was rated at 616 horsepower. The 8-V ( dual Holleys) was 645 horsepower. Those were conservative Ford power ratings that were typically on the low side. It was fairly common for buyers to upgrade to aftermarket cams and valve train components right away for improved durability and substantially higher horsepower than stock.
@gordomiguel1931
@gordomiguel1931 5 жыл бұрын
*Ford 427 Cammer produced 616 horsepower with single four-barrel carburetor and 657 horsepower with dual four-barrel carburetors
@chrismedders7739
@chrismedders7739 5 жыл бұрын
Gordo Miguel-ford also underrated their hp figures to make insurance cheaper, some of their SVT cobra cars when put on a sumo was over 500hp but Ford said they only had 400-450
@danmcelroy6584
@danmcelroy6584 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Ford man but, that engine sure sounded sweet to me! Wow!
@FireItUpGarage
@FireItUpGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet engine. I've got a perfect spot for it in the '72 Bronco I pulled off a farm the other day.
@PhaQ2
@PhaQ2 5 жыл бұрын
Get a Ford Barra motor from Australia for that Bronco.
@richlagace6904
@richlagace6904 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy but man that motor looks friggin awesome!!!! I'd love to see that old panel truck he had in my driveway all done up!!!! Hell yeah you should do a old panel truck build. Would love to see it
@amazin1827
@amazin1827 2 жыл бұрын
Here's some RARE for you!.. GM 3892675 GM 3892690 GM 3917291 GN 3892673 I nice little mouse motor 11:1 compression Factory Race Motor
@codyfeatherstone553
@codyfeatherstone553 5 жыл бұрын
427 is beautiful btw that thing is a beast 💯💯💯
@flyovercounty1427
@flyovercounty1427 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a sweet project. My Flatbed Ford Fordoor has a 378 cubic inch Cammer, fuel injection, oil cooled pistons...
@69VFVAL
@69VFVAL 5 жыл бұрын
From my knowledge ford never used this engine due to the long timing chain & drag racers loved it but they hated pulling it down to checking the chains for stretch. I love them & l would love to own one. I'm a mopar man but you have to respect that ford monster. That sound is the sound of death coming for you
@stephenshoemate6678
@stephenshoemate6678 5 жыл бұрын
They used it in racing in Europe, and drag teams. NASCAR wouldn't let it race, no matter how many were built and put on production cars, so they dropped the idea. That was all that killed it.
@mattcorke6544
@mattcorke6544 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like this is where the coyote spun off of
@PrivateEyeYiYi
@PrivateEyeYiYi 3 жыл бұрын
The SOHC 427 is nostalgic and puts out a ton of power but the current Ford Coyote is a double overhead cam V8 with 300 cubes that puts out 480hp. Inch for inch the smaller engine puts out similar power and is no doubt easier to maintain. And you don’t need a barn on a remote farm to be able to start it up without scaring the neighbors. Although you could.
@lucianmoon7755
@lucianmoon7755 5 жыл бұрын
You popped my cherry cuz ive never seen let alone heard one b4 so thanks for that.
@rtroll7762
@rtroll7762 2 жыл бұрын
Anything called “hemi killer” I love it!!! Blue oval for life✊🤘🏻
@JohnDoe-xm9ql
@JohnDoe-xm9ql 5 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears... Thank you Steve 👏👏👍👍🇺🇸
@thejackofalltravels8267
@thejackofalltravels8267 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen 2 of those engines in 1967-1968 mustang fastbacks only one was running. This was 1992 I didn’t believe what I was seeing at the time LOL.
