Worse Than Rolling Back ODOMETERS! There Is ZERO Justification For SuperKilometerFilter!

[@trwsandford]

When I was a kid I had a Triumph Spitfire 1500, a 1978 if memory serves, before I had a license to drive it. I would unscrew the cable from the back of the speedometer and take it for a spin pretty often when the parental units were not home. Of course my motivation was significantly different. Good times.

[@MikeKayK]

Now THIS is a reason I can understand 🤣

[@stang10189]

We did the same thing with our snowmobiles as kids. We weren't supposed to ride them when they weren't home. Obviously, as a 10-11 year old kid, we didn't know what we were doing other than hiding it from our parents.

[@The1sKa]

Seems like even kids born in the 70s were treated like spoiled rats! Just like todays kids! Bunch of wimps

[@Vipurs]

Ok boomer

[@mikemuzzell5167]

This is me too lol. Different vehicle tho. Dodge van. Party 🎉

[@breakupgoogle]

man if that company gets hacked and dropped the customer list would be mayhem

[@markm0000]

It would be a damn shame if that list got leaked on the open web. Then Ferrari gets a hold of it.

[@SilentRacer911]

Ferrari would probably just limit the warranties more than they already do but it would be a PR nightmare nonetheless. I am sure bigger names have other people buy them for that reason

[@toprandomvideos2123]

@@SilentRacer911 They have literally tried to reclaim peoples Ferraris for doing things to them that they didn't approve. I wouldnt underestimate their response especially if it damages their PR directly.

[@BigDavoNorriwong]

@@toprandomvideos2123 That is why no one should buy a new Ferrari. Shitbag company

[@glass1258]

I support this 100%

[@BridgerCrusan]

Once had an S560 come in from wholesale with 18,000 ish miles on the odometer. Once hooked up to the scanner the real milage was pulled up at 380,000+ miles. One way we verified milage was the number of ignition cycles and service history.

[@1982MCI]

Service history is not a reliable indicator because you’re dependent upon someone taking the vehicle to a garage or service center that records vehicle mileage along with the service work done. Ignition cycles would be a stronger, more accurate test but, can the vehicles computer have the ignition cycles cleared or not?

[@SuperSpeederCarl]

Ignition cycles is kind of a joke if you think about it I can start my car 100 times a day but if it never leaves the driveway it won’t have mileage but it will be worn out

[@alexiocatan5602]

What scanner is this called??

[@alexiocatan5602]

What kind of scanner provides real mileage sir?

[@jaxturner7288]

S560 with almost 400k? Trying to pass as and showing 18,000? Yeah ok. Cool story bro 👌

[@jabach7413]

This should be an automatic title branding if you’ve used one of these. They should be as illegal and punishable as an odometer rollback.

[@REALBanannaman]

When you get your vehicle inspected, the OBD check should see if tampering has been involved with the ecu, and then it will recommend the title to be branded.

[@berryreading4809]

I'm not sure which state or county you reside in but where I'm located you would either have to scan it yourself or hire someone to do a near forensic OBD scan to try and catch that kind of of data, especially if it had been "returned to stock"... My state's inspections are a joke 🙄 which I *truly* appreciate, I'd rather have that added responsibility then allow them more power 😁👍

[@Anonymous-zi5wr]

@@REALBanannaman Would this come up in an OBD check? As I understand it currently, it won't.

[@Anonymous-zi5wr]

@@berryreading4809 "a near forensic OBD scan" Is that true? Bosch has an OBD that scans several ecus and outputs mileage. If the mileages don't compare, something is fishy.

[@JimmyJinIA]

Thanks, Rob. You are doing a service to all interested parties that may someday want to own or buy one of these cars.

[@JohnDoe-pz5fl]

Note to self, buy new

[@earlmoorhead5555]

As a mechanic who worked for a California speedometer shop repair I was aware that it’s a federal law that this comes with a 10 year sentence for doing this ? I can’t believe this is out there 🤔

[@austinthrowsstuff]

Yeah the feds were busting the rolling coal diesel guys last year. I thought you would get screwed if you sold even 1. Maybe they are catching people and its just the feds. Its almost too stupid

[@cHyrr1]

@@austinthrowsstuff Can you elaborate? Is it illgal to make the cars smoke like this whats called rolling coal? or is it some kind of name of a group thats doing these things as rolling back

[@gibshredcamel]

@@cHyrr1 rolling coal is the process of making your truck billow black smoke by means of altering fuel mapping and emission controls in the car. The feds decided it violated the clean air act

[@abes3925]

@@cHyrr1 diesel trucks have a lot of emission filters and roll and coal guys remove them and remap the engine to inject more fuel and all that extra unburnt fuel comes out the exhaust as black smoke

[@austinthrowsstuff]

@@cHyrr1 It was just a group of businesses who were selling engine tunes. They were saying it was for offroad use also. Its still fairly common but the feds did track down and charge tons of people last year. Including customers. Its odd how they enforce things halfway

[@austinthrowsstuff]

I knew a guy who drove a crazy Ferrari for special occasions for like 10 years and I saw him sell it with 350 miles. It was very clean and he didn’t drive it a lot but he for sure was doing something sketchy. It sold for more than he paid too

[@sgtjohn4321]

So he didn’t drive it a lot and it only had 350 miles and your wondering why the price sold for so much? Dude your a clown he wasn’t doing anything sketchy you just said he barely drove the thing lol.

