Is Beauty And The Beast The Best Live Action Remake? | REVIEW

Beauty and the Beast is Disney's latest live action remake, but is it as good as all the hype suggests? Today J and Ben give their full SPOILER review of Beauty and the Beast
Hey Super Carlin Friends! ►► bit.ly/196DDlu
Google Autofill Playlist ►► bit.ly/1DCdQNm
Theories ►► bit.ly/1z5uZcS
Super Carlin Gaming ►► bit.ly/1CRM5Bq
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BECOME A SUPER CARLIN FRIEND➜ / supercarlinbrothers
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
FOLLOW US:
T W I T T E R➜ / jonkerlin & / scb_ben
I N S T A G R A M➜ / jonkerlin & / scb_ben
F A C E B O O K➜ / supercarlinbrothers
G A M I N G ➜ bit.ly/1CRM5Bq
P A T R E O N ➜ / supercarlinbrothers
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Want to send us something?
Super Carlin Brothers
PO Box 4339
Roanoke, Virginia 24015
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Business Inquiries Only: [e-mail]
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Every time you give us a thumbs up a Narwhal gets its horn! (maybe..)

[@SonnieTravels]

I felt like the big deal about why Belle's father didn't want to speak about the death of his wife wasn't just because she died of the plague, but rather that he had to leave her to die alone. Can you imagine that level of heartache? He sacrificed his last moments with the woman he loved for the chance to possibly save his child (which obviously we can look back on and say was a good decision in retrospect). Moments where she suffered and died a terrible death alone. He wasn't there to ensure she was buried, he has no idea what happened to her body or how much longer she survived after he left. That's a heavy burden to bear.

[@hairmunsta9788]

Sonnie Travels you are the only person to say this. Thank you. I thought it was obvious lol

[@SonnieTravels]

Danielle Smith I thought so too! I was actually surprised when watching this how much I disagreed with of the critiques the brothers had. LaFou can be both intelligent and illiterate. Adam in the beginning can include "diverse" women in this balls, but still be a bad guy (he just values youth and beauty and apparently isn't racist. That doesn't make him a good person). And the Beast can have embraced his animal side (notice how he created a nest in his bedroom) with the idea that he was no longer deserving of behaving like a proper prince, but still be well educated. On and on.

[@amandapowell3331]

Sonnie Travels finally!! listening to these guys rag on one of the most heartfelt parts annoyed the crap out of me!! they said they watched this twice but they obviously we're not listening

[@SonnieTravels]

Amanda Powell Maybe they're emotionally stunted ;) JK, Brothers! (just in case they read this stuff. which I hope they do!)

[@lillypieisme]

Sonnie Travels So true. And the brothers said that they don't see how being in a city versus being in a village relates dying from a plague. I'm pretty sure the plague was spread by rats in the city. Being in a small village with agriculture and fresh air and cleanliness I'm sure gave Belle and her father a less chance of catching the plague, which is why Maurice says small means safe. It all makes perfect sense to me.

[@alexandramarch926]

is nobody going to comment on how Cogsworth after reuniting with his wife wanted to be changed into clock again? I thought it was hilarious 😂😂

[@eclair723]

Alexandra Russo I know right? That part was hilarious😂

[@alamandamooney2571]

I loved that! He was having none of it and I got a good laugh.

[@emilyanderson5188]

Alexandra Russo Same!! I loved that part 😂

[@sofiag4298]

Alexandra Russo I loved that they included that scene!

[@ambiwhats2030]

Alexandra Russo that was my favorite part

[@swillylilly]

i disagree with the idea that Beast is educated but can't use a spoon... HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF THOSE PAWS? seriously it's probably like trying to hold a barbie spoon.

[@AnzuMiruku]

He has also lived in miserable solitude for years so his table manners probably flew out the window long ago.

[@taylorlimon4801]

lliillyy that is exactly what I was thinking.

[@tan89284]

I agree, when a girl gets her nails done and gets fake attached acrylic nails, applying makeup or fake lashes with those nails takes time getting used too. Imagine big beastly hands with long claws trying to hold a tony spoon and only get small drops of food at a time, by the time he gets halfway through it, the soup would be cold lol

[@soritahin1283]

that's what i thought too, and nobody there so he can eat however he want. while reading could be something he like or do it out of boredom.

[@lilymanders5178]

lliillyy 😂😂😂 ikr

[@Eva-kl3fy]

Me: "What? This is 43 minutes long? I don't have the time to watch this!!!" Me: Watches the entire video, while talking to the screen passionately....

[@thescarletteve]

And 34 seconds

[@SonnieTravels]

Another moment of defense for Maurice if I may, when he told Gaston that he'd never marry his daughter, he had literally JUST witnessed his temper and LaFou calm Gaston down by having him remember the horrors of war (thought apparently not so horrible for Gaston) and all of the widows he slept with there! Also, obviously Belle and Maurice have an incredibly close relationship and discuss many things. I'm confident that she would have vented to him previously about her feelings about Gaston's pursuit of her. You saw in the beginning how much she detested the idea of being his wife and I'm sure Maurice knew about that.

[@sunnygirl523]

Sonnie Travels I freakin love that part where he told Gaston that he will never marry his daughter and when Gaston put him in the wagon to go to the asylum and said to him just give me ur daughter's hand and I'll set u free and Maurice said never :)

[@SonnieTravels]

Brittany Weaver I totally agree! he had such an air of confidence and resolve in that moment. I loved how they changed and evolved his character from the original.

[@sunnygirl523]

Sonnie Travels same here 😁

[@kl-1447]

Sonnie Travels his character in the animated version was the really odd, awkward, no social skills, but kind and friendly type. But he was much better in the live action

[@keegsalex6285]

Yes! An anger issue is probably one of the worst attributes a father could see in a potential future son in law. Even though it was a bit out of place for Maurice to say it to Gastone like that (especially if he does have anger issues), it at least can show the audience that Maurice can see that something is not quite right with this guy.

[@carolynjoyce]

my mom and I saw it last night; we both thought Gaston was a lot more human-like and likable at the start, and it kinda seemed like while the Beast was becoming less of a beast and more of a man, Gaston was becoming less of a man and more of a beast.

[@booklover4330]

Parallel! Love it. XD.

[@lillow671]

Carolyn Joyce that's the point. Gaston is hot, but it's about what's on the inside.

[@emc246]

Carolyn Joyce And in the end the "Man" killed the "Beast" and Beast killed the man.

[@rhymedelacruz5766]

Thanks for pointing out that Luke Evans is a hottie

[@carolynjoyce]

XD I must admit, at the start Gaston was very charming...up till the point that he socked Maurice in the face, tied him up, and left him to be eaten by wolves...XD

[@ashenfire9033]

I love that as they were locking Maurice in the carrige, you can hear someone yell "This man needs a hospital, not an asylum!!" Great mental health positivity moment :)

[@jimbolic0809]

The person who said it is the same person Belle borrowed her books from, which suggests he is the only other educated person in the village. Furthermore, he is also the only one who helps Belle pick up her laundry off the ground when the townspeople dumped her clothes there and ruined her invention. I love these little details.

[@Abig8tor]

I could be wrong, but I think he was also the priest. When Belle went to his "library" I think I saw a cross and candles and things!

[@thenamelessdragon]

Natasha Honcharik He is the 'father' (priest) of the village. That is why he's called Pere Robert, because Pere means father in french

[@ashenfire9033]

cool I didn't know it was the same character that said that!

[@Ez-dp5uq]

Jimmy Dinh yes but that is also the start of the village turning against gaston

[@emilyjohnson1626]

You forgot that Lefo's line in the mob song changed. It said "There's a beast in running wild there's no question, but I fear the wrong monster's released".

[@PrincessMeggala0913]

That was SUCH a great addition!

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

Yes, that was the best change in the movie. His character changed so much and it is nice to finally see lefou originally a sidekick to gaston see what a monster is and is changing his loyalty. It also shows a moral code that the original did not have.

[@idahagen9760]

Yes! That is one of the best changes of the movie!

[@starfirehestia7823]

When Gaston fell, there was a little boy who said, "That's what you get! That's what you get for shooting him! Now don't come back up here and shoot him again!"

[@sydneyaustralia9385]

Starfire Hestia hahahaha

[@thediamondkid4320]

Starfire Hestia Haahahhahahah! I was in the cinema with my friends and when Gaston fell to his death, two of my friends were clapping. I was like: lol. Lol. Lol. Then my friend told me: 'If the castle was alive at that moment. *dabs endlessly*'

[@claire1416]

Starfire Hesita i told my friend that i wanted him 'to fall to his death i have dark soul"

[@jhardman1876]

When I saw it, a little kid just said in the dead silence of the theater, "He's dead." The entire theater just cracked up XD

[@chicagodoggo3242]

A kid in my theatre was like, bad bad bad! And everyone laughed

[@Freaksoftheinternet]

I thought LeFou was so much more likable in this movie than in the cartoon. Which isn't necessarily because cartoon Lefou was really bad, but he never had that redeeming moment during the castle battle, and he never really had a personality or any... depth. Josh Gad did a great job bringing that character to life more and making him relatable. But not being able to spell Gaston was part of the original song so... yeah that's why he couldn't spell it. Though I liked the way he messed it up better in the cartoon.

