Superman 2 - Kal-El & Jor-El

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Superman 2 Richard Donner cut

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@ColinPMcEvoy
@ColinPMcEvoy 2 жыл бұрын
My god, Reeve is just so damn good as Supes. He plays Clark, Superman, Kal-El as 3 different personalities. His speech pattern, body language, the whole nine. There will never be an actor who captures that essence nearly as much as him.
@nattyps3160
@nattyps3160 8 ай бұрын
Plus how freaking dedicated he was to not wearing body pads but actually getting that built. He was always tall & great looking but he was so so thin just a regular tall lanky kid as hrs only 24 here. They filmed all this in 77 & reeve was born the very end of 52 in late Dec so to go from like 160 to 240 of pure muscle is incredible. He also had blonde hair they dyed black which looks great w/ those blue eyes. Geez sorry he was so talented so gorgeous so young & for what happened to him is so tragic. I ll keep it upbeat I agree he really plays superman clark amazing & u make a great point rarely did we see kal el as regular kryptonisn only in talking to his dad or mom in lesters version.
@JBags72
@JBags72 Жыл бұрын
Both Brando and Reeve were perfect for their respective roles. Reeve was born to be the Man of Steel. 👊🏻
@rocknroller77
@rocknroller77 5 жыл бұрын
So handsome. The white button down, sleeves rolled with the black slacks..gorgeous
@ArmyJames
@ArmyJames 5 ай бұрын
The shirt was a size or two too small. I guess he kept normal close in the Fortress.
@VictoriaJohnson-j7k
@VictoriaJohnson-j7k 2 ай бұрын
One beautiful man.RlP , Chris.😢
@WarhawkBeyond2040
@WarhawkBeyond2040 8 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing and emotional scene with two first class act actors RIP: Christopher Reeve and Marlon Brando
@christopherknight4864
@christopherknight4864 7 жыл бұрын
Both Christopher Reeve and Marlon Brando died in 2004
@MegaDazza87
@MegaDazza87 6 жыл бұрын
warhawkBeyond2040 and Margot kidder R.I.P
@GisherJohn24
@GisherJohn24 5 жыл бұрын
warhawkBeyond2040 The theatrical is too much campy stuff. And the anorexic Lois lane in 2 then going back to healthy Lois lane threw me off . Also no John Williams is huge. Ken Thorne did ok but too tinny. Also having Brando back was awesome. Donner cut forever
@emmanueloluga9770
@emmanueloluga9770 4 жыл бұрын
@ Yeah, but this creates a better sense of responsibility which too many humans seem to lack, I myself included on occasion.
@hunterolaughlin
@hunterolaughlin 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherknight4864 Such a terrible year.
@shayekisitu
@shayekisitu 7 жыл бұрын
Gosh Christopher Reeve was a gorgeous, beautiful and very handsome man. He was the perfect Superman. In my opinion, the best. I saw all the Superman movies as a kid and had such a crush on him. He was awesome. God rest his soul.👍❤️👌😊🙋🌺🌸
@indigosunset70
@indigosunset70 7 жыл бұрын
Shaye Kisitu aka Jannah225. he was beautiful on the inside too. his poem...about the lighthouse of hope
@peterp2153
@peterp2153 6 жыл бұрын
Guy’s probably trolling or some right winger who thinks Reeve was an “evil liberal” because he believed in public funding for medical research/care.
@chaoticzomba-gameplayandmo225
@chaoticzomba-gameplayandmo225 6 жыл бұрын
strontiumXnitrate lol. How is he a pervert?
@AoibheannDoyle-SoulTherapist
@AoibheannDoyle-SoulTherapist 6 жыл бұрын
Same!
@serendipityculture1679
@serendipityculture1679 6 жыл бұрын
@strontiumXnitrate Females are different then males.
@LetsGetMikey982
@LetsGetMikey982 5 жыл бұрын
Christopher Reeve is just perfect in this role.
@jerodbrown7339
@jerodbrown7339 6 жыл бұрын
Jor-El should've made him an offer he couldn't refuse...
@HundleysOnABirdDiet
@HundleysOnABirdDiet 5 жыл бұрын
Good actor reference !
@algo2957
@algo2957 5 жыл бұрын
That he could not do...
@nonmutualgroup
@nonmutualgroup 4 жыл бұрын
2:39 But Not For Real.
@miltiadiskyvernitis
@miltiadiskyvernitis 4 жыл бұрын
There's always one comment for a KZbin video that cracks one up. On this video, this is it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
@fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502
@fullspeedaheadbarcelona6502 3 жыл бұрын
He thought he made him an offer he couldn’t re-use.
@MoonLoner07305
@MoonLoner07305 7 жыл бұрын
04:31 I love the scene where Jor-El looks up at Lois as if to say, "See what you did bitch?" Lol
@CaduRJ1970
@CaduRJ1970 7 жыл бұрын
And the selfish bitch didn't even say a "no, stop, don't do this for me, I'm not worthy"...!
@richardhedderly
@richardhedderly 7 жыл бұрын
Yoko.
@keelernorth8470
@keelernorth8470 5 жыл бұрын
haha I love it!
@m.b.1111
@m.b.1111 5 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Farias 😂
@danbhakta
@danbhakta 5 жыл бұрын
But he did foresee that too.
