Superweapon Size Comparison -- Star Wars Legends and Canon

[@travispollett2120]

Glad you decided to go with narration on this one. Much better than just the visuals imo.

[@georgeofhamilton]

I'm gonna have to disagree with that.

[@RogbodgeVideo]

@@georgeofhamilton Especially with the logo in the bottom right corner, where it blocks the name and size of the ship in question!

[@007bokal]

Wowy

[@gavinsmiley9377]

As a blind person I definitely like the narration, and I really like that you point out where most of them appeared.

[@ultr4e520]

Hol up

[@bluerobin2982]

How you type this

[@warhammertitan9804]

Smh ?

[@attilathehun5067]

@@bluerobin2982 Braille man.

[@Number1Irishlad]

@@bluerobin2982 Blue Robin a lotta keyboards have those 2 little bumps on the "f" and "j" keys, which helps you know where your hands are. With enough practice, you dont need to look at the keyboard to type. And im sure there are special keyboards for the blind.

[@andrewmoncrief9262]

This channel needs to never stop turning out content. Your fans love it

[@ATATChat]

Another great video. Thanks for doing what you do man.

[@EckhartsLadder]

Edit: that premiere was SUPER fun! There were nearly 900 of us watching the video live. If you want to catch the next one, make sure you sub with notifications on! For those wondering about YT premieres: I plan to do one once every week or two. I chose this video because I paid money for the models and animation, and spent considerable time on it, making it well suited for a premiere. For those wondering what a premiere is - the first showing of a new video is live, and fans join in. It doesn't mean the video is uploaded any later (it would have been live at 5EST regardless), it just means you can talk with me before hand and during. Cheers!

[@admiralgama6637]

Eckpire at war

[@admiralgama6637]

I am such a fan tho

[@admiralgama6637]

Plz notice me

[@KondorDCS]

Eck, plz do a fleet battle video on how you think a Star Destroyer fleet (Dreadnoughts too, if you will) would engage a fleet from 40k! I'd sooooo love to hear your thoughts on a Galactic Empire fleet vs Imperial Navy fleet battle.

[@TitanOfDarkness25]

Amazing vid by the way but it’s after 10 in the evening here so it was a wait but it was worth it!

[@Kurai_69420]

The Suncrusher is the Mary Sue of superweapons. Indestructible ultra-small stealth solar-system destroying weapon.

[@Jfk2Mr]

That's why they got rid of by sending into black hole

[@Anon-mu8re]

MaRey Sue*

[@ChupeTTe]

Maybe Rey built that thing

[@germangamingvideos6069]

@@ChupeTTe Maybe Rey is that thing. (And the best Superweapon is clearly the gonk droid.)

[@Abandonsoyciety]

The Suncrusher sounds like a 40k writer tried to make a star wars ship

[@schabjyvba5660]

Narration is a great idea man, really improved this already great format for a video! I remember when the mic quality was the biggest channel issue, now you have got 3d rendered models of ships, and some of the best quality of Star Wars youtubers. Keep it up man!

[@co2blast996]

Prepared for an Eckcellent video as always!

[@RobinSwede]

Gotta smash that like because I know you must've gone through a lot of effort for those 3d models

[@NecronCell]

The starforge has always been my favorite, just take it to the unknown region and start to wreck havoc .

[@ajshell2]

It's probably the most practical too. Destroying planets isn't a good idea, in my opinion. There are only so many habitable worlds. But a factory that doesn't need any raw materials to build stuff? Sign me up!

[@commanderknight9314]

It also corrupts anyone who uses it.

[@plague6566]

@@commanderknight9314 Well fuck, I'll take that offer

[@Chujoi0]

It IS in the unknown regions.

[@minicle426]

I find the World Devastators more practical.

[@nuclearwalnut]

Center point always looks like a big pill someone is about to regret taking

[@Renorick1]

Would make for one hell of a suppository.

[@jacktheflash8478]

Nuclear Walnut lol

[@ordersquamata930]

“I hate the pill.”

[@shadowsnake8989]

I'd still pick the Star Forge myself. Far more practical than just a death ray or an over-sized combat vessel.

[@ColdEquation206]

also you can use the raw materials to make your own ships while using unlimited supply of fuel to the war effort, imagine using the Star Forge against the Empire or the Republic

[@timassmann1246]

I'd pick the star forge because I can just use the unlimited suplies to build some of the other superweapons

[@jacktheflash8478]

Shadowsnake 89 the Star forge is much better than any “planet killer”

[@AbysmalRapture]

You could make an entire fleet of Eclipse dreadnaughts, you know how unstoppable that would be?

