TBFP Silent Hill 2 - The Definitive Compilation

[@Postaldude__]

There was a friendship here. It's gone now

[@The-Beyonder]

Wasn't because Matt deleted Pat's 400 hour Person 4 file lmao?

[@ThreshAllden]

oof

[@psychomammoth9640]

Replaces with a Woolie hole singing an echoing dmx song.

[@Dirty0o0Jester]

As genuinely sad as that makes me I'm glad they played this game before splitting, I feel like it's a nice bonding moment right before going separate ways. Shame it's not really the case but it's been years so I can gaslight myself into it

[@clockworkNate]

@@Dirty0o0Jester Angelas mother would be proud of you 😂

[@lazarusrat6159]

You can hear in his voice just how excited Pat is to put on his psychology hat and discuss this game he loves. It makes me happy.

[@slicknicdwyer]

Pat... You made me happy.

[@ChadSlampiece]

His psychology hat has a few holes in it though.

[@TheShockVox]

Just wish it was him and Woolie. Dudes would’ve had a field day

[@SteelBallRun1890]

@@TheShockVox No, it would've just been boring. The reason I revisit this more than the Cat Lady or I Have No Mouth is there's a nice balance of being entertaining and cracking jokes off-cutscenes and Pat can pretend to be smart because he read the SH2 FAQ's and wikis a million times as a kid, during cutscenes.

[@roondar6141]

In my restless dreams I see those shitlords those Best Friends

[@itsnicetoseeyou]

Take this axe... and hope you don't have to throw it.

[@Blitzthesquirrle]

You promised you'd LP REmake2. But you never did...

[@serberus5233]

Well, we're alone here now, in the Woolie hole, waiting for them...

[@dsmassive2182]

Cant even imagine how many times this vid was used to help me sleep, thanks for the comps

[@ubermaster134]

Pyramid head's theme "Betrayal" is really beautiful. The buzzing saws, the heavenly choir and clanking pipes create such a somber feeling.

[@Falcnuts]

This is my favorite lets play of all time. It's like a hug for your insides.

[@mrimprezadent]

1:05:39 Never noticed it until now but Laura refers to Mary in past tense.

[@slipnslideguy3015]

Holy shit, this really is a game that you can learn new things about years after you experience! Nice find!

[@michaelbuehler3897]

That's good attention to detail.

[@oatmeal710]

why wouldn't she? everything she talks about with mary happened in the past

[@mrimprezadent]

​@@oatmeal710 "I was friends with Mary" James thinks (and by extension the player) Mary's been dead for 3 years but Laura doesn't know Mary's dead at this point, so she should be using present tense. Not saying its a mistake on the writer or actress, probably a subtle red herring I didn't pick up on.

[@alexclayton6785]

"You have to have sex with her, there's a gun to your head!" "...What kind of sex?" This game is genuinely lightning in a bottle, the slow burn of the reveal of *why* James is in Silent Hill and what it all means is incredibly well done, creating a character study into a character who is deeply flawed and full of intense regret for a terrible, irreversible moment of weakness, something that has never really been done as well by any other silent hill. In fact, I can't think of any other *games* that do it, but I want somebody to tell me about any others.

[@CosmicWaltz7]

Spec Ops: The Line. Third person shooter, XBox 360 and PS3. I know this is just someone on the internet telling you this, but you're best going in with as little spoiled as possible. The general set up is that during the US - Middle East wars, a US battalion is returning home passing through Dubai. As they are, an incredibly destructive sandstorm descends on the city, endangering the population as their communication and supply line is severed from the outside world. This battalion is told to evacuate while they can, but they refuse and instead stay behind to help the civilians. Months go by with no communication penetrating the on-going sandstorm. The US sends in members of the CIA to investigate, but they also fail to return with no communication. Finally, a message pierces the wall, playing out from Dubai. The leader of the US battalion reports total failure, with a death count "too high." You and two other specialist soldiers are sent in to make contact and report back on what happened to "The Damned 33rd."

[@CosmicWaltz7]

Seriously, as someone that plays SH2 annually and revels in the small, isolated place of complex guilt it sends me to, try Spec Ops: The Line.

[@HeeMcGee]

Read Subahibi

[@Woombi]

Omori is pretty good. I also feel even though the other 3 from team silent aren’t as good/hard focused on studying the main character, they all are really good games.