[@gottahaveawawa7494]

@@sgtjohn4321 HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. GOT EM

[@gottahaveawawa7494]

people drive those cars very close to where they live not for road trips

[@MrDrifterdevin]

Must have used it for drag racing, that 2.5 trips down the dragstrip every week for 10 years ... lol yeah that sounds odd

[@austinthrowsstuff]

@@sgtjohn4321 Im saying ive seen him put more than 350 on it. He would drive it for a whole weekend sometimes. I only saw some of the times too. I think he would keep it perfect and just put a few thousand on it. Then it was free to own and actually use. Clearly there are many cars with these devices though

[@claycrawford9009]

I have always wondered how so many hyper cars that I have seen on rally’s year after year have crazy low miles. Really sad and very deceiving…..

[@dugly66]

You know what is just as bad as faking odometer readings. Having a flood car and saying its perfect, nothing wrong with it. If it was in water its a flood car.

[@stang10189]

That might evan be worse.

[@jasonguessedit]

I took in cars at a lot for resale.... some were very questionable but I was told to clean them up and get the keys to finance

[@FastlifeTodd]

A lot of cars have the mileage burned into the ECU . I can look at odometer readings via a technician grade scan tool on a large amount of cars.

[@berryreading4809]

Then as you know with the proper scan tool and software most ECUs can be completely "wiped" or swapped and reprogrammed for VIN, mileage, and all other necessary details... Although some brands are much more difficult than others to the point that I'm not sure how big the supply/demand would be for this theoretical market... I'd say it's probably most common at the lowest end and the highest end of the scale for cost vs. reward... Low end being 8+ year old domestic vehicles, high end being high value European/exotics... Just my guess anyway 🤷‍♂️

[@louisr5005]

can't be burned in, it was affectively never recording

[@jryoung5460]

I bought an 04 Silverado in 19 with 113k miles. Frame, rockers, drove ok etc all appeared super solid. The seat and steering wheel should've been dead giveaways it was high mileage as they were BEAT but everything else was ok enough to believe it was a lower mileage truck. Drove it 3 miles, check engine light, nothing but issues after that and all typically higher milage failures... Pulled the Carfax and it has 167k miles on it in 2013 for it's last check in. BBB did nothing, dealer hid behind the "True milage exempt"/10+ years old legality, state AG didnt respond to my emails. I pulled 3 car fax reports for other vehicles the dealer had and 2/3 were obvious rollbacks. It's a major problem

[@MikeKayK]

You bought a vehicle without checking its Carfax. That's literally the first step before you even go look at the car. Live and learn, eh?

[@SaraiGarage]

Share the name of the dealer and owner. Don't be nice when they screwed you over. I would blast their name everywhere I could.

[@MikeKayK]

@@SaraiGarage Not worth it, may come back to bite him if he pisses off the wrong person. Also there are times when even the seller doesn't know there is an issue. It's on you as the buyer to do your research.

[@jryoung5460]

@@MikeKayK Believe me, never making that mistake again. Always pulling the carfax.... I ended up making money on it bc of how cheap it was combined with the market appreciating...even disclosing I thought it was rolled back. I had all of the major problems sorted when I sold it. If someone who couldn't have done the work themselves bought it they would've been out thousands. Multiple other accusations of rollbacks have been popping up on the facebook/google reviews and the guy ignores those or comments that all vehicles he sells are true mileage exempt. The guy is a scum bag and knows exactly what he is doing IMO...

[@jryoung5460]

@@SaraiGarage I'd put them on blast but unfortunately the dealer lives less than a mile from me and drives by all the time. Not worth the headache...

[@MrInternFTL]

I wonder if the insurance company found out there was a mileage blocker an insurance company would refuse to pay out

[@stevevarholy2011]

If it were a claim based on the value of the vehicle - such as a total loss - they would in a heartbeat or at least refuse to pay anymore more than what they felt was the reduced value.

[@Kajacot]

They would probably value it's as true mileage unknown so similar to salvage rebuilt title cars. Probably would not void the insurance but your payout would be much smaller.

[@austinthrowsstuff]

I mean how would you know the value without it?

[@beauchamphuberville1355]

In the UK they would 100% refuse to pay out. On anything.

[@anyau]

in uk if anything is illegal or un declared on your car it is the same as have no insurance. america needs that

[@sdb195]

“ghost guns” are perfectly legal and there’s no reason to not own one. Other than that I agree that counterfeiting mileage shouldn’t happen.

[@Melanie16040]

Legal to own, not legal to sell to others iirc.

[@stang10189]

@Melanie16040 It depends on the state. Cali and Connecticut have state laws regulating them now, and stricter laws go into effect in July. For example, Cali currently requires you to apply for a serial number from the CDOJ. If the weapon is plastic, it must be on a piece of metal large enough to trigger a metal detector and be embedded perfectly. In July, all unfinished frames and receivers must be purchased through a licensed dealer and will require a background check. I am glad they didn't just ban them altogether. It still allows hobbyists to create their own weapons and tries to keep them out of the hands of criminals. Only issue: criminals don't buy their weapons legally anyway.

