SUPERHAWK VS. HAWK DLX (Top Speed Test)

[@Ozzyink01]

carburetor= more top end and tinkering efi= better acceleration and more reliable but lower top end.

[@Ozzyink01]

love the bike for so many reasons but I'm already feeling like I need more power!! I've only been riding for 2 months so I'm gonna hold off lol

[@jacobfulton5106]

Awesome video! Just fyi, the big bore kits don’t make it a 300cc. The kit that uses a 72mm piston makes it a true 250cc and the kit that uses the 74mm piston makes it about a 265cc. Still awesome mods to do!

[@rooseveltm2157]

I put the motocult tru250 bbk on my hawk. I ordered chinese 74.5mm kit and it did not fit in the engine case. I cant really compare and contrast between the stock 229cc and 250cc bbk because as soon as I got the bike I tore it down and hopped it up. Anyway, my point is for everyone out there, the 74.5mm kit will not fit the stock hawk.

[@jacobfulton5106]

@@rooseveltm2157 the Chinese kits have to be machined to fit.

[@TheViolatorinator]

The kit I got from the alt link he posted to aliexpress is 70mm bore, which when compared with the stock bore (67mm) and stroke (65mm) will give 250cc. 67x65 gives you 230cc and 70x65 gives you 250. What 72mm and 74mm bore kits are you talking about? Edit: checked the motocult tru250kit and it's a 70mm bore.

[@rooseveltm2157]

@@TheViolatorinator Edit: Sorry, it was a 72.5MM 350CC BIG BORE Cylinder Kit for CG250 CG 250 Upgrade kit...so even the "350cc bbk is 268cc. (.7854 x 72.5 x72.5 x 65) I got the 72.5mm kit from aliexpress and it did not fit. The 70mm was what I got at motocult (tru250). The cylinder was too big to fit in the stock engine case with a 72.5mm bbk.

[@johnvolstad5870]

@@rooseveltm2157 My cases measured 74.3 mm. I had the machine shop turn th 76.25 sleeve to 74mm. Then had to take 2.5mm off the jug top deck. acieving an honest 105psi. With my Nibbi 30 40/125 I got the mixture correct. 80mph on the highway, with Shinko tires.

[@collinclark6086]

Great video. Been watching alk these Hawk videos sincle I got mine. In South Africa it ships stock with a 17t front sprocket, so it can do about 125kph, or 75mph from the dealership. Going to put a new exhaust on it, a 38t rear sprocket, and do the airbox mod to it soon. Thanks for all the tips and tricks with this bike.

[@gerhardvanwykzs4rum685]

I did not know we also got hawks in S.A i know we have the bigboy and bashan here but they are all the same thing just different names

[@collinclark6086]

@@gerhardvanwykzs4rum685 yeah the TSR 250 is the Hawk 250. Very happy with mine so far. Started on a Superlight 200.

[@1polaricat]

I have a dlx, decently modified and tuned and 75 mph is pretty normal now. Awesome easy to work on bikes hopefully they come out with a liquid 300 or bigger

[@johnvolstad5870]

There are some coming out later this year, I have been told.

[@briandetrick2688]

the tunes for efi hawk suck moto cheese lost 5mph. its just not their yet

[@Diddlemiggers]

How fast did it top at stock?

[@johnvolstad5870]

Thank You SO much. My "Super Hawk 300" can do 80 MPH ! Made great friends at Austin Auto Machine. First had to trim the sleeve to 74mm. Slid the jug on the piston. OMG. Deck to piston top was -3.5mm. Had the bros' shave 2.5mm. off the jug. 105psi. I was able to run my Nibbi30 with .40/125 and get a tan spark plug. On MOPAC I did an honest radar speed of 80mph ! BANZAI !

[@datvik7187]

Awesome. Plz share a video

[@ryantaylor4196]

Yeah definitely make a video

[@johne3999]

dude you can't just brag about your one of a kind super hawk 300 and not make a video. vids or it didn't happen. lol

[@davidbrandenburg4102]

Awesome man

[@JuniorHenderson-i6q]

A 4° advanced timing key and would add the much needed off idle response and torque to compliment the big bore kit and nibbi carburetor.The advanced timing usually introduces a bit more engine heat but the oil cooler would remove that extra heat.

[@maico4902]

Your channel is brilliant. The hawk motorcycle looks a great motorcycle for the price Shame we can't get them in the UK It's nice to ride along side you on your motorcycles Keep up the fantastic content 👍 👍 👍 👍 😀

[@mototaco6603]

thank you bro

[@johnvolstad5870]

Try the 2022 Zongchen 250. you can get an honest 249.9 cc bike with a six speed gearbox for $2199.95.

[@Devil3R]

Thanks . bout to pull the trigger on a EFI.