[@Kropothead]

@@Woombi Yeah, Omori does it pretty well in the end. It’s oddly cozy, and also deeply fucked up.

[@BlitzTeamPro001]

I miss them :(

[@herollama3175]

We all do

[@psychomammoth9640]

2:11:13 love how I imagine the dog laughing at him with Matt’s voice.

[@NootalieWalf]

Since my favorite moments timestamp comments from the old videos are dust, here’s the start of V2! 1:04:45 - ‘Scuse me 🇨🇦

[@michaelbuehler3897]

This is best compilation I have seen on Silent Hill 2 so far.

[@figysmalls4872]

Love the edits in this, great work and thanks.

[@TheSlammurai]

A Silent Hill amusement park where Pyramid Head is just walking around? Isn't that Revelations?

[@MrSpartan993]

UGH.

[@Xsopit24631]

I remember watching these as they were coming out 😢

[@BulldozerBilly]

I love that music you play when Pat is mistaken lol I watch the compilations you put together because I just don't have the time to watch their whole let's plays, so thank you so much for preserving and shortening their content. I think these guys had the best channel back in the day and sometimes I worry that KZbin is going to just "shut down" one day and all their content will be gone.... So I just wanna say, if you ever put this stuff on disc I would totally buy something like that! Or tip graciously! 😉

[@boketto9521]

I been thinking about that as well. I know some of their stuff can probably get taken down like heavy rain 1st or 2nd episode had nudity in it, but as far as I know youtube had been kind to their channel thankfully

[@MrSpartan993]

⁠@@boketto9521 as long as SBFP doesn’t became freaking Lost Media like 80% of older videogames. If no one prioritizes preserving history, even with the internet, eventually it WILL be lost to time. The PT demo would have been like that if people didn’t save it any way we could before it was delisted and taken out with updates.

[@PatrickWentzell-jd9gq]

I like these kind of videos I've been a Silent Hill fan since first playing the second and third game in this series happy new year to all .

[@ThatManCarryingSand]

It's interesting to think what could have been if Matt had done more to keep in touch with Rossetter. RIP Best Friends, RIP Twin Perfect.

[@NootalieWalf]

Dude same 😞

[@Boarder4892]

What happened to them?

[@ThatManCarryingSand]

@@Boarder4892 Rosseter made a Superman movie his hill to die on. Some podcast invited him onto their stream to debate his take on the movie and he got steamrolled hard. Some might say he made an ass out of himself. There hasn't been a new video or any social presence I'm aware of since.

[@xxprototypexx5056]

@@ThatManCarryingSand Who's Rosseter?

[@ThatManCarryingSand]

@@xxprototypexx5056 From Twin Perfect. Their videos are still up, they did a whole series on Silent Hill.

[@orngcreator6115]

Didn’t expect a reference to The Jar lol

[@andieallison6792]

Omg where

[@10GaugeManiac]

Eddie shoots James in the shoulder. James whips out a hunting rifle and blasts him clear across the room.

[@TheShockVox]

I have no attachment to Silent Hill. Never played 2. No nostalgia. While it’s all subjective, that ending monologue is *amazing*. Notice how Pat said it’s the most amazing voice acting performance HE’S ever heard in any game ever 3:09:38. A subjective opinion, he doesn’t state it as a fact. And then Matt here goes “I don’t think it is”. Look…I know the meme is ooooh Pat is rude blah blah he has no soul, but Matt just stepped on his subjective opinion, for one. For two, it makes me wonder what does Matt think is a good performance. For three, it makes me wonder why it never became a meme that Matt has no soul, with all the times Matt mocked Pat for being emotional at a game (The Walking Dead Season One). I wish Woolie and Pat were the ones who played this back then.

[@angellara7040]

It's ironic how originally pat and woolie refused to do lps together only for them to be the best part of sbfp

[@DjFluffyCuban]

@@angellara7040 Woolie is by far the worst part of SBFP and I cannot imagine why anyone would enjoy the shitty improv class-level of "yes and"ing of terrible jokes that pat has to do because Woolie doesn't have a sense of humor and thinks just referencing things is the same thing as making jokes

[@addiction4062]

i dont understand why youre dramatizing this. pat gave his opinion and then matt gave his own. he didnt trample all over pats. he even started with i think to make it clear. the matt hate boner after the breakup has made your brain melt.