[@-aeshe-4951]

Freaksoftheinternet ya the mess up part, I think they used a bit more sarcasm or satire or a dark and realistic humor on this one. In the movie. The whole movie seemed to be a wise ass perspective of the animated Beauty and the Beast

[@E3WEINER]

Freaksoftheinternet I agree LeFou had a lot of depth and I thought the idea of him being gay filled out his character well

[@jsquad4614]

0

[@E3WEINER]

Matthew Spencer it's not in the original cartoon but I f you listen to the soundtrack they took out parts of that song in the movie. I was confused too when I first listened to it on Pandora and it was extended.

[@Freaksoftheinternet]

Matthew Spencer it is in the original. at the very end it goes "And his name's G-A-S...T.... G-A-S-T-O.... oh well. Gastooooonnn!!!"

[@taramalanga8164]

Historically speaking, small towns were much safer from the plague than cities. (Fewer rats, bug, animals, and people and therefore fewer vectors for the disease.) Royalty used to flee to the country during plagues... so the "safe in a small town" thing kind of makes sense.

[@kucukkalabalik]

Tara Malanga THANK YOU!

[@zoee3196]

I know

[@areoivy]

It's true. It's not something we think about today, but when people travelled rarely and with great difficulty going to a small town meant isolating oneself from everything- including exposure to disease. It was such a different time. This is more true the further back you go

[@Kiki-hb9sw]

Tara Malanga that's what I was thinking

[@ellabarrere2870]

KUDOS! Well said!

[@dragoncake4653]

when Gaston was stepping on the cabbages i yelled "MY CABBAGES"

[@sunnygirl523]

DragonCake yes lol 😂😂😂

[@dragoncake4653]

one of my best childhood memories XD

[@skylarsfunfilms]

Lovely

[@supermodelzdancerie]

avatar !

[@lifewiththatonepreppy]

I do

[@davi37005]

I don't get why they autotuned her voice so much. I saw some behind the scenes and I found her natural voice pretty much better than the autotuned one.

[@livaozolina5061]

davi silva

[@squydd]

agreed!!!!

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

oooo will have to look that up

[@nathansmith6380]

davi silva IKR

[@FikriJust]

watch Beauty and the Beast here plus.google.com/u/5/b/113810295763534146048/113810295763534146048/posts/HLzc1teKVc2

[@meadowcarbone4383]

The reason the prince welcomed all the diverse people is because they were still good looking he didn't care about their race just if they looked pretty

[@diblock]

rainbowmeadow1026 also that they were rich

[@thispurplebeanYT]

you are both SO right!

[@keegster7167]

But still it was weird because they looked so different from the 1991 version and were unrecognisable from that version Beauty and the Beast (2017) is obviously trying to be Beauty and the Beast (1991) as much as possible so that's why it doesn't make sense to me), and it was set in Europe at least 200 years ago, where other races were scarce to find in Europe (relatively: there were still some).

[@lauraosullivan2752]

rainbowmeadow1026 he probably let them go to his ball because they were rich

[@jacobhowson5501]

judging from the time era; he could have owned them. probably not what they were going for, but that would explain why they were in France in the first place.

[@loverofmusic3210]

I love the review guys, but if you think about it, the plague was a big city problem at the time the movie takes place. Because Paris (although amazing now), wasn't all bells and whistles. Because of sanitation problems, the plague was far more likely to happen in heavily populated cities than tiny villages at the time. Just thought I'd mention.

[@sigridbjergbakkemeyer3653]

It is true - epidemics is density dependent. Big city with high population density equal large spread of diseases

[@DancingCorvid]

Let's Kill Time I agree but also because of merchants that could have lived in the town and because of the silk road there is a pretty sound chance that the plague would wipe out the town as well, although it seems that at the time the movie was taking place the plague was gone.

[@twilyghtmattera8448]

SO did a quick google to figure this out. The black death is split into three major pandemic periods that nearly wiped out all population regardless of city vs town. Between those times the plague was epizootic. Meaning it was mostly smaller cases in largely populated areas due. So yeah small town would be safer. I really think Disney did much more in depth research.

[@klainedify]

Gaston shooting the beast from behind is foreshadowed in Gaston's song. There's a whole new verse where Gaston describes his hunting tactics include sneaking up behind the animal and shooting them in the liver. LeFou asks "is that fair?" Gaston answers "I don't care." This hints that during the fight Gaston is going to shoot the beast in the back and isn't going to fight fare. Also, Disney never named the beast. It's just the beast. Not Adam.

[@Author-RKLight]

klainedify the original movie named him Prince Adam even if it wasn’t explicit Adam is the Beasts canon name

[@bluelightningwings]

I think the reason they add the part about Belle losing her mother is because the servants reveal that the Beast lost his mother as a child and they stood by and let his father turn him into a brat. Therefore Belle and the Beast both lost their mothers at a young age and this is another connection point for them

[@thenamelessdragon]

Blue Lightning I

[@yasminload63]

I didnt mind that they added parts about her mother, but to me it felt rushed and disjointed whenever the subject came up.

[@KokujoMata]

*Whisper* martha

[@kayleighgould3793]

An Equalist yaaaas

[@sarahkline8829]

Hufflepuff Wampus i liked your comment after I saw your profile because Ron Weasley is my bae

[@sunnylapis6584]

The only Harry potter joke I had was when I nudged my mom and whispered, mom there's something wrong. She asked what was wrong and I told her that the stairs weren't moving...

[@musicalmaiden1413]

Sunny Lapis OH MY GOSH!!! I’M DYING!!! 😂😂😂

[@darrad5359]

The joke was well you can't remember it all for remeberball and a nod to a Neville Longbottom

[@lifewiththatonepreppy]

LOL😂

[@raiyanchowdhury7898]

Sunny Lapis 0

[@benman92]

What if the beast was cast as Daniel Radcliffe

[@jasminesee4862]

Hahaha I liked that during Gaston's song there was another nod to Harry Potter too, the "10 points to Gaston!" made me laugh a little. I also really like that Lefou's defection from Gaston wasn't an immediate switch, that Lefou was already somewhat troubled by Gaston's actions and behavior. Lefou was trying to nudge Gaston to release Moris but didn't dare to go too far to antagonise him; and also, when the villagers were on the way to the castle, Lefou's words were, "there's a monster alright but I fear we've released the wrong one".

[@MagusAgrippa8]

Ten points to Gaston was in the original, so I wouldn't even call it a nod.

[@finalfantasy7freak664]

Jasmine See Le Feou's line in The Mob Song was genius!! I loved it!!

[@hannekeroos4585]

Jasmine See there is also a moment were they say: "the fat lady sings again" I think that that's also an nod to HP

[@anoushahoo]

Hanneke Roos Acctually that's a saying 'it's not over till the fat lady sings' s I she's saying that she's ending with this fight

[@patriciabradley3625]

it's not it's in the original song so it's not a nod to hp

[@ramayanaroxas5457]

The small flat scene in paris was also the first time Belle called the castle her home.

[@burstguitar3192]

I was confused as to why when Belle came back to her town in the dress, NO BODY QUESTIONED IT!!!! I was like "if she just escaped a beast according to them, then why are they ok with her wearing a beautiful dress and not questioning it?!!!??!"

[@loreninavloggingcup]

I know right I'd probably be like what the hell belle have you been dating an animal??

[@elsieschomp9355]

BurstGuitar 319 Well if they did, that would interrupt the flow of the scene, seeing as it was very intense and fast-paced. The movie wasn't really about the villagers, it was about belle and gaston. Their conversation was much more important.

[@Zaya512]

I agree someone should have questioned why she was in a gown but I also think her returning in the gown made more sense than her taking the time to change given the reason she was leaving in the first place.

[@jadebellphotographyandvide7638]

BurstGuitar 319 i thought that too! No one believes she came from the castle yet they dont question how or where she got the dress?!?!

[@OhMy0695]

After Belle says the Beast is "kind and gentle" Gaston says that Belle must be under the spell from the Beast which could explain her dress.

[@Astrocritical]

IT'S NOT A PEN. IT'S A RATTLE. SHE'S A BABY.

[@mtaylor007]

Elias Vangen this ^^

[@emilylee4627]

Yes, thank you. I paused it and looked down here to see if anyone said it yet. lol

[@midnightrose928]

Elias Vangen THANK YOU I WAS SCREAMING THAT.

[@Papanda1995]

Elias Vangen Thank you! At that moment I was like "It's obviously a rattle you fools!"

[@nyradee]

Dang someone did say it already. Thank you for putting it even though I did comment.

[@alexgroz3079]

98.5% of the comments- " that's not a pen it's a rattle!!!"

[@elsatelligman]

Thank goodness someone else noticed. It jingles for a reason!

[@MylingCyrus]

Alex Groz Hahaha I just typed that then scrolled down to look at other comments 😂

[@actress5256]

lol I made the comment before noticing that a million other people had. Lesson learned- read the comments before you make one

[@meghanmartin3]

Alex Groz I was gonna say that too

[@minnieatkins]

omg i totally thought it was a pen but a rattle makes more sense XD

[@maxawesome3178]

No the worst part of the movie is that they didn't have "How can you read this?" "There's no pictures!"

