Supermium - A Modern Web Browser for XP and Vista!

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Michael MJD

Michael MJD

Күн бұрын

Web browsing on Windows XP these days can be a hassle. So today we're taking a look at Supermium: a modern browser based on Chromium that makes surfing the modern web on older machines much more viable!
Supermium: win32subsystem.live/supermium/
Supermium Source: github.com/win32ss/supermium
Support the developer: / win32
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
00:48 - Installation on XP
02:32 - Web Browsing
05:00 - KZbin on an XP Machine
09:23 - KZbin on a Vista Machine
14:25 - Chrome Extensions & Themes
16:12 - Outro
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@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 3 ай бұрын
I noticed after publishing this video that I didn't have the proper video driver installed on the XP machine (ugh). I went back and installed it, which did improve video playback performance on KZbin. It's also worth noting that this computer doesn't have a dedicated GPU, and is using the onboard Intel graphics. Still, the video playback even with the default driver was much better than I expected! I also heard from a friend of the developer, who maintains the old-browser-friendly download site, and was told that it displays properly in Internet Explorer 6 now! (in the video, the menu bar on the page didn't show up correctly). Also, the developer of Supermium has a Patreon page (www.patreon.com/win32/) where you can pledge to get early access to new releases, along with an installer that works properly on XP!
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 3 ай бұрын
Good to know! I'm curious to see how well things would go with dedicated graphics hardware, which was nothing too fancy or rare back in the day, as integrated solutions have only got to be decent in later years. Watching 720p or 1080p KZbin videos in the late Vista/early Win7 era was not that much of a feat, really. With the player that YT used back then there's no reason things would not be just as smooth with this browser, just wonder what results we would have with the current one, which probably is a significantly heavier resource hog.
@Vednier
@Vednier 3 ай бұрын
Integrated Intel GPUs actually quite good for decoding video. Not so much for gaming, ofc.
@ckingpro
@ckingpro 3 ай бұрын
@@Vednierthose GPUs don’t support video decoding. Instead, they offloaded 2d rendering offloading that from the CPU allowing it to decode better
@Vednier
@Vednier 3 ай бұрын
@@ckingproNot sure about this. Well, pure GPU is, true, just render picture. But modern is GPGPU with dedicated cores to support decoding video. How do you think mobile devices or set-top boxes do that? They have hardware decoders.
@ckingpro
@ckingpro 3 ай бұрын
@@Vednier I am aware of hardware decoding. I am just stating that the XP laptop was too old.
@dusterpl6093
@dusterpl6093 3 ай бұрын
you know what's awesome? discord works flawlessly on this browser, even voice chat and video streaming is supported! it's honestly insane that i can stream my screen to friends on an actual windows xp pc in 2024.
@cpufreak101
@cpufreak101 3 ай бұрын
I've managed to do that in Mypal browser before, but it's not consistent
@zackie2107
@zackie2107 3 ай бұрын
You can have obs on xp
@MarcWickens
@MarcWickens 3 ай бұрын
I was just wondering this, and also whether Slack / MS Teams work.
@kuba0309
@kuba0309 3 ай бұрын
@@zackie2107yeah but obs doesn’t stream to discord does it
@TheCrazyErrorLion
@TheCrazyErrorLion 3 ай бұрын
There was also that chinese "360Chrome" or 360 Extreme Browser based on chrome 83 before Supermium came out, which was one of the most modern chromium based browsers you could run on XP without doing any workaround.
@philtkaswahl2124
@philtkaswahl2124 3 ай бұрын
IE6: "So you woke me up just so you could subject me to downloading another browser again after all these years? That's cold, man."
@DoYouKnowWhoKnew
@DoYouKnowWhoKnew Ай бұрын
Underrated comment 😂
@HardbassTV.
@HardbassTV. Ай бұрын
I tested IE6 on VM, it works barely
@CPUGaming
@CPUGaming 12 күн бұрын
​@@HardbassTV.Yeah, basically the only things that work are the old net and google.
@OverTheHorizon840
@OverTheHorizon840 3 ай бұрын
MJD, just wanted to thank you for all the help. Ive kept my The Dell Dimension 2400 alive using your videos as a guide for most PCs and Laptops. Saved Hours of installing modern browers. Have a wonderful day.
@ckingpro
@ckingpro 3 ай бұрын
In addition to the browser where Supermium works, you can also get more modern software in general if you install Windows 7 (though you may need to upgrade the RAM). But, Pentium 4 isn't great for it and it will be more responsive in XP. Perhaps a dualboot.
@NazmusLabs
@NazmusLabs 3 ай бұрын
@@ckingpro you probably could install a more modern release of Limux on it that is many years more recent than Windows 7
@ckingpro
@ckingpro 3 ай бұрын
@@NazmusLabs that’s true as well. Debian continues to support 32-bit systems
@jbbiron2211
@jbbiron2211 3 ай бұрын
i just found out that Mypal (that they say it's only on winXP) also works on vista. It could play youtube correctly and does searching correctly!
