Sur Ron Bee electric motorcycle Professional Review

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HolmesHobbies

HolmesHobbies

6 жыл бұрын

We review the new Sur Ron Bee lightweight electric motorcycle. Also known as the Firefly, or just "Sur Ron". Ride video here: • Sur Ron Bee Electric M...
The manufacturers site is found here www.sur-ron.com/english.htm
Purchase in the USA from Lunacycle.com
Purchase in Australia and NZ from aebikes.com.au (they also ship world wide)
Notables not mentioned- Gross bike weight about 110lbs. The bike is set up for about 150lb rider weight, but has preload control for heavier riders. The charger supplied by Luna Cycle takes about 3 hours, 10 amps of charging power. Run time is about 35 miles on the street or 1 to 2 hours flogging off road. The easily removable battery makes hot swapping very fast.
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@1lifeonearth
@1lifeonearth 5 жыл бұрын
The future of these type of bikes is gonna be so awesome, I can't wait
@kjensen6281
@kjensen6281 6 жыл бұрын
I wish more people on youtube would review stuff like you do, laid-back, yet stuffed with useful information. Great job with the filming as well. Thumbs up!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The youtube channel is just a side project for informational purposes. I keep it up just because of people like yourself that find the information useful. I'll send my cameraman your compliments, he really kicks it up a notch doesn't he!
@toohsas
@toohsas 6 жыл бұрын
Also the hat turned on the side, he's like so not a douche.
@karlloop4965
@karlloop4965 5 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah
@Frank71
@Frank71 5 жыл бұрын
Refreshing...to see a non pretentious review...you know...endless "shoutouts" to their favorite fans. Another brief segment to their sponsor. Or "housekeeping" about their future shows. Etc.
@zaicliff3010
@zaicliff3010 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Love his laid back but informative style
@beatsdddx
@beatsdddx 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a winner for the price I wanna see more bikes like this in the market.
@R.R.L.
@R.R.L. 6 жыл бұрын
beatsdddx amen
@pinkeye00
@pinkeye00 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Holmes I love your professional films from the 70s. Very classic vintage stuff. Solider on, brother.
@dogcrick
@dogcrick 6 жыл бұрын
Man that looks like it's gonna be fun as hell!! Good score, great review!
@mrbarbarycoast8572
@mrbarbarycoast8572 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thanks for this.
@hoosiertrailrider
@hoosiertrailrider 5 жыл бұрын
Very good job on this review! I could tell your very experienced with this type product. Great component explanation, even a newbie to e-bike learning like me came away with knowledge I can now use to explore the options out there that interest me. Thanks!
@YYCRCFabricationz
@YYCRCFabricationz 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Given me a whole new perspective on the "Mountain Biking" thing, one that'll allow me to enjoy the sport again.
@iverulfengrad3187
@iverulfengrad3187 6 жыл бұрын
YYC DESIGNZ Its not a mountain bike and they are not allowed on mtb trails. Even electric assist mountain bike are not allowed on most mtb trails
@YYCRCFabricationz
@YYCRCFabricationz 6 жыл бұрын
Travis T - Thanks for educating me about this bike. Guess I just thought since it looks very TRAIL friendly it could replace (for lack of a better word) a mtn bike. It's still very cool & I'll have to gain more knowledge about where I could ride one here, thanks again Travis.
@iverulfengrad3187
@iverulfengrad3187 6 жыл бұрын
YYC DESIGNZ You should be able to ride on OHV trails. I feel you I thought the same thing when I first say it
@mzaphod64
@mzaphod64 6 жыл бұрын
What made you stop enjoying it?
@tyson526
@tyson526 4 жыл бұрын
You’re a natural in front of the camera my friend! Nice review.
@sdcrawler8193
@sdcrawler8193 6 жыл бұрын
Dang that bike is pretty kick. Nice review making me want to get one.
@brewedawakening6577
@brewedawakening6577 6 жыл бұрын
An electric motorcycle pulled up to a gas station : Gas attendant " Fill 'er up? Rider: "No, tanks"
@Dan.Chaytor
@Dan.Chaytor 6 жыл бұрын
Mack Cullete nice Mack. Like it
@rorymcelhinney4075
@rorymcelhinney4075 6 жыл бұрын
Speedy I seen you comment this one so many times
@stenyethanmathews945
@stenyethanmathews945 6 жыл бұрын
Well said sir!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
I've had this joke stuck in my head every time I ride this thing up to the gas station. Thanks buddy!!
