Why Doesn't Harry Have Any Relatives? | Harry Potter Film Theory

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@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously tho what kind of name is Linfred of Stinchecombe?
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 жыл бұрын
The name you get from hitting a keyboard with a boxing glove.
@magicsdolbear19
@magicsdolbear19 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a quidditch TV series I'm writing and it's amazing I'd love for you guys to read the first episode
@emberandfriendsanimations2454
@emberandfriendsanimations2454 2 жыл бұрын
The kind of name you get from asking a kid to make a fancy sounding name
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 2 жыл бұрын
The reason Lupin looked so shabby/aged was because of being a Lycanthrope and the stresses related to that. As for why Sirius seemed aged more then normal for being in his 30s was Azkaban. The reason for Snape seeming aged more then normal was heartbreak with Lily and the stress of being a spy.
@zainrahman1088
@zainrahman1088 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows
@tieranalexander4475
@tieranalexander4475 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Petunia the only option because she was the only relative of Lily? It was her blood protection not James so some distant cousin of his wouldn't have protected him.
@oguzer7
@oguzer7 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how they missed this basic plotline lol
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really simple. The Potter line has nothing to do with this.
@broccolihighkicks708
@broccolihighkicks708 2 жыл бұрын
I just commented the same thing, you beat me to it!
@darkroselight3835
@darkroselight3835 2 жыл бұрын
That was how I understood it. The Potter's could still be Cursed by Death, but even if one had been alive Harry would have ended up with Petunia.
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That's why it's called the "Bond of Blood Charm". "The Bknd of blood was the strongest protection I could give you." - Albus Dumbledore
@jonathanfranco8547
@jonathanfranco8547 2 жыл бұрын
You know, it makes perfect sense that the Potter family made Slick Eazy's hair potion. Harry definitely got his untameable hair from them, so it makes sense they invented a potion that would help with their....HARRY problem. I'll see myself out.
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 2 жыл бұрын
Really, its more ironic that Harry doesn't use it. You'd think SOMEONE would have passed him a bottle at one point.
@TheBrothergreen
@TheBrothergreen 2 жыл бұрын
@@MercuryA2000 It's probably really expensive. Name brand, hand crafted by an all goblin workforce, blah, blah, blah.
@JuanMataCFC
@JuanMataCFC 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrothergreen ur probably right considering Fleamont was able to quadruple the Potter family's already massive fortune using it.
@nemasisdemarini8339
@nemasisdemarini8339 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrothergreen I'm pretty certain that, that brand IS HIS. He should just be able to get some. Which means that the real problem isn't that he doesn't use it. It's that no one told him about it during the entire story.
@evasivecookiv5870
@evasivecookiv5870 2 жыл бұрын
@@nemasisdemarini8339 ever tried claiming patent rights at the MOM? I hear its what had Flamel drinking elixir all this time, just waiting for his patent to come through
@gamer708886
@gamer708886 2 жыл бұрын
I have a different theory. That death, having been defeated by the third brother, found a worthy pawn to defeat a future foe. Since death is probably a magical being, he knew that one day Voldemort would challenge his law. Perhaps death did not feel cheated by the brothers but instead chose to test them; The third being the only survivor, the only one whose lineage stood a chance of avoiding death until the real threat emerged. Because it is known in death's lore IRL that he is supposed to be fond of games, so why would death in the books be any different. And what better game than using humanity to keep the wicked at bay by acting as his pieces in the most grand game of chess ever played. And against Voldemort, who would try to become immortal, Harry was simply his knight. Checkmate.
@christianheichel
@christianheichel Жыл бұрын
It is unlikely that death as a cosmic being existed. If he did all you'd have to do is build a bridge to get his attention. I don't hear any other stories involving death. It also seems fair to point out that in the books it is pointed out that the Deathly Hallows were most likely made by the Peverells and death was just a fairy tale made to embellish the story. It seems possible that a 4th witch or wizard in jealousy could have cursed the Peverells causing death to happen more often. But no cosmic being called Death.
@susantindall8711
@susantindall8711 Жыл бұрын
I like your theory but I prefer to think Voldemort chose the person who would be best equipped to kill him. We all know he could have chosen Neville. We also know that had Alice refused to get out of the way it would have made no difference at all. She would have died Neville would have died because Snape didn't ask Voldemort to spare her. I'm not sure I like the thought of adding in death pulling the strings
@SicFromTheKush
@SicFromTheKush 8 ай бұрын
I'd like to believe Rowling's a better worldbuilder than to have the cosmic entity that is Death, do anything to try to thwart Voldemort. It would all come out in the wash anyway. You could say that Death was trying to gain tools/pawns, but I'm gonna scoff at the notion of any thought of Voldemort specifically
@uberian22
@uberian22 2 жыл бұрын
Harry doesn't leave the cloak he sticks it in his robes. He pulls it out and uses it to hide himself when Neville decapitates nagini.
@Trachitol
@Trachitol 2 жыл бұрын
Pauzed the video to post this, indeed he only drops the stone, not the cloak.
@66Louii99
@66Louii99 2 жыл бұрын
was thinking the same thing. it was stuffed in his robe with his wand. But dropped the stone.
@Marcus-ps9mw
@Marcus-ps9mw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trachitol I was just about to come say that
@richardbarton4266
@richardbarton4266 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought that too, but doesn’t that almost grant more creditability to what is said? He keeps the cloak and therefore evades death he doesn’t have to be the master of death just needs to hide from death
@loudd
@loudd 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardbarton4266 that’s a good point. In the end it was the brother with the cloak that lived a long life and willingly took off the robe and greeted death.
