Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - Heavy Moveset Showcase [FANMADE]

[@N3Knowledge]

I'm going to use this comment to address some more common suggestions/criticisms. Questions like "why does he not have a blu alt?" or "why didn't you give him the eviction notice for the rapid jab?" are common, so if you have a question you think multiple people asked, I probably addressed it in this comment. If you have a question I didn't answer here, I may put it in this comment if it's a common enough criticism. Also, there's important information in the description you might want to look at. Here's the suggestions: 1) Why is his Up Special not the Grappling Hook? 2) Why does the final smash not have all of the Mercenaries? 3) Those alts are pretty wack. 4) Why does he have a rapid jab? 5) Some of his moves feel uninspired. 6) Why does he do a flip when double jumping? Responses: 1) I wanted to make his up special the grappling hook since I conceptualized this moveset in mid 2019. When Byleth came out, that came with the second tether recovery in the DLC pack. With that, I thought that it wouldn't be the best idea to keep the recovery a tether, but I couldn't think of anything else, so I just rolled with it, and I wanted to give the hook it's TF2 properties. Here was my idea: the hook would target the ledge when possible, but you could also grapple players. When you do that, the opponent isn't stunned, but you retract your hook towards the hooked player as a moderate speed, which basically means you can ride the player as they move around, which can be a great help when recovering, and once you reached the player, you could influence the direction the player was knocked away with your left stick, and follow up with an aerial of your choice easily. I was nearly finished animating this recovery when I told some people that this was my idea. Quite a few people weren't happy with it, saying that both Byleth and Joker having a tether would make the inclusion of one for Heavy annoying and stale. Then, Reddit user u/AFltngShpngLst gave me the idea for the recovery you see in the video. I thought it was an amazing idea, so I scrapped my original idea for the up special entirely and designed the up special to be an altered version of Mega Man's recovery. This way, I could incorporate all of the TF2 mercenaries into the moveset by having one of them randomly show up whenever used, which was a relief, since cramming all of them into a final smash just wouldn't work (it also allows for their presence in competitive matches, since final smashes aren't a thing in competitive). I understand that not using the grappling hook just seems like skipping out on something obvious, but it ended up being a part of my motive to keep this moveset as unique as possible when compared to the ideas other people had on Heavy's moveset. Update: Now Min Min gave us the 3rd DLC tether lmao. 2) As much as I would like for it to be that way, there will be big problems no matter what. Look at it this way: there are multiple final smashes where the main character is joined by their party members or alternate versions of themselves, helping the main character in the final smash, but they never do anything more extreme than what the main character does. For example, in Shulk's final smash, he is joined by Dunban, Riki, and Fiora, but they all just slash whatever melee weapon they have on the opponent. In Ness and Lucas's final smashes, they are joined by their friends from their respective games, but they just stand there. In Mega Man's final smash, you have a bunch of different Mega Men alongside the main one, plus Proto Man and Bass, but they all just fire their lasers at the opponent. These final smashes work because the joining characters do things that aren't too off character, and the final smashes, as a result, are adequate lengths. In TF2's case, the mercenaries all have such different types of play styles and ways they attack, that there are really only 2 ways to go about the final smash. One, you showcase all of the mercenaries and the ways they can attack, like Scout with constant jumping and shooting, Spy with backstabbing, Demoman with pipes and sticky traps, etc, but giving enough time to show off each character means that you end up with a final smash that would be something like 30 seconds, which is way too long. Cramming all of their unique fighting styles into a 10-12 second scene would just make it too crowded and overwhelming. The other way is where they just stand there and/or shoot. This makes a final smash that isn't too long, but it would just be boring/underwhelming. Having the mercenaries just stand there for support or to just fire their weapons without any flair to show how they play just wouldn't be true to the mercenaries. You could remove some of the mercenaries to make a final smash like the first one work, those being Spy, Engineer, or Pyro, but not including every mercenary would just be unfair to the ones not included. The reason I went with Medic alone is because the Heavy-Medic pair is so iconic, that you can just have that and get away with not having the other mercenaries, especially considering that Medic would be the only true support, done through the use of the Medigun. In hindsight, I think the best way to handle a final smash for Heavy is to incorporate some randomness to it, kind of like Sephiroth. I’m thinking that the final smash would call just one of the mercs at random. For example, the final smash could call in Soldier and have him rocket jump around and maybe market garden the opponent over the span of several seconds which leads to a final minigun firing by Heavy. Another example could be Spy, and have him backstab the opponent in some sort of dark cinematic, which again leads to Heavy firing his minigun. Another example could be Medic… which could just be how it is in the video. There are many ways to handle this, and this would be another way to include every mercenary without being too cluttered, which up-B tries to accomplish as well. 3) Indeed they are. knew from the start that the alts would be a touchy topic. There was just so much to pick from that settling on only 8 wasn't easy at all. First off, I thought that giving a TF2 character an alt that was just a color swap would be a sin, but I understand why having a default BLU alt would have been a good idea (yes, I understand I had BLU heavy in the video a lot, and didn't have him as an alt), or for every other alt to be a BLU one. Having the Police, Robo, Jotaro, and Bird alts be BLU could have worked. The reason I went with mostly RED alts was because I thought of this idea of being able to switch to a BLU version of your alt by inputting a button combination when selecting said alt (like when selecting the Punch-Out version of the Boxing Ring stage), or have it be based on if you're player 2 or not. You may think that it may be too convoluted, but I prefer this system for Heavy. Second, yes the Commie, Jotaro, and Bearded Expense alts are unrealistic, but that's the point of having these more obscure options. If I just settled with default RED, default BLU, Robo-Heavy, Gibus Heavy, Bird Heavy, Yeti Heavy, Princess Heavy, and Unicorn Heavy as the alts, it would definitely work, but that would just be kinda lame and generic in my opinion. There needs to be some more “out-there” alts to match the obscurity of the cosmetics in TF2. Some of you may think that I should have gone for all of the easy alts, some of you may think that I should have been even more “out-there,” but I know what we all want is to just pick any cosmetic and throw it onto Heavy to use (maybe use some sort of Mii Fighter system for cosmetics). 4) Partly because I'm a Mac main and rapid punches like that are cool to me, and partly because Star Platinum strangled me and forced me to give it to him. I feel like I could have handled that much better, either by giving him the Eviction Notice as he rapid-jabbed, or just by not giving it to him at all. 5) I can't really force every move to reference something, or incorporate weapons into everything. Heavy's TF2 gameplay is pretty simple in nature, just shoot gun, eat food, and punch people. He's gotta punch sometimes, because that's what Heavy does sometimes. Any references that were obvious to you guys were just ones that unfortunately flew over my head. Also, to those who are asking why Heavy, a big dude, has fast moves, then tell me why Bowser has a frame 6 command grab. 6) The only reason I have him a flip in the air was so I could just give him a bit more flair in the air. What I should have done was have him flail his arms and legs in small circles, kinda like he tripped over the air or something, or maybe even try to implement some crouch jump mechanic.