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 3 ай бұрын
​@@NazmusLabs yep
@meligarcia
@meligarcia 3 ай бұрын
Supermium is also really helpful for using Chrome on Windows 7 since they ended support.
@jbbiron2211
@jbbiron2211 3 ай бұрын
mypal also works!
@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy
@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy 3 ай бұрын
8.1 too
@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy
@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy 3 ай бұрын
​@@jbbiron2211yeah but mypal is based off an outdated version of Firefox
@KyleHartley_crazybangles
@KyleHartley_crazybangles 3 ай бұрын
Regular Firefox ESR is still updated through the majority of this year.
@izznazhanzur
@izznazhanzur 3 ай бұрын
stop using os with open security problem thatll never get fixed.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 3 ай бұрын
One thing I always do with Chrome or Firefox on any older device is enable the extension enhanced h264-ify, which will let you disable 60fps and various codecs. h264 tends to be the least CPU-intensive. It's not clear to me if you could install that extension on here. If so, I'd do that. But, even then, I think it might be something to include by default to make the older computer experience better. Another useful thing would be a KZbin extension that could play the video through another video player. VLC opens KZbin videos, last I checked. And dedicated players tend to be more able to play on older computers.
@charginginprogresss
@charginginprogresss 3 ай бұрын
If it's a chrome extension, you can install it. I also endorse using h264ify, VP9 is so cpu heavy it pegs badly even cpus from 5 years ago...let alone 15-20 year old pentiums. Forcing h264 makes a world of difference.
@gammaboost
@gammaboost 3 ай бұрын
@@charginginprogresssMy 2013 Dell Optiplex runs VP9 videos on Windows XP totally fine though MyPal, so eh
@itdepends604
@itdepends604 3 ай бұрын
also 60fps video requires more cpu, which is another thing you could use extensions to do away with
@sgirix65
@sgirix65 3 ай бұрын
I use ViewTube extension and configure it to play with external player
@niezzayt3809
@niezzayt3809 3 ай бұрын
​@@charginginprogresss"VP9 is so CPU heavy even on CPUs from 5 years ago" What really? I watch KZbin on 1440p in VP9 or AV1. CPU Core i7 4790K. Barely getting 8% CPU utilization. You must have certain driver missing in your system, or, corrupted driver where it doesn't affect anything else except video playback
@Hexapoly
@Hexapoly 3 ай бұрын
i've seen supermium before and it's really cool! pretty impressive how chromium still works on the old kernels
@whyVevo
@whyVevo 3 ай бұрын
change your pfp
@Hexapoly
@Hexapoly 3 ай бұрын
@@whyVevo why?
@youmukonpaku1337
@youmukonpaku1337 3 ай бұрын
​@@whyVevomad?
@whyVevo
@whyVevo 3 ай бұрын
@@Hexapoly furry
@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy
@TheBrokenMouseWheelGuy 3 ай бұрын
​@@whyVevoyou mad?
@BoKB5
@BoKB5 3 ай бұрын
Videos like yours made me want to restore my dad's Pentium M Toshiba Tecra from 2005. I'll definitely try this once it's up and running
@Blitzer1001
@Blitzer1001 3 ай бұрын
I am currently working on an old windows xp and turning it into a 98 machine, here's one tip: replace the hard drive, it's a wonder mine still works after 20 years lol
@BoKB5
@BoKB5 3 ай бұрын
@@Blitzer1001 The IDE hard drive in mine is still perfect! If it were SATA I'd do it since a brand new SSD is literally a drop in replacement but with IDE you more or less need an adapter, usually to mSATA i think. Since it works I'll keep it for now
@MicrosoftGuy
@MicrosoftGuy 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Please do It and save that machine!
@RohanSpartin
@RohanSpartin 3 ай бұрын
Do it! I've been tinkering with Windows XP on a 2009 iMac and I found the keyboard we used with our very first desktop PC, a Compaq iPaq. I just need an adapter to convert PS/2 to USB and it will be a blast of nostalgia.
@BoKB5
@BoKB5 3 ай бұрын
@@MicrosoftGuy I'm going to do my best! It appears to suffer from some sort of power issue,given that ACPI doesn't work in either Linux or Windows. I've been working on it on and off since 2021 or something,but couldn't find the problem. Yesterday after the billionth teardown I noticed that one of the two legs on the CMOS battery is broken,and the battery itself may be dead. While it's of the soldered type it appears to be a generic part so I'll replace it asap. If that doesn't do the trick I'll need to look for a replacement motherboard. Good thing is even if I do this I can still keep the "heart and soul" of the machine,since the CPU and GPU are replaceable. Thanks for the encouragement!