@marshallm0992
@marshallm0992 2 жыл бұрын
You could also argue that when Harry died, for that brief moment the entire Potter line was wiped out and thus there was no more curse, ending it that way as well.
@agentwashington4790
@agentwashington4790 2 жыл бұрын
thats what he say near the end
@petersascha2217
@petersascha2217 2 жыл бұрын
Credans is the son of Albus Brother and the blodbond gets destroyed because grindelwad try’s to kill creadens at the end of the movie and dumbeldoor defends him the courses cross and the bloodpact gets destroyed creadens goes him with abliste brother I know this becaus in Germany the movie is already in theaters.
@r3t1k0
@r3t1k0 2 жыл бұрын
What about petunia though
@marshallm0992
@marshallm0992 2 жыл бұрын
@@r3t1k0 I don’t think she really counts, plus she’s a muggle. That’s my logic behind it at least
@belrevan1986
@belrevan1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@r3t1k0 Petunia is not a Potter.
@richardgunton9564
@richardgunton9564 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Mr. and Mrs. Evans died in a car crash. That would make Petunia so cruel for saying that’s how Lily and James died.
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 2 жыл бұрын
Would probably hurt Petunia just as much,they were her parents
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a bit too convenient that Lily, a 21 year old muggle born was an orphan. Slightly more believable on James' side as his parents were old when they had him and they died of dragon pox.
@nellebolton7910
@nellebolton7910 2 жыл бұрын
My theory was always that the Death Eaters killed them and made it look like an accident when Lily started becoming a problem for them. It would give Petunia a solid reason to hate her and hate magic but also to hate/fear Voldemort and what he could do to her son. (See He reaction to Harry telling her Moldy was back) she has first hand experience of the war. That's why she doubles down on the "all wizards are evil freaks" thing.
@tahraethestoryteller6079
@tahraethestoryteller6079 Жыл бұрын
@@nellebolton7910 a lot of her hate was because she was jealous that Lilly was powerful and more beloved by her parents Especially when she was outed for begging Dumbledore to let her into Hogwarts
@prancescoblue1046
@prancescoblue1046 2 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting theory. Yet, it doesn't have good foundations. You assumed everyone in the Potter line died, because Harry is sent to Petunia. While it's true that Mcgonagall asked Dumbledore if there was any other family member and he said there wasn't, you have to take a few things into account. First, Dumbledore wants *Lily's* blood relatives. She sacrificed herself, only her blood can keep the protection alive. Hence, no need to make any assumption about the Potters. Second, even if we include James's family for some reason, Dumbledore is looking for *family*. And I'm quite sure there's a limit to whom can be considered family. Harry's 21st cousin 46-times removed would harly be considered family, even if they're Lindfred's grand-...-grand-child. Even if James's family was an option, how much blood would Harry actually share with such a cousin? And if there were no limit to "blood distance", Harry could just go live with Voldemort. They're both descendants of the Peverell brothers, so they're nth cousins sth-removed too. And it would be hilarious: "Harry, whatever he does, just keep calling 'home' the place where he lives". Living with the man who tried to kill you prevents him from successfully killing you 😂 Third, just as the Peverll family did, the Potter family could have "become extint in the *male* line" except for Harry. Maybe the Potters had tons of daughters and few sons. And I've got the impresion that having children is not that common in the wizarding world, as most of the adult characters don't have chiildren, and we hear about and see some elders who never had children (Bathilda Bagshot, Aunt Muriel, Elphias Doge, Neville's uncle Algie). So I get the impression that in wizarding families among many siblings one or two tend to have kids, the others don't. If that was the case, the Potters would have less descendants than expected. Also, some might have moved abroad, during those 8 centuries. So, if we consider the males in the Potter family who actually had children, and then we rule out those who moved outside of the UK, how many have we got? And how many of them are involved in the public life, rather than living in a small isolated village, with barely any contact with the larger wizarding community? I know Dumbledore knows a lot of things, is wise and skilled, but I'm not expecting him to know every single Potter in the UK, nor every single person who despite not having a Potter last name is a Potter descendant. In the end, this doesn't prove your theory wrong, but a new argument is required.
@Andre-vw4yw
@Andre-vw4yw 2 жыл бұрын
U make a good point, but look how many times Harry spent summers away from his aunt. So that means he probably could have stayed at any family's home. And yes, I do think Harry is related to the Wesley family by blood on their father's side since their father is a black through his mother. And I think one of Harry's unknown ancestors might have heen a black. Which would explain why James' parents took Sirius in after he ran away from home.
@KyeGuard
@KyeGuard 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andre-vw4yw The movies don't show it, but in the books Harry always began his summers at the Dursleys, even if he eventually went elsewhere for the rest of the summer. Meaning, he still had to call that place home, still had to spend some time there each year in order for the protection to hold. Otherwise he could've, and would've, easily moved in with the Weasely's or, when an option, into Grimwauld Place. He would've been welcome in both households.