[@spinachkale9392]

I really liked the recovery. It was smart way to include the mercenaries. Whenever I think of a recovery for Heavy, I always think of the teleportation spell, and maybe if it hits a player you swap with them.

[@N3Knowledge]

@@spinachkale9392 Nice idea, sounds a bit broken, though.

[@dangerousdoings8066]

Personally, I like the idea of all the mercenaries being in the final smash. Heavy could like run and tackle people, and whoever he tackles is put into some place, preferably dust bowl. Then, all the mercenaries just start shooting at the victim, as sentries pop up around to aid the team. The mercenaries are in front view, below the victim who is sprawling in the air. It ends with Heavy then running towards the victim as all their ammo runs out, with Heavy just crushing the victim with his fists. Another thing would probably be Down Special. Sandwich feels a little odd, probably working better as an item or a taunt. An Ubercharge mechanic similar to Cloud’s Limit Break might work better. The Medic will pop up and start charging Ubercharge (of course without any actual healing). When the gauge is full, pressing down special again would make Heavy invincible (besides from pits, water, and crushing) for about 6-10 seconds, all while giving him a more powerful moveset akin to Joker. The gauge is a little slower than Clouds.

[@whyhellothere9822]

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[@N3Knowledge]

@@dangerousdoings8066 I can see that final smash working. I feel like I just BS'd myself into thinking having the whole team in the final smash wouldn't work, idk. That down special idea is actually pretty cool, but I feel like it would take the campy aspect I feel like Heavy might have now and take it to a whole new extreme. I would prefer going one way or the other on the full guage: invincibility or a buffed moveset. Both sounds a bit too unbalanced.

[@mr.cannotspeedpogo1004]

Love how the parry is a flash of Ubercharge

[@alexbluecyndaquil]

Same

[@silvertotodile6958]

What makes this better is that it implies that getting a final smash would make him LOOK Ubercharged, fitting of the final smash itself

[@TaurusTheCrazyBull]

The Medic may have performed surgery on Heavy before when he got the invitation... or the Medic is just always to the side of Heavy where we can’t see him with an Uber burst ready for when Heavy parries so he doesn’t take any damage when parrying

[@Idkwhatiam]

Your pfp should be a taunt

[@muzzledbee6952]

Same

[@beansauce9430]

Joker reveal: for his neutral special he wields a g u n Heavy reveal: for his neutral special he wields a G U N

[@N3Knowledge]

Joker Gun: Who are you? Heavy Gun: I'm you, but B I G G E R.

[@thisisntausername5724]

For his neutral special, he wields S A S H A

[@blackettfamily]

For his neutral special he wields a MANN’s Gun

[@briandavidgilbertclips7223]

He wields MORE GUN

[@yesno2697]

Joker's Gun: You've taken everything from me. Heavy's Gun: I don't even know who you are.

[@kulekid6917]

if a smash direct ever opens with "some people think they can outsmart me", everyone in the entire universe is losing their mind

[@alastor8134]

Whats funny is heavy is one of the smartest mercs He even has a phd in Russian literature

[@Andmau2552]

@@alastor8134 Yeah idk who messed up, if comics writers or the game devs, but tbh comic Heavy is way more menacing and better written overall.

[@lewis9s]

The only thing is Heavy is a western character... maybe at least Mii? Idk if TF2 is as popular in Japan as it is here.

[@doomyboi]

@@lewis9s They made an Exception for Banjo-Kazooie, and that franchise was arguably on a worse decline than TF2 at the time.

[@peregrinus524]

@@Andmau2552 Well you can put an emphasis on "Think they can"

[@GorDude]

Perfect Scenario: Heavy gets in smash to promote The Heavy Update.

[@wyld_wolfwin]

We'll have to wait for the next smash game then

[@cryojack1337]

@@wyld_wolfwin why must you hurt me in this way

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

Heavy for Smash. Please spread the word.

[@Swooplind]

If that ever ended up being true, I'd never ask Gaben (or sakurai) for anything ever again.

[@suum1962]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJS8oJuom9h9gJo. Smash in ten years

[@itzlinquwlinquw7373]

other fighters: *do a cool pose as a victory pose* Heavy: *calls the entire tf2 cast to pose*

[@alfredjeffersonii2063]

They all came to support him. They are happy Heavy received an invitations ^^

[@stuff5757]

@@alfredjeffersonii2063 except for Scout who would be jealous of Heavy

[@RuberFN]

Stuff seems legit

[@tposingsonic3412]

You know, if heavy is part of the winning team in team battle the victory screen would be him posing with the rest of the team, you know, the other fighters who won too

[@SrHiroo]

Steve: *H O U S E*

[@mechanicretro9963]

Heavy: * double jumps * Scout: *uhhhh...*

[@zappy2000]

If scout got in he would likely have a triple jump

[@television3272]

@@zappy2000 secondary idea he uses the soda popper boost and has various jumps like kirby/other flying characters

[@MajorasWrath1]

Scout taught him how. Like how Ness's friends taught him his smash PK moves (he can't learn them in his own game)

[@Yougotcaged102]

*chuckles* I'm in danger

[@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901]

"Ah crap..."

[@aprettyfunnyperson4516]

For his neutral special, he wields a gun. And if that don’t work, use more gun.

[@brunodiaz4726]

now i want every class in that smash thing

[@xingyuzhao8666]

@Javen Gamboa YATATATATATA YATATATATATA KA-BOOM

[@flufferfluffierman]

G U N

[@flufferfluffierman]

W E N E E D M O R E G U N

[@Gnappopo]

*shoots gun in texan madman*

[@joebradburnii]

You know, the TF2 theme works amazingly well for the end of a game.