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 5 жыл бұрын
Brewed Awakening “no tanks, but I could use a plug”
@vladomie
@vladomie 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a wheel builder too and agree with your assessment on spoke choice - thicker is not always stronger!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
5 loose spokes from the factory. Next vid will be addressing this since it's quite important for longevity of the wheels.
@haroldglasscock
@haroldglasscock 6 жыл бұрын
I'm from Missouri too... Thanks for the info
@Into_The_Mystery_13
@Into_The_Mystery_13 6 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@snipervision1
@snipervision1 5 жыл бұрын
I use Holmes electric engines in my rc crawlers and scale trucks. Best rc motor builder in the business. Great review of the e-motor cross cycle. Thx John.
@enduroranch
@enduroranch 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent electric bike Review. Thx for taking the time.
@halihandro
@halihandro 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I’d love it if you could revisit the bike in a couple on months and give us your thoughts.
@206robert206
@206robert206 4 жыл бұрын
Anything with a Golden Motor on it has my support!! I used their original magic pie motor until the Axle stripped from just so much use 😭
@billyweeks5336
@billyweeks5336 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the video. Good info. Enough info without being too much. Well spoken and knowledgeable. Subscribed.
@medpilot
@medpilot 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. You really know your stuff.
@concerncitizen8988
@concerncitizen8988 6 жыл бұрын
Very good review, I learned a lot, thanks. I like it with mud guards on each wheels tho. Thumbs up.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, needs fenders for sure.
@avelkhemchan6640
@avelkhemchan6640 6 жыл бұрын
I would definitely enjoy a teardown video on this bike. More info on the controller, motor, and battery.
@onik2206
@onik2206 4 жыл бұрын
Good, honest, detailed review great job mate :)
@lenhaller2242
@lenhaller2242 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you regarding the spokes, I can also say, our kiwi kids and these guys ride really hard, have never had an issue to this day. No questioning your comment, just adding to it. Nice review BTW
@shovington67
@shovington67 6 жыл бұрын
Great video John! Those are exactly the things I need to know about an electric bike. Here in Toronto I'll have to add a set of studded winter tires to the inventory, but that bike would get me through the city and down to work quick. I wonder if it'll fit in the elevator? Hmmm. ...
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Its light enough to pick up the front end. Would get into an elevator just fine that way like I used to do with mountain bikes.
@charliejohnson_16
@charliejohnson_16 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of licensing is required in Ontario for this?
@shovington67
@shovington67 6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Johnson , at the moment nothing is required in the form of a license, but you must follow all bicycle rules have a front and back light as well as a bell. I always suggest the brightest you can possibly afford, and aimed at drivers in a way that causes them the most annoyance possible. Helmets for bicycles either, but if your not a very proficient rider or your bike goes faster than you can pedal, get a helmet, and have an annoying red flashing light on the back of that helmet, because when some idiot hits you the court will award you the most money when you show them the friggin light show you've got going on , and you can prove that " Damn right I was visible!". I run a 800 lumen flashing white light on the front of my bike, and a 1000 lumen red on the back, and I have an extra 400 lumen red on my backpack, all of them rechargeable lithium, it's about $150 in lighting, and that's night or day, and I've had drivers yelling at me pissed off because it hurts their eyes, I've never been hit in rush hour or night time traffic in my life, and I ride everywhere in the city. Toronto has Los Angeles /New York City traffic, and it's getting worse, 6.5 million people in the metropolitan Toronto area. Hopefully, as long as people stay safe with electric bikes in the city, the laws won't get to where some american cities have gone or God forbid, Hong Kong with its up to 3 months in jail, crazy !