@redavatar
@redavatar 3 ай бұрын
I'm currently working (and typing this on) a 16 year old Acer Aspire laptop which has a very early Core2Duo CPU and it runs KZbin at 1080p perfectly using Opera One. I was absolutely gobsmacked to discover that upgrading the laptop to 4GB of RAM and an SSD would make it perfectly capable for regular stuff like browsing, KZbin, text editing and even photo editing using Photoshop CS6 (runs very smooth). Heck, I've been installing dozens of quite "recent" (from very recent to 5-6 years old indie games and most run fine and are perfectly playable. For a 8600M GT I was very surprised. It's running Windows 7 Ultimate now (no longer Vista which it originally came with) but it shows that an old laptop does not automatically become junk. I have a nice CRT hooked up to it & use a modern keyboard & mouse and it's a lot of fun to use. You got to love CRTs ...
@fungo6631
@fungo6631 3 ай бұрын
The reason KZbin runs so well on that laptop is because of the 8600M GT likely having hardware video decoding. Even the shittiest 2 watt celeron for tiny PCs can run 4K60 KZbin just fine thanks to the hardware video decoding support.
@shawnstillman736
@shawnstillman736 3 ай бұрын
Watching a MJD video in a MJD video makes my day.
@neojakemcc
@neojakemcc 3 ай бұрын
Main takeaway from this video is you reminded me of Winworld which I forgot all about.
@Macko_z_Bogdanca
@Macko_z_Bogdanca 3 ай бұрын
Installed it today on my old win xp machine with intel core quad q9550 and I must say it is very impressive, every site I tried worked flawlessly
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 ай бұрын
Even youtube?
@cedley1969
@cedley1969 3 ай бұрын
Wonder what it runs like on 10...
@sirjarko8762
@sirjarko8762 3 ай бұрын
@@rustymixer2886 Yes, Providing your CPU is good and you have the Ram it runs like modern chrome, I have an XP machine and it ran flawlessly, That being said it was a quad core.
@VaiCaDep0893
@VaiCaDep0893 3 ай бұрын
@@cedley1969 It's still the same Chrome experience. I've tried this on Windows 10 and 11
@VaiCaDep0893
@VaiCaDep0893 3 ай бұрын
@@cedley1969 Though, for some reason, it doesn't launch on my Windows 10 LTSB 2015 VM
@pdlbackup
@pdlbackup 3 ай бұрын
This is actually really cool! The lack of web browsers on old operating systems is honestly one of the biggest issues with them. You could probably actually daily drive those OSes now if you REALLY wanted to.
@PliskinYT
@PliskinYT 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there are a lot more issues with daily driving those OSes, mainly app support if you wish to game on those OSes Steam no longer supports anything older than 10, GOG's launcher only supports Windows 8 or above (though through GOG you can launch those games without the launcher). And obviously Xbox was only introduced to Windows in Windows 10. There's also the issue of Security vulnerabilities unless someone has stepped up and is providing third party updates in 2024
@taavi948
@taavi948 3 ай бұрын
Mac OS X support is even worse and Macs become obsolete very fast :(
@thesenamesaretaken
@thesenamesaretaken 3 ай бұрын
​@@PliskinYTI'm continuing to use Steam on a windows 7 computer, I'm sure something will break eventually but it's still working. That said, trying to play games released now on an OS from 10+ years ago is hit and miss, games contemporary with the 7 or XP are reasonable but I expect soon it will be a matter of using standalone installers like the good old days. God bless GoG. And God curse Ubisoft, who have done the opposite and made old games unplayable on the operating systems they were released for (God bless those privateering seamen, who give away keys to treasure chests). Is using XP as an everyday computer really such a security risk? If its vulnerabilities are known wouldn't it be possible, at least in principle, to patch them or else provide it external security?
@PliskinYT
@PliskinYT 3 ай бұрын
​@@thesenamesaretakenI thought Steam completely disabled access to windows 8 and lower in January
@ducksongfans
@ducksongfans 2 ай бұрын
​@@PliskinYTofficially not actually
@riolubruh
@riolubruh 3 ай бұрын
You could probably just barely push 720p on that Vista machine by using an extension to stop YT from serving 60fps video. I believe enhanced-h264ify allows you to do that, and it also lets you force YT to use different video codecs to see if those perform better or worse on old hardware.
@CEO100able
@CEO100able 3 ай бұрын
Wow, that program looks very interesting to experiment in the retro computer operating system world. I will have to try it on my classic Windows XP PCs if they can handle it well. Nice work!
@UltiMaker2
@UltiMaker2 3 ай бұрын
You made a GREAT video here. I would recommend this to anyone who wants to use Chrome on old PCs. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 also lost support for Chrome in February 2023 (last version was 110), so this can be used for that too. (fun fact: Firefox is still technically supported on Windows 7/8/8.1, but it's "extended support" and the last actual version was 115)
@larrythethird4816
@larrythethird4816 2 ай бұрын
You know what everytime michael making video with win xp, vista, and 7 it gives me a nostalgic feelings back to my childhood 😢
@AnesuC
@AnesuC 3 ай бұрын
60fps is significantly more demanding. I was actually surprised that it worked on 720p. I remember this in the early days being an issue, so I think it would have performed significantly better on a 30 or 24fps video. 720p 60fps is almost equivalent to 1440p on some devices in terms of demand in my experience.