[@Dylang01]

@@stang10189 "Only issue: criminals don't buy their weapons legally anyway. " This argument against gun control is so stupid. Yeah, criminals break the law. THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS.

[@mentals555]

@@Dylang01 I'm having a really hard time seeing why that argument is stupid lol

[@glassjar7814]

@@Dylang01 wtf are you talking about lmao

[@bubblewhip382]

"It's like a Ghost Gun company getting shut down, because there is no legal reason to own something like that." Oh, Rob. Why did you have to do that? Now you just riled up all the gun people for no reason.

[@CCW1911]

Probably because he's not into guns but the mileage racket directly effects him, people could tell him why does anyone need a car that can exceed the speed limit there is no reason to sell them, makes just as much sense as his analogy. People don't do bad things for two reasons, 1 they believe it's morally wrong or 2 they fear the punishment. An answer to the mileage roll backs might be for car companies to put protection in the cars computers making it easy to know if one has been tampered with, there was a time when a cars vin was only in one or two places in response to increasing thefts now the vin is hidden in many places.

[@SaraiGarage]

When I was shopping for GTR's, I remember looking at a 2015 Regal Red Black Edition being sold by an Autonation dealer in Florida (summer 2020). It had all the tires replaced at 4,000 miles. I thought that was so odd. I passed because I assumed it lived a hard life and had been tracked heavily for tires needing to be replaced that early. A hefty carbon ceramic brake replacement of $10k was probably not too far in the future for that car either.... This video has me thinking I dodged a much bigger bullet than I originally thought. Edit: The car was very low miles. I think single-digit thousands if I remember correctly. Maybe 7,000ish.

[@berryreading4809]

Sounds like you made the right call... Mileage tampering or not, that particular car definitely seems to have had a very tough wear in cycle! 😳

[@MLProductions.1]

Ehh. I put on aftermarket rims on last my car and sold the OEM rims brand new with tires. Didn't think it I was gonna upgrade the R/T to a hellcat a year later. So I bought some used OEM rims with pretty low tread and traded it in that way. The car had 15k miles. You never know the story of that. My car was well maintained (not much to do at that milage regardless)

[@SaraiGarage]

@@MLProductions.1 If there’s no explanation w/ proof I just assume the worst. Last thing I wanted was to spend nearly six figures on a GTR and then the transmission fail shortly after (common problem on GTR’s that have been driven hard). But good point tho

[@MLProductions.1]

@@SaraiGarage it's your money 100% I would be cautious too. Better safe then sorry

[@jeoboden]

Why we bringing ghost guns into this 😂

[@ashishpatel350]

Wonder how many rent a car places use this. Exotic value goes down massively with miles

[@MrInternFTL]

Most of the sketchy ones probably do

[@Anouyz]

Government only intervenes when you are saving money, higher price of sale on cars just means more to tax on the sale.

[@michaelf.2449]

Rob FYI ghost guns are completely legal and any company selling the kits and parts to make one isn't breaking the law. You're allowed to have your own homemade gun not registered

[@Sizukun1]

So just watching Scotty Kilmer's videos, apparently some cars have a hidden odometer on the ECU, as well as the ECU for the transmission. I wonder if these $1000 fraudboxes can trick that, or if it just falsifies the odometer on the dashboard. And you're right, there is no reason for this to exist or be legal. Also, if people buying $3mil cars are worried about a loss of $50k on their car, what kind of baloney did they go through to get the money to buy the car?

[@MrInternFTL]

Idk about 3 million dollar cars but definitely forex guys with leased Huracans

[@maheenjillani]

It's not so much for the high end cars as it is for the usual luxury leases nowadays. People buy Benzs and BMWs and freeze the odometer to avoid going over their mileage caps.

[@akakiki4111]

No it can’t. Miles are stored on multiple ecu’s on most modern day cars. It just freezes the gauge and bypasses and “tamper dot” some cars implement to show if the miles were manipulated.

[@maheenjillani]

@@akakiki4111 lmao did you watch the whole video? he literally calls out how the website sells tools to trick the other computers too. I've seen people sell these on IG for leased cars specifically which is why I said that.

[@2011blueman]

@@akakiki4111 This is directly from the website: "The main advantage of Odometer Stopper modules compared to mileage correction tools is an untraceable effect. The information is not stored in any control unit and even with diagnostic testers no one is able to trace the mileage that was stopped while using the module."

[@TheRealPlugMax]

My friend is tryna sell his car that has an odometer rollback on the carfax. He asked me to help sell it for him and I tell him it will be hard because the odometer says 60k meanwhile on the carfax with the first owner it shows the car went up to 280k and then sold at auction! Yet my friend still doesn’t believe it has that many miles.. What makes this even worse is that my friend bought a carfax when he was buying and asked the seller why it says that on the carfax and he still bought the car!! I would’ve ran far away. Hopefully he learned his lesson

[@honchoryanc]

Rob Spaghetti gets mad other chefs are selling spoiled meatballs and wants them to pasta la vista

[@masskilla469]

This is highly illegal and you could go to jail for it. NY has a law on the books!!