@DriftKingKenzie
@DriftKingKenzie 6 жыл бұрын
doesnt this bike need pedals to be legal on toronto? im looking to purchase one but the only thing stopping me is the pedals @shovington67
@shovington67
@shovington67 6 жыл бұрын
DriftKingKenzie , yes that is one of the stipulations , pedals make it legal but they're just for show, you could barely go anywhere with that gearing. You should check Alibaba because the suppliers of these electric bikes, scooters, and motorcycles will sell you 1 unit and ship it to you for about 40% of what you pay in the U.S.A. and instead of paying $800 for anew lithium battery in a year, they sell them for between $150 and $200 depending on the size. The mark up on these bikes is HUGE,and if you can wait for a month or so for shipping, you can really save a lot of money. In comparison, my buddy wanted a carbon fiber bicycle frame, so he bought it from China and he paid $600 instead of the local retail of $4000, he waited approximately 40 days for delivery. Alibaba is a good faith middle man that holds your money until your purchase is delivered and your satisfied, then they release the cash.
@blipco5
@blipco5 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I couldn't look away even though I really don't have interest in any two wheeled electric bike. Maybe someday.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Graysonator13
@Graysonator13 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review brother
@sirkildalot8409
@sirkildalot8409 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review thanks.
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 жыл бұрын
all our lithium batteries are shipped at a low state of charge as they should be to legally and safely ship lithium.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
0v on the output is pretty low, mate!
@LunaCyclesLLC
@LunaCyclesLLC 6 жыл бұрын
do you really think you could ever recover a lithium battery that had fallen down to 0v? This just means your BMS shut off power to the discharge which on a micro processor based bms like on the sur rons can happen for a number of reasons. The fact you were able to even get to ride your bike means it did not fall below an unsafe level.
@volcanowb
@volcanowb 6 жыл бұрын
PDV Chased me away.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
They do have a point though. My battery has been just fine, doesn't seem to be any damage done.
@aguagou
@aguagou 6 жыл бұрын
Luna Cycles Litio =Chile, ahí ea barato.
@phabletfortyfour3457
@phabletfortyfour3457 6 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, please tidy that front brake cable though sir😀
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. We need to get a cable kit, as it is far too long to deal with by zip ties
@k1t1p2
@k1t1p2 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative technical information all around
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it :)
@JayTronik1
@JayTronik1 3 жыл бұрын
Very good feedback/review video. I also like that cap, but can't tell what brand that is. Looks very interesting & would need one for the colder days. Cheers & keep up the good stuff!
@tysonbear
@tysonbear 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to take you seriously, despite the hat.
@rachelannetx
@rachelannetx 4 жыл бұрын
Check out this beefy off road electric dirt bike, as I take it for two laps in my flat 30 foot back yard.
@jonness13
@jonness13 4 жыл бұрын
THE HAT HES A GANG BANGER HE LOOKS SO TOUGH????? HA HA
@mybasementsonfire4833
@mybasementsonfire4833 4 жыл бұрын
Did you not hear when he said he's been building wheels since 94-95? That explains the hat perfectly
@JohnSmith-kp9uz
@JohnSmith-kp9uz 4 жыл бұрын
The hat is tough and smart open up your heart
@TribalCross01Story-hy4bw
@TribalCross01Story-hy4bw 3 жыл бұрын
Your a hater!
@bravoda1
@bravoda1 6 жыл бұрын
25-45Mph = Nice Juicy Road or Mountain Rash. Yum 😋.
@JoseFernandez-lm1ry
@JoseFernandez-lm1ry 5 жыл бұрын
Wish it would go a lot faster.😉
@davidconjefferson
@davidconjefferson 4 жыл бұрын
Jose Fernandez finally some damn specs so I can say TOO SLOW
@TboneTenEighties
@TboneTenEighties 6 жыл бұрын
First look for me. This looks great!. If i wasn't a city person i would get one for sure. Looks like it can be crazy fun off road in the woods jumping over stuff. 👍
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
I mostly ride mine in the city since it falls into the scooter/moped laws of missouri
@00godlovesus
@00godlovesus 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hospitality John from Colorado
@biscuitsalive
@biscuitsalive 6 жыл бұрын
14 mins before we see it move! Maybe break up the speaky speaky with a little showy showy. :)
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Going to record a ride vid in about an hour for people that don't want so much review.
@V3NQM69
@V3NQM69 6 жыл бұрын
biscuitsalive this.