@caioramos5198
@caioramos5198 3 ай бұрын
nice to see you making a video out of it, currently using supermium 119 on my vista notebook and it works great
@iXx4L
@iXx4L 3 ай бұрын
Web pages keep crashing for me on vista does that happen to you?
@caioramos5198
@caioramos5198 3 ай бұрын
@@iXx4L not at all, just some assets wont load, mostly emojis, but never had any crash
@NicoandLuis
@NicoandLuis 3 ай бұрын
I just happened to install WIndows XP today and was wondering if there was a modern browser that I could even use. This is the perfect timing.
@KepejasLT
@KepejasLT 3 ай бұрын
Why would you install such an old os?
@darkprinc979
@darkprinc979 3 ай бұрын
Another alternative is MyPal, which is based on Firefox instead of Chromium.
@freemangman
@freemangman 3 ай бұрын
same for retro gaming and using old cd/dvds
@darkprinc979
@darkprinc979 3 ай бұрын
@@KepejasLT There are multiple reasons to do so. Some people do it for nostalgia, some because they want to tinker with it. Some software that worked on XP won't work on modern operating systems, so if you have software like that and want to use it, you go with XP. Just because something is old does not mean it is useless and should just be abandoned, and just because something is new does not mean it is better in every way, or even at all.
@Stev417
@Stev417 3 ай бұрын
Dude I love the fact that your wall is covered in floppy disks! It looks SO COOL
@youssifmansour
@youssifmansour 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for these amazing videos, MJD! I love them. You are my top favorite KZbinr and I hope you continue uploading these fantastic videos ♥
@pete8475
@pete8475 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, I just downloaded Supermium on my XP gaming machine and it works nicely. Also subscribed!
@cactus4944
@cactus4944 3 ай бұрын
It's awesome to think that Windows XP released in 2001, and it still gets love from developers! I'll immediately install Supermium on my Windows XP machines!
@locobrown
@locobrown 3 ай бұрын
Most people had perfectly functioning XP machines. Those that abandoned them for newer hardware are those that are not so technically inclined. If any of you have machines stored away some where, you'll be surprised that most mid-tier legacy hardware can run Windows 10 exceptionally well circa 2005. You will be limited today dependent of your GPU in regards to video playback. I am running a Lenovo T60, custom build Windows 10 (Tiny10), and video playback on KZbin at 480 is perfect. Once you try the other resolutions you'll experiences issues. In regards to gaming, its all dependent on whether or not you have integrated graphics. You are stuck on a laptop with the GPU you got, on a PC you can upgrade your GPU to whatever your mobo allows. The beauty of this browser is that if you need to boot into XP to use era version software and need to access the internet, you no longer need to boot back into your main OS or have a second PC running alongside it. Windows XP is great, i stuck with XP and only upgraded to Windows 10 due to my workplace requirement. My laptop cannot emulate Windows XP from a virtual machine, so I require a dual boot. Just because a new Windows version got released, it doesn't mean your computer became obsolete. Repurpose it to fit your needs.
@opfax163
@opfax163 3 ай бұрын
oh my , thank you I'm gonna use my XP for another 10 years
@opfax163
@opfax163 3 ай бұрын
XP refuse to die
@rakshanaaaa
@rakshanaaaa 3 ай бұрын
so glad u put this out my guy, i was just tryna look for a good browser to use that wasnt firefox
@TheSolcity
@TheSolcity 3 ай бұрын
Always high quality videos man! 🔥
@arnislacis9064
@arnislacis9064 3 ай бұрын
Supermium, Legacy Update, and KernelEX on Windows Vista, this makes Windows Vista more usebale even today!
@tristansewell5986
@tristansewell5986 3 ай бұрын
If you can install Chrome extensions, h.264ify and a GPU that supports AVC hardware decoding would make KZbin usable. Radeon X1000 or some GeForce 600 series GPUs, or Clarkdale/Arrandale iGPUs would work.
@StringerNews1
@StringerNews1 3 ай бұрын
Coincidentally I just looked it up. To get basic VP9 NVDEC playback, you need either a GeForce GTX 750-965M using the GM206 chip, or a GT 1030 or up. For AV-1, you need a 3000 or Up NVIDIA card. But for MPEG video including H.264, any NVDEC card will work. Don't know much about the others, but did notice that a lot of Intel integrated graphics units have MPEG-2 support listed, but not AVC.
@tristansewell5986
@tristansewell5986 3 ай бұрын
@@StringerNews1 nvidia didn't support anything more modern than the GTX 960 on XP, though I've heard the hardware checks can be circumvented and 980s can be installed.
@EvilTurkeySlices
@EvilTurkeySlices 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the enhanced version, as it gives more options.