@adbc1f72
@adbc1f72 6 жыл бұрын
The look at Lois from Jor-El at 4:30 is side eye about his son having to give us his legacy for her and the salvation of all. I’m sure it was Father and son first serious argument too.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
Its a "you're REALLY giving up being an OP God for...that feeble, weak thing? Pffft I give you 24hrs Kal before you come begging for your powers."
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
Not their first argument, to be sure. He spent years there learning and being re-educated. If he was brought up religious, then Jor-El would have to deal with that, as well as if he had race-hatred, superstitions or selfishness. The Kents may have raised him well for Smallville, but doubtless there were something he believed that needed to be addressed. Superman should have explained to Lois that his Clark Kent persona was a memory and an exaggeration of who he was growing up.
@jackwilkinson4911
@jackwilkinson4911 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I think the Richard Donner cut is better, it feels more connected to the first film by having Marlon Brando as Jor-El take away his powers rather than the mother. While the theatrical cut is watchable, I would consider it to be more of its own movie than a sequel, the Donner cut is definitely my preferred version, mainly because of Marlon Brando
@transeeyou885
@transeeyou885 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Wilkinson they filmed all brandos scenes (first movie and second) at the same time in 2 weeks. the contract was if brando appears in the second movie he'd receive 11% of gross revenue. hollywood knowing the second movie will make a lot of money because the first one did, they decided to exclude all brandos scene in the second movie.
5 жыл бұрын
@@transeeyou885 - Russell Crowe played a far better Jor El than Marlo Brandon could ever play. Even Zod was more of a villain in MOS. Nostalgia is okay, but rewriting a Superman script isn't as if they're trying to update a movie like Ben Hur.
@doncarlin9081
@doncarlin9081 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Especially the scene where Superman gets his powers back. Powerful!
@Halpin2006
@Halpin2006 5 жыл бұрын
@@transeeyou885 that is so fucked up! Of course, it doesn't surprise me. But the producers chose to use a "lesser quality" release of the sequel just so they would not have to pay Marlon Brando. That's such a long-time Hollywood cliche of producers ruining great movies because they want to adjust them for financial reasons. This is why George Lucas has flipped off Hollywood since 1980!
@dancastro6873
@dancastro6873 4 жыл бұрын
Plus we see more of Superman's human side
@m.4623
@m.4623 6 жыл бұрын
Christopher Reeve made the Perfect Superman...💋
@dancastro6873
@dancastro6873 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@shanhussain6114
@shanhussain6114 3 жыл бұрын
How could one man look so good? Like it's unfair at some point, isn't it?
@libanisanunez4056
@libanisanunez4056 6 жыл бұрын
Marlon Brando looks at Margot Kidder like "Is this what this man is giving up his powers for."?
@jackdull5699
@jackdull5699 4 жыл бұрын
I liked how Marlon Brando's Jor-El gives a distained look on his face at Margot Kidder thinking, you bitch see what you made do to my kid?!!?
@ganeshnaik6217
@ganeshnaik6217 4 жыл бұрын
no, he is just thinking like- an old saying is true, a pussy can change anything. even my superman into a fucking ordinary man. and i m glad i m not alive.
@weathersbythesavagestories4342
@weathersbythesavagestories4342 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly bro!!! This movie and the dark knight gets me heated Margot Kidder aint bad enough to give up the ability to bench press a mountain And Maggie Gyllenhaal definitely aint bad enough to have Gotham's DA and a billionaire/superhero sprung
@elchichosantana6410
@elchichosantana6410 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The woman looks like Ringo Starr
@aarongriffin5294
@aarongriffin5294 4 жыл бұрын
NOT ME FUCK THAT I WOULDN’T HAVE GAVE THOSE POWERS UP FOR A WOMAN; HELL SHE WOULDN’T GIVE IT UP FOR ME... REAL TALK
@GeraldDrake-p4r
@GeraldDrake-p4r 10 ай бұрын
Never give up your power for a woman, Never!
@danielcarlson800
@danielcarlson800 24 күн бұрын
If that's not an understatement!!!!!!!!!
@Aspect762
@Aspect762 23 күн бұрын
It's not that easy. How old are you? Do you know what it's like to love a woman?
@chriswood1210
@chriswood1210 17 күн бұрын
​@Aspect762 superman isn't there to fall in love or be in love? He is above such things. Can you honestly say is a woman worth giving up his culture and birth right
@magnusdiridian
@magnusdiridian 10 күн бұрын
Just ask samson and all the other poor schmucks who pay child support
@magnusdiridian
@magnusdiridian 10 күн бұрын
@@Aspect762 are you a woman?
@Trismagia
@Trismagia 8 жыл бұрын
Best Superman EVER
@imbaidaby311
@imbaidaby311 7 жыл бұрын
Trismagia Hahaha Good joke
@JosephProductions
@JosephProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Will Clash Like your comment.
@walteraprichard6456
@walteraprichard6456 6 жыл бұрын
all others are immitations.
@ronjackson657
@ronjackson657 6 жыл бұрын
Lois was a selfish skank!! She knew it was wrong to let him give up his powdrs
@kensstudio0806
@kensstudio0806 5 жыл бұрын
@@imbaidaby311 but he is the Best Superman Ever....
@quinnmarchese6313
@quinnmarchese6313 7 жыл бұрын
coming back and watching Reeve's fantastic performance gives me a new appreciation for Brandon Routh's portrayal in Superman Returns. He emulates Reeve's delivery and expression so well, i think
@achrisofalltrades5620
@achrisofalltrades5620 6 жыл бұрын
Quinn Marchese I always thought the same. I believe Routh really did his homework on that.