@kylehamma
@kylehamma 6 жыл бұрын
Break up. Learny learny ;p
@bernadettewigfield419
@bernadettewigfield419 6 жыл бұрын
HolmesHobbies wheres the video of you out on it
@felixthecat5416
@felixthecat5416 5 жыл бұрын
Love ur review I cant stand a long ride with no details so thank you for ur expertise sir
@herberar
@herberar 6 жыл бұрын
John Holmes...John Holmes, does it rings a bell ? ( Sorry, couldnt help it. You must be sick of listening to that )
@RM-my9dn
@RM-my9dn 4 жыл бұрын
You know your stuff! Great Video!!!
@Hopeforpeace
@Hopeforpeace 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice I wish more people would do the same you sound genuine and it would help a lot of people to make a decision if that's what they wanted or not. 😀
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! The youtube page is just a side project for informational purposes. I can give people information and help when appropriate, and have the resources to bring it together into a vid. So it would be a shame to not do this, in my opinion. Since it seems there isn't a lot of information about this bike yet, it was appropriate. Heck, Luna cycle where I bought it from doesn't know anything about the bike, they couldn't answer any of my questions and have been zero help after the sale. Taking their sweet time to respond with a "I don't know" is pretty weak IMO. Couldn't take that week and research or inspect your own inventory and come back with a real response? Just a little frustrating, which is one reason I made this vid so other people didn't have to get the same runaround on super basic information.
@atomicsmith
@atomicsmith 6 жыл бұрын
Personally thought this review of components was sufficient, but would love to see more review of riding and owning the bike. Charging, battery swap and cost, on road riding etc.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I'll keep up the info as we put more ride time on it. I didn't get into that aspect of the bike because I honestly don't have enough ride time to form much opinion of the finer points. But I will soon, its getting ridden daily.
@limmoblack
@limmoblack 6 жыл бұрын
Hurry up!:)
@iliketowatch.
@iliketowatch. 6 жыл бұрын
If you're like me and you just want to see him ride the thing, fast forward to 14:07.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
I still need to do a ride vid. We are shooting another monday and will totally do more ride footage.
@FaithandActiondotnet
@FaithandActiondotnet 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John Holmes, thanks for the breakdown, that's good info'. I've been looking into this one for rural Alaska & it seems like a good deal for sure. New dead battery is definitely annoying though!
@jessehall7654
@jessehall7654 6 жыл бұрын
Good video bro you are probably the best reviewer I've seen. Keep it up .I want one here in Florida.lol
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Not every agrees with you here. Seems not every body agrees that reviews should have talking about the bike in question, lol
@joustingking
@joustingking 6 жыл бұрын
I, too, shall refer to your hat being all catawampus and imply that your apparel makes you appear to be a player-created character in a skateboarding video game while also proclaiming that older internal combustion technology is cheaper than new electric propulsion because I am very observant and smart and quite attractive.
@cccagley5276
@cccagley5276 6 жыл бұрын
Jousting King What the heck are you talking about
@joeleek9976
@joeleek9976 6 жыл бұрын
CCCagley FPV -that right there is an extra thick layer of sarcasm you are witnessing.
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 6 жыл бұрын
Jousting King What bullshit
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 4 жыл бұрын
Dude man bro, skateboarders and dirt bike riders are in a tight knit and overlapping genre of punk rockedness. You never heard of X games?
@jasongooden917
@jasongooden917 6 жыл бұрын
E-bike laws seem better in the US than Canada. That thing is illegal in Ontario. 1. e-bike must be no faster that 20 mph and can't have sport mode switch. 2. e-bike must have pedals 3. motor must be direct drive and not connected to gears 4. it cant be more the 500 watt..... 5. The above laws suck.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
What about scooter laws? This could be classified as a 50cc equivalent bike in EP mode.
@jasongooden917
@jasongooden917 6 жыл бұрын
Might require insurance if the law has changed in the last few years, I have a friend with a legitimate e-bike and the Cops pulled him over 7 times in 6 months. He had to fight it. It looked a bit to much like a Scooter. He also had a Slow move vehicle sign on the back and that is illegal. In the end he won.