[@stevevarholy2011]

There is a federal law. It's a felony. And people HAVE gone to jail for odometer tampering.

[@Merlinen82]

@@stevevarholy2011 good, can they guy selling the Lambo that did alredy admit to this be charged?

[@bk2les]

@@Merlinen82 didn’t he say the dealer did it?

[@Merlinen82]

@@bk2les well he did say a dealer did install it but still it is him that is using/owning it and stoping/rolling bavck the miles.

[@LFSPharaoh]

10% of car jackers get caught in the city by me, half of those get let go, I doubt they’d go after you for odometers these days.

[@barron204]

In my country we have compulsory vehicle inspections for all registered vehicles at 6 or 12 month intervals. The mileage is recorded at those intervals from new or importation date, so if an odometer roll back happens it is recorded in the database as an irregularity and this affects the saleability and insurance of the vehicle.

[@bentracy7463]

Here in the US inspections vary quite a bit from state to state, but at least here in Oregon every two years vehicles 1975 and older are required to pass emissions testing (granted only in the two major metro areas, Medford and Portland). At each test the mileage is recorded, so it'd be the same situation as you where a roll back would be fairly obvious. Unfortunately you could definitely still get around it even with a roll back tool by just timing the roll backs effectively. The mileage blocker would probably go unnoticed unless you never turned the odometer back on between inspections since all they do is the OBD2 or tailpipe smog test - no visual, under hood, safety, rolling road, etc. - so vehicle wear goes completely unnoticed. I had known about roll back tools and whatnot, but these blockers and just the overall prevalence of such tools is seriously astounding. It's such a stupid thing to do, on any car. I mean good grief, beyond being fraudulent, mileage is an important tool. No point in me restating the video, but I am definitely in agreement with Rob.

[@charvakkarpe]

7:12 "At the end of the day, you have to be able to record what the car is being used for." Huh? I thought your whole point is that it doesn't matter what the car is being used for, all that matters is how many times the wheels rotated. I'd prefer a more advanced recording system. Track how many times the car was started cold, how many times the transmission shifted, track engine revolutions. Brake pedal presses. How many times the car sat unused for longer than 30 days. I buy Texas cars because 90,000 miles on sunny highways cruising in top gear beats 20,000 miles of Boston potholes, salt, cold starts, shifts, dents and dings.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Like I said in a post above ,a NYC area car with 75k and say 10yo or so on it is pretty beat. Sounds like semi low miles to most folks ,but a NYC mile can be like 3-5 normal miles.

[@Kevins93cobra]

I just emailed Ferrari, Lamborghini and Mercedes, suggesting this company's website be forwarded to their legal departments. Worst case, I wasted 3 minutes.

[@blairjayson]

Now we know how DDE can afford to drive the p*ss out of their Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Vipers.

[@alexiocatan5602]

LOL i thought same thing

[@ashishpatel350]

Not to mention all the other shady stuff they do

[@venom5809]

Yeah I always wondered about that, wonder no more.

[@dzikijohnny]

LOL They have 3 million subscribers...and everything they do is to a car is shown on the everyone...

[@stang10189]

@Ashish Patel I think the original commenter was joking. They would never get away with doing that. They document everything by having videos on KZbin. What other "shady" stuff do they do?

[@carlos64030]

Wow, that's insane. I can't BELIEVE that a company manufacturing crap like this is even allowed to exist!

[@tudor97]

I live in Romania. Here car imports from countries like Germany are very common, since people don't have that much money. It's a known fact here that most imported cars are rolled back. Since first owners usually take good care of them/have good insurance, etc, you can get a car from Germany with 230000km 140k miles on the clock that looks and drives really good, so the importer will just roll it back to 150k or something and sell it. I like how for Rob this is all new stuff. Not sure how things work in the US

[@cousinjohncarstuff4568]

Rob was a victim of roll back. His first ramp truck he bought showed 113.000? miles. Started having problems common on that series of truck at 250,000 miles. Turns out in fact, it had well over 250,000 miles, but was represented as 113,000.

[@lovenlife6969]

You're the super kilometer filters best sales guy, Sales just went up 10,000% overnight they truly thank you!

[@moonliteX]

what's the difference between fraud and defraud? is it like flammable and inflammable?

[@Volkswagenplanet]

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE IS THE INTENT. REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY USING DRILLS TO REWIND ODOMETERS. TIMES HAVE CHANGED. INTENT IS THE KEY HERE. NOTHING GOOD COULD EVER BE OBTAINED FROM THIS ITEM.

[@Affalterbach1967]

6:15 In some hypothetical case if cars were taxed or insured per mile driven on public roads you might want at least one version of your odometer to not record dyno runs or miles on private track.

[@bbart609]

Investigative journalist Rob is my new favorite Rob.

[@audiocreations]

US Customs has sent them a cease and desist. Also seizing them at the shipping hub in the USA.. hence why they are not shipping to the USA 🇺🇸 now .

[@TheOriginalLugnuts]

It’s crazy that these products even exist. The government went after and shut down the guys making O2 sims and tuners why have they not done the same for these?

[@Anouyz]

no profit motive for the gov cars selling at a higher value then they are just means more sales tax for them.