@StrawberryFox56
@StrawberryFox56 3 ай бұрын
Wow another video after the last one within a quick time period. Thats really impressive!
@SL4RK
@SL4RK 3 ай бұрын
Probably the most amazing thing about this is that windows xp is 23 years old, it's older than most of the subs.
@TheStarscouts
@TheStarscouts 3 ай бұрын
This video released literally as I was installing Windows XP
@Chris.123
@Chris.123 3 ай бұрын
All of your videos are the best
@robertschnobert9090
@robertschnobert9090 3 ай бұрын
MJD only has the best videos, but some of his videos are the BESTEST 🌈
@opal817
@opal817 3 ай бұрын
I just tried this on a 2007 Dell that was collecting dust & after turning on all the flags that enable gpu support, it runs *ever better* than it did 17 years ago?! It couldn't even handle HD video back then, but for some reason KZbin runs perfectly fine now in Supermium? I'm kind of shocked. Major props on getting this compiled for i386 systems.
@Choola137_Akv
@Choola137_Akv 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Very soothing. I also like using Windows XP! I just feel comfortable with the old operating systems!
@nohej2202
@nohej2202 3 ай бұрын
Creator of this browser is final boss of gigachads
@apollolux
@apollolux 3 ай бұрын
I was surprised you didn't open the KZbin stats for nerds on either XP or Vista during the video. Sure, it was obvious to anyone with working eyes or ears that the video and audio weren't on par with systems using better specs, but it would've been groovy to put some numbers to it.
@BULLIBULBUL
@BULLIBULBUL 3 ай бұрын
i don't comment that often, because it needs a login.. i'm using open source software to watch youtube, so i'm sorry that you didn't get any money for it! (ads make me vomit! it's a waste of lifetime i never get back!) anyway, i love your channel and your content! especially videos about BeOS and HaikuOS.. because i had this systems back in the days! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPREADING THE WORD! keep up your work here on yt! and please let me know if i can support your channel in any way! all the best, stay healthy and please upload more content!
@johnsmith9205
@johnsmith9205 3 ай бұрын
This news made my day, I've had a retro gaming XP machine with a Core i3 and Intel HD 2000 just sitting on a table for a while, this can make it a lot more fun.
@antibrevity
@antibrevity 3 ай бұрын
Reminder: if you find it valuable to have a modern browser running in legacy Windows, donate to the project. I have no connection to it, but this type of project is usually hard to sustain.
@93Volvo240
@93Volvo240 3 ай бұрын
I watched this on a Dell Inspiron E1505 from 2006. Its specs are as follows: 4GB RAM, Intel Core 2 Duo T7600, ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, OCZ Vertex 3(?) 120GB SSD, 1680x1050 LCD, and Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. Using Opera 95, I was able to stream this and most most other videos at 720p with minimal lagging. This laptop is currently my daily driver, despite having an 11th Gen i5 powered Lenovo within arms reach XD Thank you so much for making these videos as they have really helped me keep my old computers going! I can't wait to see whats next!
@EvilTurkeySlices
@EvilTurkeySlices 3 ай бұрын
I'm watching this on a late-2009 MacBook with 8gb of ram, a Core 2 Duo p7330, geforce 9400m graphics, a 1280x800 display, a 500gb 7200RPM 2.5" hard drive(the ssd just died), and running 10.13 High Sierra.(I also have 10.7 Lion, and 10.9 Mavericks installed)
@Vednier
@Vednier 3 ай бұрын
You know that, old pc is one thing, but to use OCZ Vertex...are you serious? Early SSD is not vintage, they just bad, controllers simply going nuts with bugs. You can easy switch to any modern TLC based SSD and it will be way better, even if NAND is technically worse.
@93Volvo240
@93Volvo240 3 ай бұрын
@@Vednier I know, I used that drive because it’s what I had on hand, not to complete the “vintage” setup. So far, it’s been totally fine though. No errors, and it’s pretty fast,
@Vednier
@Vednier 3 ай бұрын
@@93Volvo240Yes, i see, but problem with those early SSD is that they tends to just die suddenly, without any prior signs. This is, actually, problem with all SSD, but modern one at least try to show some warnings prior or go read-only on first internal problem. OCZ stuff was known to just "stop working". I would not use it for any even remotely valuable data. Its miracle its still alive, i heard of people literally changing them in months, as expendable. And one additional word about speed - probably not as fast as modern ones. Current SATA SSD already reached limits of SATA interface, some not without tricks, some by pure NAND speed.
@93Volvo240
@93Volvo240 3 ай бұрын
@@Vednier I understand, but I don’t see a need to replace it right now. There is no important data on that computer whatsoever, so if the drive dies tomorrow, I’ll just replace it.
@A26Kcg
@A26Kcg 3 ай бұрын
I was looking for browser on windows xp and found this thing, Thank you Michael!
@GuyManley
@GuyManley 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff. I just needed an XP machine to interface with a mid 2000s mp3 player. This made finding and installing those drivers way nicer.