@JohnJohn-ir5hw
@JohnJohn-ir5hw 5 жыл бұрын
Right on, Quinn! Superman Returns was a super movie!!!! The homo-phobes like Kevin Smith decided to run a smear campaign against it for reasons we'll probably never really know.
@renesoto-pintor2916
@renesoto-pintor2916 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong...Routh is just a copy cat. Not his own. He wasn't trying to be Superman. Routh was trying to play Reeve's Superman.
@sabishiihito
@sabishiihito 4 жыл бұрын
@@renesoto-pintor2916 uh, that was the point. He was playing the same Superman.
@BiggerBadderBrian
@BiggerBadderBrian 3 жыл бұрын
@@renesoto-pintor2916 as above, Brandon Routh is playing Christopher Reeve's Superman. They're the same Superman/continuity/universe (Earth 96) just a different actor for obvious reasons. It would've been ridiculous if Routh hadn't copied Reeve's version.
@huckbarry579
@huckbarry579 Жыл бұрын
He was Superman!! Love Richard Donner's version took it further why Superman who he was. RIP Christopher Reeve and to all them not with us.
@thechristiancowboy6967
@thechristiancowboy6967 6 жыл бұрын
Lois is like, "gee, you did all that for me? I just wanted a one night stand..."
@candidoj
@candidoj 4 жыл бұрын
kkkkkkkk
@dancastro6873
@dancastro6873 4 жыл бұрын
He loved her
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
Shame Lois didnt love Clark, she loves Superman. As he says in a scene later..... Lois: I just want to be with the man i love, Clark Clark: I know you do Lois, its just not me. Its after Clark and a diner patron have a small one sided fight where Clark gets his weak ass handed to him.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
@@AzguardMike Funny, if Clark never learned to fight in Smallville, how did he learn how to fight General Zod and his crew? Also, I agree with OP, she was in love with Superman and detested Clark, even though she knew he was more than fond of her. Superman didn't even ask for her advice, he just went to his father and did it.
@jessicalillianweinberg4401
@jessicalillianweinberg4401 Жыл бұрын
@@sandal_thong The 90s TV series was all about Clark wanting to be loved as the real person, so while Lois was into Superman and hostile or indifferent to Clark, even though Clark loved/wanted her, he kind of kept his distance, and didn't tell her the secret, until she became friends with and then willing to date Clark. And that Lois had NO clue about the double life, even as she couldn't figure out why, if Clark Kent wanted a relationship with her, he kept disappearing. Here, it does feel like Lois is in love with the Superman persona and disillusioned once de-powered Clark gets beat up. She seemed to see Clark as just a cover for Superman - although watching some of these clips again I wonder if Clark really sees it that way.
@chaoticzomba-gameplayandmo225
@chaoticzomba-gameplayandmo225 6 жыл бұрын
I love his hair!! I want his hair. The thing I love is how cool and old-style it is.
@konkyolife
@konkyolife 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a straight male. And I happily say that is the most handsome dude ever.
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 7 күн бұрын
I'm gay and I find absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. 😊
@konkyolife
@konkyolife 6 күн бұрын
@ he will always be Superman
@georgefarrell6988
@georgefarrell6988 Жыл бұрын
I love how Jorel looks up as if he knows Lois is there and she backs up as if she can feel his stare.
@xanderguldie
@xanderguldie 8 жыл бұрын
such a handsome dude
@apaloniaburton4972
@apaloniaburton4972 7 жыл бұрын
Xander Guldie I know right
@joaniekeyser4036
@joaniekeyser4036 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, it's extremely rare these days for an actor to have the kind of features you'd see on a greek statue and still have the kind of personality that Chris did.
@Gemmarose9012
@Gemmarose9012 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothyturner1056 He must be what? A secure man that can acknowledge when another man is handsome?
@DetectiveJames2468
@DetectiveJames2468 11 ай бұрын
agreed
@QuintinScott
@QuintinScott Жыл бұрын
I LOVE how Jor-El looks up at her. The silent condemnation...
@ToylandChairman666
@ToylandChairman666 6 жыл бұрын
Despite its flaws, I enjoy the Donner Cut more. I watched the theatrical version last night. I was actually surprised at some of the elements they left out. It still has some great moments, though. I think the ending is stronger in that one. It's a shame the best of both haven't been combined to form some sort of SUPERMAN II Definitive Cut. That would probably be the best Superman movie ever.
@robertwheelock7444
@robertwheelock7444 5 жыл бұрын
That very Definitive Cut film is among my ongoing projects.
@robertwheelock7444
@robertwheelock7444 5 жыл бұрын
That very Definitive Cut film is among my ongoing projects.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
They could have animated or used storyboards for the missing or changed scenes in Superman II. Of course, Donner bears some blame in chickening out on the cliffhanger ending he supposedly had for Superman I. It's almost impossible to imagine an ending for that where Superman doesn't turn back time, but saves it for the end of II.
@channel-nv9xc
@channel-nv9xc Жыл бұрын
​@@robertwheelock7444 how's it coming along?
@channel-nv9xc
@channel-nv9xc Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. As much as I prefer certain scenes like this one in the Donner cut, there are also a lot of really campy scenes that I could do without. I also didn't especially like the fortress climax in the Donner version as much as the theatrical release.
