Nikon D7100 vs Nikon D600

[@SuperSaf]

Hey sorry for the confusion I actually meant "Wide Viewing Angle" LCD screen! It is not a swivel out screen like the D5200

[@SuperSaf]

Thank you for watching, that's an excellent idea, the D7100 would be great as a second body

[@SuperSaf]

Hey sorry I actually meant "Wide Viewing Angle" LCD screen! It is not a swivel out screen like the D5200

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching and the feedback buddy :-) All the best

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching, glad it helped :-)

[@SuperSaf]

i also do events and landscapes etc.. And especially when I am using a wide lens, something like the 14-24mm, I want 14mm wide rather than a DX crop which will roughly be 21mm equivalent. But yes it obviously varies from person to person.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching, glad it was useful :-)

[@SuperSaf]

Hi Phil, I based my opinion on the specs and experience with DX and FX bodies but did mention in the video that for a true comparison they would have to be seen side by side.

[@SuperSaf]

yes it really does depend on preference. A sports photographer commented before saying how the extra 1.3 crop would give them almost double the focal length at 15MP as well as 7fps which was ideal for sports photography.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks mate, appreciate the support :-) Tbh the quality of the lens is what really determines the quality of the picture, if you use an average lens with a great body the picture will not be as good a great lens with an average body. The FX will perform better in low light and will give you the true focal length of the lens, but it won't have any significant advantage on the quality of the image. Hope that helps

[@SuperSaf]

Hey thanks for the feedback, appreciated :-) Personally I am not a fan of kit lenses, i would go for body only and stick with the ones you have for now then invest in some nice FX lenses when you have the cash. I mean even with the DX lenses you will still be getting shots at roughly 15megapixels, which is usually more than enough and will still be able to shoot full 1080p video too.

[@SuperSaf]

Nikon just issues a press release today, have a search on their website. I think they have suggested a solution or you can take it to the nearest Nikon service center.

[@SuperSaf]

Well if you have some FX lenses they should work a treat with the D600. And any DX lenses you have should still work on the D600 (it will just use the 1.5x DX crop) so the images will be around 15 megapixels rather than the full 24.3.

[@SuperSaf]

It's useful for video, because you can still get full 1080p in crop mode (in essence giving you more zoom from your lens)

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks Mark, what is the difference in euros between the D7100 and D600? If it's as little as here in the UK (just £300-350) then I think full-frame is definitely the way to go.

[@SuperSaf]

Yes it's always best to wait a little while for the issues to be ironed out and also for the price to drop, all the best

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks Paul, really glad it was helpful and appreciate the feedback. All the best mate :-)

[@SuperSaf]

Very good points there

[@SuperSaf]

Me too, good choice

[@SuperSaf]

If you are new to photography then my advice would be to go for the D7100 after a few months (when the price is more reasonable) and spend the money saved on some nice lenses. All the best

[@SuperSaf]

Yes definitely, it does come down to the sort of photography you do

[@LaurStig]

Just ordered D600. - Full-frame sensors offer a 1.2 to 1.4 stop advantage in noise. This means that a FF ISO 250 image has about the same noise as a crop ISO 100 image. - Full-frame sensors offer better detail at any given f-stop due to lower diffraction effects. This improves image detail, color detail, and contrast. - The feature that full-frame provides is better images...plain and simple.

[@SuperSaf]

I agree that a DX is fine for most situations. But considering the small price difference right now, I personally think you may as well go for the full-frame.

[@Pozi_Drive]

waste of money.

[@kazcnepj]

I bought the D7100 and am very happy with it. The viewfinder is nice and bright. The 51 point AF is very fast and accurate, 1.3 crop mode is more useful than I thought. Brings up the fps to 7 and gives me 1080p 60i video. All the images coming from this camera are super sharp with nice dynamic range. The body is very well built and the grip is nice and sticky. I was looking at the D600 [price didn't matter to me] and I was very discouraged by all the negative talk of oil & dust.