[@jacktheflash8478]

Abysmal Rapture hmmm I like where your head is at

[@TheMindRobber42]

Thrawn vs Ender (Ender's Game) Starkiller also had the sun siphoning ability of the Starforge

[@cass7448]

IIRC the consensus in that matchup was that bloodlusted Ender would stomp Thrawn, but otherwise Thrawn would stomp by using Ender's psychology against him.

[@TheMindRobber42]

@@cass7448 I honestly don't see how Thrawn could use that during a battle. Maybe over the length of a war, but honestly I think Ender would win before that. If you want my tactical analysis of Ender from both the book and the movie, he almost never did the same move twice, and he never did one three times. Thrawn might be good at analysing, but it's hard to extrapolate from one point of data. Thrawn, on the other hand had at least one move that I know of that he was particularly famous for: the pincer thing with the interdictors. There were probably more, but none come to mind and I'm not looking them up. Even being known for a single plan would make that unusable against someone of Ender's caliber, and if he had more than one, then that's even less Thrawn could do. I guess my real point of suggesting this versus is because I see Ender as a realistic and more logical version of Thrawn. If you knew and could appreciate every facet of your enemy, could you destroy them without mercy, like Thrawn supposedly does?

[@cass7448]

@@TheMindRobber42 Bear in mind this wasn't my analysis (I haven't read the Thrawn books or the Ender books so I can't really speculate). It's just the consensus that seemed to emerge on various versus threads elsewhere on the web.

[@TheMindRobber42]

@@cass7448 fair dues

[@SolarDisposition]

Bean

[@InzuDraRagna]

You forgot to mention that while the Star Forge was from the Old Republic Era it was a construct of the Rakatan Infinite Empire.

[@MWBalls]

Which makes it the second oldest super weapon in starwars legends, with Centerpoint station being the oldest.

[@InzuDraRagna]

@@MWBalls Second oldest known super-weapon. There is much of galactic history that we do not know.

[@Servellion]

I've always had a soft spot for the Star Forge. It's a super weapon not through direct projection of power but through it's absolutely monstrous production rate. Honestly, one of the most terrifying scenarios I can think of for SW is what if THRAWN got ahold of the Star Forge?

[@ayubsalim1303]

Thank you, Eckharts Ladder. This was a stellar cross-continuity video.

[@UGNAvalon]

Definitely enjoyed the brief overviews accompanying each model, even it was just “this one needs no introduction” ! ^_^ I also loved the ISDs & SSD & Supremacy fleet accompanying the last three models for comparison. While I personally would’ve loved such side-by-side comparisons for All the superweapons (like a TIE or X-wing for the Sun-Crusher), this was definitely satisfactory. Keep it up!

[@kanskejonasidag1]

This was honestly one of your best videos! So good! Keep it up :)

[@BadatBFII]

Very well done. It’s really cool to see all the super weapons up close with each other.

[@briansmith5579]

I like the new way of adding descriptions to the comparisons, not only is it more entertaining but for those without knowledge of some of the things being compared it is more engaging. Thanks!

[@richardkinkead3315]

Just saw The Tarkin. I love that ship. That was an awesome 2 parter marvel comic back in the day. Love these size comparison videos. Please keep doing them.

[@brambo3011]

Love these size comparisons and all your work, keep it up man!

[@galiathen]

awesome channel I've been watching you for a long time and you give starters lore fans what we need ....and I love that dog ..seems like a great sidekick

[@goldeagle6431]

Great video! My favorite super weapon is the Rakatan Star Forge, as it has the capability of creating an infinite battle fleet.

[@JustAPandemic]

Love the size comparison videos, keep em coming.

[@theyogifollower]

As usual, Eck, you have created a fantastic video! Thank you!

[@shastaweston]

The music blends so well together with everything.

[@stormcommando9828]

I LOVE videos like these, keep up the great work! :)

[@darthplaguisthewise8985]

Love your theme music, it adds a good feeling to me instead of having a bad feeling about it.

[@jakedempsey3809]

I consider the Star Forge to be the best superweapon in all of Star Wars. The ability to mass produce weapons on such a scale is much more valuable than a planet killer

[@manlyleonard9547]

These are MUCH better when you narrate them. Keep it up!