@dougoverhoff7568
@dougoverhoff7568 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when my uncle, who was a Ford Exec., came to pick up my Dad and brother, and myself in a 'new 63 Galaxie, just a nice, big car, to take us all to a ball game. My Dad was a Buick dealer at the time, so there was a bit of a rivalry there, I guess. My uncle was somehow connected with Ford racing at that time, and with the parts division, and he always had some 'prototype' Demo that he drove. I guess it was supposedly for the "testing" or "examination" purposes, (wink wink!), as for the street application and performance features for these new designs, etc. Anyway, he had cars that weren't available to the 'public'. After backing out of our driveway, he looked around at us all, and with a sly grin on his face, he put it in drive and punched it! It only lasted just for a few seconds. But, WOW! That was no "stock" '63 Galaxie, I can tell you. I was only 14 at the time, but my face lit up with a huge smile, and so did my Dad's. I wish I could remember the exact words that were spoken between them, but I'll never forget that moment of exhilaration and surprise. Looking back now, after seeing this video, I'll bet anything that it had that 427 engine in that Galaxie. That was so cool, I can't ever forget that moment of when he hit the accelerator, and those rear tires just lit up on that big Ford. As totally unexpected as it was, that was my Uncle Benny, and his way of showing his big brother up, I guess. This video just helped to bring that memory back to mind, so THANKS!
@warpmine1761
@warpmine1761 4 жыл бұрын
There's no replacement for displacement
@markshepler7525
@markshepler7525 3 жыл бұрын
Great story thanks ive had a few
@Polack-ml9fh
@Polack-ml9fh 3 жыл бұрын
Just ran across this post. Where about did your story take place?
@dougoverhoff7568
@dougoverhoff7568 3 жыл бұрын
@@Polack-ml9fh Town and Country, MO. A suburb of St Louis.
@jimmyhawkins5357
@jimmyhawkins5357 3 жыл бұрын
A mechanic at Valley Ford in Hazelwood MO. Had a 63 Galaxie 427 I was 16 at the time. It was a bad ass car.
@jasonaldenhaley1
@jasonaldenhaley1 4 жыл бұрын
OH MY F-N GAWD....that is a symphony....music to my ears when he fires it up. FUCK YEAH
@crashburn821
@crashburn821 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I was lucky to find a 70 torino 4 door sedan with a 429 cobra jet with 60000 mi original! He out did me for sure!
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 2 жыл бұрын
Four door CJ! You are lucky.
@robmacfie7988
@robmacfie7988 5 жыл бұрын
That motor sure got its fair share of drag racing. The Snake, Sneaky Pete Robinson, Connie Kalitta, and a whole bunch of other racers. Rare Ford motor. Nice!!
@BackyardClunkers77
@BackyardClunkers77 5 жыл бұрын
What's more rare than this is.... Chrysler's answer to that particular ford engine was in 1969- Chrysler hemi engineers produced 2- 426c.i. "DOHC" hemi. (Double over head cam)... Hemi. It had two separate camshafts up on top the cyliner heads, with a timing belt set up, one single massive 4barrell carb. One motor to my knowledge was sitting in a ware house up in Michigan. The other 426 DOHC hemi is sitting in the corner of a garage at one of my dad's friend's house in upstate NY. I got to see the motor personally- sitting on an engine stand a while back. I highly doubt my dad's friend would ever sell it. He's a mopar nut, as well as myself & my dad too.
@gary23jag
@gary23jag 5 жыл бұрын
You’re almost there, I think the engine you are talking about was made in 1964 it was double overhead cam and 4 valves per cylinder, and as much as l don’t like to admit it, had the makings over the Ford.
@MrBillysolomon
@MrBillysolomon 5 жыл бұрын
with that particular intake.... 657hp 557lb. ft. of torque 615/515 with a single carb intake. great find! thank you
@Mick_A_Knuckle
@Mick_A_Knuckle 3 жыл бұрын
Except that this engine is stroked, with different carbs, cams, and compression. Plus can probably rev a bit higher due to Crower crank and rods.
@domingodelgadillojr.68
@domingodelgadillojr.68 5 жыл бұрын
That motor sounded so good man it's cool that you can do all that my dad used to build cars when I was young unfortunately my wife takes everything
@trillrifaxegrindor4411
@trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 жыл бұрын
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@trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 жыл бұрын
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@domingodelgadillojr.68
@domingodelgadillojr.68 5 жыл бұрын
Jk
@seedlessgrapes2605
@seedlessgrapes2605 5 жыл бұрын
Lose the Wife
@fredfrench7614
@fredfrench7614 3 жыл бұрын
I went to the Welderup tour in Vegas 2 years ago and had a Blast! You guys are Awesome!. Ive been a car guy since I was 8 years old helping my Dad work on cars doing engine rebuilds and changing transmissions and rear ends and brake jobs and just about anything to do with cars. When I was 15 I worked at Central NH Parts Exchange in Concord NH dismantling cars and trucks with Snap on Tools and the old faithful Acetylene Torches! Im turning 65 next week and my next project is a 95 chevy S 10. I want to find a body to put on the S 10 frame. Keep up the good work! You inspire all of us! Freddy in NH!