[@SuperSaf]

Hey, that's not my channel. The guy has been stealing my videos. Have reported it and looks like KZbin have blocked the channel now. Thank you so much for letting me know.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks for watching :-)

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks. DX lenses will work on the D600, you will just get a 1.5x crop. So instead of 24.1mp, you will get around 16mp images with DX lenses. Hope that helps

[@hrvojekant9415]

in FX mode 24.3 Mp...inDX mode only 10.5 Mp

[@buzzedlunne6668]

Reviews should be like this.. well done supersaftv

[@Neukita1]

I have the same setup (D7000,nikor 10-24,tamron 17-50 and 70-200 2.8). I recently bought D600. The good news is all lenses will work on the D600 in crop, except for the 70-200 which will work full frame! The reduced noise is also definitely impressive! BAD NEWS ARE, the autofocus will get on your nerves for a while. The 39 af points are in the middle of the screen. Also, each focus point is half size of D7000, making it way harded to find contrast and therefore to focus.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks buddy, appreciate the feedback :-)

[@markuslh]

Well, if I understood it correctly you also lose pixels in crop mode since a smaller part of the sensor is used, so lower resolution as well. Except for more zoom with 1080p like SuperSaf pointed out, I still don't see the sense in using it

[@Maverick62AB]

thanks! Currently Using a Red Nikon D3200 with 4 Lenses (18-55mm DX, 55-300mm DX, 55mm F1.2 Prime & 500mm F8 Prime) and you have Given me the Information i need for the Next Body, thanks you much! D600 here i come!

[@SuperSaf]

Is that so? Was not aware of that, that is a but of a shame

[@tommasofrisone]

I've recently been on very cold environment with my d3000 and had some problems related to that.. i think one important part of reviewing a camera's spec that you didn't consider here is the environmental sealing..

[@QuadroRC]

FX = full size sensor and DX = Cropped sensor(1.5 factor). Any lens with F mount will fit both Hope this help

[@MrPedrofoto]

Decided to go for the D7100 and use the money I saved to add to the kitty for a prime lens. After all, the glass makes the greater difference. Am thrilled with the camera and the lens and have just finished my first photo shoot with the combination. Results were terrific. Was shooting macro images of antique Irish salmon flies for magazine and book. The video capability will be tested out the next time. Happy Snappin.

[@youknowitstrue3403]

I've seen many ISO test comparisons between the D600 & D7000 and the D7000 wasn't too far behind. My question to you is how can you know what the D7100's ISO performance is like without actually having a copy to compare side by side.

[@chazlyle41]

Your point is valid about it being preference but for just slightly more money one can get the Full Frame Sensor. It really boils down to, do I want a pro sensor with less features or a consumer sensor with more features. The only qualm I have with that standpoint is that if you really are "going pro" with your photography you had better be able to afford glass, and I would assume, someday, a better body than the D600. So I side with either getting the D7100 and enjoying a DX or a higher up FX.

[@SuperSaf]

Lol not necessarily, but obviously depends on each individuals preference

[@DTravisNorth]

From a sports perspective, it's pretty useful. Nevermind the burst rate, which you already mentioned. But it also means that your focusing points very nearly span the entire frame, with the center fifteen as cross-type focal points. What this really means is that your action is very easy to capture. Another point is that it gives you a nice buffer in the viewfinder to help you set up the shot. When the person runs out of frame, you can still see them in the viewfinder.

[@Elena0075]

I just got my d600 and absolutely love it! No more dx for me. If the sensor gets dirty, clean it! Any one that's ever done it knows it's easy. Crop factor moved me toward fx because I primarily do portrait photography.

[@markuslh]

Except for the higher burst rate, isn't the Crop mode completely useless since I can do the same crop in post?

[@Jase989]

I have to comment lenses you will use with each type of camera. If you do go for the full frame sensor you will also want to buy professional glass to go with it. To buy one of these Pro 2.8/f lens can cost more that the camera body. This mean to have a collection of different Pro lenses is something very important to consider. You can get a full set Nikon DX lens for the price of one Nikon 70-200mm 2.8/f VRII lens.

[@cc00nneerr]

Not sure if you are aware, but the d600 has had several issues with oil spots on the screen that nikon is neglecting to fix!

[@esquisseweivod]

at 5:00 it's not true the D7100 has better features because its a newer camera. Nikon could put the same features in the D600 but did not because the D800 would not get any advantages above the D600.