[@WineRedEchos]

@@DjFluffyCuban very recently went to try and watch woolie's channel recently because I wanted some oldschool let's play stuff to watch, because pats unedited 6 hour streams are really rough to watch (seriously dude give someone like $20 to scan through the VoD and cut out your afk moments), and woolie and reggie are so cringey it actually hurts me. like I started a replay of ff9 right before woolie started his first ever playthrough of it. and man the shitty improv and obsession with the card game ruin it so hard I think I watched like 4 episodes and can't take any more.

[@CloakofAuron]

​@@WineRedEchosWelcome to the Woolie vs any RPG experience. This is why I quit his LP of Paper Mario TTYD.

[@boketto9521]

I had to stop watching these guys shortly after liam left. Not by choice, fell on hard times. Coming back and their gone is a shitty feeling and i blame david kages awful games for the death of their channel. I know they got their own channels now but them going solo dont hit the same to me, they had good energy together. Whether it be all 4 of them or any combo of them doing a 2 person video Got my into all sorts of obscure game genres and movies id never had heard about otherwise. Things like riki oh, samurai cop, darkest dungeon, this war of mine, nidhog, the telltale games(for better or worse) and the tons of other games they brought exposure to that id never have seen otherwise. Just recently started rewatching their content starting with silent hill downpour and your channel came up. Thank you for keeping their content alive

[@MrSpartan993]

It’s still makes me sad to think about honestly. I personally didn’t see it coming at ALL. Felt like I got blindsided by the news.

[@boketto9521]

@MrSpartan993 same here. Back then they were getting tons of fan mail, had the podcast taking off, taking trips around the world(mainly japan being the weebs they are), patt was able to quit his day job and you could see the positive change in his attitude. He was and always will be a dick but it didn't have the extra pent up frustration behind it anymore. matt was getting cameos in start up games, them being in the early didyouknow channel videos, and now it just feels like that's all fallen apart. I can get that they probably make enough to live comfortably but there was definitely a golden Era to it all. People say they are still around but they're lying to themselves if they feel the content is the same, they all brought something to the table and now the formula is gone. On a side note I seriously need to find new lets players because this shit is depressing lol

[@deviantknight7009]

​@@boketto9521try Oneyplays, they were friends with two best friends play. Listen to the Oneyplays Golden Axe complete playthrough to start

[@alldayagain]

I have no source apart from outward info, but I believe the core part of their breakdown wad the main "characters" for the channel being Matt and Pat, who worked together at the start out if convince. It was supposed to be Matt and Woolie, but Woolie was too busy with his game testing job. As such, Matt and Pat joined forces. Apart from this, and this is speculation based on what they focused on post-split, I believe they they had different interests and desires for content that they couldn't pursue together on TBFP/SBFP. Matt seems to have wanted to pursue more creative and refined content (much like JonTron leaving Game Grumps), Pat wanted to get into streaming (he was always a huge fan of fan/community interaction), and Woolie seemed to want to stay the course for the traditional LP content (see WoolieVS). By separating, though hard for fans, they were able to pursue their own passions and be much happier as a result. So... silver linings 😅

[@alldayagain]

​@boketto9521 in addition to Oneyplays, try WoolieVS if you haven't (seems obvious, but figured I'd mention it 😅)

[@patrickwentzell4638]

I like this game and I'll keep playing it for a very long time .

[@RexWort]

2:10:08 Boy Those were the days back then😅

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

1:22:24 playing this has made this moment seem absurd to me now, as maria kept getting stuck and dying for me

[@Ninjaswithipods]

2:09:04 Eddie be shooting up people like Maria huh? No wonder why she hates Bowling.

[@chompytv8591]

Hey, wait a minute, is the phrase, “There was a hole here, it’s gone now.” A reference to James’ personal guilt around his sexualization of women? Like, it’s referring to Mary as “the hole” and it “being gone” is her death, and considering there are already themes in the game of James dealing with his own sexual urges maybe it’s not too far off? Idk.

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

Just about everything has some sorta meaning, most are left vague for the player to fill in the blanks. In this case that seems very likely; or it's just a metaphorical hole in James himself, and Mary "passing" fills the hole James had, or silent hill forces him to come to terms.

[@zayadontdwell]

Interesting theory actually, a bit bleak

[@Greendawn-di3dl]

@@zayadontdwell silent hill isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.

[@PatrickWentzell-jd9gq]

ya know what would be cool if costume unlocks were available .

