Surface Pro 9 Artist Review

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Hey, guys. VERY IMPORTANT! There must have been a bug in geek-bench when I was running the GPU scores. It seems that they weren’t accurate. The GPU scores that I’m seeing online when searching their index are showing over 13,000 on the GPU, which is much better than the results I got. I tested the benchmark multiple times, at least 6 times on different days at max power plugged in and the result kept coming back as what was shown in the video. I would have had a very different view of the GPU in the video if the proper results were shown. I also think this happened to me last year on the Pro 8 tests, but it’s hard to remember. Interestingly the geek bench browser is showing that the Pro 8 i5 reaches over 15K, so I’m not sure why the scores are still behind even the Pro 8. But at 13K-14K and the i7 hitting 17k+ I can say the intel Iris XE has made great strides. Hope you guys catch this comment, I’m really bummed that the scores didn’t come in properly. I also didn’t realize the Pro 8 i5 had a fan either because it ran extra silent, and assumed it had no fan being that previous gens had no fan.

[@FrankFurther]

Nonsense, your results are the results to be trusted.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@FrankFurther I searched the geekbench index and saw higher results and those results get automatically upload to their site from other users tests so I’m pretty sure there was a bug going on, I tested it again after I found out and they showed the higher results. Not sure what was going on with it.

[@ranimebelhadj]

Hi can I Install softwares on the surface pro’s

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@ranimebelhadj yes

[@lunaprojectdev]

Can you review the chuwi uxBook?

[@unexon]

The biggest advantage of Surface Pro 9 over iPad Pro is that Surface Pro 9 runs full Windows 11 system, so all apps, programs and even games (of course those more light, we won't play Cyberpunk 2077 on this - unless via cloud gaming) can be run on it. If someone is in Apple ecosystem then should go for iPad, coz it's all connected there. But if someone is just looking for 2 in 1 laptop for work, consuming media, movies etc. and doesn't want to create full ecosystem (where you have to spend money on other devices) then Surface Pro 9 is a better choice

[@peta3d_indonesia]

even ipad can't replace macbook, unlike surface can replace your laptop, pc

[@homidjohn]

It's so fun to watch him take advantage of the Dial. You never see other KZbinrs show it off. Btw, I wish Microsoft put out their Magic Trackpad equivalent already.

[@bjarnehansen3812]

I have the i7 version and my Geekbench scores are: Single Core: 1680, Multi core: 8094, Open CL: 17766. All at max power option and unplugged. The i5 should not be that much slower.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Wow really? When I ran the marks, and I ran them multiple times, I mean I ran it at least 6 times on different days plugged in and unplugged of course at max power to make sure, and the scores shown in the video are what I kept getting, and I assumed the GPU hadn’t improved based on that score. I wonder if that was a geekbench bug. I would really like to know now because that would totally change what I said in the video. If I saw a score anywhere near what you are getting I would have talked about how much better it was.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

As I am looking on geek bench right now I am seeing scores of 13,000. Jeez. I have no clue why that was happening.

[@delasantos]

Just a really great comprehensive review covering all the main points I am interested in such as comparing to the IPad Pro, and all the details of the user experience from a real world practical experience. Thank you for making one of the best SP9 reviews out there ! 🎉

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Glad you enjoyed. Appreciate it!

[@delightfulsquirtle]

I will wait for the surface pro 10.

[@KiteoHatto]

I have the i7 version and the battery life is so bad. I charge it overnight to take it to class in the morning and by the time it's lunch time, i have to charge it again. I get like 3.5 hours IF that of pretty light photo editing, note taking and a sketch. No gaming or watching videos. I don't know if adobe cloud is screwing me over with constant syncing or something or even onedrive. I wish i got an ipad instead.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Yea and I saw your other comment too. Can’t go wrong with iPad Pro when it comes to for art/creation and hand working with the pencil. Also check out a software that I’m a part of called Artstudio Pro

[@ahmedalshair]

Thanks for the review.. You talked about the "balanced mode" that initiates once you unplug the Surface Pro as if it's enforced on users, which is not true and misleading to be honest. You can always control this in the settings to keep the "best performance" mode working even if unplugged. This of course will have a negative impact on the battery life but will achieve the goal of keeping the performance consistent.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Nowhere does it let the user know that it’s doing that, tech people know, but most users don’t. I’ve covered the Surface since first generation and I have gotten loads of messages from people who had no clue there were different modes, but that’s not the moral of what I was saying. The point of saying that was that the intel chips in this machine do not do well when it comes to battery life and efficiency. If you unplug and are traveling you need battery life, balanced or low power mode is the only way to get some ok battery life (but still nothing long or good) In this video I mention clearly that you can go into performance mode on the battery but that’s going to kill the battery within 2 hours. Also, even when in high performance mode on the battery it still doesn’t perform the same as when it’s plugged in. The machine still AUTO puts the user in balanced mode on the battery for a reason.