[@tnasty357]

Hey what would u go with just for video

[@johndoerubytosa]

just got my D7100 today to complement my D700. instead of paying $2400 for a D600 with the kit lens, I was able to get my d7100 with a sigma 70-200 f2.8 OS..one huge advantage of owning a DX format camera is that my 70-200 will be 105-300mm f2.8. Obviously FX will have far superior low light performance but if you're a hobbyist who does not make a living out of photography, get the D7100 and buy good lenses. Future-proofing wise owning a good glass definitely help you in the long run.

[@Gadgetbig]

Just got my d7100 today.. Very pleased with it

[@SuperSaf]

Yes I did mention that in the video, amazing feature

[@carpandean]

@1:45 - nitpicky detail, but the D600's FF sensor is not ~50% bigger. The D7100's sensor is a little less than 50% (~43%) of the size of the D600's, but that's not the same thing. At 864mm^2, a FF sensor is 134% larger (i.e., it is 2.34x as big) than the APS-C 370mm^2 sensor (even worse if you consider Canon's 329mm^2 APS-C sensor.) APS-C is actually much closer in size to FT (Four Thirds) than to FF. Note: I'm not a sensor snob, as I've gone mostly to m4/3 (with a little APS-H, too.)

[@Taraandra]

I have a DX lens that I occasionally use on my D800. Well--- I'd call it more than a little vignetting. But I go ahead and set it for the DX crop so I get a clean shot. Yes it works. But if you have any intention of going full frame, buy FX lenses. They will also work on DX cameras and you'll be all set when you buy the full frame. Just be sure to figure 1.5 crop factor with FX lenses: a 50mm lens is like at 75 mm lens on a Nikon full frame, etc.

[@SuperSaf]

Thanks Jamie, glad it was helpful :-)

[@Neukita1]

Im thinking of the exact same thing. I actually have a D600 (got it brand spanking new at BH in NYC for $2000 with a 24-85, a monopod, extra batterym, 32gb card and a small caring bag... sweet deal!), and i have a D7000 as a backup. Im thinking of selling the D7000 to get the 7100. Getting a 1.3 crop at 18mp with no low pass filter and 7fps with virtualy full coverage AF system seems awesome for daylight sports!

[@cosmonott1]

Hey Saf, great comparison. At 5:21 you state that both the D600 & D7100 have vari-angle LCD monitors (ie. tilty-swivelly screens). Error, no?

[@timdawg747]

You did a good job explaining the features...

[@crazybabysittertwin]

I'm an amateur photog who's gotten some pro work here & there, & I've been shooting with a d70 for about 8-9 years. It's great quality shots, & a tough, durable camera. It's a dinosaur though & dying a slow death. I'm looking to upgrade by April. From a financial standpoint, is it worth it to go for the d600 over the d7100 (for the FX quality) when I'll have to get all new lenses, too? Interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

[@fatdoi003]

for the price of a D800, i can get a D600 and D7100 one for landscape/portrait and the other sport/video, a good 2nd body with same handling and interface. also when using FX lenses can choose between 1x 1.5x and 2x crop, lots of variations to play with

[@cfwong1d300s]

It's a simple question afterall！you have to understand the position and the purpose of these two dslr. D7100 is very suitable for sports photography and macro photography, as the crop options are great to do so. If you have a 300mm f4 lens, you are going to have nearly 600mm f4 without losing image quality and decrease the f-stop like using tele converter. And how much is a 600 f4? 15megapixel still awsome !

[@Taraandra]

They will "work". But you will be getting the 1.5 crop and corresponding reduction in resolution. There is also - at least at my favorite camera store here - the possibility of trading in those DX lenses while buying something more expensive. They will often give you a better trade in price than you expected if by doing so they can persuade you to buy a more expensive item. Well worth a try!

[@AllorNone23]

So much more informative and useful than Digital Rev's review. Great job!

[@VishnuRajendranAmboo]

Personally on pricing and feature and practicality all depends on the user, for me i shoot mainly corporate event and commercial related photography and have been using D7000 for both photo and video. Great camera, now with technology advancing on low light performances smaller sensors seems to be able to match full frame sensors one generation behind. So is it worth getting that full frame/pro camera, probably not. Its like comparing a D800 & HD40, very marginal different in the end.