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 2 жыл бұрын
And the theory has another very shaky element in its foundation: That the Tale of the Three Brothers is literally true - that there really is a conscious entity that is the Personification of Death, who willfully put a curse on the descendants of one of the brothers out of his own (Death's) resentment at being "cheated". IIRC, the books strongly imply that the story is not literally true - that the Hallows were most likely created by the Brothers themselves, and the legend grew around them over time - as most legends do. Dumbledore wanted Harry with Aunt Petunia for three reasons: 1. The blood protection from Lily, as you mentioned. 2. So that Harry would grow up away from all the fame he would have had if he was raised in the wizarding world by his fourth cousin on his father's side. 3. It's the generally accepted common practice - even among muggles - to send him to his closest living relative. An aunt - his mother's sister - is far closer that anyone on his father's side would have been, even if there were plenty of them still alive.
@JuanMataCFC
@JuanMataCFC 2 жыл бұрын
the idea of Harry living with Voldemort just so he can be invulnerable to Voldemort is the funniest thing i've seen in a while! :D
@prancescoblue1046
@prancescoblue1046 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhilBagels I agree, Dumbledore himself doesn't believe to the idea they actually met Death. And you've added some good points there, protecting Harry from fame is an important one.
@reubenoakley8967
@reubenoakley8967 2 жыл бұрын
"A curse that has destined each family member to DEATH!!!" Ah yes, the curse of mortality
@AlunKahul
@AlunKahul 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the protection came from Lilly’s blood specifically. Meaning James’ relatives were out of the questions. And Petunia was picked out of Lilly’s relatives because since they were sisters the blood was close so the protection was strong. If Harry was sent to say Lilly’s cousin then the distance in the blood would have made for much weaker protection.
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 жыл бұрын
Weak lol the distance... the blood part sounded cool. But i think they chose her because she was blood yes but also because she was muggle.
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 жыл бұрын
Also to teach harry not to be like dudley or his relatives and to be a goid person.
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 2 жыл бұрын
@@franklinfleming1237 I really doubt that, in fact that is the worst part of Dumbledore's choice. It's a fact that hardly any come out of abusive homes just right. Best case, troubled life, hard time relating to others, therapy. Worst case "He was always a quiet guy, never would have thought he could do something like this."
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@insaincaldo voldemort was a racist do you think he would have looked in human homes 4 the wizard who can defeat him
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 2 жыл бұрын
@@franklinfleming1237 Yes, if he had any idea where to start. In fact given time if he came back and didn't already know of Harry going to Hogwarts. He would have probably gone on war on muggles to find him. Exactly because he thinks they are lesser.
@markbrown2640
@markbrown2640 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of missing cousins, shouldn’t there be many more Weasley's at Hogwarts? I thought that Malfoy pér strongly implied that large families are a Weasley tradition. Also, one of Arthur's brothers thought Harry's pollyjuice form at Bill and Fleur's wedding was his son, which implies that there are other teen Wesley's around.
@atk05003
@atk05003 2 жыл бұрын
I just re-read the chapter The Wedding. They disguised Harry and introduced him as a cousin, but the only other mentions of Weasley cousins are both around Auntie Muriel. (This statement is wrong. See my correction below.) First she says "Another Weasley? You breed like gnomes." Later she takes a chair from "Another redheaded Weasley cousin", but the age of that cousin isn't mentioned. It's possible that all of the Weasley cousins are too old or too young to be at Hogwarts while Harry is there. I have some first cousins that are 20+ years older than me. (It's also possible Rowling just never thought about the ages of the Weasley cousins.) Correction: I missed the line about the drunken uncle. However, since the uncle was drunk, we can't be sure how similar Harry looked to that son, so the age still could have been very different.
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 жыл бұрын
@@atk05003 It's possible also that they don't live in the UK and therefore went to different wizarding schools. Actually, you can still go to Durmstrang at least while living in the UK. Lucius considered sending Draco there, but Narcissa put her foot down as she didn't want her son so far away.
@raineredacted161
@raineredacted161 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i dont think JK put to much thought to the size of any of the pureblood families when she was writing.
@jessemontgomery8987
@jessemontgomery8987 Жыл бұрын
Most of the Weasleys died in the first Wizarding war. So no there should not be more Weasley
@BRDoriginal
@BRDoriginal 2 жыл бұрын
I like this theory. But the real question: Is Death an entity that can be hidden from or does the cloak grant immortality?
@andycarter6001
@andycarter6001 2 жыл бұрын
If this curse followed the Potter family, and technically their bloodline, does that mean when Voldemort was resurrected in Goblet using Harry's blood he was a part of that curse too?
@krystaLuvin
@krystaLuvin 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Harry's grandpa Linfried made the Skelegro Potion that Harry benefited from so often and that's why Harry's rich to begin with. lol
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 2 жыл бұрын
So often, as in once?
@krystaLuvin
@krystaLuvin 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjg8763 Isn't it also used to heal broken bones? He's certainly had alot of those in his time at Hogwarts. XD
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 2 жыл бұрын
@@krystaLuvin no. Madam Pomfry can heal broken bones in an instant, but growing them back..... It's very nasty business.
@paulbunion6028
@paulbunion6028 Жыл бұрын
​@@krystaLuvin your half right he made one that helps grow back bones not heal them lol
@mandipandi303
@mandipandi303 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Harry had to go with the Dursleys because it was his mother whose love protected him, so he had to stay with people who were physically related to her to keep that protection. Am I remembering wrong?
@zaidlacksalastname4905
@zaidlacksalastname4905 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much it. Haven't watched the video yet but the comments seem to show this video had a couple mistakes or logical leaps, maybe
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 2 жыл бұрын
No you’re exactly right!