[@N3Knowledge]

I know, right?

[@Yahiamice]

This is hella well done!

[@user-rl1ks7py9z]

Cool you’re here

[@airo5952]

i didn´t expect to see you here

[@Deiloillo]

Lol, what are you doing here!?

[@nightyboyo]

fuck yeah it is

[@calm1686]

dude make videos we only saw you 1 month

[@alexrecrem9094]

"Heavy, it's pauling" "PAULING! WHY IS THERE PLANT?" "oh him? He's the administrators boss. Play nice with him"

[@HATVAULT]

"Heavy, it's Pauling." *"DAAAGH!"* "Heavy? Is everything alright?" *"TINY PINK BALL MAN ATE SANDVICH!"*

[@assassingamer5983]

This can unironically work better then palutena's guidance

[@levin_sword8297]

@@assassingamer5983 And significantly better then Snake's Codec

[@aprettyfunnyperson4516]

“Heavy, you look mad. What’s up?” “Why little masked child allowed to have gun and not Heavy?!” “Well, that’s Ren, codenamed Joker. He’s a member of an organization that calls itself the phantom thieves. They’re incredibly sneaky and leave next to no trace behind. My guess is that he smuggled that gun in. Besides, you have Sasha, don’t you?” “Sasha is not just gun! Sasha is beauty! Heavy wonders if little baby Joker’s bullets can outsmart Sasha’s.” “Well, how about we find out? Go get ‘em, tiger.” “Very well! IIIINCOOOMIIIIIIIIIIIING!”

[@alexrecrem9094]

"Pauling! Pick up!" "Hm? Oh sorry heavy. I was talking with palutena." "Who is this baby man with wings?!" "Hm? Oh that's pit. Guess that's why palutena had to leave early."

[@cavvaldiv5536]

For his final smash: Heavy: Are you sure this will work? Medic: Ha ha, I have no idea!

[@inciniratr8445]

ÜBERCHARGE! You smart cookie!

[@mako_happy]

Ubercharge then barrage of punch or sasha

[@jamesbond3w]

Haha would love to see this if they plan to reanimated this

[@asgbrazygocrazy2132]

Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh I am bullet proooof

[@リュウセイ-z6k]

How about "All-class combination attacks"? Scout & Pyro: check attack Demoman & Soldier: bombing attack Engineer: Sentry gun Sniper & Spy: Head shot Finisher is Medic and Heavy's "Uber full burst!!"

[@onlinenerd8553]

7:29 that's so clever and nostalgic

[@ThatCynicalPoet]

I've never even played TF2, but your concept honestly makes me want this character now.

[@dingdong1005.]

I have played tf2, and GAH DAMNNN DO I WANT HEAVY

[@Ocean_Man205]

TF2 characters are pretty good. But it's what the community made them into that people consider godlike

[@frog7814]

Nate D please play tf2 it’s the best game I’ve ever played

[@Clonehelmethole]

Froggy Gamer he’s right you should play it

[@lilcrippie5927]

It's free too

[@bulldowozer5858]

Heavy: * has doubble jump * Scout: "I can NOT believe this. Now seriously, you all suck!"

[@rowho8380]

*No seriously

[@WesleyTRVOfficial]

Scout: *This did not just happen!*

[@-YELDAH]

Fat scout 2.0 is better than scunt 1.0

[@CitrusThings]

Love that I can read it in his voice

[@markus_378]

*Freakin’ unbelievable!*

[@redfox4220]

7:29 legit gave me so many happy feelings

[@John-ek4xc]

Yes

[@Chiefspartan117.]

same here

[@TheEngineer28]

Is nice

[@raresdraghici5033]

Epic

[@xdman347]

Dude same

[@HexaSketchi]

Dude, that Final Smash startup is genius.

[@4lvy23]

-Steve is a very requested fighter for Smash. -He's now in Smash. -Heavy is a very requested fighter for Smash. -??? There's still hope.

[@stanfordpines9004]

hes likely to be in smash but demoman is likely to be fun in smash

[@Yougotcaged102]

He would fit in well for sure

[@theinternetpolice2078]

Heavy needs to be on a nintendo console first TF2 switch port when

[@Ratciclefan]

@@theinternetpolice2078 when was Cloud in a Nintendo console lol

[@Frozen_Ketchup]

@The Internet Police Joker is from Persona 5. A PlayStation exclusive game. Cloud is form Final Fantasy VII. It took nearly 4 years for Cloud to finally appear on a Nintendo console that wasn't Smash. "Oh but Joker appeared in Persona Q2 and Cloud appeared in FF Theatrhythm, both on the 3DS" those games since they were merely spinoffs and not the main game they appeared in. If thats the case, Bridge Constructor Portal is a Valve game that appeared on the Switch. Not a TF2 game but still a Valve candidate isn't out of the question. That just means a character like Gordon Freeman is very viable. A character doesn't have to be on a Nintendo console to be viable. Also Banjo and Steve is proof enough that even western characters are viable.

[@derpz5569]

The reveal trailer should be like this: Joker pulls out his gun and kills someone with it. Heavy then appears behind him, and laughs in a menacing manner. “Your gun is for babies!”

[@cuphandle]

And then spy kills him from behind

[@cuphandle]

And then spy joins the battle

[@catlord4746]

Bonk

[@lockheedac-130ugunshipspoo3]

"annoying ass bastard bonks the battlefield!"

[@gelitonman1753]

I sy it should be, Joker gameplay, and in between one of the matches you hear "Heavy I've got work for you" While there's a ticking clock and then Joker finishes his opponents and Heavy creeps up behind him and goes "Come, we fight like men!" And the TF2 theme song plays as Heavy's smash intro card pops up. Gameplay begins

[@Elementals227]

Just imagine like "Yeah I main Bearded Expense in smash" lmao

[@N3Knowledge]

That’s a string of words I never thought I’d hear, but here we are.

[@sirbunny12]

Bearded Expense is everywhere

[@maxkoob]

i like how hes represented as doing a tpose in the thing

[@commodore7331]

this is the future i want to live in

[@Irish_Enderman]

I would main Pootis bird

[@GoopRoppongi]

7:29 that end screen was epic

[@ggabesz01]

Secret Bearded victory screen: just standing in A pose and floating towards you.

[@N3Knowledge]

Make it like Giga Bowser and just have the camera super far away with A Pose Bearded just standing in the right corner.