[@DarkBunsCult]

Omg so true

[@sherriletitia4506]

As a dyslexic person I liked the idea of separating the idea of being smart to being able to read well.

[@solesuna]

Sherri Letitia I agree with you. Reading has nothing to do with intelligence or even knowing languages. Kids talk before they read and as they are french it makes even less sence. Gaston should know what it means as well.

[@saraht9421]

I'm dyslexic, really stupid but well read and I'm happy

[@Toscalily]

I was scanning for a comment like this, if there wasnt i was going to say it!! I'm dyslexic as well so totally get what you're saying. But beyond that i think the guys are forgetting most of the population in these times where illiterate. That didn't mean they where stupid or not verbally, emotionally and culturally intelligent. Education of the spelling and advanced reading caliber was reserved for the rich or at least the urban living individual. In small towns almost no one could spell. And dictionaries didn't exist, some words where up to interpretation. For instance we know Queen Elizabeth the first spelt sister "sistar". Glad someone pointed it out 😀

[@fireheartgalathinyus4952]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't a pen, but a rattle, which makes more sense to me

[@1000ginger]

Fireheart Galathynius I was looking for this comment!

[@PokemonkaDub]

I seriously can't believe that they thought it was a pen...

[@JulieTerng]

Fireheart Galathynius yep it's a rattle

[@nahyunkwon7059]

Fireheart Galathyniu yes it was a rattle

[@serinasen]

I was also looking for this comment

[@ImScottJones]

the beast was welcoming to all people of beauty. thats why he refused to help out the witch.

[@mayu277]

ImScottJones this is what I thought too

[@FantasticBeasts2024]

Exactly! So while Plumette was dark-skinned; she was very pretty.

[@melz6625]

ImScottJones This surprise of inclusion of people of color is only a surprise for Americans though. Racism wasn't a thing in 18th century France. There was only Classism. If you were a Prince from an African or Arabian country you would be treated better than a poor no status French country person irrespective of the person's skin color.

[@crimsonperkyelf3729]

Beauty and the Beast Gugu mbatha raw is the second prettiest actress ever (after emma Watson (:)

[@Reubentheimitator6572]

ImScottJones Yep. I agree.

[@britney951]

Back then, women couldn't choose who to marry though. It was their fathers who had to give them the okay and pretty much showed them a man to marry. Am I not correct on this? So Maurice did have a right in saying that considering he is the one responsible for Belle's choices of marriage, not Belle at this point of time.

[@britney951]

Not only that, but Gaston showed his true colors right when Maurice couldn't find his way back to the castle. He began to insult him and say that he was crazy and stuff like that then he tied Maurice up and said that he'd find his daughter and marry her with or without his permission so yes, Maurice wasn't being a jerk. If I was Maurice, I'd definitely say he couldn't marry Belle

[@jasmineelizabeth3342]

Well they did and they didnt. Parents didnt always arrange marriages if they weren't wealthy because of having few advantageous connections, but they did try to arrange situations wherein their daughter could become acquainted with someone who would allow her to make an advantageous marriage (ex. Mr and mrs bennett in pride and prejudice)

[@daizyzajac575]

Apollo yes but Maurice was a lot more understanding than most of the parents then

[@rachelpie1621]

The rose is a baby rattle, not a pen. That's why Baby Belle is holding it in the painting.

[@lanileblanc5005]

Rachel Yanez I thought the same thing, and was very confused when the mentioned a "pen"

[@analisapradostoscano4929]

I was so mad about that. It was obvious. Thanks to say it

[@amelieobrien7866]

Rachel Yanez oh I thought it was a pen 😂 thanks for clearing that up

[@chloegaskin4156]

I thought it was a rattle too because beauty and the beast is set in the 1700s and the pen wasnt invented until 1888

[@maddie-ql8eb]

My favourite part is when Belle and the Beast are in the Beast's library and Belle asks "Have you read all of them?" Or something like that and then the Beast answers off to the side "No, some of them are in Greek. I love Harry Potter and they were the first things I thought of when I saw the movie. I'd give the movie and 9 and 3/4... I always thought of LaFu and Gaston as Smee and Captain Hook.

[@sisi7304]

Agreed. I liked those lines too!

[@Flotta3]

Jasmine Weasley THAT HAPPENED?! WHEN?! HOW DID I MISS THAT?!

[@EmilyEtchart-Wagar]

Jasmine Weasley it's Lefou not Lafu

[@anorasolo]

Felicity Charrett In the library, after the part when the beast and Belle are arguing about books, and the Beast gives Belle the library.

[@bensonbbarry2945]

Maddie W. wait did he actually mention Harry Potter?!

[@phelanii4444]

I think the bit about diversity you mentioned at the beginning doesn't matter too much, because all of the servants were beautiful (yes even Cogsworth, sir Ian McKellen is a handsome man). He rejected the old woman, not because she was different in a racial or whatever sense, but because she was ugly, and he wanted only beautiful things and people around him.

[@JulieTerng]

Bruh

[@kl-1447]

Also it shows how someone can be diverse and open to one thing, but completely not to another. It is an all to common thing to see, where one thing is okay, just under certain circumstances

[@louiselopez1890]

I was about to comment the same thing, because like the beast is clearly surrounded by yes, diverse people but like they were I assume rich (because they were garbed with extravagant clothing) and very beautiful. Then this woman comes in, wearing clothing that was dark, old and like ugly. So, yeah.

[@lisafalter926]

I loved the fact that the Beast didn't show her the library because he thought she might like it but because he thinks she has a bad taste in books and her choices are boring!

[@Kumori90]

I loved when he rolls his eyes and is like "of course /you'd/ like it" or words to that effect. An interesting side of him.

[@cherrychocolate1434]

I don't know what you guys aree on, but I hated that. It made the Beast so much more unlikable during the scenes where he was trying to actively gain her favor and be nicer to her. Instead of showing the library to her because he thinks she'd really like it, he instead does it because he very rudely wanted to make a point about her taste in books. It's an awful change.

[@KitsyHD]

​@@cherrychocolate1434 I agree, it felt like negging! my whole feeling about the beast was that he was much less likeable. He doesnt tell her about the west wing which makes his reaction really unfair in this version He also doesnt have that instant regret in the animated version He criticises the things she likes, but she only had a limited amount of books to read so... He also doesnt give her the library because he wants to do something for her, he shows her it to make a point which really takes something away There are a few moments where I feel like he's putting her down, and his whole character arc felt less... redemptive, i don't feel like he learned anything, so I dont feel like he earned her love...

[@BrixieAnn]

I just wished they had given The Prince/Beast a name. I know people say it's Adam, but you literally have to look that up to find out. The live action version answered many of the questions from the animated except his name. You'd think they'd at least add that little bit of detail. Overall, I loved the film. Especially the ballroom scene and Evermore.

[@laureprivat339]

Brixie Ann, also, as a French person, I can tell you Adam is not a very French name lol

[@Idk-tea]

Guys it ain’t a pen it’s a ratel🌹👶🏻

[@HeavenlyiceDream]

I am fairly sure i heard them call him prince adam somewhere.

[@whossoul]

His name being Adam is actually not cannon. Officially his name is just Beast.

[@sanitysquota937]

It's odd that Belle never asked this guy( that she's spent so much time with) his name. They can read tons of books together but not ask the most basic of questions?

[@jojobell_]

It's not a pen it's a baby rattle

[@dogsmr4078]

This Awkward Redhead Yes! I thought I was the only one 😪

[@carolynjoyce]

thank you!!!!

[@Ian-bf4yk]

That's what I thought as well.

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

Ha well I have to say.. that was not obvious!

[@laurolas5243]

Thank you, thats what I was screaming at the screen when they were talking about it!!

[@AwesomeActer]

The thing about lefou, is he wouldn't be literate (time and class) but there's the difference between book and street smart

[@mistyfan69]

I was also thinking that traveling preforming troupes might have visited and done scenes from great plays. During this time there were traveling minstrels and troupes. So a traveling troupe could have preformed parts Of or a whole play as well as possibly preforming more than one play during their stay. If so, that could be how Gaston knew the quote, as well as some of the village knowing things without reading them in a book. As someone who also has dyslexia and was put in learning disabled classes, I didn't read Romeo and Juliet let alone most of the "great works" we were subjected to during middle and highschool ( Most for good reason!). I didn't read Romeo and Juliet till I was in my late twenties. I knew the story. I saw the play preformed. (My father was an English major) I also saw different movie versions of that play as well as Hamlet and others. So it is feasible that the community or the people who could afford to, saw plays from traveling troupes and that is how they can know without being able to read. It might also be possible that as children someone who could read, did read to them on occasion. Of the two ideas, the traveling troupe(s) seem more of a possibility. If . . . I Know this is long winded. sorry.

[@AllenDouangchak]

0:55 Wait, the Cinderella live action wasn't received so well? I always thought it was, in terms of critical reviews at least.