@broccolihighkicks708
@broccolihighkicks708 2 жыл бұрын
Harry couldn’t have lived with anyone else but the Dursleys, Petunia carries Lily’s protection.
@icyada_plays3492
@icyada_plays3492 2 жыл бұрын
Depends, as J pointed out the only ones of the Evans family we know is Lily, Petunia and their parents. For all we know there could be other Aunts, Uncles and cousins on either Mr. or Mrs. Evans side of the family and Rowling just didn't feel like going the extra mile having Dumbledore go seeking for them
@prigg88
@prigg88 2 жыл бұрын
@@icyada_plays3492 no, Lily an Petunia were only two that the Evans had. There could be grand uncles and aunts on Evan's side, giving Harry second cousins. But my guess is that even if there was more family on either side, the love protection charm might be weaker if Harry stayed with them. Lily shares 50% of her DNA with Petunia and their parents & Harry. Dudley and Harry share 12.5%. The further out you go, the less you have in common. I can imagine that maybe protection gets weaker, the less related you are. If the cloak didn't work on muggles why didn't Mr and Mrs Evans live long lives?
@sarahmichelle473
@sarahmichelle473 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not what that was for. Dumbledore put a protection on him that was tied to living with a blood relative to renew it. That was in addition to lily’s protection
@jar-jarsforceghost1352
@jar-jarsforceghost1352 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahmichelle473 nope. If dumbledore was capable of preventing Voldemort from getting to Harry, he could have and would have done the same for Neville and other children of order members. The protection mentioned throughout the book is directly from Lily’s sacrifice
@jar-jarsforceghost1352
@jar-jarsforceghost1352 2 жыл бұрын
He could have lived with whoever. They’re just all dead, we see them in the mirror of erised
@perkinsat
@perkinsat 2 жыл бұрын
I always love the way you read the passages from the book. I imagine that, someday, the audiobook will come out read by you.
@norakropp_
@norakropp_ 2 жыл бұрын
You guys always help me through hard times, thank you! To put it lightly, I’m kind of struggling right now and your videos always made me smile :)
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 2 жыл бұрын
hope things get better for you. sending virtual hugs
@norakropp_
@norakropp_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvy16 aw thank you!!
@blueninja2944
@blueninja2944 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Sarah-ws5gx
@Sarah-ws5gx 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you are doing well!
@mentallybizare
@mentallybizare 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet 🥲
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 2 жыл бұрын
When Dumbledore chose the Dursleys, he chose them for the bond of blood. In order for the bond of blood to form, the new house owner has to be blood-related to LILY, not James. James didn't bestow sacrificial protection onto Lily or Harry. So any of James' relatives wouldn't have been good enough to make the bond of blood.
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anything in this series that doesn't have to do with Death? Next you'll be saying Hedwig had a run-in with Death. ...Wait a minute.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 жыл бұрын
😱
@mentallybizare
@mentallybizare 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
This is a bit weird for me if my parents died when I was younger, I only have an auntie alive, I have other much more distant family but they are estranged (I don't mean like Beatrix), and I'm pretty sure I don't have a curse from Death themselves on me. So maybe it was just the potters had drifted away, I imagine Lily's parents would be weirded out by her new husband etc.
@thesimslover82884
@thesimslover82884 2 жыл бұрын
Lily's parents weren't against her being a witch. They were excited for her, and amazed. Her sister was the jealous/prejudiced one.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 2 жыл бұрын
They were probably gone by the time she married James. This is especially likely given that they were gone by the time Harry was orphaned and he was only a year old when they died.
@jimmygregory8047
@jimmygregory8047 2 жыл бұрын
Harry did have at least one living cousin, Voldemort, but I’m guessing Dumbledore might not have wanted to leave Harry with a vapor form of Voldemort to raise him
@amberherrod6110
@amberherrod6110 2 жыл бұрын
I always think this. Slytherins locket IS the resurrection stone so Voldemort could well be Harry’s relative. Not many people think this and it’s never mentioned that the resurrection stone is passed down the family lines and Salazar is a distant peverell. It could also be that the 2nd brother had no kids with his love being dead (unless they had kids before). But it is possible and I’m surprised no-one ever mentions this
@Chikararyoku
@Chikararyoku 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed your mistake. Harry did not drop the cloak, he stuffed it in his own clothes. when he got up, in the books, he put on his cloak he dropped his cloak when he faced Voldemort for the final time
@thepuzzleoracle6760
@thepuzzleoracle6760 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!! The final battle started with Neville beheading the snake and Harry disappeared in all the mayhem. But that’s just in the books, unfortunately.
@karlisalandi7891
@karlisalandi7891 2 жыл бұрын
Just came into comments for this exact thing :D
@collinmadden4874
@collinmadden4874 2 жыл бұрын
@@karlisalandi7891 same
@Chikararyoku
@Chikararyoku 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepuzzleoracle6760 and another part about this theory, Harry needed a blood relative of his mother since she gave her life to protect him, not a distant relative of his father
@thestorysaurus
@thestorysaurus 2 жыл бұрын
At 10:09 when he said The Invisibility Cloak, I literally gasped out load, it all clicked in my head XD
@pendragonfan42
@pendragonfan42 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why i expected the brothers’ encounter with death to have been so long ago but going from that to the 1980s in less than 10 generations seems rather intense to me
@vladimiramatejova1796
@vladimiramatejova1796 2 жыл бұрын
it is not 10 generations to the 3 brothers it is 10 generations to the first/last peverel in the potter family
@jonasfilmstudio
@jonasfilmstudio Жыл бұрын
10:09 THE WAY I GOT LITERAL GOOSEBUMPS when I realized where this is going!!! Ofc it makes so much sense. Only the one with the invisibility cloak was able to escape death 🤯🤯
@chrisventimiglia3763
@chrisventimiglia3763 2 жыл бұрын
The charm protecting Harry was sealed from LILLYS blood .... had zero to do with the Potter line .... this whole video is flawed....