[@someman66]

And the chicken Invaders 2 theme playing full blast in the background.

[@TurtleExplosive]

@@someman66 or the king of the hill song

[@cmanhanks1]

OMFG YES! XD

[@MrMilky-ek1wb]

oh christ no please

[@Nube-Gamer]

7:29 ok that victory screen would be awesome

[@silentzephen6779]

I agree

[@justdery17]

A G R E E D

[@NestorNKD]

The only problem is that the only ones that appear of the mercenaries are the soldier, the spy, and the demo

[@ariuspierre7875]

what would happen in team battle tho

[@mojoe5115]

@@ariuspierre7875 Since the other mercenaries are kinda behind heavy maybe the rest of the team would just stand in front of them, if its multiple heavies then they would just have to spread the teams out alot

[@BucketsGaming23]

Imagine losing to heavy online because of lag and his win animation is just him laughing

[@nightyboyo]

MAX BM

[@mageking860]

Wario already does that

[@Shinyarc]

Time to drop the home button-x-a combo

[@demenetori7976]

is this tf2 or super smash bros

[@This_is_a_username]

*laughs in wario*

[@compatriot852]

I'm glad that Sora was added to Smash, but Heavy really deserved it more

[@Sighy318]

You are absolutely right man

[@watchpointoh3354]

@InfiniteSouls Are we forgetting Waluigi?

[@watchpointoh3354]

@InfiniteSouls You just offended a lot of people, but ok.

[@a1marine105]

​@InfiniteSouls yet dr mario is in game

[@Deltanium2080]

​@infinitesouls42 Knuckles and Zero when

[@FamiliarGecko]

When Kirby copies Heavy, he should wear the Ghastly Gibus!

[@anonamous936]

Y E S

[@NEORandomMan]

Nah, if they ever add Heavy into Smash, it’s gonna be his bullet belt.

[@FamiliarGecko]

@@NEORandomMan Maybe both?

[@stuff5757]

Both bullet Belt and Ghastly Gibus

[@stuff5757]

Imagine seeing Kirby with a mini gun that's bigger than him

[@Rosen.stylus]

We’ve yet to see if sephiroth can outsmart a bullet....

[@N3Knowledge]

Too bad Zack couldn't.

[@betastar6494]

@@N3Knowledge AWW REALLY?

[@N3Knowledge]

@@betastar6494 I couldn't not make that joke.

[@squared2178]

@@N3Knowledge This is illegal

[@dudenamedzelda3179]

@@N3Knowledge So Heavy is smarter than Zack?

[@mechanicretro9963]

4:19 End of the line viewers: "Hey! I've seen that before" Smash: "what are you talking about? This is brand new"

[@Dracoward]

End of the line viewers: load mini guns with Russian intent.

[@Wafflyy]

Bruh

[@Ability-King-KK]

I think what makes the opening part so great is the surprise factor. If this were a real Smash Bros. trailer, you don't who it's going to be just yet as it remains dark and somewhat silent after the Smash Cross opens up. It's only when Heavy starts speaking that people will start losing their minds. The only other "Heavy in Smash" fan trailer that's on KZbin immediately tells you that it's going to be Heavy getting into Smash. No surprise, no speculation. It kind of takes the fun out of it.

[@gojizard704]

Yea this is by far the more creative way to do it. I like the idea of the smash logo opening and you see a silhouette not sure what it is until you hear him speak just screams hype mode.

[@alexbluecyndaquil]

Heavy should have muttered "Sandvitch" when he's asleep. that would have been funny but this is amazing none the less!

[@mrdeadmemes]

"heavy feel funny..."

[@cybernurgle6413]

Yes (sandvich)

[@andredominguez3199]

Just like Richter says "Dracula" in his sleep.

[@alexbluecyndaquil]

@Malzatron Oh yeah! I didn't realize

[@MrDarks-uc9he]

No, have him say "poot poot poot" and maybe "Sandvitch" while he sleeps

[@_sargentocoelho_4441]

"I'm heavy weapons guy... and THIS, is my invite"

[@purplechaosemerald6187]

Scout: Is basically kind of a big deal Soldier: Rocket jumps to victory Pyro: Believes in magic Engineer: Builds the defence Spy: Is right behind you Demo man: Charges into battle Medic: Saws through the competition Sniper: Has a plan to kill everyone he meets Heavy: Has yet to meet one who can out smart bullet

[@charKT-7461]

Sakurai: denies all of them because they simply wouldn't fit in Smash and that's a fact I'm sorry for such a negative comment but it's true.

[@purplechaosemerald6187]

This comment can’t stop me because I can’t read

[@charKT-7461]

@@purplechaosemerald6187 I can't spell either.

[@PK-yk7ep]

Charkit r u talking about the characters themselves or the reveal quotes?

[@charKT-7461]

@@PK-yk7ep the characters.

[@Notactive157]

Dude this is genius I’m really impressed with your work!!!!!

[@JeremyBX]

0:32 I love that move. It hard to pull off without it backfiring, but it’s worth mastering it

[@N3Knowledge]

It takes MKLeo-level skill to pull off such a high risk move. Ice Climber de-syncs and Peach float cancels got nothing on this.

[@ajduong]

It's safe on shield, so it should work in neutral

[@winnyy100]

It’s so hard man..

[@irishman9550]

I tried it once and nearly died

[@dinkthegreatest]

Moral of the Story: Don't stand still as a big target

[@champagnesupernova1839]

POV: You're watching a smash direct, waiting for it to start. The starting soon screen fades to black, and after a brief period of silence, you here one thing and one thing only: "Some people think they can outsmart me."

[@champagnesupernova1839]

Queue a Heavy in smash montage, ending with "Maybe... maybe. I have yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet."

[@Garbo_trashcan]

Let's be honest here. Heavy would break the internet in half in a few minutes.

[@asgbrazygocrazy2132]

And then at the end of the trailer you hear Hehehe cry some more And then it shows the hole team as the outro that would be perfect

[@champagnesupernova1839]

@@asgbrazygocrazy2132 lol yeah

[@taiteraide]

I would lose my shit

[@kryptonetic4959]

Imagine being at EVO when everyone pops off as someone lands the down taunt with heavy.

[@pieyo_II]

Imagine being at EVO is the statement

[@pr12rhodesgraveyard26]

@@pieyo_II imagine EVO...