@StevenFail_Kuyashi
@StevenFail_Kuyashi 3 ай бұрын
Supermium is an awesome project for longevity
@HuzaBird0.2
@HuzaBird0.2 3 ай бұрын
I'm Firefox user I not like chromium stuff
@lollyhd1713
@lollyhd1713 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but the Supermium dev is planning to do something like this for Firefox at the end of this year.
@juser-abuser
@juser-abuser 2 күн бұрын
Gayfox is one of the browsers ever made.
@HuzaBird0.2
@HuzaBird0.2 2 күн бұрын
@@juser-abuser i not like just to evrythink is run by cromium...
@lilmonix
@lilmonix 3 ай бұрын
I tested this on a Pentium E5200, 2GB RAM. It works quite well for my dad's simple needs like watching KZbin and surfing the web. March 3, 2024 4:42AM
@klubuntu
@klubuntu 3 ай бұрын
Thank You for review, I will need to update my Browser on Windows XP
@aalcomtive
@aalcomtive 3 ай бұрын
this video made me eat mcdonalds in supermarket edit: thanks for 142 likes i am so famous edit 2: :O 200 likes edit 3: you guys are much crazier
@RetroGamerOG_
@RetroGamerOG_ 3 ай бұрын
Relatable
@Orange_729
@Orange_729 3 ай бұрын
this video made me invade poland
@Efeboss34
@Efeboss34 3 ай бұрын
​@@Orange_729 Führer mentality
@wikwayer
@wikwayer 3 ай бұрын
​@@Orange_729what is there to invade ?
@circuitguy1010
@circuitguy1010 3 ай бұрын
20 hours ago
@windowsnt63official
@windowsnt63official 3 ай бұрын
Windows Vista is usable enough on its own with Firefox 52 which can ACTUALLY be installed from IE7, unlike IE5 on Windows XP. Therefore, it makes no sense to run Supermium on Windows Vista. Supermium is still a great browser for Windows XP.
@Kiki79250CoC
@Kiki79250CoC 3 ай бұрын
Firefox 52 is starting to get "unsupported" by many websites, like Google that now use the mobile version of it's UI. It still works, but it's just a matter of time before it won't. Also XP it's IE 6, not IE 5. But if you do all updates you should have IE 8, even on SP2.
@windowsnt63official
@windowsnt63official 3 ай бұрын
@@Kiki79250CoC It isn’t actually getting unsupported by them. These websites are not actually impacted and the Apple website still manages to somehow look terrible on this browser like it always did.
@guynamedstevo6581
@guynamedstevo6581 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention security issues... I don't get why people don't just use Debian with lxqt. Runa perfectly fine on a q9950
@windowsnt63official
@windowsnt63official 3 ай бұрын
@@guynamedstevo6581 Linux just isn’t compatible with a lot of Windows software, and the alternatives are meh, to say the least.
@nathanaelfirlaputralumbant6037
@nathanaelfirlaputralumbant6037 3 ай бұрын
This is gonna useful for Windows XP and Windows Vista Users :D
@khisel1
@khisel1 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and your quest to make retro new again! One ding for Supermium is that there isn't (yet) an unistall mechanism.
@Clickificationist
@Clickificationist 3 ай бұрын
🤢 chromium
@shatteringvista7208
@shatteringvista7208 3 ай бұрын
It already exist Firefox based for XP like new moon and old mypal but it's terrible slow at loading KZbin page, new mypal 68 is better but compatibility other pages start to not work anymore
@thatoneguythatlikesship
@thatoneguythatlikesship 3 ай бұрын
Are you stupid?
@thenico28
@thenico28 3 ай бұрын
Cry
@thatoneguythatlikesship
@thatoneguythatlikesship 3 ай бұрын
Womp womp
@FFlynn
@FFlynn 3 ай бұрын
I installed this browser on Windows XP! This is awesome! Modern websites, KZbin, Discord with Voice Chat etc. All it's working!
@Motion6000
@Motion6000 3 ай бұрын
I've started using my old Dell Optiplex GX620 that runs Windows XP with Pentium D inside, a browser I found was K-Meleon which is good but Superium is just in another level. K-Meleon didn't even load KZbin for me but Superium did and I am very happy. Hopefully I can live forever with Windows XP man. Thanks for helping me out!
@EvilTurkeySlices
@EvilTurkeySlices 3 ай бұрын
I use MyPal, which is Firefox 68 based, can be a bit finicky though. May have to give this a try on my Optiplex GX270 I just got.
@60fpslocked
@60fpslocked 3 ай бұрын
This is great. Sometimes we do need to browse when in XP, like installing new drivers, that VC++ runtime, etc. when installing a game or two. However, I wouldn't suggest regular browsing on XP or even 7 for that matter. The best option is to have a dual boot setup, with a common disk partition (NTFS) accessible from both Linux and XP/ 7. The Linux could be in a different SSD, 128 GB ones are pretty cheap these days (sometimes even cheaper than a 64 GB pen drive). Then do all browsing/ network activity on that Linux which is up to date, yank the LAN cable every time booting into Windows. This simple setup makes it the most secure retro PC that can also be used regularly.