@TheAwsomeness324
@TheAwsomeness324 2 жыл бұрын
Every now and then I take a brief moment to take a good look at y’all’s background to spot any new things you’ve added to the collection. Always a pleasant surprise noticing how beaten it was before and how packed with items it is now. Takes me back to the days y’all hadn’t hit a million subs yet. Always quality content from both you brothers and your team.
@raulnatokapa
@raulnatokapa 2 жыл бұрын
Well they are speaking that death was aligned with the Potter family, not the Evans, although the sacrifice was from the Evans family side
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea but I think you're completely wrong here. Harry had to live with Petunia because she was Lily's blood relative, the Potter line wasn't. They might be some distant Potters still alive but they wouldn't matter because they're not connected to Lily in any way.
@angiepangie1989
@angiepangie1989 Жыл бұрын
Harry had the cloak with him after he died. When Hagrid carried him back to Hogwarts and Neville killed Nagini, Harry hid under the cloak to move towards the castle unseen. Hagrid yells out “where’s Harry?!” In the middle of all the chaos. Harry finally whips off the cloak for his final battle with Voldemort. 14:29
@maryjoyspohrer256
@maryjoyspohrer256 2 жыл бұрын
As many others have stated, it is LILY who's sacrifice saved Harry. So it's LILY's family that has to be turned to and unfortunately that falls to Petunia as I don't think that there are any other children in that family. It does beg the question of who introduced the 'wizarding gene' into the bloodline though.
@g.p.s-yourfunishere6635
@g.p.s-yourfunishere6635 2 жыл бұрын
Yas! Finally here when one just drops! Woohoo!
@wolverinefangowings
@wolverinefangowings 2 жыл бұрын
14:30 Incorrect. He shoves it under his tshirt. That's why he has it in the final battle. He leaves the Stone behind.
@followeroc2
@followeroc2 2 жыл бұрын
All this talk of genealogy had me wondering if Hogwarts will ever have a Dursley attending. The Evans family has already produced Lily, maybe Dudley an Evans descendant will have magical children.
@BI-11y_TheStormTrooper
@BI-11y_TheStormTrooper 2 жыл бұрын
Albus Potter looking at his other siblings: it's highlander rules around here, there can be only one !
@JonPITBZN
@JonPITBZN 2 жыл бұрын
Fleamont and Euphemia probably named their kid James because they had experience growing up with uncommon and easily-mocked names.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 жыл бұрын
I think one question is are you saying it killed off all families including Marriages and in laws?
@verylostdoommarauder
@verylostdoommarauder 7 ай бұрын
I like how both guesses for Lily’s parents are Pokémon characters
@badongo328
@badongo328 9 ай бұрын
A couple of things; 1) as others have mentioned, Lily's protection existed via her bloodline so Harry would've had to stay with her family and since Petunia is her direct sister from the same parents it's only logical her blood is the strongest to enforce the enchantment. 2) Petunia was extremely jealous of Lily's magic- as we know, but she also mentions the rest of her family was thrilled to have a witch in the family meaning they knew magic existed. I highly doubt she was the only Evans to ever grace the halls of Hogwarts so my best guess is that another in her family was also accepted at some point. Sure, Lily was muggle born but that only means HER parents had no magical ability not that no one in her entire bloodline didn't. Given how unpleasant Petunia is in general I think it's actually pretty likely Petunia actively chose to ignore the rest of her freak loving family and cut them off. 3) Petunia knew about the enchantment on Harry as Dumbledore explained everything in his letter. Same was also probably terrified of getting rid of him knowing full well the extent wizards can go when they're displeased. And finally, 4) Harry probably does have distant relatives scattered around the UK if not the world. The British held the largest empire in history colonizing a territory encompassing 1/4 of the then global population before WW2. Harry's extended family is probably all over the place
@hannatammy8217
@hannatammy8217 2 жыл бұрын
To everyone commenting that the premise of the video doesn’t work because Petunia would have to be Harry’s guardian as the closest blood relative of Lily I think that’s a valid point in regards to a reason why it doesn’t matter if Harry has plenty of relatives on the Potter side of the family. But the theory of a curse of death on the potter family can still hold when considering how popular the surname potter is, yet we meet no one else in hogwarts or the broader wizarding world with that surname. Nor do we meet anyone who mentions they are related to Harry by blood in some way when a fair amount of characters concerned with lineages and blood purity, family connections etc. (and not just death eaters either e.g. Lockhart, Slughorn etc.) like you would certainly think that in a family tree that large, someone would want everyone to know they were related to the chosen one, even if it was just as second or third cousins (and beyond).
@ericacook2862
@ericacook2862 2 жыл бұрын
The prophecy was about both Neville and Harry. Neither boy could live while the other, Voldemort survived.