[@razrv3lc]

So according to this video, the only advantage the D600 has over the D7100 is the FX sensor and better low-light performance? Why would you buy the D600? It has the dust and oil on the sensor issue too...

[@mrohrer10]

I'm in a very similar position. I use a D3100 for all my shooting and feel that I am also outgrowing the camera as well. Personally the best piece of gear I have is a Tamron 60mm F2 Macro lens which I use for portraits. 10-24 is pretty wide. I've found that when I shoot with my other lens (the standard 18-55) I'm usually right around 35-40mm for group photos. A prime 35mm dx lens would be nice. As for DX or FX in my opinion FX isn't worth the extra cost. I'm gonna go with the D7100.

[@mikeraspa7644]

I'm looking to upgrade this summer from my D90, and I've been back and forth between the D600 and the D7100. I'm currently in school for photography but also work as a photographer shooting sports, different plays and starting to get into concerts. Was wondering your insite of what to choose. Also I've heard a lot about oil spots with the D600, would you happen to know anything about that?

[@Butterkeks551]

What do you think how much the D7100 will cost in September? I bought the D5100 last year to start with DSLR photography and I want to buy a better DSLR this year, but still keep my lenses I bought for the DX sensor size.

[@shadow479]

Well I guess the choice between these two cameras will depend on what kind of photography are you going to do? For nature, action, sports, and general the D7100 is a great and better choice...also you save money for lenses.

[@SuperSaf]

Not 100% sure about that mate

[@samuelpupella2819]

How could I improve the low-lighting problem with the d7100.what is the cheapest way???

[@shropshire21]

While I would like to move to a FX body from my D7000 I am not sure if the D600 would be a good enough upgrade for me. Now if the D600 had the D7100 features : 51 AF points and faster FPS I would purchase the camera.

[@Irish_Mike_NYC]

What about the dust spots & oil splatter in the D600?

[@colblimp]

That's an object lesson in why you should always buy great glass. Before upgrading from DX, I made sure I had the FX glass in my grubby little hands for when I made the leap!

[@antonioabad4351]

very well explained! given the advantages of an FX, the D600 is surely the way to go to upgrade my D300. please tell me if it will be a gamble to buy the D600 at this time given the dust/oil problem complaints appearing on several nikon forums. thank you.

[@bradralph7481]

just wondering does the 7100 take good low light in concerts?

[@samuelpupella2819]

How to improve the low lighting problem???

[@PhotographsbyDavid]

I shot an engagement shoot with my D7000 with of course prime lens, and the photos were tack shape, and AWB was dead on. I have a d600 body too, and the AWB had to be customized plus 1, due to green cast. I am trading p to the D7100, and hope for more wonders??

[@MartinNY78]

Hi, good video. If you already own Dx lenses there is no point of getting D600, correct? Simply it won't work on FX.

[@NitroZakis]

No, you can't. Well, basically you can shoot 1080p in DX, but the quality is suitable only for downscaling it to 720p. I was hoping to shoot video in DX sometimes, but you can zoom (crop) your 1080p FX (in FCP for example) and get a comparable result. Now I want to see the clean HDMI out with external recorder in both modes.

[@razrv3lc]

I've been using an Olympus E-520 for the past four years! You aren't alone! :) You sound like you're in the same predicament as I am. I think the best bet would be the D7100 or D5200. Both of those are good, I think!

[@Cthorlhu]

but if its a difference of a slightly cheaper camera with more features with a pro lens or just a camera (albeit a very nice one), I'd take the first option. I do see the advantages though of full frame in regards to noise at high iso but its really the only advantage between these two cameras (maybe...). if I were to go full frame it would be to the d800 to really get more. I can't wait until full reviews come out. I really am excited for this new bit of kit as I'm in the process of upgrading.

[@JonasHerbertson]

Thank you!! Think will go for the D7100 because of the video-features!

[@SOLIE6226]

HOW do the 2 Compare in Body seals and Durability of the bodies ?

[@raymonalbear4775]

gr8 comparison :) i was wondering if there is a comparison between the d7100 and the 5D Mark II ??

[@balnanj]

hey buddy, interesting and informative video but i would like to know, i am not a serious photographer but how long do you think before DX cameras become obsolete..