@eswnl1
@eswnl1 4 жыл бұрын
"All your great powers will disappear.......forever". Like that deliberate pause in between.
@FrankTheTank14507
@FrankTheTank14507 Жыл бұрын
The best Superman actor there ever was.
@September2004
@September2004 6 жыл бұрын
1:08 Jesus, was there an ever more perfect casting in a superhero pic?
@jedijones
@jedijones 4 жыл бұрын
Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn is another one that was perfectly cast. And Chris Hemsworth as Thor.
@September2004
@September2004 4 жыл бұрын
jedijones Ummm... no. Great voice but too pretty.
@Kta8548i
@Kta8548i 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Affleck as Batman, RDJ as Iron man, Gal gadot as Wonder woman, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, Hugh Jackman as wolverine and many more
@September2004
@September2004 4 жыл бұрын
Tobi Kayode None of those are more perfect casting than Christopher Reeve... and certainly not Ben Affleck.
@jedijones
@jedijones 4 жыл бұрын
@@September2004 Affleck is the best Batman in my book. The only one to get both sides of the role right. His Bruce Wayne looks just like the animated series version. And his Batman doesn't have a ridiculous voice that causes bad laughs like Christian Bale's. I don't think Hugh Jackman was perfect casting as Wolvie at all. Wolvie should not be a leading man type but should be a hairy, feral, unstable creature. But Reynolds, Gadot and Downey are great casting in that order.
@robhansen6553
@robhansen6553 5 жыл бұрын
think kal'el, think how the hell are you getting home? youre in the arctic circle dummy
@jedijones
@jedijones 4 жыл бұрын
Rent a car. Just funny how the movie showed how hard it was for him to get back there as a human, eating snow while walking and hitchhiking, but glossed over how hard it must've been to get back home in the first place.
@shellshock638
@shellshock638 4 жыл бұрын
@@jedijones Well when they left the fortress of solitude the first time it was early and there wasn't a lot going on with the weather. When Clark has to go back the second time it was night time meaning it was much colder and there was a storm.
@joethekinghawk7514
@joethekinghawk7514 3 жыл бұрын
Good point
@lovevideos1699
@lovevideos1699 4 жыл бұрын
Couple of things: #1 - Christopher Reeve is THE BEST superman ever. He was born to play that role. He became superman. There was no acting. He was that good. #2. That look Jor-El gave Lois. Wow. This tells me he was actually present, and not just a hologram from the past.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe part AI, part a copy of his mind. Although he says he put this together to predict almost everything he'd ask him. I mean, suppose Kal-el showed up as a super-powered brat eager to seek more powers and alien tech to dominate the planet? Then Jor-el would have his work cut out for him in re-education curricula. In the original version Luthor speaks, but the AI doesn't really understand him.
@dignerds
@dignerds 2 жыл бұрын
He's not the best ever..several have been equally great.
@vin00ify
@vin00ify 6 жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing scene! The son of "god" asking his father to relinquish his powers and his divine duties to be mankind's saviour, protector and guide because he has fallen in love with a human woman. It shows just how "human" superman is and how lonely the life of the messiah is. Superman is such a bright and joyful character who symbolises hope but it's moments like this when you realise that there is a sadness in him.......knowing that he didn't just loose his parents or family.........he lost his entire civilisation because the people of Krypton couldn't overcome their differences and work together to save themselves.
@Danimal1177
@Danimal1177 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of like Prince Harry leaving the royal family, right?
@emmanueloluga9770
@emmanueloluga9770 4 жыл бұрын
@@Danimal1177 hahaha not even close. Similar in idea, but not in effect. Unto he who much is given, much is required
@dignerds
@dignerds 2 жыл бұрын
Giving up his power for Pussy and leaving humanity vulnerable is admirable? Bull crap..If Snyder did that same thing with him people would be bitching
@walmartpimp2
@walmartpimp2 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the screen writer was inspired by The Last Temptation of Christ?
@CoCotheTurtle
@CoCotheTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@walmartpimp2 I wonder if Marlon Brando pronounced his own name as, "Marl'n?"
@ItsTimePictures
@ItsTimePictures 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame they didn’t have any close-ups of Margot Kidder. I’m assuming they were lost. There is no question Donner would have shot close-ups and used them in this sequence. Christopher reeves was so fantastic here. He really was an incredible actor. Underrated and underappreciated.
@Robby_Rob
@Robby_Rob 2 жыл бұрын
This is Donner’s cut, it was replaced due to due to the Salkinds firing Donner and not paying Brando
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
Like her Superman night shirt.
@Gemmarose9012
@Gemmarose9012 2 жыл бұрын
*Reeve, not Reeves
@heeeeeresrossy
@heeeeeresrossy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gemmarose9012 I don't know why, but it winds me up when people misspell his name. I suppose I feel that it's doing a disservice to the late man.
@CoCotheTurtle
@CoCotheTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@heeeeeresrossy Or when people think that Margot could never be serious.
@eddpower5425
@eddpower5425 9 ай бұрын
Christopher Reece was one handsome man and no one could ever deny that. Those beautiful eyes would go right to your heart.