@AbstractlyDelen
@AbstractlyDelen 2 жыл бұрын
Literally if the author had just made James and Lily 30 when they died, it would have just made things make more sense. The casting is literally LITERALLY perfect for the movies, and having had them die off so young felt like something she did and regretted writing, because it creates plot holes at times
@Camphorous
@Camphorous 2 жыл бұрын
The books were written at a time when 30 was considered very old for a first pregnancy. 21-25 was much more normal and 36 was thought to be too old for more children period. It was also a time when contraceptives were banned in some places and the housing market was good, people would finish school at 18, date for a few years, marry at 20/21 and immediately start a family.
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 2 жыл бұрын
one thing important to realise is that dumbledore wouldn’t want to drop harry off at james 6th cousins 2nd uncles sons house even if they are kind people. Most of their family tree wouldn’t even know who harry is, and also due to all the muggle and wizard wars, their family just wouldn’t be that big when harry’s parents died.
@Randude14
@Randude14 2 жыл бұрын
SCB drinking game: take a shot everytime J makes a death joke
@georggggggge
@georggggggge 2 жыл бұрын
i just thought of some ideas for future videos maybe if you havent done them already, are there any forgivable curses?, are there spells other than the killing curse that could instantly kill someone?, and would harry and ron still have befriended hermione if she hadnt took blame for the troll incedent?
@dannineal7227
@dannineal7227 2 жыл бұрын
J making fun of Fleamont and Euphemia's names offended every marauders stan out there
@iamagamer2349
@iamagamer2349 2 жыл бұрын
First, also I've been watching you channel for the last 10 years and I love your videos
@txferretgirl
@txferretgirl Жыл бұрын
so as with how nobility often went, only the ones in the direct line were really considered close family. So he likely has relatives out there but not in a way where they really know them all that well enough to be considered as close as petunia was. There also could have been concerns with a wizarding family extorting harry for his fame.
@christymayhew844
@christymayhew844 2 жыл бұрын
This could also also play into the theory of Harry being THE CURSED CHILD.
@garethbaird650
@garethbaird650 2 жыл бұрын
Finally get to watch this one 10 days after it being uploaded 😁 I just binge watched everyone of the supercarlinbrothers harry potter play list
@JimmyMFP
@JimmyMFP 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly related: I always wondered if the Dursley's address had a secret keeper after Harry was dropped off at 4 Privet Drive? Because, to my knowledge, they can only be tracked down when they leave the house in the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone. Otherwise, what was stopping all the dark witches and wizards who thought Harry was a greater version of Voldemort?
@rklong1790
@rklong1790 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not at home to check the book. My current recall is that HP dropped the Stone then swooped off the Invisibility cloak and shoved it into his pocket just before revealing himself to Voldemort. I am remembering a line 2 chapters later as he wakes up and is checking himself for injury feels the cloak and his wand still in his pockets underneath his body. (I've wondered how big are pockets in wizard's clothing that they can hold a whole other cloak without anyone noticing?) I do remember the movie plays out minus the cloak this way.
@everytimefreddielaughs
@everytimefreddielaughs 2 жыл бұрын
I love Clay and Laurie Evans - Never ever ever heard either of those first names in England hahahahaha
@littlefoot5013
@littlefoot5013 2 жыл бұрын
You are right, it's a bit odd that all the Potters (James's family) and even Mr. and Mrs. Evans (who seemed more open to the magical world) all happened to be dead by the time of November 1st, 1981.
@donniehernandez5496
@donniehernandez5496 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the evading Voldemort 3 times refers to the way the Peverell brothers having each evaded death that day on the bridge, and being born at the end of July would probably be a reference to the time when the original event described in the deathly hallows story would have taken place.
@MK_-lh3pp
@MK_-lh3pp 2 жыл бұрын
Voldemort: you and your mudblood mother Harry: youre more mudblood than me
@air1fire
@air1fire 2 жыл бұрын
It feels so good to see clips from actually good movies ☺️
@Martyn_Wolf
@Martyn_Wolf 2 жыл бұрын
The protection only stems from his mothers blood in which Petunia has in her veins as Lily and Pentunia have a close enough genetic blood match, other family members that Lily would have in terms of blood wouldn't be a direct blood match for the protection to work.
@ForeverKite42
@ForeverKite42 2 жыл бұрын
Also saves the poor Weasley's from dying by this curse as well lol
@Roald13th
@Roald13th 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite all time jokes from this channel: When Jonathan envisions watching fb, and then you hear "HARRY POTTER" The other one definitely is during the countdown of inconvenient plot devices, and at number one Ben says how convenient the whole thing is Ben: So here it is, Draco disarms Dumbledore, who then has his wand stolen by Harry. Thus making Harry the true master. Harry: it's mine.
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that death left petunia alone as a way of tormenting Harry.
@jacksonmcnuggets7488
@jacksonmcnuggets7488 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you guys review some of the Harry Potter games
@aumathewarriormouse2549
@aumathewarriormouse2549 2 жыл бұрын
Lily -There's a lot of different lillies and the species should matter. Asphodels are the ancient Greek flower of the underworld of course but Easter lillies are the flower of resurrection so... As for James being a super common male name, I think HP may have single handedly shrunk those numbers 😂
@yvonnerogers6429
@yvonnerogers6429 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. The lack of family, however, doesn’t explain why Dumbledore never bothered to vet Petunia and, upon discovering that she would abuse Harry, ask Hermione’s parents to take Harry in. I guess it’s a combination of Dumbledore being an…intriguing sort of hero and the greatest magic of all: the necessities of good storytelling. Thanks for the video.