[@shadowsenpai7151]

wtf happened to the original video ? I was watching it in the morning then it disappeared

[@burninblaza3]

Taco had to move everything over to this new channel because of KZbin and demonization I believe.

[@DirtyDan4659]

Yes, tis ye old shit holes fault

[@MonsieurBig]

@@burninblaza3 who?

[@angelbotello2882]

@@MonsieurBig the person who made these compilations

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

There was a video here, it’s gone now

[@tylerharris3416]

What is that clip from? at 2:47:39

[@superbestfriendsdefinitive197]

The Jar, shitty old movie. It was on a very early best of the worst episode.

[@tylerharris3416]

@@superbestfriendsdefinitive197 Ah! Thanks dude, I come back to this comp pretty much every now and again and that bit never fails to kill me. Probably cause James yelling leave us alone sounds like Dan Castellaneta voicing him only more Homer Simpson

[@FlowersSunRain]

Honestly I'm not really a big fan of the in water ending. Well, I think it's a good ending, but I don't think it's very like, good when it comes to the themes of Silent Hill 2, about dealing with past trauma, and guilt. I think James being overcome with guilt doesn't really feel thematically resonant when he abandons the girl who mary wanted to adopt.

[@TheShockVox]

Pat did mention in the podcast when Woolie finished the game that the endings he feel most appropriate to him change based on where he is in life. Back as a kid, in the water was one he felt right. As an adult now, I don’t remember if he was married yet or not but we know he’s been with Paige for years (and now has a kid) the ending where James leaves the town alive (not with Maria) is the one he feels is most appropriate to him.

[@RedNinja115]

God I hope the remake is good, but know in my heart there’s a 95% chance it’s crap 😢

[@MrSpartan993]

This IS freaking Konami we’re talking about. The company that completely left the videogame market to make stupid Japanese slot machines for years. I DONT have any faith in their lack of greed.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

I just saw it, and no its not

[@shawncc89]

It is though.​@@Sonicfalcon16

[@taikan5]

According to Pat, who's currently going through it, "so far so good"

[@Jennilynne]

It's very good

[@Haitch_Kay]

Oh man lmao 2:56:29 , I'm chalking how poorly this aged up to [Crazy Talk] deciding to work on Matt. Not only is the SH2 Remake fantastic, it keeps the same exact ending condition requirements.

[@SwankyJami]

Maria was shot through the cheek? So the killer is an Italian Mobster!

[@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski]

aw man, you cut down some of the poignant parts down to their essential contents, cutting some of the lengthy pauses where nothing is said and in doing so stripped them of something fundamental i don't know yet. they just dont have the impact they usually do. the videotape scene in particular is pretty egregious.

[@SteamPaladin]

this is a comp of pat and mat’s dialogue, not of the game’s cutscenes

[@MidnightKingL]

1:14:30 For future self

[@psychomammoth9640]

3:32 lore I totally forgot about, crazy.

[@mlpfanboy1701]

1:41:08 clearly they know nothing of several cultures , several cutures talk about parts of the ocean being haunted. IE the Bermuda triangle.

[@clanofclams2720]

Bermuda Triangle is cursed, not haunted

[@MrSpartan993]

SOMETHING fucked up is going on over there and it’s not just random weather. Something is wrong.

[@PixieTrixster]

The pyramid is also a phallic symbol to me too

[@Rebelnutt]

Ow

[@spartandumpster1158]

Ya know what, with all the video game based movies and shows that are actually good lately, I'd be really happy to see Silent Hill be given another shot. In fact I could even see it making for a good show, even if they just straight up used the games stories and just adjusted them to work for a show. Maybe make every season based on a different game.

[@Shawn_Boyce]

😅😅 She's like hey this is my last wish is for James to live for yourself and he goes Kill himself He should have written a letter 😅😅

[@chriskoloski32]

The fact that theres more than one pyramid head, the painting of him as an executioner, and the sheer amount of notes mentioning the red devil is why I believe that pyramid head isn't exclusive to james

[@tobiasnexus4391]

The Red Devil is the cult's executioner with the splinter group that tried to bring about the holy mother with the 21 sacraments. He is literally explained in 4

[@TAMAMO-VIRUS]

Sure, the Red Pyramid isn't exclusive to James, but the use of him outside of 2 just feels flaccid. Dead By Daylight gets a pass since they _try_ to explain why he is there and it's mostly just a gallery of the best of the horror genre