[@fireangel2275]

...but... My wacky woohoo pizza man...

[@crisismoon880]

7:29 This actually made me smile

[@nourk9772]

I dont even play Smash or have a switch, but I want heavy so bad in Smash!

[@galegopaulista4564]

Same here

[@kopv1827]

@Christian Edwards but you have a smash icon weird

[@niksuss2480]

Same

[@jinnans_gd]

Why. What the fuck is that homunculus doing in a fighting game

[@Ratciclefan]

same

[@khoucacola]

“For his neutral special, he wields a gun.”

[@davidprz3461]

Menacing

[@infonit0409]

@@davidprz3461 If you play team fortress 2 it wouldn't be so menacing (unless you are playing pyro)

[@rens4450]

and if that don't work, use more gun

[@shiroindo8687]

That would be too op so I'd suggest it to be a final smash kind of move

[@khoucacola]

@@shiroindo8687 it's in the video

[@headless3014]

My idea for the final smash: Heavy throws something at the opponent or launches the opponent, and the opponent falls into a hole. The camera looks up and we see all 9 mercenaries pushing the bomb cart into the hole, the bomb falls and explodes, with the mercenaries at the top dancing/celebrating

[@Angel_h_f3D]

Epic

[@kingcreeper1388]

Nah Uber charge

[@grayski3324]

@@kingcreeper1388 Well, the original post is pretty good. It shows the rest of the team helping out, the payload bomb exploding, and shows how a dance can break out easily in TF2.

[@MrIsleNFair]

its beautiful ive been imagining it for hours

[@TheChannelOfDR]

Hhshdiejbzalsbcbxbsksk

[@Floridadian]

5:48 everyone respected him after that

[@DrCoeloCephalo]

The victory animation with the rest of the TF2 team is probably my favorite because then you can have other Smash characters in a team battle all pose with them. Heavy laughing is also good because Wario can laugh with him.

[@Pelichus]

What about the first one?

[@engineeermaybegaming8029]

@@Pelichus well for the kazotsky kick idk, if in the team the other do the kazotsky kick as well it would be funny

[@hatcrab4923]

3:10 Family Guy Bearded Expense Stock Death Pose moment

[@pinkmoont4788]

😳👊

[@TranslationHell]

yo Pietro Grif in smash brothers???

[@suarez9108]

I’m inclined to believe that Bearded Expense is actually a mythical creature that guards nails in a Pharaoh’s tomb

[@necrodudeqwhale5558]

“This proves my theory that bearded is infeact Peter griffen.....from total drama island”

[@TheFortyAnomaly]

**loud screaming**

[@waffleduck1573]

Let's be real. If this happened, everyone would freak out beyond belief.

[@Owen-ey2gh]

If they can freak us out with Banjo Kazooie, then they can freak us out with the heavy. I hope anyway...

[@sethsnake9446]

You've seen how people reacted when a Sans costume was added

[@Mowdown]

Yeah but after 1 week it‘s gonna be normal just like Sans Costume

[@LittleCart]

@@Mowdown I doubt that the hype would end that soon. Heavy in Smash would mean he's the first originally western IP to be a fighter AND a fighter whose game isn't on any Nintendo console.

[@venezolanoanimatios5863]

to be honest i think if they give one invitation but as a contract to solitude of all nine mercenaries would be outstanding but like: some people think they can outsmart ¨us¨ and maybe broda, don´t dat can happen but, they can think. But the true is mate. and this come from all of us partner. That still have to meet someone outsmarts our bullets and then a light turn on revealing of the gang. and heavy say: and this - pulls out a smash letter and screen goes black- is our new job

[@HammMann]

The dream's dead everyone. pack your bags, let's go home.

[@Bluebird_Productions1906]

🏠🏃🚆🚕🏃💼

[@gojizard704]

Bruh there's always next smash

[@cefxsd40m-29]

The stunned should be a BONK!

[@alexbluecyndaquil]

or when he gets stunned but a little bit more tired

[@nickspencerfishingrodd2383]

true!

[@anandlarson2134]

i was thinking it would be better as the boo/humiliation time effect

[@Jothomas214]

7:29 BEST VICTORY POSE (IDEA) EVER

[@funnybone6149]

Nothing better than hangin with the bois

[@Nehfarius]

It's the most classic of classics.

[@artisticsolarninja]

@@funnybone6149 you mean "Babies"

[@gonzaxdbruh8622]

@@artisticsolarninja"Entire team is babies!"

[@dylanrobicheau-rl8pf]

I definitely like that victory pose too if the heavy was in smash bros 7:29 should definitely be one of his victory poses who’s with me

[@SheepyKing]

This is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!! I love the dedication you put to ALL of these animations! My favourite part is the win screen with all of the mercenaries posing, as well as the up special where a random teammate performs the flip taunt! And to top it all off, the video has a bunch of Smash Ultimate effects that you recreated yourself, such as the "final blow" effect and the transitions, making it FEEL as if it really was Smash Ultimate. Beautifully elaborated work!!

[@mistaplayinabox]

Indeed Checkmarked Wooloo

[@HAARGLaga]

to me the render looks poorly photoshopped and the alts are all either offensive or not gonna work because they reference community figures and memes some people won't know

[@eattheboard1684]

@@HAARGLaga Were you expecting a 2d Heavy? Because I don’t understand how else Heavy would look like besides this. If they feature memes then it’s even better to put them in, don’tcha think?

[@N3Knowledge]

I'm really happy to hear that you liked those little touches I added. I did want to put a few effects in there to give it that extra Ultimate feeling. I know I could've made them look better, as I just did mainly kinda poor green screening with those effects, I didn't recreate them myself, but with the little time I had, it was the best I could do.

[@N3Knowledge]

@@HAARGLaga First, I used the model that VALVe used in their shorts like Expiration Date. I don't really understand what you mean by poorly photoshopped. Second, the point of having obscure alts is that they should both look fun to use and have a reference that not everyone would understand, but those who do understand would get a kick out of. Yeah, you can easily make an argument about why the Communist alt shouldn't be added, but what is the problem with having an alt like Bearded Expense? Yes, it's a reference to a community figure that probably a huge number of Smash players wouldn't know of, but it's still a dope looking set of cosmetics on the Heavy that would be fun to use.