[@akakiki4111]

Because the company isn’t based in America and they state it’s for tuning only.

[@Elsalte07]

Ive heard stories of guys in NYC that stopped odometers on leased BMW’s. Know a guy who personally did it on multiple cars. Makes me never wanna buy a preowned BMW.

[@deceptor99]

Here in the UK its called clocking and is highly illegal. Also after your car is 3 years old it has to get a government mandated and authorised test called an MOT which will record your millage. Every year you get a paper copy of your MOT certificate and if you are buying a car you can check its millage online on a government website.

[@maxmoser412]

There is no legitimate need for odometer mileage to ever be changed or manipulated, period. Doesn't matter if it's a race car or a rock crawler, or whatever else. There's no legitimate legal justification from a repair standpoint either.

[@amg863]

There is a good reason for mileage to be manipulated or changed. What if your speedometer breaks. Shouldn't they adjust the new one? That's pretty much the only reason though

[@maxmoser412]

@@amg863 in that instance it would be hard to verify what the true mileage really is, as the car will have been driven a while before the issue was noticed by the owner, and the car would also be driven to a repair facility. The only legal way it could be done is if the exact mileage is known at the time of repair. Repair facilities aren't allowed to guess, you have to be able to prove the true mileage. In some more modern cars you can pull actual mileage from various control units, but then you have to go a step further and be able to prove that the control unit you read the mileage from was the original unit installed at the factory. That's quite difficult to do. But of course people still do it with such little risk of getting caught. I've worked in the premium automotive repair industry for 21 years with Porsche, BMW, Audi, etc. None of their factory diagnostic computers allow you to manually reset mileage, which makes sense. By law you are just supposed to put a federal odometer replacement label on the drivers door jam that shows it was replaced and what the last known mileage was, keep repair order documentation with the car showing legal proof of replacement, and the owner is legally obligated to divulge the replacement to anyone he sells the car to. I have also seen on some much newer cars where the mileage in a replacement cluster with self populate once the car confirms the actual mileage via other modules it can reference. But the only devices I know if that can reset the odometer mileage are aftermarket devices, so that's about all we need to know.

[@Cyrix2k]

There is for repair components. I've done it multiple times - it's much cheaper to install used components then buy new.

[@---cr8nw]

I disagree. I think it's reasonable for the mileage to be adjusted UPWARDS. If, for example, you have a car with 150,000 miles on it and you replace the engine, it makes sense for the odometer to reflect the state of the car as a whole. Of course, engine wear and tear is usually the big concern, so I have no problem with people NOT adjusting the odometer to match in that case.

[@MrMagichobo21]

If you need to replace the combination meter (gauge cluster) then you'd want to match the mileage on the new part to what the old part displayed. If you bought a new one you would roll it up, if you bought a used one you may need to roll it back to be accurate. That's the only situation where modifying the odometer reading serves a legitimate purpose.

[@thoralexander9387]

Meanwhile I wish my Odo works because I'm proud of the miles on my car, but the main odo stopped working years ago (sold to me as true mileage unknown), and I'm stuck tracking it with a pen, paper, and my trip odometer. I've accepted that my $1500 Fiero will never have resale value, so the miles are for my sake.

[@TriCountyMotorsEastman]

I have a Saturn Vue and am at that point in the mileage that it is a badge of honor to have that many. It's like the little of lady/gentleman who never let anyone know their age and then all of the sudden when they turn 90 or something like that work their age into every conversation

[@harryschneider1760]

Can a dealer figure out if this was used on a car. Cause the warranty goes by milage ......is there something made to hook up to car to tell if it was tampered with. If not. You should figure out how to make n sell one.....

[@natehydro3886]

its does seem like the cars computer ECU does track it separately and sometimes the transmissions also but they have trick devices for those too. i think most people doing this just do the numbers on the dash

[@natehydro3886]

and the dealers can check that

[@1982MCI]

Yes, you could look at the vehicles computer and possibly see if it had been wiped or not

[@andrewpriest9403]

For modern engines, manufacturers & dealers have tools to see how many hours the engine has been running. This is stored in the engine ECU, and cannot be blocked, because otherwise the engine wouldn't be running. You can estimate actual miles by assuming a certain average mph (usually around 20-30mph). Engine life is better estimated by hours anyway. The ecu is also recording how much time is spent at different rpms, throttle positions, manifold pressures, coolant temps, etc. If buying a car and there is concern about the mileage accuracy, I would recommend getting a dealer to try and pull the engine hours as a cross reference.

[@Behemoth66]

That’s actually false. Have seen this done on multiple super cars and bmw’s = it worked perfectly and not even the Carly tool could detect the mileage tampering . I buy my cars new so meh haha

[@shaikymandel7593]

That’s why as a mechanic I always check a car before purchase for myself and people. I can usually tell signs of wear and tear.

[@stang10189]

There's always a way to tell if someone tampered with the mileage unless it was minimal. Well, maybe not if it's a collectible car and they only do under 10k or something like that. Which would greatly affect the value. Are the brakepads factory? If yes, how much of the pad is left. Spark plugs, air filter, fluids, belt condition, stuff like that. Most people won't take the time or evan consider replacing things like that. Interior condition is a big one, especially the condition of the drivers seat.