[@Postaldude__]

You kinda got it wrong. Yes. There are paintings of him as an executioner, but that doesn’t mean he’s not exclusive to James. He is. Silent hill just manifested him as a form of punishment and guilt and you know, and an executioner is really good at..well..punishment. So it manifested as a grotesque version of that. It’s just that the silent hill executioner on the paintings wasn’t necessarily dreamt up by James, that was a real thing at some point as indicated by the historical society. The version he sees though? The invincible massively huge bloody rusty one that moves freakishly and inhumanly with a giant sword meant to indicate heavy guilt? That is a manifestation of James and James only and that was done really well, so when it’s done in any other way it’s just lame. I guess they have a reason to maybe have him around since there’s lore surrounding him besides James but what’s the fucking point, it’s HIS thing. And he’s surely seen that painting before seeing as he visited SH previously with Mary, he saw that painting of PH and in some way it stuck with him and that’s why it manifested that way. Also, there is ONE other note mentioning the Red Devil iirc. It’s the Walter Sullivan one outside of the apartment complex, and come on. Lots of shit is red in the silent hill universe lmfao. Correct me if I’m wrong on the amount of notes though. Hope I explained it okay. What you’re saying is kinda like saying is because other sexy nurses exist outside of James’ psyche they’re not a part of his psyche anymore. it’s his interpretation of traumas and guilt and in that way it’s still very much James’ own personal demon

[@shawncc89]

Why does Matt make fun of this game over and over?

[@chickenwings6172]

down coming it was Home Coming

[@WallaceArmand-m4i]

Ole Trafficway

[@chickenwings6172]

Kid you can win the fight against PH without shooting him. what a fail.

[@TheresaGrover-p4y]

Billy Parkway

[@GrayD_Fox]

It's so weird how Matt just starts going off on James being a douchebag and a sell out, it's actually weird that people think that about him when he hasn't done anything like that. If anything Matt is more of a douchebag sell out. There's at least proof of him doing those then there is James Hetfield.

[@buttermilk5364]

Why are you taking critcism about fictional character so personally? If anything your comment is just weird.

[@MIG21-BIS]

​@@buttermilk5364james hetfield is not a fictional character lol

[@ScottBrown-k7s]

Fred Rapid

[@B90-y6n]

When I’m able to play this game myself with ease, then I’ll finish my reconversion back to Christianity ✝️. 💕

[@normanred9212]

Alessa had a worse experience than Angela, by a 100 miles

[@crazygamer4260]

Matt's complaints about super specific things in this game are just kind of confusing. Like it's a fucking video game dude chill out.

[@psychomammoth9640]

Love viewing both perspectives of gaming nitpicking

[@wumbojet]

I'm actually glad these guys broke up because their fanbases have some of the most parasocial weirdos I've seen anywhere. Assigning personal characteristics to your least favorite member because he did something that annoyed you a couple of times, assassinating their character for seemingly unrelated actions and whining about their content instead of just moving on and touching grass. Hell, there's some people in this comment section badmouthing woolie and reggie saying their streams are bad because they don't cater perfectly to their specific tastes. It's actually pathetic.

[@buttermilk5364]

You should see the h3h3 fanbase. They are parasocial asf compared to this.

[@wumbojet]

@@buttermilk5364 that's beyond the concept of "not at all what I'm talking about" and well into the ridiculous camp.

[@michaelbuehler3897]

*"Assigning personal characteristics to your least favorite member because he did something that annoyed you a couple of times, assassinating their character for seemingly unrelated actions and whining about their content instead of just moving on and touching grass."* It's about time someone said this.

[@SmittyDealio]

Pretentiousness starts NOW

[@clanofclams2720]

No. Anti-Intellectualism is cringe.

[@alldayagain]

Time to watch through this absolute Masterpiece as a baseline for the new one 😅 Also, much like with Re8, I can't believe they didn't last long enough to see a new thing they'd love 🥲 ( yes, I am aware that they can enjoy it separately, it's just a thought I always have)

[@Jennilynne]

I watched Pat play through it and I've also watched some of Liam & Matt playing it. Definitely feels different

[@alldayagain]

@Jennilynne weirdly, seeing how well the parts they changed went, it almost makes the parts they left Worst by comparison 🤷‍♂️