[@billwiley7216]

The only drawback I have with the EFI is down the road how available will the fuel injector controller or ecm be and/or a replacement efi unit in case of failure. With the carbed version there are many carburetors that will work on this bike and the electrical requirements to operate the bike are pretty simple and inexpensive. Wish they offered a carbed model which had the inverted forks as that does seem to be a nice upgrade. No doubt EFI is nice as there is no choke to fool with and altitude changes are adjusted for but on such an simple bike it adds a lot of unneeded complexity. But both bikes are nice, perfect for me would be the modded 300 motor and electrics in the delux bike chassis!

[@mototaco6603]

carb version with the inverted forks i would soooooooo purchase

[@Charles-yv9wy]

​​@@mototaco6603 Buy the Brozz, and get the inverted forks, better rear swingarm, counterbalanced motor, and better seat, and nice digital cluster, and a carb. Also comes stock with 46/17 gearing.

[@1polaricat]

Ecu is a mt05 found in alot of modern day fuel injection systems for small engines also easily tunable

[@drmachinewerke1]

@@Charles-yv9wydoes the brozz use the same engine

[@benl4707]

​@@drmachinewerke1the brozz carb engine should be the same or a clone like. Electric start. It is a solid bike 55 to close 60 mph stock

[@keithmoorejr4156]

I have a 2018 carbed model, for what it is its a blast to ride in the woods and trails and I'm thinking about upgrading it over the winter

[@thomassendner3556]

Totally agree about the person coming out on top I just bought my hawk 250 the base model for the fact I can modify without any issues

[@jeffstonecipher1594]

Great video!! Interesting to see the two models compared. Just purchased a '23 DLX with the counterbalanced EFI version. Already been a blast just to tool around the city in -planning to trailer it up north to trails we ATV on to see how it handles rough stuff. Definitely agree with your closing statement -this thing was a great buy for the money bar none 😉

[@svntxna]

I was thinking of getting one and this video made me sure im getting it

[@danielzapata843]

thanks for making this video know i know what bike to choose

[@mototaco6603]

No problem 👍

[@builtonabudget6160]

I just picked up a xpro 250 of the jungle site got about 400 miles on it so far and loving best 1400 buck spent !!!

[@bryson1992]

Looks like you guys were having a good time

[@Robguru]

Any updates about the Hawk DLX now that it's 8 months later? I can get one for $1850 delivered and not having to customize is perfect for me since I just want to get on and ride ;)

[@ndopumunonamweemba6104]

My chinese 150cc engine does 110km/h(70mph) And I was hopping to add a 250cc chinese engine so I was looking for the top speed but I don't get how they are equal to the big bore 300cc

[@johnkoelliker8480]

Awesome video!!!

[@mototaco6603]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@texassquirrel3059]

I bought the hawk x 2024 model and stock does 69 mph with a 190lb rider ,do you think it's mod out ?

[@mcshaggyswildadventures3952]

The 2024 model has a 17 tooth front stock

[@johnvolstad5870]

The Templar (X 250) has a 249.9 cc sixspeed. Zongshen Moto. (note) The Templar M is the same with a 5 speed.

[@kaisailor1]

Yeah, I'm looking at the TemplarX now. I think I'm gonna have to order one on payday and then mod the crap out of it.

[@datvik7187]

Nice video production

[@mototaco6603]

Appreciate it

[@OneinTheChamber06]

Is hawk worth it or should i just spend extra money for Lifan KPX 250?

[@carlgodin4661]

Forks I took off a 17' apollo db36 but couldn't figure out how to put the original headlight on and the front fender but that'll be redone soon

[@MrMagican250]

We have to do a hawk and Magican 250 race

[@johnvolstad5870]

Y R U running the incorrect stock speedo??? Get the Dige! OMG. I just wanted to thank you. My Hawk is running a 17/43. It is making so much power that I have to push DOWN to keep the front wheel on the ground ! 80 honest mph.

[@Charles-yv9wy]

Did you port the head, and install a timing advance key when you did the big bore kit ? I would think that porting the head would be a necessity, because they don't flow very well even with the stock 229 cc displacement.

[@mototaco6603]

ported heads is next, i dont think a timing advance is necessary

[@johnvolstad5870]

@@mototaco6603 The folks who build the ultra retro JANUS bike have their line of upgrade parts. Like a 296 lift cam. Flow improved cylinder head.

[@juniorhenderson7512]

​@@mototaco6603The timing key is absolutely worth it! Why not upgrade the cam when you did the bbk? A ported head and cam would completely transform your bike.

[@Puffalupagus360]

Holy smokes someone knows how to do a good review comparison.

[@ndopumunonamweemba6104]

Tuck In you riding position and reduce air drag.. My stock chinese bike says 90km/h in the manual but when I lean forward and tuck in moto gp style it goes to 110km/h am sure you can get to 130km/h (90mph)

[@eNeVeFamily]

Awesome vid I was looking into one but its to tall for me. Power Sports has it for around 1900 free shipping

[@eNeVeFamily]

Below is a link to the sale

[@mototaco6603]

im pretty short its honestly not that tasll, you can lower the suspension too

[@mrjackdog]

Thanks, I have a DLX, I think I'm going to gear it up to 15×45 from 14×50? #'s?