[@masonsmith9619]

Nebula SD vs Resurgent SD Btw the channel is going very well, I’ve been here for more than a year and have enjoyed every day of it, keep up the good work

[@Dr.Pootis]

I love how the darksaber looks like a vastly oversized lightsaber, giving the nature of the canon device that shares it's name

[@widget3672]

The narration and music goes a long way to beat the other scale comparison videos. Would love to see more of them from you!

[@henrysmith893]

This is my favourite video series on KZbin.

[@samspeed6271]

Very nice graphics, the narration was nice and so we're the little facts about each WMD.

[@user-Jay178]

Great video and I always wonder how did the first order turn an entire planet into a weapon and have enough people to staff it. Also my favorite is the galaxy gun.

[@ht491]

So good to have talking throughout

[@ApolloTheDerg]

Love it man. Best music choices as well, I love the playlist you made.

[@alfredocoelho8088]

I love what you do with your dog at the end. So funny!

[@Aurik-Kal-Durin]

My favorite is the Star Forge. It is by far the most practical of all these superweapons, and I really like the lore behind it... I can't help but wonder if the Star Forge could still exist in the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War eras, either as a reconstruction created by Palpatine to provide the raw materials needed for the Imperial fleet, or something rediscovered by the Separatists during the Clone Wars and used to bolster their fleets. We do know that Rakatan technology- such as the Star Maps- has the ability to self-repair, and the Star Forge itself draws power from the Dark Side of the Force.... with that in mind, it could be possible that the Star Forge might have slowly reassembled itself in the 4,000 years between the end of the Jedi Civil War and the Clone Wars. It would make for an interesting story arc in the returning Clone Wars animated series IMO, and would be a perfect opportunity to re-introduce fan-favorite characters like Darth Revan into Star Wars canon.

[@ltb1345]

True, but in Legends the Star Forge blew up near a sun, so all of its pieces would've probably been burned away completely before they could start reforming.

[@Aurik-Kal-Durin]

@@ltb1345 Keep in mind, we don't know what the Star Forge was made of. Who knows, maybe in the Star Wars universe, there are metals that can withstand even the intense heat of the sun, maybe a type of ore that can only be shaped using the Force... which would make sense for the Star Forge, considering it was built by a culture of Force-sensitive aliens who used the Force to power all of their technology.

[@minicle426]

I think the World Devastators would be more workable.

[@wordwyrd]

I appreciate the commentary on this.

[@yeetermcgee2510]

“I have something big that shoots lasers” Everybody on the Dark Side: I’LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK

[@yeetermcgee2510]

Nobody? Like cmon it was a good comment

[@obsidian53-B]

I like the starforge the most. A super weapon that can build thousands of warships, turning a lone sith into a powerful warlord. At a price of course.

[@blackshogun272]

Price: *Possibly your rational reasoning and moral views* Side Note: *0.001% chance of crew cannibalism*

[@dommynation7349]

AMAZING Video eckharts. Keep up the great work my guy. Doing really good so far.

[@spencerlewis9701]

Great video, nice commentary

[@Michael-ju8fx]

Holy shit your commentary made this video so much better than past size comparisons.

[@GiovanniCamacho121]

Absolutely love this channel and the death star both 1 and 2 will always be the most powerful most iconic screw starkiller base it was so lame

[@martinjrgensen8234]

EchoVolt 21 super lazy writing.

[@GiovanniCamacho121]

@@martinjrgensen8234 yes exactly

[@GiovanniCamacho121]

@LunaLink yeah perhaps but still it's lame just because it's massive does not always mean it's powerful but to be fair the death star was fairly powerful in it's own right

[@strider117aldo9]

The base being able to literally blow up an entire star system by draining a star's energy isn't powerful?

[@ProfessorPotatoPhD]

A great video as always! Keep up the great work!

[@brendanmelody1075]

Love these vids! Would also love to see some from other universes, especially halo and mass effect

[@IrishPhoenix7]

Great job Eck! (sorry I missed the premiere I’ve been at work all day) I enjoyed the description for each model as they appeared

[@cloakndagger9937]

I swear that outdo gets me every time

[@miniatureben3558]

yeeet thx you eckharts ladder for this showcase

[@Frank-zq7em]

Ever since I first heard of the Star Forge I’ve always wondered how it got materials for making ships or what ever else it was tasked to make. Does it just make it out of pure energy or does it get shipped to the Star Forge?