[@troyleblanc7344]

You just became their best salesman.

[@Thatguy55595]

Who made that intro music for you?

[@iconicdreams4837]

Here in the UK the miles are put on the m.o.t so you can't really do this. Do you not do this in USA?

[@iamtafara]

Website : This is for offroad use. Again Website : Buy this for your Huracan.

[@MrInternFTL]

Maybe track use? Technically Off Road

[@diggingattycho7908]

It's a rally Huracan, it's driven on a fine crushed gravel driveway everyday.

[@bentracy7463]

Track use qualifies here. Anything off public roads technically does. Although to be fair, why the heck would "offroad use only" matter for this product. It's not a safety or emissions altering device, it's a mileage blocker. Where it got the miles from doesn't matter, they still have to be recorded.

[@hogwild5844]

In england you can check a vehicles true mileage as after 3 years every car has to have an MOT every year and mileage is recorded by the examiner and that mileage can be checked for free on the government website. Further to that if you are buying a car and are worried about mileage change take it to manufacturer dealer and ask them to verify mileage on dash matches mileage on cars ECU's. Changing the dash mileage does not change the mileage recorded on the ECU's

[@MrInternFTL]

The people buying these are probably buying the cars new

[@dawudrashid1515]

Thats not how most blockers work nowadays. There is no way to detect them. It just slows down the odometer instead of stopping it. And all modules will get the same mileage reading

[@user-ur7wd2zp2v]

I have a mileage blocker on my old truck. The speedo cable broke a while back and I haven't fixed it yet.

[@imchris5000]

its even worse with diesel trucks hotshotters will buy them and strip the entire interior including the gauges put it all in storage. they they put their own custom interior in while driving it a few hundred thousand miles. when they are done they swap everything back you then have a brand new interior in a truck that shows low miles

[@matts5937]

Hi rob quick question isn’t rolling a car back or doing that filter a federal offense I’ve been in the car business all my life and i know guys that got arrested for doing this back in the 80s but you don’t hear about that anymore

[@Wunderbaumsporting]

Top tip: buy the example with most disclosed miles and you will get what you pay for. Otherwise you’ll risk paying a lot extra for a tampered car. 😁 I’ve always been sceptical about these 15 year old supercars that have only a few miles on them. Was it on John Temerian’s channel where there was a totally beat up Murcielago that somebody in NYC had been daily driving with something like 10-20k miles???

[@thesigmaworkshop]

Does it work on analog odometers? Need one for my 2000 Taurus wagon.

[@madarauchiha1218]

Ive had some customers keep a pilot log like you do in an airplane for their cars. Its sad to see people doing this.

[@yukonjack.]

If half the rubber tread is missing on the brake pedal you can be guaranteed it doesn't have 30,000 miles 🤣

[@EnthusiastsGarage]

I wonder if the manufacturers that have modems built in the cars and allow you to look at your mileage and location of vehicle can see this is going on.

[@MikeBova1]

Definitely in some cars, I can see my mileage and tire pressure from app on my phone so I'm sure a whole lot more is being sent to the manufacturer computer database

[@muscleeveryday]

This has been an incredible free advertisement for Superkilometerfilter…

[@rustyshakleford5230]

Funny thing is this "super kilometer filter" won't work in the US because all our roads were paved by the mile not by the kilometer.

[@MrInternFTL]

The Lambo in the post had it and it worked

[@Goosewaffles]

Your bringing a lot of attention to this company and probably increasing sales for them. I never knew this existed

[@str8forthakill]

This is countered by MOT in Sweden, you need MOT on all cars, for old cars, once every 14 months. The odometer is written out and digitally stored, anyone can access the data, and its posted on the "find out about X car" sites. If any car at any point is rolled back, its blatantly obvious and public knowledge immidiately. If a car does not get its MOT, it gets a driving ban, if it fails MOT, usually gets 1 month to fix issues and to be retested, If a car is concidered "totaled" during an MOT it gets an immidiate driving ban on the spot, if you decide to drive it from there they are legally required to call the police. Cars with a driving ban are flagged for ANPR cameras on roads and police vehicles, also its against the law to drive them so. If MOT was implemented in the US, i wonder how many unsafe cars would be removed from the roads.

[@blanchbacker]

The US has that. MOT wouldn’t stop this from working. You don’t understand what’s going on here. It’s not a rollback.

[@dawudrashid1515]

Its not a rollback. The tool just slows down the odometer. No dealer tool can detect it. Unless someone physically finds it

[@amg863]

I agree with you completely. It should be made illegal and tbh I thought it was. I know people who do it to their exotics but they also do it to diesel Mercedes, Audi S4 and other nice but average cars. Nothing is safe. My mates would always offer to do it to my commuter cars for a small fee because I put so many miles on mine. It doesn't matter if it's old or new, they can do it easily They don't roll it back because the dealer will see that. They just stop the car from recording the mileage in the first place. It won't display your speed on the speedometer anymore so you just use your phone instead. That's just the tip of the iceberg. I have been working in the field for long enough to know a lot of scams going on. Like how they bypass the emission tests or get a fraudulent MOT inspection, how to half your insurance premium, they buy accidented cars and fix them up with stolen parts. This business is disgusting and everyone knows it but it's even worse than most people think.