@Libanesa-km7ir
@Libanesa-km7ir 6 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. He's more handsome than Tom Cruise and Antonio Sabato Jr
@STONESGAM
@STONESGAM 2 жыл бұрын
Lois attraction for him went down about 50 percent immediately after this. And even more after he gets his ass kicked by that meathead at the diner. Lol.
@daryg352
@daryg352 6 жыл бұрын
Christopher R.I.P. superman 💕🥀
@elicroman
@elicroman 8 ай бұрын
Christopher Reeve was amazing, a great man, beautiful on the outside and confident on the inside, that's why he is the best. Superman is the closest thing he played him very well. Sad ending for him. He was a great man.
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was funny she is wearing his superman outfit like a tee-shirt.
@sabishiihito
@sabishiihito 4 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes, a woman wearing a man's shirt is like a flag planted on a conquered land.
@timothyturner1056
@timothyturner1056 3 жыл бұрын
There's another version of her wearing a women's nightgown .
@mikeowen7526
@mikeowen7526 6 ай бұрын
I wondered why she was wearing that ❤
@kelleyburks9777
@kelleyburks9777 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher reeve very handsome man sorry he got paralyzed falling off a horse very sad rest in peace❤❤❤❤
@82fdny97
@82fdny97 2 жыл бұрын
Patrice O'Neal was right about this scene. "No real woman would ever ask her man to give up his powers"
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank 2 жыл бұрын
There must be fake women out there.
@RPMCanes
@RPMCanes Жыл бұрын
She certainly was not in love with the guy that didn't have the superpowers.
@masterofallgoons
@masterofallgoons Жыл бұрын
Haven't heard that bit, but Patrice O'Neal got a lot of things right
@82fdny97
@82fdny97 Жыл бұрын
@@masterofallgoons look up Patrice Superman
@masterofallgoons
@masterofallgoons Жыл бұрын
@@82fdny97 - will do, thanks for the heads up
@anthonylaudati
@anthonylaudati 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think Lois Lane would be so selfish and allow Superman to forsake his powers for her love. She would yell, "Stop! You can't do this! I'm not worth it! The world needs you!" She would even lie and say she doesn't really love him, or that it was just puppy love. Lois has her own code of honor, and she would never let Superman go through with it.
@RPMCanes
@RPMCanes Жыл бұрын
She sure wasn't in love with the guy that DIDN'T have the superpowers.
@natalieps2387
@natalieps2387 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! So much better than Lester's version. I love how jor-el gives lois a death stare for being the reason he does this. I also love how cal-el says " selfish ? After all I've done for them " such a powerful scene. Why couldnt he stay superman & still be with lois? Why did he have to lose his powers.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
Once his father was gone, then he could do as he thinks best; "The son becomes the father; the father becomes the son."
@jedijones
@jedijones 2 жыл бұрын
Same reason Spider-Man had to dump Mary Jane. 😂 And why the Jedi can't have girlfriends.
@robbone4
@robbone4 Жыл бұрын
I love Lois' outfit
@Scripture-Man
@Scripture-Man Жыл бұрын
Such an awesome scene and the Donner Cut team did a great job putting this together. The theatrical version (Richard Lester) with Lara is also excellent, with arguably better dialog, a more mature-looking Christopher Reeve, and a wonderful detail of Lara stepping out of the crystal. Everything also looks much more polished, plus it features Lois/Margot Kidder, which Donner hadn't yet shot for this scene. However, THIS version is the best because it's father, not mother. This whole conversation MUST be with his father! I don't care about pay disputes, the decision to cut Jor-El/Brando out of the movie was SO stupid, since it's all about him, really! Kal-El is to Superman what God is to Jesus. Another detail I love about this one is that moment at the end when Jor-El looks up at Lois. It's chilling, because up until that point you don't think the hologram is even aware of her, but there's actually a look of judgement! Scary stuff! Amazing film! :-)
@davesteller6301
@davesteller6301 4 жыл бұрын
Clark exits the chamber, and ordinary man. He walks up to Lois. Lois take him by the hand, then tearfully says "Clark, we need to talk."
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
Clark: Gee sure Lois. What about Lois: i actually loved Superman..... you're just kinda....well, lame. Clark: oh......crap baskets.
@davesteller6301
@davesteller6301 3 жыл бұрын
@@AzguardMike it took a year for someone to respond to that? I thought that was humor gold. Oh well, thanks for the comment... and yes definitely what Lois should have said.
@stratyocasterson9237
@stratyocasterson9237 3 жыл бұрын
@@davesteller6301 It’s because anyone who knows the character of Lois Lane knows that she loves Clark more than Superman.
@goldenboy06
@goldenboy06 3 жыл бұрын
@@davesteller6301 I’ve just seen and did appreciate your humour.
@zainnnzy
@zainnnzy 10 ай бұрын
I’d like to imagine that Lois didn’t find this talk from Clark attractive at all. Changing himself for her rather than being the person she fell in love with.
@mmurrell26
@mmurrell26 7 жыл бұрын
Crazy to realize I was only 4 years old when this came out. Still remember watching these as a kid. This part 2 was always my favorite one.
@gutz1981
@gutz1981 4 жыл бұрын
Did Kal-El honestly think Lois being as superficial as she actually is would have stayed with plain old Clark? I think the sparkle she thought she had would have worn out once she got use to the idea the man she idolized can no longer fly her anywhere anymore.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
the next scene with him confirms as such when he gets knocked down by another guy and she says something about wanting to be with the man she loves and Clark replies with "I know you do Lois. He's just not here anymore." Because Lois loves Superman, not Clark.