[@harmc2301]

Allen Douangchak no, it was considered a flop and many had problems with it

[@musicalmaiden1413]

I liked it!

[@kayisfish]

Love that movie

[@jocelynhern8087]

One of my favourite movies ever!!!

[@phoebebunce7528]

I think it's the best live action princess movie

[@ninakimhartmann393]

The reason why Maurice didn't want to tell Bell how her mother died is that he felt guilty of leaving her. She was ill and he just left her and althought she told him to go and he didn't really have a choice, she was still his wife and normal people feel guilty when they leave someone to die.

[@chibimarie5420]

Nina Kim Hartmann Yes I agree! Had Maurice told her, Belle would have figured out that her father literally left her mother to die and was maybe scared that Belle would grow to hate him. But her coming back with the rose (pen?) was proof that she knew what happened to her mother and she understood her father's choice. At least that's how I interpreted it lol

[@elisabethkersh7343]

Nina Kim Hartmann my thoughts exactly!

[@liivarsson9266]

Nina Kim Hartmann i didn't think it was a pen even. I thought it was a baby bell which would have been the explanation for why it wiggles when mourice shakes it

[@lani8594]

I liked the use of the gun, it shows gaston is not a fair fighter he is a coward as he will only fight from a distance.

[@amandapowell3331]

Lani Stephens truuuuueeeeee

[@RenataKaleah]

Lani Stephens yeah I agree completely. Also earlier in the movie he talks about hunting and how he shoots his prey in back, which is exactly what he does to the Beast. He treats him like any other animal he enjoyed killing

[@doggyzluv]

It also shows that Gaston doesnt play fair. I mean, Adam just spared his life and how does he repay him? By shooting him TWICE in the back. I feel like that's worse than a literal stab in the back like in the original version because it really shows how Gaston is too cowardly to involve himself physically in the death of Adam. We also got a sort of foreshadowing of Gaston's attitude in 'Gaston' when LeFou sings 'Is that fair?' when Gaston was bragging about shooting his prey in the liver from behind to which Gaston retorts with 'I dont care'.

[@rasmusskardenni786]

Well I wouldn't call him a coward tho. Fighting the beast in hand-to-hand combat he stands no chance. Like you couldn't go bear hunting with out weapons (not seen the movie)

[@kro_the_crow]

Yeah

[@CrimsonHeart283]

The rose that they found in Paris is not a pen; it's a baby rattle.

[@Emily-et4of]

I loved the bit where belle teaches the little girl to read.

[@lindseysavoy8049]

I think that the rose in Paris wasn't a pen, but actually Belle's baby rattle. That rattle was in all of Maurice's paintings, which is why Belle asks for, "a rose, like the one in the painting." Maurice was captured by the Beast because he picked that rose for Belle, which is actually what happened in the original Villeneuve Beauty and the Beast story. The scene in Paris explains why the rose was prevalent to Belle.

[@angelaw6656]

Lindsey Savoy also during the time of the plague people would carry flowers to try to mask the smell of death which causes the roses to fit even more with the backstory

[@k1tkat-kate]

Boys, the plague was common in large city centers because of multiple factors: lots of people, "itty bitty living space", poor hygiene, bare minimum waste removal. Diseases were easy to catch because conditions were great for bacteria, and lots of it. Remove yourself from that environment (as many wealthy and powerful people did), and you're less likely to get sick. So Belle and Maurice moving to their small, provincial town, very probably DID save Belle's life from what killed her mother. Also, the 'jingling' thing Belle brings back with her is a rattle shaped like a rose, not a pen.......

[@ashenfire9033]

Exactly, in fact they SAID that's why they had to leave.

[@HannahWoodardLockaby]

+1 for Aladdin reference :)

[@elizabetharbour7062]

Katie Duncan I was scared when belle brought back the rattle that she was going to get the plague because her mom kissed it. but I guess that was a while ago…

[@jenniferleishman8727]

I loved how Emma Watson portrayed Belle, she was super duper great at the role! LeFou was also amazingly portrayed by Josh Gad. The actors were definitely the best part.

[@hayzyhorses6899]

I disagree with the Days In The Sun song being forgettable it's the only one i remember and it's beautiful,and you get to see how sad and hopeful they really are

[@matthewbennett9928]

I loved Evermore and I was really mad that I didn't get the Oscar but they should have used human again instead of days in the Sun cuz human again is a far better song and far more memorable.

[@tattie.b8594]

Hayzy Horses I prefer when we’re human again

[@stephaniegagne3376]

I think Days in the Sun is only forgettable for those who have seen the special edition of the original. In that edition, there was a different song called Human Again. People may view the new song as forgettable because they were sad that Human Again didn’t make it into this version.

[@lauraberg6872]

That "pen" is actually a baby rattle. Just FYI. :)

[@anna_banana7019]

Laura Berg they know that, it was meant to prove a point, the rattle was cheap :p I mean I have a problem with it.. Belles mother kisses the pen, wouldn't that be contaminated then?

[@dragonsreingsupreme1]

No Y.Pestis can not survive long without a host body. It can sometimes grow dormant, but that happening with inorganic materials is not very common. Besides as I am pretty sure belles mother had the pneumonic or bubonic (They are not really clear on the symptoms as she was coughing and there was swelling... no idea where the scratches on the face came from as the bubos generally form on the lymphnode and when popped form large rings of infected tissue) {Mind you neither of which are pretty bubonic has you dying from essentially open sores and cellular death[gangrene not fun]. Pneumonic has the victims lungs liquefying to be vomited up, yes not fun.} Either way even if there was Y.Pestis left it would not infect belle or her father, as it is infectious through coughing they would have gotten it either way...It was a known death sentence for the entire family if even one member got the plague....it was common knowledge that the rest would be dead in a week if they stayed in the same vicinity. So belle and marius must be two of the lucky few that got it and survived to become immune, defeating the purpose of leaving to a small town and leaving the mother/wife either way.

[@phoenixclifford5763]

+Nerdy food Annawolf thats not how the plague is spread.

[@makaylalafleur7176]

that's why it shook it was a rattle!!!!

[@tomdelmonte5049]

Can't believe the boys didn't get it ... it was a RATTLE 😃😂.

[@charlotsart]

It wasn't a pen was it? It was a baby rattle or something.

[@jennymattback3780]

charlotte whiteing yeah I think it was a rattle

[@rylan8704]

charlotte whiteing it was a rattle

[@monique1159]

Yeah, I definitely thought it was a rattle and not a pen. Also I liked that roses were part of her past because it almost makes it seem like she was destined to fall in love with the Beast/ Prince Adam.

[@kittycat5292]

ya, thats what I thought. that is why it was jingling.

[@madavie2010]

yeah, I was pretty sure it was a rattle too. it reminded me of the one from Nanny McFee

[@brooketeslo9152]

The little library they were talking about is actually a church that's why it has so little books

[@yelyzavetazagrebelna5741]

It is the only library in town I suppose. As the literacy existed mainly in churches at the time, huh?

[@lokidokie3174]

Brooke Teslo and they liked the little connections, or "Easter Eggs", that reminded them of other movies; that "library" reminded me of Tangled. Belle was trapped in her small village having to read the same books over and over, and Rapunzel was trapped in her tower having to read the same old books.

[@nathans9764]

Talking about little jokes... At one point Gaston says "she has something, I can't put my finger on it...". And LaFou responds "je ne sais quoi?". To which Gaston says "I don't know what that means.". It's literally French for "I don't know what" and is used to describe an undefinable allure about someone you're attracted to. Such a fantastic joke.

[@zessicajak1173]

One of my favorite parts is the scene leading up to the library reveal because when Belle says she likes Romeo and Juliet, the beasts reaction is so great. And then when they are talking about Arthur and the round table Belle brings up that it's a romance and the beast is like "No it's manly." I loved it.

[@EyreAffair]

This is especially true, as many scholars view "Romeo and Juliet" not as a serious tragedy, but Shakespeare writing a satire / "black comedy" to make fun of the trope of "love at first sight", which was incredibly prevalent in his era. "The Tempest" and "A Midsummer Night's Dream" also feature this trope, but in a very overtly comedy-centered format. This may point to the Beast - of all people - being more educated than Belle! Especially since he seems to call the work "cliche", which Shakespeare also likely poked fun at, and the Beast, having a classical and "expensive" education including literature studies, pokes fun at it as well. There are quite a few literature in-jokes, and that's one of them. www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/37doub/is_it_true_that_shakespeares_romeo_juliet_is/

[@torynsumner5206]

The back story was pretty cool because it explained why the beast just all of a sudden kid napped Maurice. In the original it was just you are trespassing and now I am taking you prisoner. In the live action remake it was because the beast had a special connection with roses (because of the rose he was cursed with) and the fact that Maurice came and took something that he had a deep connection with really angered him on a personal level.

[@ceciliagullett2096]

love2luv disney that's because in the original story of beauty and the beast Maurice takes a rose from the beast's castle for belle and the beast sees him

[@abbieanderson9581]

yeah it wasn't their idea. in the original story, her dad asks her and her sisters what they want when he goes to town and stuff and her sisters are like riches and stuff and belle only asks for a rose.