[@jamesgroccia644]

7:14 Best victory scene that I’ve ever seen.

[@Ezezetayin]

Imagine the entirety of RED and BLU dancing Kazotsky Kick/Mannrobics/Conga

[@nutscratcher7973]

We got Steve, now lets get Heavy, boys.

[@qindairyesbozell159]

I actually think he has a Chance if the meme gets big enough like Steve so I’m getting my hopes up

[@enochdemille2396]

You're damn right

[@EliiMot]

Yeaaaaah boiiiiiii

[@presidentbob4515]

Hell yeah

[@leach3686]

I kinda doubt it but we will see

[@Jacko-xi6ks]

Am I the only one who noticed that when the heavy sleeps, he does the stock Family Guy death pose of Peter Griffin?

[@Thatfiya3401]

No

[@amogsus631]

Good, so im not alone

[@El-cm1yt]

bearded expense

[@riahismzone]

this confirms that heavy is peter griffin from total drama island

[@man-batiszkokabatsow4153]

When he sleeps he has broken leg.

[@blakerierson3165]

When Heavy dies in a Star KO you hear "The Heavy is dead?" instead of his yell.

[@EMan-1920]

"That Heavy is dead?!"

[@Mirageknight2133]

@@EMan-1920 Why is the heavy dead?

[@EMan-1920]

@@Mirageknight2133 Engineer: "I don't know." Heavy: "I think it was-" Both Engineer and Spy: "Shhh! You are dead!" Heavy: "Okay. [Ragdoll collision into ground]"

[@Mirageknight2133]

@@EMan-1920 *camper pulls up* What's up ya wankers! Who's up for a- what the bloody hell just happened?

[@crownedxyrus1598]

@@Mirageknight2133 Engi and Spy: *The Heavy is Dead*

[@shitpostertergestino8529]

7:29 That's a complete masterpiece

[@saxshton]

fun fact: Heavy is wanted 8th (I think) in Europe! Let's hope this is it.

[@charKT-7461]

What? I definitely DON'T want Heavy in Smash. Mostly due to the fact that the chances of him getting added are so low that Mr. Game & Watch's crouch dwarves it.

[@Winrarnt]

@@charKT-7461 cool that's an opinion that wasn't needed

[@charKT-7461]

@@Winrarnt It was most definitely needed.

[@Winrarnt]

@@charKT-7461 how did it add to the conversation other than being negative in a positive comment replies

[@charKT-7461]

@@Winrarnt There are no positive replies on this.

[@danielhuber9156]

I can tell you put a lot of effort into this, beautifully done!

[@lordcole5138]

1:17 Scout: I’m the only class that can double jump. Heavy: hold my sandvich

[@pamtheman5748]

Scout: unfreaking believable

[@noblememology6032]

*when heavy has a power to Steal any teammate ability*

[@krusher023]

"No other class gonna do that"

[@bacongaming1353]

Scout: *eats sandvich*

[@22chiwi]

I thought of the greatest taunt for everybody. The high five, if any tf2 character does it then if someone taunts while facing them (and they are right next to each other) then they high five. Everybody forgets the friendly aspect of tf2

[@KenobiChaos212]

God this is such a good fan made heavy showcase. If daddy Sakurai hears our cries, SSBU would most definitely be called the most innovative cross over, expanding the life cycles of both games

[@evdestroy5304]

Even if normal guns wouldn't be allowed, heavy has the finger guns

[@N3Knowledge]

Exactly.

[@Yo_Soy_Pirok]

Yea the *PUTIS PAW* haha

[@aweragedealsenjoyer1479]

@@thegremlin7432 Snake And also Bayo

[@wingedbluj1674]

@@deadahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaccount1234 Snake carries grenades, C4, a rocket launcher, a mortar, and down right missiles

[@ciprianocanda9405]

@@wingedbluj1674 so its fair

[@theonlygem3618]

3:23 When you see the vampire that stole your great grandfather's body

[@rayraymukhi230]

seinaru vision STAND PROUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@oceanlenethsurya7085]

Welp bois it's a jojo refrence...

[@theonlygem3618]

It sure is

[@gelitonman1753]

Is ThAt A jOjO rEfErEnCe?!?!?!

[@theonlygem3618]

@@gelitonman1753 sure is buddy

[@45mkz]

Seeing Heavy run is cursed, more cursed than me.

[@N3Knowledge]

I fear no man, but that thing... it scares me...

[@Starkiller44545]

_you are no competition with me_

[@thisisanaccount7165]

You cannot walk

[@45mkz]

@@thisisanaccount7165 Who said that?

[@MasteropHat42]

I’ve noticed

[@notarealspy4090]

This is such an outrageous concept but I absolutely love it! If there was a unique way to give heavy a custom set of cosmetics for the fun of it I think that would be absolutely hilarious

[@SourTredmill]

Not sure if this is ravelent but... According to a news outlet heavy weapons guy tops the largest smash character vote. No joke...

[@N3Knowledge]

I’d love it it was an official poll of sorts, but I have little faith that it would get Heavy into Smash. I want to believe it would, but I dunno.

[@mee091000]

If any of the TF2 cast made it into Smash. It would have to be Heavy or Engineer

[@toils8722]

@@mee091000 nah it's either pyro or scout. And demo Demo is a melee fighter and yeas he also has explosives. Pyto is literally just Charizard with air blast. And scout has double jump and can hit you w a bat.

[@macrro]

@@toils8722 Demo, Heavy and scout would be awesome to get in smash

[@rasta7655]

Sadly the poll was rigged in Heavy's favor, the poll was spread everywhere on tf2 subreddits.

[@PFEANYCS]

I think my absolute favorite part of this concept video is the win screen portion. They all feel like they belong in the actual game, especially given what they represent. When someone thinks of ‘heavy’ and ‘victory,’ the first thing they’d think of would likely be the victory dance, heavy’s iconic laugh, or his ‘meet the heavy’ video which ends with that even more iconic team picture. These three actions were animated to near perfection, especially the team picture. Well played N3Knowledge, well played

[@survivaldaman170]

Joker: has a gun Heavy: I'm about to ruin this whole mann's career

[@kgb5507]

Spy is probably Joker's echo fighter except he turns invisible instead of having Arsene

[@survivaldaman170]

@@kgb5507 a man can dream about any tf2 class making it into smash right?