@markherron1407
@markherron1407 Жыл бұрын
His mom Lara said the same thing in Superman 2 Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
@yokoreia
@yokoreia 5 жыл бұрын
Brando side eye unapproving looks at Lois
@babrams007
@babrams007 4 жыл бұрын
Jor-El fatherly advice is timeless: Think Kal-el!!
@libanisanunez4056
@libanisanunez4056 3 жыл бұрын
CHRISTOPHER REEVE WAS SO GORGEOUS. HE WAS AGING AND HE HAD AN ACCIDENT BUT STILL
@mamovaka
@mamovaka 5 ай бұрын
I think you mean Marlon
@mikaelmed9158
@mikaelmed9158 7 жыл бұрын
CRISTOPHER REEVE' es SUPERMAN' por SIEMPRE.
@zarander
@zarander Жыл бұрын
The way Jorel LOOKS at Lois in the end...!
@SuPerDuPerKorean2
@SuPerDuPerKorean2 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh , I love Henri Cavill superman more than anything, but this legend is straight from comic book!
@patrick4662
@patrick4662 8 ай бұрын
Am I crazy or is this way better than the Superman movies of today?
@Libanesa-km7ir
@Libanesa-km7ir 6 ай бұрын
Christopher Reeve movies looked more real because they didn't go over board with special effects. You can hardly notice the special effects that were used.In the Henry Cavill movie they went to over board with special effects.
@patrick4662
@patrick4662 6 ай бұрын
@@Libanesa-km7ir and it’s funny because I wasn’t referring to the special effects. I always assumed that anything modern - even Superman returns - looks better than this visually. But the dialogue, the deep themes, the characterization. It just all seems like a higher quality
@Libanesa-km7ir
@Libanesa-km7ir 6 ай бұрын
​​@@patrick4662You're right. You don't have that dialog and deep themes in the Henry cavill movie
@MrStarman2010
@MrStarman2010 4 жыл бұрын
Beware of the few moments of pleasure as you may forever regret them.
@antonivsfortis
@antonivsfortis Жыл бұрын
His dad is an absolute Chad
@oceanblueheart1472
@oceanblueheart1472 4 жыл бұрын
Reeve in the Prime of his life. Hot!!!
@sharkdentures3247
@sharkdentures3247 4 жыл бұрын
If they wanted to make it more "modern", then after Kal-El emerges from the chamber as Clark Kent, Lois says; "I think we should break up. It's just that you've changed & are not the same man I fell in love with. We'll always be friends." Clark
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
Thought it odd that he went to talk to his father and didn't consult Lois about it before doing it. Jor-el looked at her with hatred, to give her the chance to speak up and tell him not to do it, but she didn't. "I don't want a bodyguard, I want the man I fell in love with," said Lois. "I wish he were here," said Clark while bleeding. She's shallow and selfish, but he had to learn the hard way that it wouldn't work out. She even admits to being mean to Clark. Then she breaks down and becomes a hysteric over working alongside him. Instead of the magic kiss, I would have had Clark/Superman give her a crystal to take away part of her memory. The only thing worth watching again in _Superman III_ was Clark's relationship with Lana. I think they could have made a couple.
@desireerdawson933
@desireerdawson933 6 ай бұрын
As a woman, I would not have let him give up his powers for me. Superman really loved her but regretted it later when Zod and company came to earth. He didn't know about them. His mother tried to warn him, but he didn't listen. When I saw that crystal, I knew he would reverse chamber and get his powers back. I was so happy. I love ❤️ Superman 1 and 2. Christopher Reeve was so handsome. He was and still is the best Superman in my book.
@W00KER
@W00KER 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same, Lois failed the love test by not speaking up. She should have been selfless instead of silent. And yes, Reeve is incomparable.
@mavemont
@mavemont 5 жыл бұрын
what a great movie!!! better than nowdays version
@pobbard
@pobbard 8 жыл бұрын
Superman 2 is basically the Last Temptation of Superman: Superman gives up his powers in order to live with the human woman he loves, but discovers he can't have that life soon enough. This scene is from the Donner Cut, filmed in 1977 but only assembled for released in 2006. It's a little clunky - you can tell they needed a stand-in for the depowering itself (it was never filmed for this cut) - but still starkly different in feel to the scene that ended-up in the theatrical release of "Superman 2", where Superman talks to his mother instead of his father about his sincere love for Lois Lane. Instead, it feels more (tonally) like the first Superman film and the scenes with Jor-El in them.
@Jo-uk8ft
@Jo-uk8ft 7 жыл бұрын
They couldn't afford to use Brando's footage the first time around.
@pchuck1439
@pchuck1439 7 жыл бұрын
I feels better, wish they could have used the Brando footage.
@trevorstevenson4830
@trevorstevenson4830 7 жыл бұрын
Phil Obbard 1980
@ronjackson657
@ronjackson657 6 жыл бұрын
Wh\
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 5 жыл бұрын
Brando sued said he wasn't paid what they were suppose to pay him. I guess they worked out the problems were able to re-cut this one glad they did Brando sure did a fine job.
@brianbenfield3270
@brianbenfield3270 3 жыл бұрын
This depowering was far more intense than the original. You can sense the disappointment of Jor-El and the desperation of Clark Kent when they speak.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
His father re-educated him, although Clark had an OK upbringing, not being cruel, selfish or vain. After he realizes he made a mistake, his father gives him one more chance, but then pretty much says, "I've taught you enough, time to be your own man."