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Freddy! Sounds like you had the kind of job history I enjoy. The S 10 will be a rewarding project. Thanks for the nice comment and thanks for watching!
@dandannels8821
@dandannels8821 5 жыл бұрын
THANKYOU that is the 2 engine the first was in A mustang boy there was a full engine bay bin a fan for years keep it up and be safe👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🛠⚒
@dennishicks8962
@dennishicks8962 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that thing is a monster. I used to have a 68 Torino GT with a 390 but man that motor would have been amazing in that car! Thanks Steve for all the great videos?
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for watching Dennis!
@dennishicks8962
@dennishicks8962 2 жыл бұрын
@@WelderUpVegas coming to Vegas and will definitely be stopping by the shop! I can’t wait to see all the deco inside. Seems like would take a while just to take it all in
@ALABAMAHEADHUNTER
@ALABAMAHEADHUNTER 5 жыл бұрын
Not only rare but a beautiful engine .
@aaronmcconkey338
@aaronmcconkey338 3 жыл бұрын
As a ford guy, it makes me nut.
@johnnycole7990
@johnnycole7990 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the 429 boss was the rarest , I've been wrong before... Awesome find
@10kamala
@10kamala 3 жыл бұрын
429 Boss is rarer than this but this is still rare. There were more than 500 built.
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 2 жыл бұрын
This is barely scratching the surface of rare muscle era Ford engines.
@digtheseblues4284
@digtheseblues4284 5 жыл бұрын
Ford built roughly 1.000 SOHC 427 engines in 1965 with the intention to run them in NASCAR. None were installed in production vehicles, so NASCAR naturally said no, as it was still somewhat stock car racing in those days. Since NASCAR had let 426 Hemis run in '64, though none had ever been installed in a production vehicle, Ford protested and boycotted for '65, I believe. NASCAR told MoPar at some point that they couldn't run the Hemi, either, till it was available in a stock production car. They, in their turn protested and boycotted, I think their's ended up being in '65 too, but could be wrong about that. MoPar was smart enough to eventaully offer the Hemi in production cars, and could race it. By the way, among the many informational mistakes in the video, one is that Fords had no chance against the Hemi, which the records testify against. In '64, Hemis made the Daytona 500 their playground, but 427 Fords won 49 of 55 total races that year, and took the manufacturer's champinship one of the many times they would during the muscle car years. The old non-cammer 427 would fight MoPar for championships until '69, when the Boss (or Shotgun Hemi) 429 would take over. Since Chevy's 427 wasn't very competitive, FoMoCo and Mopar traded the championship back and forth until about '74, when everything went far from being about stock cars. Cammers ended up being raced by people like "Ohio" George Montgomery, Don Prudhome, Connie Kalitta, MIckey Thompson (his drivers, who dominated '69 TF/FC, were Danny Ongais and Pat Foster), Pete Robinson, "Dyno" Don Nicholson and many others in drag racing. "Sneaky" Pete Robinson, in fact, developed what the Cammer sorely needed; a gear drive for the cams. I don't know or remember if anybody got the rights and kept producing it. Not likely, since there were so few SOHC 427s to begin with, and Ford had dropped the whole program when NASCAR said "no". The cams Ford made for the Cammer were not "nitro" cams. The aftermarket made nitro-specific cams for the TF dragsters and funny cars running Cammers, Crane Cams in particular. You could, however, get a hell of lot besides just nitro suitable cam grinds, and still can. All it takes is money, and for a Cammer 427, it does take a lot.