[@zuzanakovalova5867]

The story is set in the middle of 17th century (late baroque/rococo), therefore there are so many decorations and details on buildings. It is also too early for the French revolution (1789) , if it was after the prince (aristocracy) would have lost his property, even could have been beheaded. So Gaston and LeFou are probably veterans of Seven Years' War.

[@DoraRoseD]

Can we talk about Lefou's part in "Kill The Beast" when he says "There's a beast running wild, there's no question, but I fear the wrong monster's released"

[@hannaberga7063]

I love how they did a nod to the book it was based off of by having the father get improsoned because of a rose that Belle asked for. I think that's probably also why the rattle is a rose. also up until the plague reveal I thought that it was going to turn out that Belle's mother was accused of witchcraft and burned because she was educated.

[@laureprivat339]

Hanna Berga this would have been much better!

[@rtbndzc]

Laure Privat I agree but they probably wouldn’t put that into a PG film unless they implied it instead, I think both her getting the plague and her being burnt at the stake make sense and would both be good explanations of her mums death

[@elladuncliffe1963]

Historically speaking; I don’t think they burned people at the stake for being witches commonly. Like it happened a total of three accounted times in Salem and nowhere else

[@elladuncliffe1963]

To my knowledge that is

[@MsStormcrow]

Ella Duncliffe Nowhere else?. There were thousands of people murdered for witchcraft during the inquisition. The Salem trials were tiny compared to the ones in Europe. Also, no one was burned in Salem, & there were 20 victims, not 3. The victims were either hung, or "pressed" which is described as, a person is put on the ground, a board put over them & then rocks are piled on it until the victim is crushed to death. There are MANY places that had witch trials. Look up the Bamburg trials. The inquisition from the 15th to 18th century is estimated to have burned 30,000 to 50,000 people. Later some were also burnt for being protestant, not just witches. Mary Tudor queen of england burned hundreds of innocent people.

[@silvia9304]

I feel like a woman's opinion was needed in this conversation, especially in the Gaston part. Gaston doesn't become the bad guy when he ties up Maurice to that tree. He is the bad guy from the very first minutes of the movie, when he says to Belle that women shouldn't read because it makes them think for themselves. From that scene, he is a lost cause. This is just my opinion though!

[@amandapowell3331]

Silvia Criado I totally agree

[@kl-1447]

Silvia Criado Even for those who argue that that would be "typical for the time period" (which actually not brought up a lot, thankfully). He is shown directly as a jerk, and ignorant and uncaring. He is a lost cause

[@Always_wandering]

I thought the same thing. There were several other comments he made that put me off and told me he was not a good guy/person right from the start. It seemed like he really relished fighting in the war and that would not have been attractive to Belle or Maurice, which I'm sure they talked about.

[@silvia9304]

Ilona Absolutely, there were plenty of comments and actions that made him a horrible person! It was so obvious to me, I don't understand how some people took it as if he was "trying to show Belle that he was just as good as she was". Nonsense.

[@veronicagrace7695]

Silvia Criado, exactly! As much as I enjoy the Carlin Brothers reviews, I thought they missed a lot of the nuances of the storytelling in this one, especially with Gaston.

[@merilochhead4223]

Having the mother die from the plague was another connection for the Beast and Belle

[@loreninavloggingcup]

Exactly! When she said she wanted to go back to the castle, he gave this sad smile like he had a bigger understanding of her grief.

[@leoyori9829]

Theory: Hermione Granger and _2017 Belle_ not _original Belle_ are related. This Belle is almost definitely a witch, and we know Hermione is a muggle born witch. What if this Belle is the witch that Hermione has the magical gene from. They’re both played by Emma Watson, both are seen as weird for different reasons, both love to read and do research before doing things, and both like breaking the rules. They’re both thought of as tomboys longing for adventure, but end up *NAILING* the look of a beautiful girl. But yeah I mean Belle seems like she could be a witch, and Hermione is a muggle born, so what if Belle gave birth to a squib, they had a muggle child, who has a muggle child etc. etc. until Mr. and Mrs. Granger give birth to Hermione. I’m not sure if it makes sense because I couldn’t get enough research needed, but it makes sense to me

[@katarinabrunk8698]

I love this theory you made, I'm calling it head canon, what if JK rowling and Disney did that on purpose 🤔😁👍.

[@alexphillips1935]

Omg is this genuine

[@EyreAffair]

Boys, I had to do a bit of digging, but the Enchantress was likely included for a reason...her name is not a coincidence! She, 'Agathe', is likely Bill Condon's take on the nanny / guardian of the "Lost Dauphin" of France, Louis XVII. Her name in real life was Agathe Mottel de Rambaud, and from the Crown Prince's birth onwards, for seven years, she raised him as his surrogate mother. She even loved him as her own son (her own husband and daughter died long before she did), so much so that she tasked herself with his expected return, and "learning responsibility to one day rule the French people". She was also historically noted for seeming "unusually young for her age, even as an old woman of 70". In the "Beauty and the Beast" film, it may be implied that it was Agathe (the Enchantress) who raised the Prince after his mother's death, which would also be in-line with the original version of the fairy tale. However, this back story may have been cut for time purposes, or to prevent the film from being "overstuffed".

[@alexandraocchiuto4959]

yeah! but in that story didn't she curse him because on one of his birthdays (I forgot how old he was) she thought he was really handsome or something and asked for his hand in marriage and him being really freaked out obviously said no and she got very angry so she cursed him so that he could never find love?

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

Lovey Dovey It's actually a holdover from the original fairytale (as is the magic book).

[@Neku628]

Amber Goldsmith Did the enchantress come to the door as the old woman asking for shelter? Did Beast slam the door in her face because he was an entitled brat with anger issues?

[@EyreAffair]

In one version, yes. In reference to what historically happened in real life, that particular version doesn't really fit the tale. In real life, Agathe de Rambaud was basically the "Grandmama" character in "Anastasia", only as a mother-figure to Prince Louis XVII. However, there are many different versions of the "Beauty and the Beast" story, with historians dating back the tale to ancient Rome. The live-action "Beauty and the Beast" seems to be a version separate in itself, merging some real-life history and historical events with magic, to form what appears to be an "alternate historical timeline". For example, Louis XIV, "the Sun King", is depicted as Beast's father in the portrait with Beast (as a child) and his parents in the film. However, on the other hand, the Beast himself seems to be based on Louis XIV's great-grandson, Louis XVII. Disney / Bill Condon likely took and merged these story lines, it seems, for the films, with the historical turning point being Louis XIV getting his second wife (implied to be Beast's mother) pregnant with their son (Beast / Prince Adam). Likewise, Agathe seems to be part of the "Lost Dauphin" story or fairy-tale (which, in turn, later inspired the story of "Anastasia", with the trope of "lost royalty") that was merged with the "Louis XIV as Beast's father" one. I wrote about the historical basis more in-depth in my post here: www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/606acb/beauty_and_the_beast_the_untold_story_of_beasts/

[@EyreAffair]

If you're talking about Agathe (the Enchantress), that's probably because she was purposefully hiding or disguising herself to keep a close eye on the Prince / the Beast.

[@abigailaveytia3356]

The reason why Gastón didn't use his crossbow was because Belle had snuck up behind him and took his arrows. When Gastón turns around, Belle breaks the arrows on her knee. Therefore, Gastón resorts to using his gun, which he and Belle also struggled over.

[@theauthorofdisney6754]

Abigail Aveytia ohhh Bc when I saw it I was like why she break that stick so I was so confused

[@safiradragon9930]

The Author Of Disney! I for some reason thought she broke his second gun that in my brain he had :P

[@TheMirandagail]

I liked her singing, because it wasn't perfect and strong. She seemed like a normal girl walking through town singing.

[@TheMirandagail]

I also wonder if Maurice didn't say that Gaston wouldn't marry her because of previous experiences with him or complaints that Belle has shared with her father.

[@kro_the_crow]

Yeah probably

[@fairygirl626]

It didn't sound natural, though. I would have been fine with just Emma Watson singing, even if it was off key, as I agree, just having a normal girl walk through the village singing is a lovely thought. But they tried to make her sound good and failed.

[@AlphabetCookie]

She's not a normal girl though. The autotune took it so out of the time period. There was no "meaning" to her voice either.

[@maxpark1339]

if there was just a little more autotune i would've thought she was TPain

[@janedoe6866]

Emma Watson was born in Paris, France.

[@Dancesong91]

Actually being in a small town is a great way to not die of the plague. Because of the way plague spreads big cities were way more dangerous.

[@issaphae9659]

yeah because if you're crammed into a certain area with a large amount of people disease can spread much faster

[@joshuadesautels]

"Small means safe."

[@phoenixclifford5763]

Small towns=less rats(Or at least cleaner rats because less waste for them to be crawling around in)

[@gema3736]

Fun fact: The Enchantress' book was part of the original story of Beauty and the Beast written by Madame du Beaumont, that's why it was included (apart from telling us Belle's mother story). The name of the village Villeneuve was also another reference to the original story because the original author's surname of the story from which Beaumont took the idea of writing Beauty and Beast was Villeneuve. Crazy

[@ryedeeley6377]

Gema Pérez Ortiz In the original, Belle also had sisters

[@devilovesdevil]

Eliza Hamilton I wonder why they never add them

[@brittanywalker4792]

Cpn. Beartato They used the Bimbettes (yeah... I'm pretty sure that's what they're actually called....) to take on their role.