[@Bikencarguy]

My hawk broke down 2 weeks ago. When i try to start i hear clanking and when i kick it i hear something knocking around in the engine. I just did my valves plus it sound like something a look more bigger and dense inside the engine block

[@mototaco6603]

please post this to the fb hawk 250 riders page

[@johnvolstad5870]

Take it apart and you will find your missing 10mm socket. LOL

[@darianballard2074]

Better video then the last one.

[@jactilm8687]

The efi fuel pump can put you walking like it did me so i converted it to carb.

[@RedfishInc]

There's no replacement for displacement.

[@RobertHoward-d4c]

Fastest i ever got mi e to go was 83. And i rode it 5 hours straight at 75..the dlx..im working on a carb build..

[@brianhalliday2384]

There is no replacement for displacement.

[@ergr72]

Great video

[@ProDigit80]

Does that bbk also work on the 180lbs dlx 150?

[@briandetrick2688]

you beat him by a bike link. il keep my efi

[@thebrothers4311]

You should compare to a CSC TT250

[@joshlorusso3751]

I havent seen anyone get standed due to fuel injector, because most vehicles have multiple cylinders and can still run without a single one working. However i have seen people stranded due to electronic fuel pumps failing. Carbs all day, ecu(computer) can also fail. I just hate wiring, why would i want to make it more complicated?

[@flat_stickproductions209]

Is that a 28mm Nibbi?

[@lucasgames4427]

Iv got a ttr230, so I'm chilling, but I might buy a x pro 250

[@mototaco6603]

@@lucasgames4427 NGL that ttr 230 may outlast your hawk by 3x 😂 nothing wrong with both tho 🤷

[@vince4984]

When you assembled it, did you have to adjust the valves?

[@mototaco6603]

Yeah but that’s not a big deal, set it to top dead center, use a leaf on a feeler gage for 0.003 thousandths of an inch, if it passes with a slight drag tighten them screws and you’re good to go. If not adjust as needed

[@3dtactical475]

Where’s a reliable website I can pick one of these up at?

[@mototaco6603]

amazon! they even let you finance them on there for like $63 dollars a month. for a bachelor whos just chillin that would be insane. wish these were around when i was like 16-17

[@rashawnflowers9776]

Me living in belize a dollar bz = 2$US si if I buy a motor for 1k here I will be 2k and that sucks

[@danielpatrick368]

Ofc the carb is going to win with that bbk...

[@fardinandlundgren7518]

Why not deluxe with big bore kit and just put on an carburator??? I want, no I need the good suspention. But I like the big bore and just put on a carburator on the deluxe 🤷‍♂️ Why not?

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

And they have a 250 unknown it's slightly more money then the dLx and it says 20hp

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

I bet u if geared the dlx for top end it would've kept pushing

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

I have the kpx250 on LayAway do u think it's a decent choice

[@mototaco6603]

efi and 6 speed, some may say its a better choice thank the hawk 250. havent personally tested one but these specs im reviewing speak for themselves. i may want to pick up one myself if finances permit it

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

@@mototaco6603 I'm layawayin that bad boy I had a kp mini 150 loved even tho it said 2022 a d they sent me the older model and it had a cracked mount from Txpowersports the mco said 2016 and I ordered a white 2022 model smh they sent me the red and black one for 2000 bucks I ate it loved it still put 500 miles on it got 1500 even tho I upgraded the mirrors gave the kid my helmet all that cus thats wen covid hit and all them bills hit me lol I had fun it was a great bike but now I'm with venom way better communicating with Mark he's awesome compared to those Arlington sports Texas powersports all them suck they robbed me imo u feel me some grimey stuff they only gave me 100 bucks back 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

@@mototaco6603 don't 4get the Templar x is sick too

[@lucasgames4427]

And what if x pro made 450s

[@ubermike412pgh9]

❤️❤️❤️

[@sweendawg7274]

These are all over mexico. They sell them at the mexican costcos decked out for 1800$

[@toochmagooch712]

I know this is a video about the Hawks, but it’s hard to ignore the s13 in the background @ 1:14, anyone else? Lol

[@markow6346]

The hawk is so much reliable with upgrades

[@user-fz2ul7wl2d]

Fuel injection is a massive deal.

[@z1berzerker]

RPS is the company that manufacturers these 👍🤷😎

[@davidlangston7489]

Bro its a air cooled thumper you don't need to upgrade your injectors or map after boring it out you'll be fine 😂

[@johnvolstad5870]

If You want speed. I know how. If you want to wheelie all day, I know how. My hawk can do 80mph. The officer wrote me a warning, he was so impressed !

[@tonysketch]

What mods u got on her?

[@yurionabike99]

How

[@jacobcater5527]

I mean You gonna spill the beans?

[@angelavila4367]

He's lying your a liar

[@WesleyZimmerman-by7lq]

How you do that?

[@l8tapex]

what parish? lol

[@tylerfengler2884]

Idk what this guy is smoking but both hawks you have to pay delivery fee.

[@Dubs.C.]

Hah. Nobody has a functioning speedometer on these things.