@trevorwilson5461
@trevorwilson5461 5 жыл бұрын
Thats roughly 1000 in 65. There is at least 2500.i own 5 myself that I have been wading through swamps to get after i bought my first one in a64 Marauder back in 93.and an elderly gentleman in my town has 2.one in a 500 Galaxy and one out of a cobra.and i live in a little town on the east coast of Canada. I wouldn't be surprised if there was 5000 in total. Thats 7 in a town of 20000 in New Brunswick. The most i paid was 800 Canadian dollars for one.but I paid 13000.00 for my Marauder in Concourse condition back in 93
@eman99a
@eman99a 5 жыл бұрын
@@trevorwilson5461 I was at the Street Rod Nationals in mid 70's in Minneapolis. There was a group of at least 5 cars with SOHC motors.
@dannmarceau
@dannmarceau 5 жыл бұрын
@@trevorwilson5461 As with most youtubers they have to draw in the crowd with sensationalism, I'm nearly 60, nothing much to see here that I haven't seen for many years.
@stevehicks8944
@stevehicks8944 5 жыл бұрын
According to Ford, 150 "Sock" engines were built, period.
@therealist4006
@therealist4006 5 жыл бұрын
Great info man, thanks!
@JohnW1711stock
@JohnW1711stock 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy has two sets of Ford SOHC, "Cammer" heads. He still occasionally, races his original 64 Thunderbolt. This is the father of the Coyote 4 cam engine. You drove past a 58 Edsel 2 door Hardtop!
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@donaldleavy4379
@donaldleavy4379 3 жыл бұрын
You blew the wind out of his sales when you said that will blow away any hemi ,and it will That’s A Fact.. it’s a 600 HP factory Race Engine.. so.. Yer 425 hp hemi ain’t gonna cut it.. now retune it to 800 hp with cams & 12.1.1 .. he’s got it rite detuned it’s 500-600 hp nice
@scottadams9226
@scottadams9226 3 жыл бұрын
I've actually seen 2 of them also. I know someone who has one. They are something special
@prancstaman
@prancstaman 5 жыл бұрын
I seen one of those Ford 427's in a Mustang at a Summit car show. Badass for sure!!
@BigMountainCustoms
@BigMountainCustoms 3 жыл бұрын
Not an easy task. I shoe-horned one into a 67 Mustang which needed shock towers removed, front frame rails boxed, independent front suspension conversion, much heavier front spring weight, heavily massaged firewall..... The list goes on.... But, trust and believe, once it's greased up and squeezed in, there's no other powerplant that makes you smile as much.
@dieseldabz7104
@dieseldabz7104 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigMountainCustoms You obviously haven't driven the Hellaphant
@garykirkland927
@garykirkland927 3 жыл бұрын
@@dieseldabz7104 the hellcat would just be a little kitten.
@lorenzomaximo1818
@lorenzomaximo1818 3 жыл бұрын
If you look in the 1968 Ford muscle parts catalog you can see 427 Cammer Could be had for $2395 minus accessories. What a bargain compared to today’s prices of $40-$50,000.
@jasonritter2492
@jasonritter2492 5 жыл бұрын
I'm strictly Chevy but I'll say this is a awesome find. I not gonna say city or name, but I know a old man who has one in Indiana. He has over 100 collector cars in mint condition. Cool find and build
@darellsunderlin4670
@darellsunderlin4670 5 жыл бұрын
My first pickup was a 1936 Ford with a flat head V8 , aluminium two duce intake , didn't like working on it much but loved to hear it run.! :-)
@misconceptionindustries2968
@misconceptionindustries2968 5 жыл бұрын
Back when Ford built cool stuff! That engine is a work of art!
@AZCobraman
@AZCobraman 5 жыл бұрын
Right, the new DOHC 760hp motor going in the new GT 500 is boring as shit....
@willefixit
@willefixit 5 жыл бұрын
@@AZCobraman lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mikewiley1007
@mikewiley1007 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome shot looking through the cab at the junkyard as you drove through it. 🤙🏽
@gabeackerman4964
@gabeackerman4964 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy, but a 63 1/2 galaxy with one of these in it....factory built race cars. Damn they are gorgeous cars
@TiborRoussou
@TiborRoussou 5 жыл бұрын
My dad had a 65 Galaxy 500; don't know what was under the hood. I was 8.5 when he died (1977). Lord knows where the car wound up. Would have loved to have inherited it!