@johnbills3056
@johnbills3056 5 жыл бұрын
The Most Handsome and charismatic actor to ever play Superman. Brandon Routh is right behind...
@Benjatron-jw2rg
@Benjatron-jw2rg 7 жыл бұрын
Now how did they expect to get back home after he gave up his powers?
@transeeyou885
@transeeyou885 6 жыл бұрын
Benjatron26354 uberman
@fanboy2015
@fanboy2015 6 жыл бұрын
Crap! I never thought of that.
@ronjackson657
@ronjackson657 6 жыл бұрын
He walked to their in the first movie, so he can walk back
@Leahh823
@Leahh823 6 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about that myself
@1Bruce93Wayne9
@1Bruce93Wayne9 5 жыл бұрын
He's probably got a snowmobile parked out back.
@camillemckenzie3235
@camillemckenzie3235 4 жыл бұрын
Hot DAMN he looks gorgeous in that ensemble.
@BlayzedBlue
@BlayzedBlue 5 жыл бұрын
I liked both versions of this scene equally. Susannah York also did an outstanding job as Kal-El's mother, even though her role was small. Her delivery resonated as well as Brando's. But the Donner cut was interesting for revealing Kal-El's true feelings about not wanting to be in service to humanity forever.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
I liked _Supergirl_ starring Helen Slater, and wondered how that would go forward with Jimmy learning Superman's identity and Superman learning about his people alive in Innerspace (Argo City). I imagine they could have done a movie where Brainiac takes a city from Krypton (Kandor) so there's even more of his people alive somewhere. Another version in the comics has him mating with Wonder Woman, although they don't seem to be a married couple.
@spkanava
@spkanava Жыл бұрын
1979
@kayp2696
@kayp2696 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Christopher Reeves was the perfect Superman!
@timy.4818
@timy.4818 3 жыл бұрын
This was so much better than the theatrical version ! The dialog between Kal-El and Jor-El almost seemed Shakespearean in a way too.
@spikeep6141
@spikeep6141 4 жыл бұрын
*That’s what we call a Reality Tunnel -* “If you will not be Kal-El, if you will live as one of them, love their kind as one of them, then it follows that you must *become* one of them. This crystal chamber has in it the harnessed rays of the red sun of Krypton. Once exposed to them all your great powers on Earth will disappear... forever. Once this is done, there's no going back. You will feel like an ordinary man and you can be harmed like an ordinary man. Think, Kal-El, I beg you. Kal-El: Father... *I love her.* [ Yeah, TODAY. ] Jor-El: Think, Kal-El.
@JuanRodriguez-dq5tc
@JuanRodriguez-dq5tc 2 жыл бұрын
The best superman
@theomegaman218
@theomegaman218 Жыл бұрын
I like that Jor El never said “welcome to the family Lois”😂He just gave her that look of disgust.
@vittoriomarano8230
@vittoriomarano8230 11 ай бұрын
I prefer the version with his mother talking to him.
@HoustonSoto
@HoustonSoto 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher Reeve was such an underrated actor. Look at this scene and the one in the theatrical cut back to back. Despite the dialogue being very similar, Reeve finds a way to add different textures to each interaction: with Jor El his “father… I love her!” Line is very pointed and defiant, as he knows his father is trying to scare him and dissuade him. While the line “mother… I love her.” Is said with such sweetness and warmth, as Lara is more frightened for him.
@ericsonabufares6521
@ericsonabufares6521 3 жыл бұрын
É muito emocionante esta parte do filme !! This part of the movie is very exciting !!
@guileniam
@guileniam Жыл бұрын
0:10 "my son I am going to send Luca Brasi to visit this earth woman"
@polskillz
@polskillz Ай бұрын
“My son I am going to make this earth woman an offer she cannot refuse”
@pchuck1439
@pchuck1439 7 жыл бұрын
That look at 4:33 Jor-El gives Lois!
@dancastro6873
@dancastro6873 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. He looks as if he's about to say "You bitch!"
@spkanava
@spkanava 4 ай бұрын
1979
@danrion8839
@danrion8839 5 жыл бұрын
Superman : Father I love skinny Lois Lane. So I have to be Human. Jor El : Son, have you heard about Kim Kardashian or Beyonce. They can handle your Superpowers.
@actionfigurescollectionssu7854
@actionfigurescollectionssu7854 3 жыл бұрын
Or Dojacat or Bebe Rexha
@charlesdoyle3630
@charlesdoyle3630 3 жыл бұрын
Kim is pretty but not gorgeous. Too damn fake.
@Halpin2006
@Halpin2006 5 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for Margot Kidder. Her life ended so tragic. it's just not right, considering who she was in 1979.
@sandal_thong
@sandal_thong 2 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia said she spent her life advocating for causes she believed in. Then like Carrie Fisher: drugs.
@Halpin2006
@Halpin2006 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dana_inc Drugs and alcohol took her in May 2018. And what's really sad is that Margot was schedule (that month) to appear at Motor City ComiCon for the 40th anniversary of the first Superman movie. Her booth was still displayed to allow fans to mourn.
@bleirdo_dude
@bleirdo_dude 3 жыл бұрын
I would not give up such powers for anyone.