@Funnyperson-jz3ut
@Funnyperson-jz3ut 3 ай бұрын
And I was over here trying to install Chrome 49 my Inspiron 8200. This is awesome!
@ballinn0430
@ballinn0430 2 ай бұрын
So great! This is almost perfect, the only I wish to do is skin it to look like older browsers.
@MUSiCK9
@MUSiCK9 3 ай бұрын
I often use Supermium as a secondary browser and it's been really stable, pretty much no flaws with it.
@tendosingh5682
@tendosingh5682 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for reminding me to check on this. When I first heard of it it was now in early stages.
@kenzlevrai
@kenzlevrai 3 ай бұрын
just started to watch actively your videos, thank you man
@ukcbtv
@ukcbtv 3 ай бұрын
Working sweet on Win 8.1 - will roll it out on a Vista laptop soon too 👍
@jimdayton8837
@jimdayton8837 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! Been waiting on a modern version of Chrome to be made available for XP. This and MyPal browser are quite impressive achievements!
@elrontur
@elrontur 3 ай бұрын
This is pretty impressive! I'm currently running an older Firefox version (48.0.2 or 52.4.0 ESR) and Mypal 68 on my Windows XP machine and the latter browser can do 720p KZbin videos in the upper limit of things. Though having an even more up to date browser on it would be lovely...
@Koopai386
@Koopai386 3 ай бұрын
Nice work on your videos! Keep it up! I'd really like a new video about the 5$ 98 pc
@Neqwen
@Neqwen 3 ай бұрын
I KNEW YOU WOULD MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS BROWSER
@GreenDudeHC
@GreenDudeHC 3 ай бұрын
Next time I suggest right clicking the video and enabling Stats for Nerds as a more reliable way of seeing dropped frames.
@Sanya4561
@Sanya4561 3 ай бұрын
I`m using this browser on Windows 10 and it`s awesome! :D Thanks MJD to introduced it. :D
@PainweedingPills
@PainweedingPills 3 ай бұрын
You know you're truly old when you remember when 720 was considered HD back then.
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM 3 ай бұрын
Maybe you should try a project called Invidious where it's basically an alternative frontend to youtube and potentially runs it better than stock youtube would.
@jcxtra
@jcxtra 3 ай бұрын
Definitely agree! Stock youtube visibly chugs in firefox for me now no matter what I do (enable ublock/disable etc) like a webpage rendering from the 90s. Love Invidious, so clean tidy and customisable (you can make it very distraction free!)
@weegeenumberone2
@weegeenumberone2 3 ай бұрын
​@@jcxtraIt is likely intentional. Run YT on Chrome or Edge, if it runs fine then it is intentional
@DavidWonn
@DavidWonn 3 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%. It breathes life into my old iPad that ran out of space and is unable to download a current iOS to use the app anymore.
@opfax163
@opfax163 3 ай бұрын
is it safe ?
@cosmicallyspeaking871
@cosmicallyspeaking871 3 ай бұрын
🧡A lot of people in Bharat still use XP & 7 for their daily drive with no major issues. Such trusty operating systems that are not longer supported with updates which is sad. I have since moved on to Linux distros but I have relatives, friends who use older windows. They are mostly using Opera browser, which works great. As well as Firefox with ESR. But we don't know when these companies will pull the plug & stop developing them. So I will definitely recommend Supermium when everything else fails. Thank you so much for being such a leader & trooper in helping people who can't afford expensive latest machines.💛
@ilyasclicks
@ilyasclicks 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this solution! I have an old pc running winxp in school that we use everyday as a station with Google form to add new students. And some functions are not working properly in forms, because of the old browser
@c-LAW
@c-LAW 3 ай бұрын
Thumbnail is a great hook.
@wdd6864
@wdd6864 3 ай бұрын
Great Video, you need to install the video driver for the best test
@Rainquack
@Rainquack 3 ай бұрын
I'd be curious which codecs it tries to decode, and always waited for you to display the stats. Maybe you'd have to block VP9, so it doesnt try to software decode - but I feel AVC also wouldn't have hardware acceleration, on hardware that old, wouldn't be as big of a processor load tho.
@TheBig451
@TheBig451 3 ай бұрын
I just built an XP rig (X2 4400+ at 2.9GHz, 4GB DDR2-1000, 9800GTX+, etc) and I was looking for something EXACTLY like this. Thanks for the heads up!
@radekt.7843
@radekt.7843 3 ай бұрын
Wow, tysm.. this is what my 20yo thinkbook T43 needed
@bnsyphotography2104
@bnsyphotography2104 3 ай бұрын
Aye a video uploaded on my 24th birthday. Nice. And it's windows xp related.
