Supreme Ruler 2030 Loyalty Changes

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@aqkhan6779 Жыл бұрын

What I have observed playing the demo is that the production is only affected if the federal loyality is super low and you would actually see a warning sign in yellow saying the production is affected due to low loyalty. What disappoints me and I have said this previously is that countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Russia and some other multi-ethnic states should have had loyalty based on ethnicity. The developers probably are not aware of the demographics of these countries. For instance Afghanistan has significant ethnic divisions among Pushtuns (majority), Uzbeks, Tajiks, Pamiris, Hazara, Turkmen and Baloch. Similarly Pakistan have Punjabis, Sindhis, Baloch, Kashmiris, Gilgitis, Chitralis, Seraikis, Muhajirs etc. Most of these ethnic nationalities live in their respective regions. The game would have been more interesting for us people living in these countries.

@KonglomeratYT Жыл бұрын

I talked to the devs about the ethnic thing. One thing that comes up is, if you separate loyalties by ideology, then separating loyalties by states or provinces no longer makes sense, and the loyalty system becomes inconsistent. For example, I am from NYC. NYC and most of Long Island is pretty "unified" politically, but almost the entire rest of the landmass of the state is the exact opposite. Realistically, if they had to claim a "Loyalty" the population of the state would split down the middle, and they are geographically located. If they changed loyalties from being the current system then they'd have to redo the entire loyalty map for consistency. And they seem to care about consistency in their development process for 2030 based on my own conversations with Chris and George. They are definitely aware of the demographics, as I've talked to them about this situation. The possibility for what you mention is there, but, for now, from what I've gathered, they're prioritizing consistency of the loyalty system. This may change. That's just what I've heard from them presently.

@aqkhan6779 Жыл бұрын

@@KonglomeratYT I do understand your point, appreciate all your efforts, your admiration of the game and love your content but the thing is, countries fell and have fallen apart on the basis of ethnicity and nationality not political affiliation. USSR, Yugoslavia, East Pakistan etc. Currently all major separatist movements around the world are based on ethnic liberation. US is a unique one where its based on political affiliation or ideology, conservative or liberal. The reason being US is mostly a homogenous society.

@aqkhan6779 Жыл бұрын

The developers have already introduced few regions in India based on ethnciity such as Rajasthan, Punjab and Kashmir but all Im saying is there should be more in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Russia, Spain, France, Poland, Ukraine etc.

@KonglomeratYT Жыл бұрын

I do understand the importance of ethnicity. Personally I dislike the current loyalty map. I think splitting America into its 50 states makes no sense because nobody is loyal to their state as a political entity. They are loyal to their parties. I think this could be easily accomplished with only a couple of loyalties (as opposed to 50+) and be far more realistic, and also in-line with using ethnicity as a loyalty basis. All I am doing is conveying the conversations I've had with the devs, and their reasons for not doing things. I don't have much of an opinion on how they want to standardize or otherwise the loyalty map. Just because I am replying to you does not mean I am disagreeing with you, or that you need to justify your wishes for the game to me. So your "but the thing is" is unnecessary. You have nothing to convince me of because, as you see, I have my own wishes which are closer to yours than to the current implementation. However I will disagree that America is a homogenous society. I'd argue it's the most diverse place on the planet. In NYC I cannot walk more than a few blocks without transitioning from a Polish neighborhood where everyone speaks polish and every store sign is in polish, without meeting a German, Russian, or Italian, Chinese, or African equivalent. America is so diverse you simply could not split it by ethnicity because all the ethnicities live next door to each other. The segregation is only a mile apart, as opposed to walled off by political regions. Even in North Carolina, where I reside now, within my small corner of this massive state I can find African-dominated neighborhoods, English dominated neighborhoods, and hotspots like NYC all within a short drive. All right next to each other. This is far from homogenous. This is the exact opposite of homogenous. This is like if you took all the ethnicities of India and put them in a 5 mile radius of each other.