@kengruz669
@kengruz669 6 жыл бұрын
If it's got pedals- and can move the vehicle via them, and is doing the speed limit, it shouldn't matter what it looks like.
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Gooden It's not a E bike it's a electric motorcycle
@GoodMan-fj1ym
@GoodMan-fj1ym 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Gooden Canada sucks they hate their people that abused them with high taxes and then tell him Healthcare is free it is a farce the healthcare that's free as a joke and they won't even give you a surgery when you need the surgery so wake up and start telling these people off or just move to the US where you can do whatever you want my friend. I have a Canadian girlfriend for 7 years and she's a total b****
@jkingsrd1
@jkingsrd1 6 жыл бұрын
Good review the bike looks good ..good point on the hub and spokes ..
@Cool34900
@Cool34900 6 жыл бұрын
How did you get it now, when LunaCycles says it will ship end of February?? I'm ordering mine by the end of this week! The price on Saturday was about $3,300. This week it's $3,474. I'm hoping it doesn't go up anymore before Friday!!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Got one from the first shipment right when they arrived.
@jerryjordan8551
@jerryjordan8551 6 жыл бұрын
Cool34900. Too much Money 🖓
@Cool34900
@Cool34900 6 жыл бұрын
Larry Jordan yeah I mean its not cheap. But its definitely a bang for your buck in the electric bike community
@thatsmyrc
@thatsmyrc 6 жыл бұрын
Blowing them burms out ;-) Mo what part?
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Columbia
@shawnc1716
@shawnc1716 6 жыл бұрын
Hell iv been to Columbia mo. Once when my sister stole my truck frm alton il thats were she left my shit but sweet review looks like a kick ass ride
@aaronfuksa2047
@aaronfuksa2047 4 жыл бұрын
Neat. I want to install that kickstand safety feature next time in my ebike build.
@Onix.556
@Onix.556 6 жыл бұрын
Good review man!
@tomcat6933
@tomcat6933 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a trek 8+ electric commuter bike last year and luv it. I want this now. By the way your hat tilted to the side is distracting.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't on purpose, the jacket had pushed it around. But it gets all sorts of comments, so it was probably a good thing for the vid to have something for people to dislike.
@tomcat6933
@tomcat6933 5 жыл бұрын
@@HolmesHobbies yes it seems people luv to be negative. Anyway i luv electric bikes and your reviews are excellent. Keep up the good work.
@VocalVirgo
@VocalVirgo 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Boyle His hat tilted to the side is sexy. Don’t be so negative man!
@rocketman63
@rocketman63 6 жыл бұрын
The way you were wearing your hat, I kept expecting you to bust out some "rymez".
@thomaslavery5168
@thomaslavery5168 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks for sharing much appreciated , I’m looking forward to your next video pt 2 thanks again
@aldobmusic
@aldobmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Fan funkn tastic review Mr Holmes.
@Lifeofanrcaddict
@Lifeofanrcaddict 6 жыл бұрын
I need one of these. But I'm 230lbs. Will it work for me?
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
my 220lb friend rode it, no problems. Since there is a chain drive final, it could also be geared down further for more torque in off road situations.
@richardconner15
@richardconner15 6 жыл бұрын
Life of an RC Addict THE MORE WEIGHT, THE MORE DRAW ON THE BATTERY. Don't EXPECT 45 MPH, OR AN, AS ADVERTISED,NUMBER OF MILES, BEFORE THE BATTERY NEEDS A RECHARGE.
@screaminginternally3597
@screaminginternally3597 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Conner WHY ARE YOU YELLING
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 5 жыл бұрын
Alien On a Bike my brother is quite thin, but at 6’9” tall... he still weighs in around 260... so losing weight isn’t an option for some human frames.
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 5 жыл бұрын
Alien On a Bike 206 centimeters tall... or 2057.4 mm
@pigeonfarmboy
@pigeonfarmboy 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Hey you! Hope all has been well.
@pigeonfarmboy
@pigeonfarmboy 6 жыл бұрын
Can't complain, hope the same is true for yourself.
@Jahmastasunherbalist
@Jahmastasunherbalist 6 жыл бұрын
Really well reviewed
@skipmoto3438
@skipmoto3438 4 жыл бұрын
Great job on info !!!!