@lestermiller2717
@lestermiller2717 5 жыл бұрын
Oh ma god I’m blown away, I can truthfully say only once before did I ever see one of these cars for sale. Way back in 1971 could of bought the car for $1,200 no one really cared or wanted them back then. Now it’s worth more than my home ha ha.
@paulolson734
@paulolson734 5 жыл бұрын
About 25 years ago there was a Ford performance shop in Santa Fe Springs, Ca. called Ford Power Parts. For several years they hosted a small, low key car show once a year. I worked for a truck dealership just down the street from there and went to the show a few times. One year Jay Leno pulled up with a friend in a Cobra. I don't recall if it was a kit car or not, but he raised the hood and left to see the cars and mingle. That Cobra had a 427 SOHC with 4 Webers on it. Hands down the most bitchen Cobra I've ever seen. Light blue, side pipes, (Halibrand?) magnesium wheels, the works. Sure wish I had a camera with me that day.
@explosives101
@explosives101 5 жыл бұрын
He drag raced a Tesla with that car in an episode of Jay Leno's Garage.
@x_Mobile_x
@x_Mobile_x 5 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful thing I've ever heard, or seen. Thank you, Steve.
@joeysplats3209
@joeysplats3209 4 жыл бұрын
"Runnin' outta time for the dreams I got..." I know how you feel.
@kornami8678
@kornami8678 3 жыл бұрын
Spark plugs are in the intake side of the heads instead of the exhaust side. Really cool.
@scottm.franklinnc7942
@scottm.franklinnc7942 5 жыл бұрын
He fired that engine..I was like holy sht ...gotta say that's one heck of a rollback you got. will give you a 👍and a scriber also😊
@alonzowitt5931
@alonzowitt5931 2 жыл бұрын
This Ford motor is called the 427 Camer!!! This engine was not the competitor to the Mopar 426 hemi. The Ford 427 Thunder Bolt was the competitor to the hemi. And it did it's job at 500 HP stock.....
@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808
@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808 5 жыл бұрын
Now I have saw 1 in my life ! Thanks Steve
@roynelson7613
@roynelson7613 4 жыл бұрын
Harley is one cool cat man Hey brother what you guys been up to in the garage you been building anyting crazy hope everybody's doing great just sitting around watching some cool videos my brother👍👍👍👊👊
@phillipward937
@phillipward937 5 жыл бұрын
Mario Andretti won the Daytona 500 with a 427 SOHC, after the race NASCAR told Carol Shelby not to bring that engine back to any NASCAR events. Back then to run a car in NASCAR there had to be 500 cars equiped with the engine for it to be a stock car.
@randykirchhevel7311
@randykirchhevel7311 5 жыл бұрын
The 427 SOCH had too much horse power as well nobody else would be able to keep up.
@amc401nash6
@amc401nash6 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I hate about the internet, people posting urban legends with little actual historical merit. Yes Mario did win the 67 Daytona but the car used a conventional 427 FE engine and it was part of the Holman-Moody racing team. Carol Shelby was not involved.
@benkoch7729
@benkoch7729 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your show steve, keep it up! Also i own a 63 fastback galaxie that i pulled out of the weeds and put back on the road ( stock 390 car). So i hope to see more of the cammer in harleys 63. Thanks, Ben in Pa.
@williamstanfield1216
@williamstanfield1216 5 жыл бұрын
Holman/Moody was the outlet for Ford performance parts.
@billammann9807
@billammann9807 5 жыл бұрын
Both the engine and the 34 chassis, are rare finds. Yes, a thumbs up for both.
@Schnot
@Schnot 5 жыл бұрын
I Knew it had to be the cammer before I even tapped the video. That engine is what dreams are made of.
@camgnilpe9300
@camgnilpe9300 4 жыл бұрын
schnot WOW that is very impressive. put a gold star on your forehead!
@reyobmekim
@reyobmekim 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this available to us poor schlubs that no longer have cable.