[@christianmichael8381]

I thought this was a sponsored video by SuperKilometerFilter 😄 I was looking for a link in the description.

[@klwarhouse]

Back in the 2000's I worked at a new car dealership. The used car manager but a kill switch on his brand new Chevy truck instrument cluster. I'm not 100 percent sure how it worked, but this switch would kill all power to the complete cluster, and would not count miles for that period of time. Fast forward abit, ALOT of people I knew in the business we're doing this.

[@DMort22]

Very simple actually. Tap into the fuse for the gauge cluster and wire a positive and negative to a cheap $5 switch. And that's it. Switch it off to see your mph and to gain miles. Switch off and your mph gauge won't work and it won't calculate miles. This only worked on the GM cars and trucks with digital gauges from that era. Not sure on other makes and models.

[@franklaskus2395]

Coworker put in a switch in the wire between the speedo and ecu on a 89 Daytona

[@Smith1hfhdhdjd]

I have 2 friends that have had 7 lambos between them. Every single one has been rolled back or a blocker on it

[@misterhartan]

The device should do the opposite, count the mileage twice. Theoretically, with a company car. If you pretend to your employer that you drive a lot, in reality, one tank of gas goes into your own car.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

I'd buy that.

[@rustyshakleford5230]

For $100 not $2g

[@Jmac_302]

A lot of government take home cars require mileage records with the gas cards. But dumb people still get caught. But I agree with the double count miles. It would be hilarious to burn those guys and watch how they try and justify suing. “I tried to buy cocaine and he gave me flour instead officer”

[@stang10189]

As a business owner who has employees with vehicles, I not a fan of your idea.

[@misterhartan]

@@stang10189 me neither. But could be possible that people will abuse it...

[@EMAN00619]

Wow a follow up video. Has to be good!

[@ooHUNDMAToo]

Don't know how it works in the US but here in Sweden we have yearly/bi-yearly inspections for almost all vehicles to make sure they are road worthy, during that inspection the milage is noted and uploaded to a national government run registry where the whole history of the vehicle is available for anyone to check. You call still roll back the milage on cars and get away with it but most likely it will be visible in the history of the car. I always check it before buying.

[@thesaint8400]

We have this too in the UK but the problem still applies. You can block most of your mileage so a taxi driver, for example, could log 5000 km between each inspection but really he could be doing 25000 km. I agree that the history should at least prevent most people from rolling the odometer back by a large amount. Apparently it's popular with people who lease cars as they are typically restricted to 5000-1000km per year.

[@venom5809]

How the hell is this even legal?

[@Kevins93cobra]

So we should notify paypal that they are providing payment for a company breaking multiple laws?

[@sannisfl]

Would this work for airplane hours?

[@LFSPharaoh]

Watch them either get away with it, or the government will say “yes it’s fine as long as it’s not on public roads”. People rollback miles, cars are worth more, so when they’re sold to the next guy there’s more taxes collected.

[@roobalottal]

I was about to buy used car in coming week due to low miles on odometer, now I’m not !

[@TriCountyMotorsEastman]

Odometer rollback devices have legitimate uses like when replacing a odometer, however even so they are too readily available. They should only be owned by licensed techs/businesses. Whereas currently anyone can easily buy one on eBay

[@shadow.banned]

Seems they should need manufacturer approval like unlocking iPhones.

[@bentracy7463]

As an auto parts guy, many newer ECMs, TCMs, BCMs, etc. must be sent back to the factory in order to receive a new unit. When doing so they'll require the mileage, VIN, and potentially some other info. I'm not a tech so I can't say for certain if shops have the same abilities, but there is at least some degree of control there, particularly on newer vehicles. Anything after 2006ish has the VIN programmed into the computer (which is one thing distributed DEQ programs rely on), so for those cars the new module definitely has to have at least some basic programming done before swapping it, and in theory mileage should be entered at the same time. But again, I'm not a tech, so take that with a grain of salt.

[@TriCountyMotorsEastman]

@@bentracy7463 you can usually get any of those things on eBay without sending back the old ones. Many of these can have vins programmed with a good scan tool. As far as I know the C8 is the only one that shops (or someone with the right scan tool and passthrough) can't license the software through the manufacturer to program a new computer like a dealer. After 2006 there are still cars that keep the mileage on the dash and not through the computer. Although those might have the mileage hidden deeply in a computer accessable with the right scan tool. There are tools out there readily available online to roll back odometers on newer cars than 2006. I own both a repair shop and a used car lot and have looked into these for when having to replace a cluster and have found evidence in on vehicle history reports of people having used these devices on cars I have bought for the lot. I decided not to get one for the shop since I also have a lot so no one could claim I was changing odometer. If I have to change a cluster and want to get the mileage correct on it, I just send it off to a business that specializes in changing the mileage. There isn't near the control they want people to think there is.

[@Cyrix2k]

Most of these are easy to change the mileage on without special tools

[@TriCountyMotorsEastman]

@@Cyrix2k I have not seen anyone change the mileage on a digital cluster without special tools, unless you mean changing the whole cluster out, but that doesn't work on all as some the mileage is in the computer in not the cluster. cluster.