@Icantbelievethisshit
@Icantbelievethisshit 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy Town from 2001 called they want their hat back.
@ljw2896
@ljw2896 6 жыл бұрын
What your name is John Holmes ?
@fastdude2002
@fastdude2002 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe his mom named him after her favorite actor?
@ProXmoD
@ProXmoD 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice front brake line hanging there with a 1m loop. Classy
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Quite so. I finally got the time to clean up the wiring on the bike, looks a lot better now. Should have a vid out in a few days that covers the latest changes.
@TangoSnipes
@TangoSnipes 6 жыл бұрын
Digging the disc golf basket!
@3535samuel
@3535samuel 6 жыл бұрын
Wath a big loop on the front brake cable. Lolll
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's been quite annoying. Can't really just zip tie it any better. Might have to chop it shorter and rebleed the brakes.
@jackmcandle6955
@jackmcandle6955 6 жыл бұрын
Ya I’d be a little concerned the thing might get brushed in and sucked up, then an OTB close up 🐜 view
@jennifercampbell8939
@jennifercampbell8939 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and thorough. Can’t believe you rate quality at 9/10 despite nuts and bolts not being tightened. Sounds like China has managed to lower everybody’s expectations.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
The overall bike quality IS 9/10. I didn't discount it because of the bolts for a few reasons. Primarily, they were "tight enough" to get through a few hundred miles. 2nd, any bike rider must go over a new bike and also do regular checks on nuts and bolts, this is a big part of owning any bicycle or powered machine. While I would certainly prefer the bike to be totally perfect, do keep in mind that I have been building my own bikes for decades and will nitpick details that might be good enough for everybody else.
@shanewright6582
@shanewright6582 6 жыл бұрын
I'm only 1:41 into the video but I had to stop to give you props on that sweet golf basket!!!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
My other hobby.
@blockhead3654
@blockhead3654 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. You might want to do some more attention to detail about that front brake line . But I don't want to tell someone with your detail what to do . Thanks for the review . It was point on .
@shnrmrz68
@shnrmrz68 6 жыл бұрын
Triple clamps! Is the correct terminology.
@all2kx
@all2kx 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 6’3” you think I can get one
@coldasspiece
@coldasspiece 4 жыл бұрын
Man I wish somebody would answer this. I’ve been asking on a hundred different vids
@AreEff1987
@AreEff1987 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing review
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TMAdventuresT7
@TMAdventuresT7 4 жыл бұрын
Good job dude 🙌🏽
@drmachinewerke1
@drmachinewerke1 6 жыл бұрын
Not a crown a triple tree . just FYI If it is a motorcycle forks
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Double crown, triple tree? The lower crown was the one with looser bolts.
@snap1024
@snap1024 6 жыл бұрын
15 mins and never rolled an inch? Does this rig go?
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Well we know who didn't watch the entire vid now...
@busterstig7830
@busterstig7830 5 жыл бұрын
Then watch a test ride vedio not a review , ya duhhh
@fredbissnette3104
@fredbissnette3104 5 жыл бұрын
Great review
@jojodroid31
@jojodroid31 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone that knows about EV.
@scottdashnaw2345
@scottdashnaw2345 4 жыл бұрын
Do you wear your helmet sideways to ??? Lol
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 4 жыл бұрын
backwards for maximum cool
@NuisancePanda
@NuisancePanda 6 жыл бұрын
Ever take that thing over sweet jumps? You got like 3 feet of air that time!! #NapoleonDynamite
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Not much yet besides jumping some stairs .
@0004612
@0004612 5 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha, loved that movie!
@shobhithkumar2533
@shobhithkumar2533 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful invention
@seeinglight
@seeinglight 4 жыл бұрын
Good job on the vid! Has it enough torque to wheelie?
@sadigov
@sadigov 5 жыл бұрын
“I am John Holmes”. You are in a wrong video my friend.
@HayabusaOrlando
@HayabusaOrlando 4 жыл бұрын
Only the old timers like me will get the meaning of this. 👍🏼🍆😂
@mclovin2991
@mclovin2991 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not that old but I definitely know what he's talking about.