[@vatsalamolly]

Oh that is interesting... I like that it was included then.

[@murdokdracul]

I'm so glad you explained this so I didn't have to. I loved the addition of the magic book; maybe it's because I understood where it came from.

[@rachaelolberding3905]

What if Gaston didn't die and feel into a river/creek and went to an ocean. He gets his hand bit off and becomes Captain Hook?

[@anni_dee]

Rachael Olberding ..but Gaston is French and Captain Hook is British.. And the line "somewhere in the hidden heart of France" required the movie to take place somewhere in the middle of France, I don't think Gaston is gonna get all the way to England from somewhere in central France, just through a river..

[@carolynjoyce]

o-o wat

[@charaviolet8172]

oh my gosh

[@charaviolet8172]

oh my gosh

[@charaviolet8172]

oh my gosh

[@bsperoz]

18:40 I just found out a few weeks ago he's been in A LOT of stuff. He was Rodney Copperbottom (the protagonist) in ROBOTS (Yes, the animated one with Robin Williams) nd fun fun fact: HE IS CONFIRMED TO BE PLAYING AN OLDER CHRISTOPHER ROBIN IN AN UPCOMING WINNIE THE POOH FILM!!!

[@serentique]

WINNIE THE POOH FILM???

[@aheinz308]

Yeah!

[@Vicky-th8pq]

yeah I heard! It's actually called Disney's Christopher Robin

[@dwanecarpenter6946]

Haha I can’t wait for the movie to come out in 3 days

[@EmoBearRights]

I'm actually a long term fan of the lovely Mr McGregor going back to the Beebs production of Scarlet and Black where he had an affair with the Borg queen from First Contact.

[@madelinemiller9558]

Did anyone else notice Hedwig when Maurice was rescued by Agatha?

[@madelinemiller9558]

It could have been a random white owl, but I thought of Hedwig as soon as I saw it.

[@rateme5650]

+Madeline Miller same

[@morganlaumeyer8849]

I thought of Jedediah as soon as I saw the owl, but it looked nothing like he'd wig to me. I think that owl Agatha had was a barn owl, not a snowy owl like hedwig

[@BergenMcKenzie]

Madeline Miller when I saw that I thought of hedwig and I actually elbowed my friend who had literally bought the new books right before we went into the theatre but as much as I think it WAS a nod to the Harry Potter movies it wasn't a snowy owl so it wasn't supposed to be hedwig himself

[@taylorlimon4801]

Madeline Miller me and my best friend went to see it and we are such Harry Potter trash. And like when the "Neville" scene happened we like jumped out of our seats as well as when "hedwig" was there

[@annagillette7566]

Yes the prince welcomed diversity in race, but he didn't welcome diversity in class or age, or accept anyone who wasn't very beautiful.

[@annelilian]

Thank you!

[@amandapowell3331]

Anna Gillette that part of the review annoyed me so much. like how is making women compete for you exceptable? just because some of them aren't white does not make him a better person.

[@nude_cat_ellie7417]

Anna Gillette except Cogsworth, lol

[@lauraberg6872]

There's a difference I guess between staff that work for him, and the women he wants around him to flirt with and court.

[@leavittboyz]

"Gaston didn't really do anything bad yet to Maurice." Um, he literally said he'd feed him to the wolves if Maurice mentioned "beast" again. Why else would LaFou try to calm Gaston down by ironically reminding him of war?

[@leavittboyz]

Also, I felt the side plot with Belle's mother added a bit more chemistry with Belle and the Beast. They actually had something in common, being they both lost parents at a young age. Plus Belle and Maurice did have some conversations about her loss which I think was a good addition. Could it happen without the atlas? Sure, but I was fine with the whole thing.

[@andrewwilliams8638]

+Leavittman same but the magic atlas was in the original fairytale

[@dianaoflesbos6197]

Every time I watch this and get to the part where they complain about the “pen” I just want to yell: IT’S NOT A PEN! all their complaints don’t work if they know it’s a rattle. Why do they think it’s a pen?

[@karentiller5821]

I love that they are wondering why a pen was rattling 🤦🏻‍♀️Come on now!!! I sat here shaking my head.

[@LittleMissSLC]

So glad it's not just me. I was shouting at the screen to correct them!

[@karentiller5821]

@@LittleMissSLC Haha! I face palmed myself over it.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

I agree. I hope it is ok to write the actual name for it. It is a baby rattle not a pen.

[@kelbichristina]

came here to comment that, i thought that it was so obvious it was a rattle

[@nataliefife7365]

I am surprised no body has mentioned this but I thought it was interesting how they made Maurice the music box maker and they made bell the more inventive one like when she "made the washing machine" and always knew what tools to give her dad.

[@evapollard9657]

Natalie Fife Maurice was an artist and Belle was an inventor

[@finalfantasy7freak664]

Natalie Fife YES YES YESSSS I LOVED THOSE SCENES

[@selinmoustafa4728]

I liked that the beast couldn't use a spoon. It might have been because his hands were to big to hold it however it gave the impression that belle was understanding as well as willing to compromise. In a relationship, it should be equal and the couple should work together not just one person always changing as shown by this scene.

[@kl-1447]

Selin Moustafa I like this explanation. I always rather liked that scene, but I never really picked up the significance

[@steffij9775]

Selin Moustafa i quite agree. it shows how they meet each other halfway.. the beast tries to adjust to make belle comfortable.. and belle also does the same

[@elisabethkersh7343]

Selin Moustafa maybe his instincts were more of a beasts while his mind still kept his youth's education intact. That's why he probably had some beast like behaviors yet kept some princely ones as well

[@madelinet.8811]

Selin Moustafa I just made a comment about this 😂 I didn't even see urs before I did, sorry

[@xAbbieCx13]

That's exactly what I thought!

[@noellekennedy8321]

i think one question that people have had over the years is whether or not they age as time goes on. the curse also made it snow only "in" the castle territory. i think that that is symbolism that time is frozen. especially saying that chip was portrayed as 5 before the and after.

[@embaljac365]

Noelle Kennedy I agree

[@laytonpro8655]

Noelle Kennedy what I was wondering was how much time had passed because their was still family members residents in the village and not distant family either. It was people like chip's dad and cogsworth's wife so how long had it been? Not only that but how fast do the petals fall? They can't find true love that fast

[@noellekennedy8321]

Layton pro 🎩⚡ if we go off of the animated version 10 years have passed. the average full rose has anywhere between 26 to 40 petals. the beast was extra so we will go with 40. in the animated movie, we start in late fall and go all the way to when the snow melts lets say late October to March (5ish months) in the live action 3 or 4 petals fell, averaging about 1 petal per month/month and a half. one petal per month means that the rose has been actively wilting for 40 months or 3 years. but, if you look at this as if it was a hour glass with sand. the closer you get to the end, the faster the sand falls. therefore, the rose could have been wilting since day one, but 1 petal fell every few months. i cant give you a solid answer saying which way, but in the animated Lumieer does say to cogsworth "the rose has already begun to wilt" specualting that the wilting has recently begun.

[@joshuadesautels]

I've figured it must be 10 years for the outside world, and time either stopped or moved more slowly for the castle. This movie seems to clearly confirm that the castle characters did not age while they were transformed (the prince is clearly already a young man when he is cursed, for example).

[@hannahmontana5206]

Noelle K

[@kat9321]

The time period was heavily based on the Rococo style, a movement during the late 18th century, so it makes sense that everything (costume, architecture..etc) was extremely over the top and "frou frou" just because thats exactly what the Rococo movement was all about.

[@gabbyannetteloeser889]

It's not a pen, it's a baby rattle, They gave background to both Belle and the Beast's moms being dead to give them one more thing to bond over. Also saying 'I love you' ins't the only way to prove that you love someone. That being said, I loved the film and I thoroughly enjoyed hearing you two talk about the film on such a detailed level. Great video!

[@hinakiba777]

Gabby Annette Loeser Thank you! I was so lost why the brothers though what was obviously a baby's rattle was a pen. I think it was in the bassinet with infant Belle, even.

[@blacklight7824]

I just want to say (as an experienced music producer) I listened through clips of Belle singing with both studio monitors and headphones after watching in a movie theater and I couldn't detect autotune in her voice. People need to understand that not all effects put on someone's singing is autotune. Compression and equalizing for sure, but not autotune.

[@loreninavloggingcup]

They are just generalising it, like people call every bit of image mutation 'photoshop'

[@graveyardlau]

I'm pretty sure it's just how her voice sounds. I'm not critisizing or anything, I love her voice but to some people it may sound different than other singers so that's maybe why they thought it was autotune

[@Mickdabrat0207]

Blacklight EDM can u be my producer I sing

[@graveyardlau]

I completly agree

[@emmaothorell]

I am a music university student, so maybe not as experienced as a producer, but I work with this sort of stuff too, and the effects on her voice did sound slightly electronic, I mean, you could tell that something had been put on top of her vocals. And for people not familiar with filters, limiters, EQ and so on, would probably just call it auto tune. But I agree with them that keeping it more natural would have worked better with the historical aspect of the film, than trying to make it perfect and almost over-doing it a bit.