[@jaxturner7288]

Rob feels the salty burn and realizes he’s the only one selling noodles at their actual advertised length.

[@JamesD401]

Thanks to your link I just bought a bunch of these so I can lower the mileage of the cars I sell at my dealership

[@TheRealKillerTomato]

There is no such thing as a ghost gun. There are chunks of aluminum and there are people that are capable of finishing the machining process.

[@yugotime1598]

Just confirms my long standing thought, I'll take a crazy mileage supercar over a low mile example.

[@wantsanewvehicle]

I never thought this was something I needed. I bought a new car (just a regular vehicle, nothing 'fancy') last year and I also purchased an extended warranty with it.. 150k miles/UNLIMITED TIME bumper to bumper.. Hmm...........

[@greatleader4841]

Well guess you better get one asap.

[@2slovak0]

Miles used to be a badge of honor, enjoyment, fun, and adventure. Now, this is why I always didn’t like guys that where not car guys. They would pull stuff like this just to make as much of a buck as they could.

[@JoeyFenny]

Rob, I was getting ready to buy my first supercar and scouring the market. Now I am paranoid of all of these cars. Now the question is how can we make sure we aren't getting scammed? Only buy new cars straight from the dealer?

[@WoolfJ35]

Even dealers have done this kinda of stuff, at this point it's just rolling the dice

[@sinoperture]

Cab you check the tyres for their manufacture date? IE an X year old car has tyres that are not the original ones, easy to figure. However as you say the odometer doesn't suggest new tyres needed? Also don't the service record book and the service centre also record the odometer each service?

[@tocsa120ls]

Just as with ghost guns, the gov't can try and try again, but people who what this, will have this.

[@jamesmisener3006]

Cars without complete service records will sell for less in the future. But sales of fake service records online will increase! Same old cheese sandwich on different bread. Cheers 🇨🇦

[@Gazoopl]

Where I live rolling back odometeres is illegal since not a long ago. Everyone buying cars ignores the odometer readings, we rely on checking every little detail before buying.

[@ghs7714]

This company has been a life saver for me!! Please open more branches

[@Johnny-tq9no]

They literally have mileage blockers for things like 4Runners and stuff like everyday cars. It's crazy

[@TheOutdoorBeerReview]

That website didnt have anything for the 4Runner, trust me I looked lol

[@Johnny-tq9no]

@@TheOutdoorBeerReview I guess you're right, they have one for the Sequoia and the GX460. I'm sure one of those would work on a 4Runner

[@Johnny-tq9no]

@@TheOutdoorBeerReview but that's just this website. There's plenty other manufacturers that have them for 4Runners

[@Rodknock_jay]

Rob's channel then- no longer high horsepower racing videos, police chases. And pure entertainment. Rob's channel now. Sitting in his bar and giving his option on other KZbin automobile stories, lmao

[@Torpedomtb]

wouldnt the maintenance records reflect oil changes at specific times with millage. Like show me the maintenance records. ANd you would be able to see a history or goto the dealer with the VIN and ask them for maintenance history?

[@ST3ADYxKICKS]

Most of these cars should have a read only eeprom that tracks the miles, i guess they could maybe spoof the part that tracks it

[@angel.2798]

Cars shouldn't be required to have odometers anyway, it's not for your use it's for the next owners.

[@USURPERz]

10 years later I still love listening to u😂

[@aphantasiagreyman8445]

If only my biggest worry was the mileage on my new Lambo being accurate.

[@fourdi]

I know a delivery driver who leases his car. He goes over the lease agreement yearly miles but rolls back the odometer.

[@TheNovaks47]

I think the only way this stuff ends, is if one or more manufactures of these cars affected, files a massive lawsuit against the largest odometer tampering company. Say Ferrari takes Superkilometerfilter to court, and wins(IMO they would win 100%), and effectively puts them out of business with a judgement, then the rest will scatter like the cockroaches they are.

[@MikeKayK]

These scammers will still make their money and after they lose in court, they dissolve the company and just develop a new company and scam. That's how these people work. It's a mentality that the only way to get rich is through scams or by selling products used by scammers.

[@lop8828]

Doesn't work like that pimp. Dealers have no business in court if it's not worth their time

[@robertsrt]

This makes me want to only buy higher mileage used cars. At least you know there’s a good chance it’s honest. I do all of my own work, so screw it. Get the cheaper car and fix whatever breaks.

[@ERICKN29]

They're using a secondary source to sell in the US. NEED TO SHUT DOWN THIS THIEVES

[@mauricecooper176]

It's a weird thing it's easier to do this to supercars than it is to normal cars normal cars and trucks are hooked right to your phone and give you updates when you're mileage and maintenance is due no hiding the miles on something like a ford with Ford pass A Ferrari is technologically advanced as far as the car itself for performance but when it comes to how the Computer Works and logistics they are behind cars like Chevy and Ford

[@leedstown]

In England when a cars mileage is turned back we call it having a hair cut. 10 years ago I meet someone who altered the miles of 6 cars every day, in all the ecus

[@jaydee3043]

In todays episode Mr. Spaghetti claims everyone but him rolls backs the mileages on their expensive meatballs.