@timothyturner1056
@timothyturner1056 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes love can make a person do stupid things .
@andrewgac4787
@andrewgac4787 7 жыл бұрын
I like this version rather then Superman's mom
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 10 ай бұрын
They'd both whoop Kal-El for even considering it FortressDiscipline.exe -gooutsidegetmeaswitchtowhoopyourass -switchlowgradekryponitembeddedlevel10 Kal-El: what's happening? Jor-El and Lara: we're doing what any parent would do to steer our son right Kal-El is seized forcibly put over Jor-Els knee and Lara with the aforementioned switch embedded with low grade kryptonite, not enough to be lethal but enough to whoop Kal-Els super ass. His parents throw death stares at Lois implying she's next. The super-whoopin' commences
@thinicer
@thinicer 9 күн бұрын
This scene alone made the Donner Cut absolutely worth it.
@W00KER
@W00KER 5 ай бұрын
Wow, what an amazing scene. I can't believe I've never seen the Donner cut, it's a must now.
@yuljohnson6838
@yuljohnson6838 11 ай бұрын
The Richard donner cut of Superman 2 was a great alternate version! Great to see these extra scenes of Jorel!! Marlon Brando's protrayal of Jorel was on point!!
@nickcaragua5457
@nickcaragua5457 4 жыл бұрын
Saving a world will never be a personal happiness.
@manuelterrazasruiz137
@manuelterrazasruiz137 6 жыл бұрын
Even John Williams music sounds Great
@dancastro4732
@dancastro4732 5 жыл бұрын
Because John Williams is the man!
@enigmafan7131
@enigmafan7131 6 жыл бұрын
Lois in the superman top really cracks me up
@spencer757200
@spencer757200 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! It's really bad!
@carlosalbertoalberto3812
@carlosalbertoalberto3812 4 жыл бұрын
Sei que ninguem voa so no cinema mesmo, mas desses atores todos que fzeram opapel de suoermam Christofor Reeve foi oque mais marcou ...fez d tudo pra tentar ficar vivo, mas a enfermidade foi.mais forte.mas deuxou um grande exemplo ..
@Angyali
@Angyali Жыл бұрын
Clark has to find happyness as a superhuman, without Jor's advice.
@wonphi
@wonphi 2 жыл бұрын
Jor-El: Think Kal-El! Narrator: But unfortunately, Kal-El was thinking...Just not with his brain.
@hotrodbumblebee
@hotrodbumblebee 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Richard Donner
@Cranium1210
@Cranium1210 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching as a kid and being really upset supes lost his powers .
@massimo7219
@massimo7219 5 ай бұрын
What an incredible scene. How did this not end up in the final cut. This is legend right here.
@mamovaka
@mamovaka 5 ай бұрын
Brando wanted the same paycheck he got in Superman 1 to show this scene, so they did not use him
@theomegaman218
@theomegaman218 Жыл бұрын
I rather fly and kick ass then have Lois bitching at me the rest of my life.
@ironcrosstrainingltd6482
@ironcrosstrainingltd6482 5 жыл бұрын
Is this not how you make a Successful Superman movie. Damn this was so epic!! Still my favorite movie of all time!! Reeve, Brando, and Williams = Perfection P.s Margot looks amazing standing there😍😍
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank 2 жыл бұрын
Superman must have been drunk when he did this.
@GothicPrincezz
@GothicPrincezz 2 жыл бұрын
The contrast between both this scene with his father and the scene with his mother. This is the first time I’ve seen this. As much as I loved the Superman series then, I would of liked to see this one over the one initially in theaters with his mother.
@robertr2849
@robertr2849 7 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if Superman said "no!! I'm keeping my powers and going to stay with Lois"? What would have Jor El done then.
@chrispeplinski7306
@chrispeplinski7306 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about that as well.
@nicoleackerman205
@nicoleackerman205 4 жыл бұрын
He dead so would it matter.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 жыл бұрын
Jor-El: So be it, my son. Fortress defenses active. Launching PhantomZone.exe. Kal-el: Father! Whats happening? Jor-El: I am doing what any father does to protect his son. Whatever the cost. *Lois is zapped to the Phantom Zone* Kal-El: Where did you send her!? Jor-El: The Phantom Zone. Until you are over her, my son, she will remain imprisoned. Think of this as a Trial of the Heart.
@ManovSteelo
@ManovSteelo 3 жыл бұрын
He should have been fine; after all, he has powers and basically chooses Lois insofar as we are concerned for all of the adventures he's had up to this day....
@bratton79
@bratton79 2 жыл бұрын
Luca Brasi comes out and strangles Lois…
@GinolasSon
@GinolasSon 2 жыл бұрын
To think we were denied this wondrous scene for 26 years.
@RichPlayerRichPlayer
@RichPlayerRichPlayer 7 жыл бұрын
Nice scene, shows you want always that, what you dont have!
@tuliocro8153
@tuliocro8153 5 жыл бұрын
Superman deme saudades Do meu herói minha infância
@nadiaazlin5676
@nadiaazlin5676 4 жыл бұрын
Omg! Christopher Reeves. So gorgeous!
@scottpendleton2798
@scottpendleton2798 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Adam and Eve getting kicked out of the garden of Eden. Jorel is God Superman and Lois are Adam and Eve. The way Jorel looks at Lois and she backs away. Like oh shit what have we done
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