@aliceforsmark5147
@aliceforsmark5147 2 жыл бұрын
Okay no but this is scary, I was thinking about this yesterday and now you come with answers?!?!!
@TheLunarSystem1988
@TheLunarSystem1988 Жыл бұрын
This is a fun thought. Though in the movie you are told that the Dursleys really are the only family he has left that he needs to be away from the wizarding world so he does not grow up famed and spoiled.
@nolanmejia5510
@nolanmejia5510 2 жыл бұрын
In Lupin and Snape’s defense they were major players is a wizard if civil war while they were in their 20s. Considering that they look pretty good
@matthoward222
@matthoward222 2 жыл бұрын
Harry doesn't drop the invisibility cloak in the forest. He even puts it on again right when Neville kills Nagini and stays hidden under it watching the battle continue until all of Voldemort's followers are defeated, and then he reveals himself for the final showdown with Voldemort.
@JohnMacy
@JohnMacy 2 жыл бұрын
Whom is Death is what we should ask? Where did "death" come from? Or the origin of majic itself.
@davidcoplon3056
@davidcoplon3056 2 жыл бұрын
But... it had to be Lilly's side of the family to work. Lilly's blood... of corse none of the pure blood relations even if they are all related to him on james side would work. And if I remember correctly the potter's were excluded from the sacred on a technicality of there name beign tooundane to count. Since any muggle could be named potter.
@ShootNowAskLater01
@ShootNowAskLater01 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t drop the cloak in the forest. He dropped the Resurrection Stone. He put the cloak in his waistband with his wand.
@kristachapis2488
@kristachapis2488 Жыл бұрын
Petunia is an Evans not a Potter, so she would not be part of the Potter curse in addition to being nonmagical
@knitcrochettiger361
@knitcrochettiger361 2 жыл бұрын
wow, to think of it....in the story, when the youngest brother gave the cloak to his son, that is when Death found him.....when James Potter loaned the cloak to Dumbledore, Death took him.....if Harry gives the cloak to one of his kids, that's when he will die.
@MissusChanandlerBong
@MissusChanandlerBong 6 ай бұрын
Also you could argue that the curse was lifted when Ignotus failed to have any male heirs left (no grandsons) and only granddaughters when facing death
@flurrries
@flurrries 2 жыл бұрын
Is it a gun? (Day 5 of asking)
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 жыл бұрын
You're not funny.
@ОльгаПетрова-у5з
@ОльгаПетрова-у5з 2 жыл бұрын
All about Evans' protection was already said by commentators, but I would add also that as I remember Dumbledore somewhere said that it would bad idea to give little Harry to any wizard because he's too famous in the magical world and would have bad impact to his personality
@PaulieLauraXombie1331
@PaulieLauraXombie1331 6 ай бұрын
Harry had blood protection is was legitimately stated, And their only option at the time. Hiding Harry with anyone other than a muggle would have led to an early death. Lily and Petunia had a strained relationship all their lives yet she still underwent the protection charm to hide Harry. Petunia wasn't the greatest aunt but we definitely have her to thank for Harry's survival.
@shoshanarubinstein2354
@shoshanarubinstein2354 2 жыл бұрын
I love your text additions, can you please keep them up for more than 1 second. I have to change playback speed to at least .75 to be able to pause on the right frame and read them
@futuresonex
@futuresonex 2 жыл бұрын
One correction, Harry did not leave the Invisibility Cloak behind. He hid it under his robes. That's how he had it available to him when he decided it was time to stop playing dead and get back into the fight. Also, he was unconscious, not dead.
@kzapjaze
@kzapjaze 2 жыл бұрын
Can see lots of comments that he had to live with Lily's family because of the blood protection, but even so you would expect that if James has close living family they would want to visit and check up on him (even if just a Birthday present/yearly visit). If James had an Uncle, Aunt or Cousin (maybe Euphemia's brother or sister or their child) then they would likely at least show some interest in their young cousin, this would likely have resulted in Harry being moved to Dudley's spare room earlier (either because the Dursley's didn't want to be found out or because they were found out but because of the blood magic he couldn't be removed just watched over) or in Harry moving in with them. How far do the Blood Wards extend? Could a relative have moved in next door and Harry spend most of his time with them but had to go "home" each night to sleep at the Dursleys? Could a larger property have been obtained with Harry and a more distant but kinder relative living on one floor and the Dursleys on another? Or did Harry need to be in the cupboard for Dumbledore's plan (and if so is that justification?)
@jamespue171
@jamespue171 2 жыл бұрын
How about the fact Dumbledore said that the dersleys where the last remaining family members(maybe it was Dumbledore twisting it to make sure harry was able to be In a muggle family as he knew harry had to defeat (he who much need not be named) Voldemort
@pinkski1795
@pinkski1795 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 “which MEANS - I’m just gonna say it - Lupin looks REALLY bad for 33. Same for you, Snape! No excuses!” okay that was funny but that being said - Alan Rickman, if you’re watching from beyond the grave, or wherever things go when they’re vanished (into non-being, which is to say, everything), please don’t take this harshly. We all love you and think you look striking for the age at which you played Snape. HOWEVER, since Snape’s character is so mean (even though he totally gets redemption in the Deathly Hallows), it IS extremely rewarding to roast his character in fan-made videos and the comments sections therein! RIP Alan
@KevinTatum80
@KevinTatum80 2 жыл бұрын
I glad someone finally did a video on this, its the #1 thing that's bugged me about HP
@BlackVeilSavior
@BlackVeilSavior 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with Dumbledore’s wish for Harry to grow up outside of the wizard world and also petunia is still lilies next of kin so between ai no magic environment, no celebrity spotlight, a Muggle “Blindspot“ for dark magic, and also not bothering to track down third fourth or fifth cousins…she was the best bet.
