Superior Drummer 3 SDX Comparison: The Progressive Foundry vs. Death & Darkness for Metal Production

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Back with another drum plugin video by popular demand. This is all about The Progressive Foundry and Death & Darkness SDX packs for Superior Drummer.
Both of these have some great kits and great individual drum selections. If you spend time setting it up right for your needs, you can definitely get some great drum sounds with either pack. I want to say that The Progressive Foundry was a little disappointing. The Death pack worked best for me.
I decided to use this project file because it's one track, with no multi output routing. So that makes it way easier to flip between different SDX packs. Peep how you can change mixer presets, drums presets, and both at once. Very powerful!
I find Toontrack Superior Drummer presets to be pretty lacking. I can usually find one or two per pack that sound good. So I end up having to start with those and then customize it. I frequently multi output route everything, add trigger samples, and put a buss compressor and saturator.
Let me know how it sounds. I hope I addressed the feedback from my last Superior Drummer vs. Get Good Drums video!
The musicians featured on this track:
Reuben Gingrich - Drums
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Yas Nomura - Guitar & Bass
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Colin Cook - Guitar
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[@MorbidVizions]

Thanks for the samples brother. Definitely a couple really good sounding kits in here for the thrash and metal that we play. For sure gonna check out some of these packs for quick drum sounds off midi before we lay acoustic mic'd. Rockin' track you've laid also man! I'll be back for more!

[@LucasMessore]

Thank you 🤘🏽

[@wyrlismike]

i love the classic sound of the darkness kits, im an old school guy so that library is tasty as hell

[@UsernameInvalid48]

Death sounds fucking perfect. Good shit thanks for the demo I'm gonna be picking this one up for sure.

[@LucasMessore]

Thanks yes do it!

[@kylegrossi8175]

That Mark Lewis pack to this day still has the best sounds of all the Toontrack stuff for metal and hard rock. IMO

[@LucasMessore]

I definitely agree. The kits are great, also great snares.

[@starmadnes1401]

part 2 ?!? gooood work Lucas... ✌🤟💪

[@LucasMessore]

Thank you, you want a part 2??

[@starmadnes1401]

@@LucasMessore of course!!! 👍 if you have time, I would love to see your opinion. I do the production for myself, but again, I would like to hear another opinion. P.S. I liked that you chased the tone in Superior without plugin. big up Lucas... 👏👏👏✌🤗

[@MoonlightSocial]

Nice work!

[@Alienor-music]

Hi Lucas! Thanks for the video. When I run real drums through SD it gives me each instrument on a separate midi track. I drag these in my DAW (except for the OH, I use the originals), put an instance of SD on each track with only the respective instrument enabled. Works fine. But when I use SD grooves it only gives me a single midi with everything together. Is there a possibility to have it split in single tracks for each instrument, too? Sorry for the long text, hope I could make it clear!

[@LucasMessore]

Makes sense, that's a task for sure. I don't think SD3 has a feature for that but some DAWs definitely do. If you are using Cubase or Pro Tools definitely can split up midi by note names (although the actual name of the feature/function is different in each daw). Not in ableton though. You'd have to manually drag the midi notes to new tracks!

[@Alienor-music]

@@LucasMessore thanks for replying 😊! I’m using Logic and it is possible to separate midi by note pitch but Logic doesn’t let me edit each track, they’re somehow connected 🙄and I have to drag each to another track, insert SD and then I need to join all tracks that belong to the same instrument (snare top/bottom, several HiHat…) which is very time consuming. Oh well, no easy way then😉!

[@fal4493]

You CAN select specific parts from a midi froove (snare, hi-hat etc) to drag and load into the tracker thingy

[@Alienor-music]

@@fal4493 thanks, I will try again!

[@Bigjuergo]

do you have to tune the drums to the song?

[@LucasMessore]

Honestly, I usually do or try to when I'm recording live drums. But de-tuned drums in Superior sound kinda funny to me. So I usually don't in superior, but it's worth a try because it's definitely the move. Tuning drums changes the game for any type of production. Also works really well with electronic samples!

[@FlightDeckStudios]

How do you get the midi files to appear on the SD3 track?

[@LucasMessore]

Just drag them over!

[@FlightDeckStudios]

@@LucasMessore well I’ll be darn. Imma do that. I e tried to hit record and other things, looked online to no avail. Thank you so much!