[@kgb5507]

@@survivaldaman170 "Probably"

[@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747]

*Doomguy has entered the chat*

[@survivaldaman170]

@@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 what would win against a fight? The doomguy's shotgun or the Heavy's taunt kill.

[@galondon5256]

I love this so much, and I've played SSB like 2 times in my life. This is so well done.

[@Jojo-on7pk]

heavy: "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet" every character with a reflector: "allow us to introduce ourselves"

[@pamtheman5748]

Heavy: shet

[@c7zr179]

Heavy should have an ability where his bullets can't be reflected by the reflectors in game.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@c7zr179 no

[@HylianKirbo]

*Hylian shield* Hello there.

[@RowletGameing]

@@c7zr179 actually this is what happens with Joker and Bayonetta, they aren't projectiles, just very very long hitboxes

[@mariocooper1996]

7:28 The last victory animation with Heavy posing with the entire Mercenary cast is my favorite one. It would be a brilliant one as it literally references the end of every TF2 trailer and main theme.

[@oliirik]

I gotta say, even if the quality isn't as good as the real smash characters, at least someone tried to make it, unlike the others that are here just to critics... If they aren't happy about what you've made, then why aren't they doing it themselves, huh? Man, you can be proud of what you've done, that's really impressive.

[@N3Knowledge]

There were a lot of things holding me back from making this as good looking as smash characters, such as a time limit, weak computers, and this being my first SFM video. I'm glad you said it's impressive, because I really did try the best I could with this.

[@ThePersonWhoAsks]

Whos critizing this?

[@oliirik]

There's no specified people in here, but there're some people that just critic other people's work, but they don't do much better themselves, and I hate them... I hope I won't find one that critics this fanmade.

[@ThePersonWhoAsks]

@@oliirik thanks for letting me know.

[@oliirik]

@Gabriel Mota But movies like the emoji movie isn't the same thing as the fanmade animation he did right there... I see what you meant by that and I could agree if it was on the emoji movie but not here...

[@Gamer_Oni927]

That *Bearded Expense* Skin caught me off-guard I almost had a heart attack while laughing

[@bclt4705]

If they showed that clip at E3 people would’ve lost their shit

[@alexrexaros9837]

[Pit] Gee, this guy is HUUUGE! Who is he? [Palutena] That's Heavy Weapons Guy, one of the strongest members of Team Fortress, working for both RED and BLU Inc. He's quite a buff guy, knows his moves, and loves his gun. [Pit] Oh, so it's all in the muscles huh? I like him already. [Palutena] Not quite, he's quite smart actually. From what I was able to gather, he got a PhD in... Russian literature. He's the muscles and the brains of his team. [Pit] A what? What's a PhD? [Palutena] Something you won't be able to get. Either way, watch out for his minigun, Pit. Heavy uses real bullets, not sword, arrows or magics. Beware his strong jabs and his shotgun too! [Pit] A shotgun? Who brings a gun to a melee fight? [Palutena] Who brings a flightless angel to a combat competition with space bounty hunters and plumbers? [Pit] Ah. Good point. [Palutena] Any way, watch out, he also brought some of his friends on the way. Watch out for that Medic, he can make people gods from what I've heard. [Pit] Got it, I'll show this mass of muscles AND brains how it's done!

[@vidar668]

*MMM* *BEAUTIFUL*

[@cakebear9534]

H O T

[@dabograekuttv319]

Dat was not aded

[@tabascomilk5897]

It would be cool if Pauline had contracts for characters in smash similar to the codec calls and guidance

[@zappy2000]

Someone please make some fan made Pauline contract smash bro scripts

[@jakobhere620]

7:13 Seeing that logo come up fills me with such joy... We _need_ a Valve/TF2 rep.

[@mamamiazakaria7481]

Definitely has to be Gordon Freeman or Heavy. Portal could get some rep via item, imagine wielding the portal gun mid game

[@DucksAndPonds]

sora is in smash now we failed, men

[@gabriel.b9036]

You call that a loss? I've crapped bigger losses than that!

[@mahbubmaleksyed5301]

1 year later there will be people commenting: wHo WaS hErE aFtEr HeAvY gOt InTo SmAsH bRos?????? Edit: 4 more months, cmon Nintendo

[@mysteryakatsuki]

The biggest prediction to come true

[@N3Knowledge]

My man's planning the sickest read of all time.

[@Kukalooka]

I hope you’re right

[@jakubslezak271]

Dont do that,dont give me Hope

[@caelin4174]

Is this real??

[@hypn00s197]

4:18 That End of the Line reference was magnificent

[@GBIceTheGod]

Woah giygas?

[@bagelpenguin6499]

YO I didn't even notice that at first.

[@NPC-vq3cl]

I doubt that nintendo would use it

[@mirroredrealities1639]

Imagine Heavy having better aerials than Little Mac.

[@dartfeld9810]

Could you imagine putting 7:20 next to Wario's laugh?

[@N3Knowledge]

That would be amazing

[@sssmaxs2615]

7:28 I love this victory so much I can’t explain how much I love this one

[@RebelliousRobot]

Ah yes, the Meet the Heavy outro.

[@itriggerpeople4433]

would easily be the best victory screen in the game

[@ArclightLuna]

I TRIGGER PEOPLE idk man jokers is very good

[@theultimateswagon]

This has opened my eyes. Heavy has so much potential. The rage quit- producing laugh? The taunt that kills? Dash attack that trips? Giant guns? Final smash that hits like a reverse dash? This guy is just a real bag of tricks, a real "expect the unexpected" moveset. I love it, great work!

[@crustaceanking3293]

down taunt is a tauntkill too

[@nickthedreamer4434]

Honestly, if the Heavy made it into Smash, his reveal quote would be "Meet the Heavy" and not "Mows Down the Competition"

[@bettercallsolman]

“Prepare to meet the heavy!”

[@queenzigzag]

i was thinking "HEAVY Manns up!"

[@kingpoopoo5461]

Both would work

[@spaghetti_masher]

What if “Heavy Brings The Big Guns”

[@thatonecaryouwant]

*HEAVY* Prepares to be met.

[@rougenarwhal8378]

heavy in smash: i dunno sounds kinda cool but would they really... He has a jojo costume alt: you son of a bitch, I'm in

[@pixelarticuno1636]

6:25 I love how the Bearded Expense costume Heavy is the only one A-posing.