@kennethmiller81
@kennethmiller81 2 жыл бұрын
Harry's parents were killed at my age..... I can't even fathom having a child at this point in my life
@Zapporah85
@Zapporah85 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think this is one of the better theories you guys have ever come up with.
@ThaliaVitalis
@ThaliaVitalis 2 жыл бұрын
"Weasley style, amiright?" 🤣🤣👌🏻
@fulkthered
@fulkthered 2 жыл бұрын
I always had a secret hope that somewhere before the end of the books that Rowling would write in a plot twist about Petunia actually having magic powers but she rejected them and they only manifested under extreme conditions. Maybe when the dementor attacked Dudley it could have been Petunia that saved him.
@PurpleAmharicCoffee
@PurpleAmharicCoffee 2 жыл бұрын
My first car was named Lily, second car named Poppy. It seems that anything I end up liking has some sort of morbid twist I find out about later.
@RikkuEcRud
@RikkuEcRud 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory, but I think it was probably a lot simpler than that. The Potters were a Light family, coming off the tail end of two nearly back to back conflicts with Dark Lords, where many Light witches and wizards died. Petunia was the only option because Lily was the one who cast the blood magic and she didn't have any Potter blood, so Petunia and Dudley were the only living people to share Lily's blood. It probably could have been supported by just Dudley by putting him and Harry together with some family who would have treated them both right, but Dumbledore isn't about to kidnap Dudley from his parents to do that. Keep in mind that Harry _does_ have wizarding relatives, there's at minimum Charlus Potter in the Black family tree, making Sirius, Andromeda, Nymphadora, Narcissa, Draco and Bellatrix all living, if distant, cousins of his, not to mention any families related through the Black family like the Weasleys, Longbottoms or Crouches.
@quincyking010
@quincyking010 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it possible that there is no known blood relation to Harry. Just like how the descendents of the founders are lost to time the ignotace kids are most likely lost to time. And odds are the potters probably have branch families but just because they are somewhat related doesn't actually make them family. I always imagined that some of the potters branded families sided with voldy and maybe even disowned James and lily
@DarkLordGanondorf190
@DarkLordGanondorf190 2 жыл бұрын
Granted, it was before I even knew just HOW DEADLY the real pox were, but at first I thought Dragon Pox sounded comedic. Like you would break out in colourful scales for a bit and that's it. When I learned that Harry's grandparents died to them.... Ooof... While a curse would be pretty cool, sometimes, especially the further back you go, death was,well, just part of life. My great-grandmother had 12 children, one of them is my grandfather and I had four great aunts and uncles. The other children died, mostly in infancy. Only one died after having kids of her own. That part of the family tree could have been massive, but alas...
@sophiepomerleau708
@sophiepomerleau708 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine J having to cut the awkward moment where he’s changing places 😂👌🏻
@johneubanks6005
@johneubanks6005 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I have been wondering about this for awhile.
@donikebab86
@donikebab86 2 жыл бұрын
I recently noticed how much you switch from one side to the other and now I can't stop thinking of you pausing your lines between every other sentence to scooch over to the other side of frame and how much there would be to cut 😂
@jossposs3400
@jossposs3400 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that's a trick to make editing easier. If you mess up your lines there will be _a lot_ of footage, but if you switch side after finally nailing said line it will be much easier to find when you're editing.
@Mukation
@Mukation Жыл бұрын
It was Lilys love spell that protected Harry. A Potter line relative would not protect him, only an Evans = Petunia and Dudley are the closest. Also, James may have been the last male Potter line left, all others probably fizzled out into female lines (thus changing the names). Harry has many relatives, being from a pureblood family he is absolutly related to both the other big pure blood families: Weasleys, the Blacks and the Malfoys. In his generation he juat doesn't have any other close relative like his Aunt Petunia and first cousin Dudley.
@milanthedragon
@milanthedragon 2 жыл бұрын
It could also be that it has to do with how grindewald was obsessed with the deathly hallows
@monomanamaniac
@monomanamaniac 2 жыл бұрын
I could imagine James dad was like "no, he will have a normal name" lol
@chtal64147
@chtal64147 2 жыл бұрын
You know, a lot of the times lies have some truth in it. Petunia said Lily and James Potter died in a car accident. What if that's the dead of her parents? She could say James and Lily were with her parents in the car so Harry wouldn't ask questions. But it's true. You would think there would be more Potters. Even if the protection spell only works with Petunia, when Harry came to school, why doesn't dumbledore contact the rest of his family? He could have contact with the rest of the family. Learn more about his parents and family. But even after the war, we hear nothing about the other Potters. Didn't they go to hogwarts? Couldn't mcgonagall contact them after the war. I would want to know about my family past if I was Harry. Specially after everything that happend. Looking at how much Lily and James did for the order of the feniks, wouldn't there be more Potters to help there cousin? Or wouldn't there be Potters in the death eaters? It would make for some drama.
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