@rickykimbrough7112
@rickykimbrough7112 3 ай бұрын
if i remember correctly u didnt have video crd drivers installed? that might help
@yoshibros1111
@yoshibros1111 3 ай бұрын
Just a thing I've noticed, some older systems can handle 720p and 1080p videos just fine when they are 25 or 30FPS. 60FPS makes the playback choppy and inconsistent as seen in the video. There are some extensions that can force 30FPS playback on higher resolutions, and installing one of them (or simply not watching 60FPS videos) will significantly improve the playback experience.
@TodokuTH
@TodokuTH 3 ай бұрын
I used it on my old Windows 8.1 dualboot OS :D
@solanumtuberosa
@solanumtuberosa 3 ай бұрын
For 8.1 you can also use thorium
@AntiGrieferGames
@AntiGrieferGames 3 ай бұрын
​​@@solanumtuberosa Thorium isn't Good anymore.
@m.projects
@m.projects 3 ай бұрын
@@AntiGrieferGamesIt is, at least to me. Why are you saying that?
@artexjay
@artexjay 3 ай бұрын
​@@solanumtuberosa stop promoting trashware
@artexjay
@artexjay 3 ай бұрын
@@m.projects dev was caught bundling furry porn and some even would say pedo hentai pics in the browser.
@fbelard
@fbelard 3 ай бұрын
Is this vp9 or avc? Vp9 makes even recent machines struggle if they don't have hardware decoding. I install x264ify every time I use a friend's older windows computer. (Not a problem on macs, Safari does that automatically.)
@tralhasdojean
@tralhasdojean 3 ай бұрын
Mindblowing! 🤯 Any similar project dedicated to ressurect internet browsing on old Android versions?
@NoenD_io
@NoenD_io 3 ай бұрын
Just what i needed
@tyreevongsalysaltaccount
@tyreevongsalysaltaccount Ай бұрын
If you open the archive on 7-Zip and you did not see the mini installer to extract on 7-Zip, then you can extract the setup file by using 7-Zip by clicking "Extract files" and then select a location that you want to extract your files to on your desktop. Once done in your selected location on your desktop you picked when you extracted your files, click on the "Supermium" folder and then open the Supermium browser from there in the "Supermium" folder. Hope this helps! :)
@jamietech283
@jamietech283 3 ай бұрын
Using it right now on Windows Vista to right this comment, pretty cool project that works without the extended kernel.
@roblox123admet
@roblox123admet 3 ай бұрын
Dude, i really miss old windows. I hope you see this comment ❤
@technoWZ5598
@technoWZ5598 3 ай бұрын
I have to check out this browser!
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 16 күн бұрын
Nice! I need a working browser for my xp vm and this seems perfect. Will make it a lot easier to get some of the thing I need onto it from directly inside the vm instead of having to constantly go back and forth between the host machine and the xp vm to drop files into it.
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 3 ай бұрын
Sound great! Is it? How safe would using XP with a firewall added additionally to the router's NAT and this browser be?
@fujiwaranovari
@fujiwaranovari 3 ай бұрын
I always wanted a project like this for 32 bit versions of iOS, to make use of some first gen iPads I had lying around, at least as a KZbin player
@ZERICO2005
@ZERICO2005 3 ай бұрын
A few years ago (circa 2020) I was able to get an 8K video to play off of KZbin on a 32bit Windows Vista laptop. While it only played at a frame per 100 seconds, it was interesting to see how well Chrome v45 handles the modern web. Unfortunately, KZbin doesn’t support VP9 for 8K videos anymore, so the laptop is only able to play videos up to 4K.
@GigAHerZ64
@GigAHerZ64 3 ай бұрын
There are chrome extensions to force different video codecs on KZbin. You could try them. I made my atom-based netbooks play videos pretty decently.
@JacobJohnson-lh4gx
@JacobJohnson-lh4gx 3 ай бұрын
H264ify still works for me, what extension and browser are you using? I've checked a couple of browsers and none of them works properly for my MSI Wind Netbook
@pcgamingeconomico3057
@pcgamingeconomico3057 3 ай бұрын
wow! thanks a lot for this.
@erdemgundogdu6332
@erdemgundogdu6332 3 ай бұрын
new Michael MJD let's gaur
@telekeet
@telekeet 3 ай бұрын
new Michael MJD let's your
@fightingtable
@fightingtable 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos so much
@Delta225
@Delta225 3 ай бұрын
How does invidious run? I'm curious since it's much more lightweight.
@heart_locket2
@heart_locket2 3 ай бұрын
runs good
@ArthurTheEpicGuy
@ArthurTheEpicGuy 3 ай бұрын
This is amazing i can watch this video on Windows Vista now.
@GYTCommnts
@GYTCommnts 3 ай бұрын
This is Amazing!
@SimonVasquez
@SimonVasquez 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if the chrome experiments page would work in here. Its a google page with a bunch of web graphics art and, well, experiments
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