@mrbarbarycoast8572
@mrbarbarycoast8572 6 жыл бұрын
I find it troubling that Luna Cycle didn't at the very least, charge the battery. They also should have went over every bolt and key part before shipping it out to you. Just my 2 cents.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
they are just shuffling boxes at this point. Order them to the spec wanted, hope they are fine from the factory.
@TheFootbaldd
@TheFootbaldd 6 жыл бұрын
No respectable company will provide a battery that is not in "storage mode". What are you trying to say? The hardware is a different story.
@mrbarbarycoast8572
@mrbarbarycoast8572 6 жыл бұрын
The battery was dead on arrival. Watch the video.
@TheFootbaldd
@TheFootbaldd 6 жыл бұрын
MRBARBARYCOAST I saw that, but you mentioned the battery being charged. Thats a cheap bike. Lets see a tear down on the battery pack itself.
@mrbarbarycoast8572
@mrbarbarycoast8572 6 жыл бұрын
Supposedly, the battery is made of high grade Panasonic cells. From my personal experience, from owning 17 different electric bicycles, is that every one of them had a full to 3/4 charge upon arrival or when I would pick one up from a local dealer. This Sur Ron model I was and am very interested in buying based on the specs provided by Luna Cycle, but not if the batteries have not been taken care of.
@virgilwilliams2378
@virgilwilliams2378 5 жыл бұрын
Well green is my favorite color, and i do like the design.
@MichaelAirbnbHost
@MichaelAirbnbHost 6 жыл бұрын
Your camera guys really good.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Professionals. I claim no skills of filming.
@a.wmitchell6848
@a.wmitchell6848 6 жыл бұрын
And for the same price you can get a nice two stroke 125 or 250 and have that great smell.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Only downside is using them at night in town. I thrashed the back lot for a half hour saturday night past 9pm and didn't have the cops come. Couldn't do that on any of my gas bikes!
@1tokeover
@1tokeover 6 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I want one! Late night riding with friends!
@JQUICK21
@JQUICK21 6 жыл бұрын
@Anthony Mitchell - What's your address loudmouth?
@a.wmitchell6848
@a.wmitchell6848 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not putting my address on KZbin... not that I’m worried about a bunch of soy boys anyways.
@JQUICK21
@JQUICK21 6 жыл бұрын
OK girlie girl keep hiding! No doubt you've had your ass kicked many times running your mouth like that!
@mattweisz
@mattweisz 6 жыл бұрын
How can you rate it a 9 out of a 10, especially since it came with the dead battery, and very poor assembly? Tell your camera operator to zoom in on what you’re talking about as opposed to zooming out so we can see you. Also, were you paid to do this review?
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
The battery capacity was not affected by the low state of charge, and evidently the packs are sent in this low voltage state for shipping/ import reasons. Turns out the charger would have started the first time if I just waited more than a few seconds, so that was my fault there. Assembly itself wasn't poor at all. You have to keep in mind I have been building bikes for decades and am being really really nitpicky about everything, you are getting the unfiltered deal and not a sugar coated review. This is a bike that has to be partially built. Tightening and checking bolts is part of the final assembly procedure that SOMEONE must do on all bikes. No actual issues material or otherwise have cropped up, so for this bike in today's market the 9/10 rating is still accurate IMO. A high quality bike at practically half the cost of anything near it. There are a lot of bikes similar to this one in the 10k to 12k range even. Wish I was paid for this, lol! The bike was bought at full price, and I paid employees to film and edit it so other people could make an informed decision. I've been riding the pants off of the bike every day I can, absolutely love it.
@mattweisz
@mattweisz 6 жыл бұрын
Thx for the reply. Look forward to a long term review and maybe a review of one of the 10-12k ones.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford something like that! Maybe down the road, I would go for an Alta or Zero full size motorcycle at that price point. Although there are lighter "mountain bike'" size ones at the same price too. Don't need another light bike though, the Sur Ron really fits the bill perfectly.
@maxdemps6504
@maxdemps6504 6 жыл бұрын
mattweisz . How fast can it go what the top speed 64hr
@Poontang123
@Poontang123 5 жыл бұрын
@@HolmesHobbies what's the range actually like on this bike please in real world conditions
@herberar
@herberar 6 жыл бұрын
Great review, allready liked and subscribed .