[@KondorDCS]

Eck, plz do a fleet battle video on how you think a Star Destroyer fleet (Dreadnoughts too, if you will) would engage a fleet from 40k! I'd sooooo love to hear your thoughts on a Galactic Empire fleet vs Imperial Navy fleet battle.

[@simonwillis1529]

Always love these vids

[@vuppet5684]

Starkiller was pretty lame, to be honest. It’s just a planet with a laser in it. Plus, it’s so easy to destroy

[@mhmmm99riga]

not exactly easy considering the shield and the defence force just convinient for the plot

[@TheMindRobber42]

The resistance only knew how to destroy it cause they had a man on the inside. It's like saying the Death Star was easy to destroy because they knew it's one tiny weakness.

[@adchrisrob]

Hmmm....maybe they could've just rammed a cruiser at lightspeed into it.... I wonder if that would work....

[@cookiee818]

@@adchrisrob we must never talk about hyperspace rams

[@TheMindRobber42]

@@adchrisrob the hyperspeed ram didn't even destroy the mega star destroyer, it's not gonna do much to a planetiod. The only thing the ram did was stop the mega from shooting the transports, and destroy a bunch of the useless destroyers behind the mega.

[@sham126]

enjoyed, great video and loving the music too

[@TheJedaiHero9000]

much better than the previous size comparison vids. 👏😀 keep at it & stay awesome.

[@system_philosophy]

Thank you for the great video. Your work is magnificent. It was little surprise that Starkiller is 660km because I thought First order completely modified the natural planet to make it.

[@chrissonofpear3657]

I'm not sure how literally to take the hologram comparing it's size (especially if it's mean't to be to the SECOND Death Star) but 660 km was widely published by some obscure sources around 2016. With more scaling clues, we could get another size, perhaps.

[@system_philosophy]

@@chrissonofpear3657 Thank you to tell me that. Maybe I knowed that number at the time when I watched episode 7, but I completely forget it till now.

[@wyainflect4319]

For real, your outro is sick

[@16jms]

I'd *LOVE* to see a Mass Effect themed size comparison video with narration!

[@HYv47]

Amazing video would love to see some of this for Halo

[@IndigoEuphonium]

Like the commentary a lot more, gives a bit of life to each object

[@trentsolo1883]

I love Centerpoint Station and the mystery behind it

[@ethanmedlicott8604]

Subscribed, shared, liked it, loved it, Keep up the great videos 👍

[@Kissamiess]

Pretty good, but some notes: - As people have pointed out, Star Forge was an ancient Rakatan weapon. That'd make it almost as old as the Centerpoint station. - The controversy about Death Star size comes from the analysis some guy made from the original footage and deduced that DS2 must be 900 km in diameter. The official size has always been 160 km. - Centerpoint Station really wasn't built to be a weapon, but it's simply powerful enough to be used as one. - The original Walt Simonson art never showed Tarkin in its entirety, so I consider the current depictions of it something of a retcon. I personally always imagined it being more cylindrical. Some other superweapons or superweaponesque things: - The Corsair. Naga Sadow's battleship with powerful Force-enchancing Sith machinery that can rip a core off a star and cause it to go supernova if used by a powerful enough Force wielder. - Orbital nightcloak. An array of satellites that completely blocks the the planet off the sunlight, causing it to slowly freeze. It is easy to destroy, so it only works against planets with no space flight capacities. - World Devastators are also considered superweapons by some, though I guess that is debatable.

[@OurLadyOfPunkz]

Truly, yours is a thankful task.

[@MrDrProfessor4]

Superweapons are a dime-a-dozen to antagonists. With how easily they seem to come, why couldn't the New Republic put together something like another Galaxy gun, Eclipse, or Tarkin for the Yuuzhan Vong? Considering Centerpoint Station, I doubt that any of them would've been ineffective or even cost inefficient. I know you'll get to this in the finale of the Vong sub-series. Won't stop me from going through the motions though. Anyways: Can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: Ninty-nine times. Cool, one more and it's one-hundred.

[@hyperiongm330]

Morality reasons probably is the reason the New Republic wouldn't consider it when they were loath to use AT-ATs simply due to the terror factor. That and budget, the Empire had a blank check to work with, the NR in legends was bankrupt for the first few years of its inception.