[@SallyAStockman]

The visit to Paris would explain Belle walking by Notre Dame in The Hunchback of Notre Dame...

[@hannahyoung2137]

MissSAS123 mind blown

[@AVAL2775]

sorry but no, i hate that they did that, they didnt need too it was a pointless scene

[@SallyAStockman]

Hey! No worries! To each their own! I agree it wasn't needed, but I enjoyed it. But I also understand it's not to everyone's tastes. :D

[@snazzysitara]

MissSAS123 Crap you're right

[@midnightrose928]

MissSAS123 EASTER EGG EXPLAINED

[@gemstonerose4648]

Are we all gonna ignore the fact that Lumière dabs in the middle of "be our guest"?!?!

[@jessiethenerd3539]

Gem Stone Rose Yes Because I don't want to think about how Disney has betrayed me.

[@jadebellphotographyandvide7638]

Gem Stone Rose he did?!

[@gemstonerose4648]

yeah when he's covered with the napkin

[@dabalojustalemonwithlemonn7795]

Gem Stone Rose can I have a link?

[@fresheggsfingerboards5910]

i was the only person i now to realize that 😂🍍👌🏻🥓🍱🦐

[@hannahhester8376]

I absolutely loved this movie. I almost started crying when Belle found out what happened to her mother, and the ballroom scene, but I seriously cried during Evermore, as Beast was watching her leave. Gaston and Lefou were awesome, Lefou saving Mrs. Potts and helping them, and earlier when he discovered Gaston was evil, the transformation, the opening scene, and do not get me started on the songs! Emma was amazing, Be Our Guest took my breath away, and Beauty and the Beast was so nostalgic. I sang along to every one.

[@samanthamoore7087]

I hope you saw this at an early show with a bunch of kids. I would be pissed if i were watching it and some jackass in the audience decided they needed to add their voice to the movie, ruining those breathtaking, nostalgic moments for others.

[@hannahhester8376]

No, actually, I have a theater in my town that barely anyone goes to, so there was only me, my grandmother, my great aunt, my great grandmother, and one other group of people. And I saw it on my birthday, so it was even more awesome. I'm totally going to see it again in 3D by myself.

[@yaacovyoung]

half my row were singing along softly and it was great :)

[@ryemerson]

Diamond Rose same

[@cartmanfrost1140]

Evermore was my favorite song in the movie! i love how the opening of the song was the beginning of the opening of the 1991 Beauty and the Beast.

[@jcb444]

I think you guys are kind of over thinking the beginning with the prince turning away someone for being different. Those diverse people weren't "ugly"... I mean honestly they weren't. the prince valued beautiful things and so when the "ugly" person cam seeking refuge he was repulsed but her looks. So he made him as ugly on the outside as he is on the inside. Hence the title Beauty and the Beast. Belle is beautiful, but she's not cocky or judgemental and I think that's what the Beast learns from her. That there is more to a person than just their looks.

[@jcb444]

color of skin has nothing to do with it.

[@adrianacavero9991]

j bibee thank you. he was punished for being judgmental to a traditionally ugly person. everyone at the ball was beautiful.

[@JW-tf5fh]

j bibee it wasn't them disliking the diverse cast, it was them pointing out that at that time period (and even today) a character such as Prince Adam wouldn't let multiple races into his ball. they weren't disapproving of a diverse cast, they were just disagreeing that he would have such diversity in his castle.

[@clairediehr79]

I completely agree that was what I was thinking when they were talking about it in the video.

[@shayleeoloughlin5135]

After I watched this, I watched The Hobbit. The entire time I was imagining Bard singing "Kill the Beast!" with the Black Arrow.

[@kayisfish]

Lolol

[@momoleeann]

I think the Paris scene is meant to help them bond over the loss of their mothers. Beast was able to comfort her because he knew what it was like to lose a mother.

[@AnzuMiruku]

Yeah, that's exactly what I took from the scene and I'm glad they added that into the movie. I really felt Beast and Belle had an even deeper connection in this film than the original.

[@mariahallynwhite9427]

Morgan Thompson Me to I actually thought it was one of my favorite scenes

[@tobleronesubscriptions]

Easter Egg : The actor that played the beast was reading a book about the knights around the round table that included Lancelot. That same actor was in the 'Night at the Museum' movie playing Lancelot. (:

[@emelias8720]

In the broadway musical they read the same book though, so likely it's a nod to that.

[@valj137]

I loved how the movie made me get feels of other movies. Like the mob song scene, for example, really gave me Les Miserables feels. And in the Beast's ballad, Evermore, he sings, "Come what may," which gave me all the feels of Moulin Rouge ("The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return" GAHHH MY HEART). Of course the various reminders of Harry Potter was also prevalent and warmly welcomed. I loved everything about the movie. It's so so beautiful. And the addition of making the Beast have "an expensive education" and him loving literature and words as much as Belle was wonderful. My favourite scene would have to be when they were on a walk in the snow and Belle was reading to him and they walked over a bridge and the Beast comes to a gradual stop because he's suddenly so awed and captivated by the beauty of the frozen lake that was enhanced by Belle's words and he asks her softly, "Is there more?" That scene is so beautiful and made me breathless and I think I fell for both the Beast and Belle right then and there. Sighhhhhhhhh

[@valj137]

P.S! Does anyone know what Belle was reading to him in that bridge scene? I NEED to know.

[@starbittenpixieboy]

Val J she was reading Romeo and Juliet

[@darciehorton9748]

Val J for evermore reminded me so much of phantom of the Opera!

[@fotofeary6]

Yes! I caught the Neville/Hermione exchange belle and the townsperson in the beginning! It was almost exact the same as the remembrall (sp?) scene in the first HP! And then the owl, but I actually thought labyrinth first haha.

[@DocStewie77]

Mr. Potts?? Mrs. Potts? NEVILLE??! *faints*

[@icaruslilith8830]

I think the reason josh gad does the unable to spell gaston thing is because he actually can but he doesn't want to look smart in front of people who judge you for being able to read so when he realizes he's showing himself to be smart he stops and says he's illiterate

[@LadyDragonbane]

Icarus lilith That's an interesting take on it!

[@-aeshe-4951]

Icarus lilith follow follow follow follow follow. Especially cuz his eyes go shifty. And I think Le Fou in the animated version was just better hidden and this Le Fou was openly(to the screen) smart. And going by the way he knows society and strategically meets the conditions to flow through it till he realizes that life could be better because of the castles atmosphere and that there is no use in flowing through it or trying to stay on top by any means, such as when no one listens to him anyway and Gaston would let him die, he just bes himself and doesn't have to rub the smart firewood together as much

[@ethanschortinghuis3622]

Icarus lilith I totally agree. I actually thought the exact same thing while watching this video. Especially since he gets half way through spelling it and then gets all nervous because he realizes that reading is part of the reason Belle is such an outcast.

[@mirrorofgaladriel]

that's actually a great way to look at it. I mean i know he's smart. Just because someone is smart it doesn't mean they can read or at least aren't very good at it. Looking at it like that he realized that people would judge him for being able to read so he acted dumb. makes sense!

[@1cassemanda]

She actually wasn't heavily auto-tuned. She sang that whole song live on set and it made it into the movie. Sure its touched up, but its actually not as intense as people seem to think it is. That's just what her voice sounds like.

[@rickygee1233]

She sang the song live but did a prerecord in the studio and played it over her own voice so back ground noises wouldn't get into the way of her singing. When Emma sing 'Paris of my childhood' That was live and not a prerecord. And that's one of the times she doesn't sound electronic. She was slightly auto-tuned and I wouldn't blame her for getting mad at the directors etc for doing that to her voice because she actually is not half bad at singing considering she's an actor.

[@musicalmaiden1413]

Exactly!

[@matthewbennett9928]

Thank you I'm finally glad somebody's pointing this out she is not auto-tuned it probably was polished a little but not much I've heard her raw recording sessions on KZbin I know that's her voice that we here in the movie and it's not half bad but people also have to remember she's an actress not a singer and she's also not vocally trained like Paige O'Hara so on all those notes kudos to Emma Watson she's not an excellent singer she certainly gets the job done.

[@adrianmegee9395]

I really liked her singing to be honest.

[@raiyanchowdhury7898]

tonight_bts 5E475F0D 339E172D 7881A409 E2026E0C 8E883EFF 92E9660D

[@aleksandragieralt4406]

regarding the french revolution - although Gaston wears a revolutionary hat I don't think it's the french revolution yet - the beast is still in power as a prince - he would have been in hiding or dead if it had been the french revolution, even as a beast he would have known and probably given up on finding a girl, took the book and escaped with his cutlery to a deserted island or something. . . furthermore there's a priest in the village, and the revolution killed priests. the revolution is coming, as the guillotine and storming of the castle foreshadow, Belle and beast probably won't be living happily ever after, but it hasn't occured yet

[@amandapowell3331]

Aleksandra Gieralt the beast wouldn't have gone into hiding since they were all erased from memory

[@edinakocsis4249]

Aleksandra Gieralt i suppose Gaston could fight in the seven years war which ended in 1763. i think the french revolution would be too grand to not mention it if the story is after that...