[@palblue]

A-sserting dominance

[@N3Knowledge]

100% on purpose, you're welcome.

[@VIOLENT6]

:stare:

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

unique idle animation

[@josethezombiewolf4454]

I can imagine that the bearded expense costume is the only costume that doesn't have any animation but it just sticks with A-pose

[@DiglettZone]

people "why does he do a flip when double jumping?" Me, an intellectual: "why does he HAVE a double jump?"

[@ucantstoptheflopp4387]

Have you heared about the Ancient Fat scout? Its not just called that way because he uses a shotgun

[@quelquundebien.9283]

@@ucantstoptheflopp4387 some man here have the good references

[@4madeu5s]

Lmao its smash uINTELECTUAL

[@Nehfarius]

Scout taught him how to double-jump.

[@classicsans2232]

@@Nehfarius nah soldier taught him to rocket jump without a rocket

[@Golden12500]

Most folks stick to the Stock stuff for Heavy movesets, but this is new. Utililizing almost every one of his iconic Weapons, and even his TEAMMATES! So unique and detailed, this needs more attention

[@Magicmarina]

One of the few things missing is that I would love to see him have one of his taunts be the kazotsky kick and if enemy’s taunted near him they would also kazotsky kick

[@michaelwells529]

That would be epic!

[@springcraft0596]

7:28 best victory scene that i ever seen

[@bird4313]

Once he's in smash, there's gonna be someone named "Pooop" going around online and just jabbing everyone

[@gaster-vl3lp]

and then we will get first ban character ever

[@mistaplayinabox]

The purple shirted eye stabber?

[@johnjekyllson28]

This could only be better if Heavy was cuddling Sasha in his sleep animation.

[@gruntlos]

Its family guy peter death pose

[@theandroid5282]

Or his idle animation.

[@orionmclaughlin5680]

4:36 For his neutral special, HE WEILDS A GUN

[@orionmclaughlin5680]

Also, I like how the final smash is Übercharge, as Heavy is probably the most powerful Mercenary when Übercharged.

[@Someonewithaspace]

3:10 "Hello gamers it is I, Soundsmith Team Fortress 2 from the future uhmm i mean post-production i didn't notice this at the time i was playing but uhmm i'd like to point-out that the ragdoll for bearded's corpse is actually in a near replication of the Stock Family guy Death Pose this confirms my theory that Bearded expense is in fact Peter griffin from total drama island" -Soundsmith tf2, August 11, 2018

[@Wafflyy]

Yes

[@peet-janissen5838]

Was scrolling through the comments and was worried I wouldn’t find a comment about this.

[@loserlw337]

Don't give me hope, this is just too awesome

[@feroxino1051]

Kinda don't want to hype ya, but a leak containing Heavy DID predict Min Min last month

[@goon5665]

@@feroxino1051 how

[@1994CivicGLi]

6:25 I love how bearded expense is just straight up A-posing instead of the idle animation

[@alastor8134]

Did you mean *the overmind*

[@CanceltheEat]

That last victory screen gives me chills

[@sheriffhotdog1443]

I would LOVE to see Demoknight as a swordfighter *Demoman: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE*

[@seabassjames8222]

Make him a Mii Swordfighter costume. I feel like Demoknight wouldn't have enough moves for a unique moveset, and Mii Gunner has gotten enough good costumes recently, so Brawler and Swordfighter need some.

[@st4ndg4mes87]

Intro: "What makes me a good Demoman? If I were a bad Demoman, I wouldn't be sitting here, in the Nintendo office, now would I?"

[@22chiwi]

Shrimp he deserves to be a unique fighter. (If he kills a sword fighting opponent) “THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE”. (If he kills other tf2 characters, he gets his domination quotes). (vs soldier) I’ll inform your next of kin...THAT YA SUCKED. also can people stop ignoring engie for smash move set videos? As an engie main watching fricking pyro get a move set I just went “...really...out of all the characters...you choose pyro...wow just...wow” at least there’s a rivals of aether move set for him

[@The4stro]

i love how you included the rest of the mercs in his up special and a win screen

[@rompevuevitos222]

Half the comment section is "Never played TF2 but i want him in smash" and the other is "Never played Smash but i want him in anyway"

[@wingedbluj1674]

I guess I'm a rare case who's played both

[@AliceMGT]

I play both almost everyday lol....HEAVY FOR SMASH

[@genericpotato9502]

I mean, look at the meme potential if heavy gets in smash

[@NephFunk]

4:18 dude, the down throw being an end of the line reference is FANTASTIC.

[@thatguythere6161]

For the up special, I really think we should have the teammates falling to their deaths screaming. It would be much funnier that way.

[@N3Knowledge]

That's such a hilarious thought.

[@KC_Garcia]

@@N3Knowledge "Alright, make it easy." One second later "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[@dr.doctor2620]

teleporting in when the animation begins would make it fine

[@partymachine4898]

Or the killbind “Take it easy” *drops dead*

[@tropicalbytsanity7845]

And said falling merc could be a hitbox itself. Basically a hitbox not projectile

[@LuckiSir]

7:32 I'd laugh if they did this as one of his win screens, and it just shows the mercs awkwardly looking around. Like, *"How long are we gonna stand here?"* glancing around the area

[@sandhanitizer1990]

Lol I was thinking that too. I imagined Spy subtlely looks at his watch after some time passes on that screen

[@scrub6114]

@@sandhanitizer1990 "c'mon, I don't have all day!"

[@thechewypandaman]

Funny thing to think about is that Gabe would be 100% on board with this. We just need Sakurai’s approval. There was too much heart put into this for it to be dismissed so quickly.

[@ishigami4622]

But there’s GUNS sakurai doesn’t like guns

[@lopertyl6534]

kenji montalban -cough cough- Joker -cough-

[@lopertyl6534]

kenji montalban For his neutral special, he wields a *G U N*

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Yep

[@SpiderGamerXxx]

The thing is, Smash Bros is for "good boys and girls", and we all know that TF2 might be REALLY REALLY iconic. It's not for "good boys and girls". And because there's guns. Since some of you might mention, Bayonetta made it in because Nintendo and Sega (made it...? Inform me on that one, but they have connection.). If you notice, Mai Shiranui didn't make it because "Bad girl" even though Bayonetta is MORE "badder" is because Nintendo and Sega had something to do with Bayonetta.