[@ltb1345]

HyperionGM That, and the canon New Republic had an extremely weak military.

[@spicyladjr3650]

I would like to see one about the forerunner creations Also keep up the good content boii.

[@MattSinz]

You forgot the Mass shadow Generator.

[@wow-oq6jc]

I personally love the Star Forge, it can produce so much to simply take over the galaxy

[@joannaleiserson9120]

I like the voiceover! Maybe you could do voiceovers for past size comparisons, since you already have the video?

[@lieutenantnomad9198]

T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing Please Eck! We must know witch T-65 X-Wing replacement is superior!

[@CuppaTeaExe]

Poe: “This is the death star, and this is starkiller base” *Anakin’s face appears on the hologram* Anakin: “And this is where the fun begins”

[@kingbowser72themylittleponyfan]

Starkiller Base combines these weapons: Death Star: Planet sized and nearly impossible to destroy Galaxy Gun: Can attack from across the galaxy Sun Crusher: Can destroy entire star systems in one shot

[@Emilherulf]

gosh I love your song taste

[@doodlerful]

FYI if you don't like seeing the comments/ the chat window over there you can right click it and click [INSPECT]. This will open a big inspection window normally on the right hand side of the screen. Once that is open you can select the line of code that illuminates the box blue and click delete. Do this a couple times and you can remove the box completely. This is only a temporary thing though because it only affects the one webpage.

[@Xjag]

I like the visual videos like this

[@Furebel]

Dear artist: There is an option in blender to turn off the sunlamp icon and grid in 3D view. While in 3D View, press "N", go to "Display", check "Only Render". It should prevent that lamp icon and grid on 3:20 from appearing.

[@EckhartsLadder]

Yeah that was an oversight - thanks!

[@Furebel]

Sure, I'm glad to help :)

[@TheEventHorizon909]

Can’t wait anymore

[@Shiro_Akira]

I feel like the empire and the first order are trying to compensate for something

[@matics453]

Plz do a warhammer 40k version of this, I really love these type of vids

[@dannygelbart6827]

@EckhartsLadder, are you sure the Starkiller Base was only 660km? that seems extremely small for a planet...

[@milesrowe2263]

Indeed

[@goransvraka3171]

Yes we love it...now could you add colours to it, effects and showcase of their destructive power and weapons and the science behind them. Also a demo of them destroying planets

[@marc-antoine8217]

Much better with the naration over 🤙

[@Ethan-mn5mk]

3 UNSC paris class frigate vs 1 venator stardestroyer

[@Ethan-mn5mk]

Thanks for liking 👍

[@TheMrAnticitizen]

It'd be nice to see you cover the stuff in the Freespace seires.

[@admiralgama6637]

Yes Eck, very cool

[@XxGothicfanxX]

Hi I pixel measured the Star Forge: Considering the first image provided of the Star Forge in the small video clips in KOTOR (the Ebon Hawk flies towards the sun and the Star Forge) and considering the following seconds after the first shot of the Star Forge (A upwards tilde of the camera from the surface of the sun towards the visible star forge), one can make the valid assumption, that the appearing size of the Star Forge should be around 47 000 km (if the sun has the about the same radius as ours ~700 000km) considering the second shot rules out, that the first shot is a confusing perspective like a Merkur transit in front of the sun. But then again, in the final Space fight, Republic capital ships fly very close to the structure and contradict the assumption of the gigantic size of the Star Forge :/

[@WarriorNinjaCat]

You should do some on halos structures.

[@lazerx7550]

Awesome, more please.

[@HokkaidoMo]

Aye, Awesome Video! I was wondering, if you still need any 3D modelers for these kinds of videos.

[@derrickstorm6976]

😍👐 Thanks for doing this

[@cristobalrojassalinas8504]

Plz do halo ones!!!

[@invalidvirus2271]

Quick question how did the starkiller bases laser split into multiple layers at once and destroy multiple planets

[@GALAXIE67]

Very Impressive!! 👍☯️👍

[@Darthkakashi27]

Really cool thank man

[@Scherwey1]

Awesome Video again! Empire Star Wars vs Stargate Goa'Uld Megastardestroyer vs Deathstar How many Executor to beat the Megastardestroyer

[@isaiahstokes7869]

Awesome vid. It’d be amazing if you could do one of these videos for the Halo universe