[@peridotasadeadbritishmonar7924]

Its also possible that the movie takes place after the war has ended.

[@andretheinernaut3749]

Aleksandra Gieralt **screams about Marquis de Lafayette who fought in the American revolution for free because he loved America that much, and was also laughed off of the dance floor by Marie Antoinnette, and came to America disgusted as a pregnant woman**

[@phoenixclifford5763]

everyone forgot about him though. that was part of the spell. He wouldn't need to go into hiding.

[@india4241]

Another movie reference was when the beast and belle were reading Lancelot, which was a reference to when Dan played Lancelot in Night At The Museum

[@nya2002a]

They didn't talk about the Beast/Prince Adam's growl at the end. That thing made me like whew. It gave me chills.

[@djcarson9030]

Arianna RULES SAME!!!!! Me and my best friend looked at each other and died. It kinda reminded me of the Joker in suicide squad. I lost it

[@chairsrawesome6376]

I loved that part

[@formykids1976]

Arianna RULES , I thought the growl was a bit unrealistic....he is a human now.... he is still able to make the beast sounds?

[@sydneywheeler7166]

lowkey hot

[@oliviafrancis1926]

Arianna RULES I literally hit the back of my theater chair so hard

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

What was your favorite part of the new Beauty and the Beast movie??

[@mnrsteeljoutafel]

SuperCarlinBrothers idk I have not seen it

[@abigailjudith5916]

SuperCarlinBrothers The end during the gay seen, or the whole thing I loved it so much more than the original

[@fantasticmadness8935]

SuperCarlinBrothers my favourite part was the ending

[@FindingMomo2317]

I know I've been asking this a few times but will you guys rank all 56 of your favorite Walt Disney Animation Studios films from Snow White and the seven Dwarfs all the way to Moana.

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

wow that would be a long video! But I am not against it!

[@actress5256]

I thought the decision to give Gaston a gun was great, it made him so much more of a coward. He couldn't get up close and personal there was nothing honorable about it he sniped from far away. So even though it felt like less personal passion I think it made gaston a coward which is part of what they're showing

[@IreneShardaForever]

Well, technically by chivalry and honor standards, it's also quite cowardly to stab someone in the back as well. Especially while they are in the midst of addressing their loved one and they have just spared your life. So, Gaston was being super cowardly and dishonorable in both versions.

[@tomunsworth2401]

Ann Elizabeth also, I feel like this beast is more muscular then the cartoon one (whose size seems to be all over he place) and that this gaston is a lot less muscular and big (which is fine because the cartoon one was over the top for a real person) that it makes more sense for him not to try hand to hand combat because he would just get thrown around like a rag doll

[@IreneShardaForever]

You think the beast was LESS muscular in the cartoon version?! The Beast is huge in that version and his muscles are almost 5x bigger. Yes, he does change perspective size wise throughout the movie, but during the fight at the end, he's much bigger than Gaston (cartoon version) and bigger than his live action version by far.

[@Nazaba09]

i think giving gaston a gun to kill the beast was stupid. the knife was much more impactful.

[@silverstream233]

I agree.. a gun was way too rushed

[@mycenadark1794]

"The fat lady SINGS!!"

[@aleena9212]

Can you guys make a theory video about why Harry Potter and Moaning Myrtle look so similar?

[@nerdyartist2260]

Aleena Seyal oOoOH that would be a cool one!

[@hals3102]

Aleena Seyal omg I never realized that before maybe they are related somehow maybe on James side what if she is James aunt or something because she died fifty years before Harry find putt about her that would kind of make sense

[@jimmynutpie839]

Aleena Seyal Maybe Myrtle is Daniel Radcliffe in drag.

[@hals3102]

Miss Hoepfl oh that's good

[@anni_dee]

Miss Hoepfl I don't think so, moaning Myrtle must have way older then James and Lilly considering she died 50years ago and looks like she is no older then 16, so she would be in her 60s at the time Harry is in school, his parents would be in there 30s/40s.. there is a higher chance she is his grandma, then his sister or aunt..

[@kristisons137]

I don't think the war Gaston fought in was the french revolution. Aside from the fact that, that war meant the end of monarchy rule in France the timeline doesn't add up. The film makers said that based on the set design and costumes in the film the story would have taken place somewhere around 1750-1770 (note the original book was written in 1740). The French Revolution took place in 1789-1799. If I had to speculate based on the that time line Gaston most likely fought in the Seven Years War which ended in 1763.

[@davidray3133]

Kristi Sons That actually makes a lot of sense.

[@geecooper3377]

I was just about to comment this haha, I was going to say the Seven Years War (1756-1763) or the War of Austrian Succession (1740-1748), after the French Revolution there'd be no Princes in any castles, beast or otherwise haha :)

[@lulucanpy3513]

Kristi Sons France had a lot of wars back in the day haha. I thought it was a little presumptuous to assume it was the most "well-known" war to Americans

[@lexieleishman2907]

I didn't know that the writers had given a approximate timeperiod, I simply went off the existence of the plague doctor's mask as a reference and came to the conclusion of a possible 131y timeframe though the lack of worry about the plague implies that it's now gone/becoming rarer and matches up with the timeframe you mentioned (though presuming Belle is 18 here as she is in the animation the latest possible year would be 1768 rather than 1770)

[@CinnamonToast]

one thing that bothered me about the timeframe/historical accuracy is the mention of the plague. You're right, the set design and costumes are totally mid 1700s, but the plague swept through Europe in the 1300s. It's such a massive gap - 500 years - that I sorta had trouble ignoring it. Even if the movie takes place near the end of the plague when it was becoming rarer, we're still much to far off for it to be remotely plausible that Belle's mother died of the plague and Belle was 17 in the 1750s.

[@billieflaming7626]

A couple thoughts on Gaston: 1. I really liked how Luke Evans portrayed him. The animated movie gave him so much over the top rude characteristics (and that giant chin), but we get to see him as a loved (and very beautiful) member of the community. 2. As Gaston was going up the stairs talking about him and Belle, he grabbed her skirt, which I found to be very creepy/scary/intimidating. 3. Gaston gets worse as the movie progresses, which sort of ties in why Belle was so against him at the beginning of the movie when he was small minded, but not bad. Since she can "see with her heart" and all that, it's a cool sort of pay off once the Mob Song came on.

[@christaberry2694]

I agree! Luke Evans' portrayal of Gaston was very true to his character.

[@facelesscat1138]

"I just watched the actor do a thing." Best line in the video

[@alyssalynn1814]

Personally I believe gaston wasn't defending Maurice selflessly he was doing to gain something and I think Maurice says that belle won't marry him because he knows belle and he knows gaston and he knows that belle won't marry him which is true. I think every thing gaston does is for personal gain he doesn't truly care about belle

[@JW-tf5fh]

Melissa Bonner yes but their point is that if this was your first iteration of the story and you hadn't seen the cartoon, neither you nor Maurice would know that he was doing it for personal gain and at that point in time before Gaston shows his true colors, Maurice's reaction was totally unreasonable at the time

[@andyp9969]

ATJM Gaming but I like to think that by living in the same town he knows the kind of person he really is

[@janinek5258]

One of the wolves had a scar over its eye; which is a reference to the upcoming Lion King Live Action movie coming out next year

[@jessieflanigan7103]

sketchlog 138 OMG YESSSSSSSSS

[@xAbbieCx13]

sketchlog 138 Ooh I'll have to look out for that next time!

[@djcarson9030]

sketchlog 138 im scared but i need it

[@aseocheviix]

/ how did you see that like damn good eye /

[@kaitlynfleischer190]

sketchlog 138 I thought that's what it was! Ooh yay

[@Lucy-fp1qs]

I'm gonna have to give this film a 9 3/4

[@MegKnightus]

Lucy Spencer you could also say 9.75 lol

[@lilymanders5178]

Lucy Spencer i like wat ya did there

[@AeridisArt]

I imagined saying that in a British accent. xD

[@Lucy-fp1qs]

Meghan Clark you are completely missing the joke

[@joshuadesautels]

Meghan Clark Are you not a Harry Potter fan?

[@caseysilverrose8516]

My favorite part of the movie was during the fight between the Beast and Gaston when Gaston calls him a Beast, and then the beast chooses not to kill him and says, "I am not a beast." before putting him saftly on the ground. I think that one line pretty much sums up the entire message of the movie; Don't judge others by the cover of their book. Honestly, it's the best part of the movie in my opinion. I also quiet enjoy when Belle gives her dad back the rose from her old house. I thought that scene where she convinces him to trust her, and that she actually loves the beast and that he's good man inside also speaks to the true message of the movie. I thought Belle's relationship with her father was really quite beautiful, and the fact that he loved his wife so much was really quite fantastic.