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@partsbenttoys
@partsbenttoys 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the review John, i will be subscribing to see any follow up vids as you enjoy this bike. really interested to know what to expect as far as distance traveled on a charge in real world riding and how much of an incline it can handle. cheers
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! I'll be making more as time goes on. 40 miles on the street is what I'm getting. I have a back lot thats about 35% grade and it has no issue with it.
@thisthatandtheotherchan5548
@thisthatandtheotherchan5548 6 жыл бұрын
I won't bother checking the price a used motorcycle is most likely cheaper.
@DunkenGuitarist
@DunkenGuitarist 6 жыл бұрын
it's very loud
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
The mic is about a foot away from the frame, on me. To a person standing to the side it's not loud at all, and really isn't loud to the rider either. But the mic does catch the frequency well. Newer bikes should have a controller with less noise.
@MyDemon32
@MyDemon32 5 жыл бұрын
No shit sherlock
@mustafaguven7920
@mustafaguven7920 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review 👍
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks :)
@mariobajac
@mariobajac 6 жыл бұрын
Something about your KZbin name I don't know why I like it so much?
@olasand
@olasand 6 жыл бұрын
man, i can't belive people still wear those hats in 2018. xD
@captamerica3693
@captamerica3693 5 жыл бұрын
I had one in 82
@marsbase3729
@marsbase3729 5 жыл бұрын
still cool
@GregKhar-NU-Metalhead2000
@GregKhar-NU-Metalhead2000 5 жыл бұрын
It's a trend in 2099
@paulandersen9386
@paulandersen9386 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t go with the gray beard
@tekoppentekoppen761
@tekoppentekoppen761 5 жыл бұрын
3300 Euro. No thank's!
@chandanindalkar
@chandanindalkar 5 жыл бұрын
You can build your own with that much amount
@icanseeyouallfromuphere
@icanseeyouallfromuphere 5 жыл бұрын
Cool lookin two wheels!
@carmell71
@carmell71 6 жыл бұрын
You obviously know your stuff. Subscribed!
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@outlawshinemaker
@outlawshinemaker 6 жыл бұрын
I will stick with my ktm my fosil fuel is less deadly to the earth than whats in that battery.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
#1, I don't care if it is. #2, lithium batteries are 100% recyclable if people don't just throw them out. Tesla's battery factory recycles this format of cell, solvent and all.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
To expound on #1, I don't care if electric vehicles are "more deadly" for the earth, mostly because there isn't enough information to really say that is absolutely true. There is as much support for them being better as their is being worse, and it is tough to trust that the fossil fuel industry isn't just spreading propaganda to keep their revenue stream flowing. I like electric vehicles not because of some "green" feeling, but because of the raw performance and power they give. I have dirtbikes, I have scooters. One by one they are all getting replaced by lighter and more powerful electric bikes. 6 of one, half a dozen of another. I'll take the one that is easier to maintain and produces peak torque at zero RPM.
@Bryan-Hensley
@Bryan-Hensley 6 жыл бұрын
The Notorious Angler wrong
@cheapspace
@cheapspace 6 жыл бұрын
i thought ktm made an electric bike?
@TalynStormcrow
@TalynStormcrow 6 жыл бұрын
You're joking right? Thanks to fossil fuels, pretty much set that climate change will kill a billion people + by the time I kick it.
@hameedkhan4510
@hameedkhan4510 6 жыл бұрын
More close up of the bike and less of your jibber-jabber
@limmoblack
@limmoblack 6 жыл бұрын
His jibber-jabber taught me stuff about wheel building
@finnblu3002
@finnblu3002 6 жыл бұрын
Hameed Khan Dr... doom.
@noelwhittle7922
@noelwhittle7922 6 жыл бұрын
great review. You know your stuff. thanks.
@HolmesHobbies
@HolmesHobbies 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Finally, my business and hobby adventures are good for other folks too :D
@normbrousseau2359
@normbrousseau2359 4 жыл бұрын
Cool bike .. enjoy !
@lineoffire4635
@lineoffire4635 4 жыл бұрын
Please can you show in more detail the engine and how it provides all the torque it has? Thank you for your videos.
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