@rodneybrentgray7251
@rodneybrentgray7251 3 жыл бұрын
I built a plastic model of this. It has a 6' timing chain Weights 600+lbs
@donellmuniz590
@donellmuniz590 3 жыл бұрын
"Wouldn't be nothin' to get this thing up and runnin'". Yeah, for YOU! 🤣 For me, it would be like building my own Space Shuttle 🙄😕.
@danwarn5356
@danwarn5356 5 жыл бұрын
Just call it the "SOCK" motor like the old school hot rodders do, that owned & worked on 'em. Anyone that's been around 'em enough knows the timing trick, because the 7' timing chain. No lag, instant throttle response like it's got a roots blower setting on it.
@michaelvarble4392
@michaelvarble4392 2 жыл бұрын
Some of us called it the sohock
@boltonky
@boltonky 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks Steve and Harley. That's a beast of a motor and can tell its duel overhead by shear size on heads and its probably chain driven....crazy Sure is some gems out there
@paulolson734
@paulolson734 5 жыл бұрын
Single Over Head Cam (SOHC). 6 ft long timing chains. Badass engine. When NASCAR found out it was in development they outlawed it, not wanting an escalating power war between manufacturers. It was never put in a production car. Many of the few that were produced wound up in drag racing (Connie Kalitta's Bounty Hunter comes to mind).
@carrolannethompson3947
@carrolannethompson3947 5 жыл бұрын
Love you're back! Hot damn, the produce is always fresh in the desert, eh? SUB'd! SO like it !! Thank you!
@1970-p6d
@1970-p6d 5 жыл бұрын
I worked for an engine shop where the owner had one in a crate brand new never fired when he sold the engine shop he loaded that crate in his truck and drove off into the sunset. It'll probably be found in a barn someday as he stated it's priceless.
@haraldpettersen3649
@haraldpettersen3649 5 жыл бұрын
A real splendor of a V8, but the green tank (truck) I liked very much, Mad Max had nodded smiling had he seen it.
@bigbear5510
@bigbear5510 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen this video before or at least the footage. That's the third one of them engines that I have seen. One was in a NASCAR prepped Fairlane and the other one was in a 1/4 mile car. Both were in a museum/personal collection back in the mid to late 70's, not sure where it was located, somewhere in the northeast, PA, NY or NJ. My grandfather knew the guy who owned the cars & he took me along to see them, I was like 6 or 7 at the time, if I'm not mistaken. He had pictures of us there with the cars but I don't know what my aunt did with them.
@garykirkland927
@garykirkland927 3 жыл бұрын
Ford should come back with that engine now and put it in a mustang. The hellcat wouldn’t be nothing against it. The 427 Ford was the meanest thing out there at the time.
@alejandroledesma8060
@alejandroledesma8060 3 жыл бұрын
A 6.8L Windsor is coming in the 22-23 mustangs and f-150s.. hope they revive the SOHC 427 for the gt500s and throw a supercharger on top!!
@robertsnyder5149
@robertsnyder5149 3 жыл бұрын
Gene Porter of Bellevue Lincoln Mercury used to race one of these in his 1968 Mercury Cougar at S.I.R.
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Rollback man, right on point...
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 4 жыл бұрын
Im happy to have grown up in a time when we could appreciate muscle cars and big motors.
@jacobkite5497
@jacobkite5497 5 жыл бұрын
robert pond motorsports repops the heads,block and timing covers now so anyone can make a 427 cammer
@richardtruesdell8289
@richardtruesdell8289 3 жыл бұрын
Also John Kaase makes campers.
@richardtruesdell8289
@richardtruesdell8289 3 жыл бұрын
cammers
@danw1955
@danw1955 4 жыл бұрын
That 427 SOHC Ford is a nice little piece of history! I'll bet it will cook the tires on that Galaxie when you get it finished!😁👍
@danohstoolbox
@danohstoolbox 5 жыл бұрын
great video brother love the job ur doing I do miss that kind of work I used to restore mopars for years I really do miss it now i just have this little channel and I am loving it keep up the good work brother
@dustinblair8017
@dustinblair8017 5 жыл бұрын
We have a soho 427 my dad truck pulled years ago and we still have the motor today. Ford FE engines is the best stock 620 hp with one carb and no black smoke just straight power
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