[@W.i.l.l._Nguyen]

I think of you are more into studio settings photography, you would go more for the D600

[@Astaghfirullah-10]

I need a professional opinion, i own now a D5100 and i think it is time for me to upgrade . should i go with the D600 or the new D7100 ??

[@theonetheonlydeganthevegan4392]

I like the D7100 A LOT, but the Dx sensor is really confusing me I mean, will I not be able to take pictures big as the D600 or 800?

[@berto1999]

The Nikon D610 and the Nikon D7100 have nearly the same number of pixels. You can take large photos with both cameras, but: in low light conditions, with the D7100 you'll use more iso(in any case the D710 is fantastic up to 1500 ISO. The D610 is great up to ISO 3000!!! Much better than the Canon 5DmkIII). The D610 has a better dynamic range. Important: the Nikon D7100 offers more depth of field for macro shooting, because the sensor is DX(same number of pixels as the Nikon D610, but less millimeters). For portraits, Architecture and landscapes: D610. For nature and macro: D7100! The Nikon D800? The Nikon D800 is unmatched on this planet, it is the best camera in the world....especially if you want gigantic huge photos and you don't want use a destructive interpolation.

[@CJTakGaming]

I think having a full frame sensor does have a big difference. I would really love to upgrade from my very old Canon EOS Kiss X since it has already been 6-7 years now. But I am also considering some mirror less cameras which are currently in the market but I also want to wait for what's gonna come in winter 2013-2014.

[@69DrGreenthumb]

I've been waiting for this as an appropriate upgrade from my D90 I'll wait a little longer after release to ensure no issues like with the D600 (oil/dust) - but looks like a great camera.Its A Hard Choice Between The D600 And The D7100

[@colblimp]

Buy a used D700 - 51 AF points and 8FPS if you buy the grip and EN-EL4 battery. I use mine for pro work and it's simply awesome!

[@lolsa123]

so what would you surguest of geting? i have used an olympus e-500 for the last 6~ years and am looking for a good improvement since it is greatly out of date thiese days. so what would you say i should get as an hobbyist photograph since i dont have any dx/fx lenses to start with?

[@Maverick62AB]

If I may Be so bold, you can use the Crop Frame of the D600 for your DX Lenses, plus Full Frame non-AF Lenses can be had for very Reasonable Prices on ebay, if it were me, i would go full frame because this is a Passion of mine, if you're looking to Just "point-and-shoot" there is no need to Dump lots into new lenses or a Full frame Body, However if you want to take Pictures of the Stars or have Long Night Exposures, you'll do best to go Full Frame, that's just my $.02

[@petarmaksimovic4048]

Is this a review or sensor size school?

[@ayseyildirim58]

Hi.Which one would you prefer for shooting oil paintings to be printed out in large size?And which lens?Thanks.

[@MyLifeWonderful]

Good review. Thank you. I've got the D600 but am thinking about a D7100 when the price comes down as a second body.

[@ctprocess]

Your right, unless you’re taking, say pro modeling photos, an intermediate camera will do just fine. Professional pictures like in modeling, deal with advance lighting and exposure, which require higher end pro cameras.

[@WilliamdiazUK]

Hi Saf, I’ve upgraded from the D5200 to the D7100 but unfortunately the first unit I received came with a few oil spots on the sensor. Last week I received a replacement and realized that there oil spots on the replacement as well. Would you recommend sending it back or buying the Sensor cleaning kit and give it a shot? I’d really appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks in advance!

[@DanleHS]

I think both camera are very good ones and the choice of one them would depende on the kind of photography, full-frame is a really good feature but many features of the d7100 make it competitive, especially on tele-photography.

[@Neukita1]

depends on what you shoot. I have the D7000 and D600. D600 is great in low light as you can bump iso at 3200 with virtually no noise! The desadvantage is that the AF system sucks! It covers very little of the screen. Also, keep in mind you will need to invest on good quality full frame lenses if you want to take full advantage of the sensors potential. If u shoots alot of indoors or low light stuff, go for D600.

[@swrilgroove]

Thnxs for the features & specs explanation for both cameras !, both are great deal of DSLR Csmera but I'll go with D7100 !

[@danidankha]

I just preorder d7100 body. Should I get Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM Or afs 35 mm 1.8 g