[@nasergh9354]

Is this surface have an option to use it with power and without charging the battery so it doesn't get hot in use and no concern about battery life?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

It has a low power mode but all windows portables have a low power mode.

[@markmoriarty7760]

I have the Surface Pro 8 i5 and it does have a fan. Only comes on if you are really pushing it and it is not loud at all. Also my Surface does not make any odd sounds as you had. Perhaps you machine was faulty.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Really? Wow the Pro 8 was so silent on the i5 I thought it didn’t have a fan because previous gens had no fan, and I assumed that stayed the same. I truly never heard the fans on the Pro 8. This model when the fans kick on it’s pretty noticeable ( I mean when pushing things a bit) Unit could have been defected, because I def heard a lot of noises and looked them up and saw others on Reddit reporting similar stuff. But the older gens that had no fan were truly dead silent and they still did a surprisingly good job at handling heat.

[@ralbav]

Very good video. Have you suffered the old problem with the pen while you are making zoom in Photoshop? In old version Surface with W10, the stylus only moved the canvas instead of drawing when you made zoom.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Thank you. Not a problem I noticed but it also wasn't something I was looking for or knew about either.

[@thekaytouch]

Heya Cladio. Thanks for the review. Please are you able to record time lapses with Clipstudio paint on the surface pro?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Sure, you can screen record with it

[@christianr.5868]

Can’t wait to see how the snapdragon X Elite ends up being for artists. The cool and quiet nature combined with the good battery life and off cable performance sounds awesome

[@CladioJulianoArt]

We shall see soon!

[@christianr.5868]

@@CladioJulianoArt subbed and belled!

[@marianmarian6414]

Very useful video... One question: what is that device you roll to turn around the canvas?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Ty, it’s the Surface Dial

[@marianmarian6414]

@@CladioJulianoArt thank you.. Look like is make the process more easy and comfortable

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@marianmarian6414 It is enjoyable but it doesn’t work the same in every software. The software I showed it off in is Clip Studio Paint and they have set things up very nicely for it.

[@stephanierianne]

Not sure if I missed this --I would appreciate it if you could indicate how much RAM this version of the Surface Pro 9 had? (8/16/32 GB)? Thanks!

[@CladioJulianoArt]

8 Gigs of ram on the unit in the video

[@wiz3174]

Finally a review that goes into detail like I wanted! I found a new surface pro 9 (i5 8gb 256gb) + keyboard and pen for 1k USD, considering selling my Tab S8 then buying it. (I mainly notetake and study, watch movies, light gaming, edit photos, write) It's amazing for notetaking for University, that's what I mainly use it for alongside entertainment, but the fact it runs the android version of Office apps and doesn't run windows apps I occassionally use like Photoshop is a bummer (I have to wait till I get home to use my PC) + I could play 2D light games on the go. As for writing, I got a third party S8 type cover and it's pretty bad and the weight of the tablet makes it fall back easily + connecting it with Bluetooth is inconvenient The battery life sounds worrying though, especially considering it might deteriorate over time. What do you think?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Well, you know Surface can certainly do all the things you need it to for your use cases. The biggest downfall of the Surface Pro is battery life. With light work you can probably pull 7 hours, but once you get into things like Photoshop and browsing and even light gaming it will be more like a 3-5hr machine. You’ll definitely have to travel with a charger. I don’t know if you are open to using anything or if you prefer a specific platform but the iPad Pro could be a great choice for you if you were open to working in other software for photo editing. With full pro software like Affinity Photo, ArtStudio Pro, Clip Studio (all full cross platform pro grade software) give a really excellent experience with iPad Pro- especially with the M series chips. It’s also great for note taking. For docs I use iWork on iPad Pro and they work great and are very full featured. The Magic Keyboard is a great typing experience with a fluid trackpad. You’d also get plenty of battery life. Something to consider if you are open to the Apple side. If not the Tab S8/S9 would be my choice simply because they are going to have far superior battery life over Surface.

[@wiz3174]

​​​​@@CladioJulianoArtI've been using windows and android all my life, switching from the Office apps and Adobe apps I'm used to, to Ipad os and its apps, would be hard. I already have the S8 but it has a worse (3rd party) keyboard (because the s8 doesn't have an official keyboard avaliable in my area) than the surface, no light gaming, no photoshop light editing on the go, etc After more thinking, I realized I'd be using the surface in a University which is full of charging ports and study rooms with them everywhere, so charging it on the go won't be a problem. I think I could handle it (unless it only lasts 2-3 hours like some people I've seen online have said)

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@wiz3174 Then I think Surface should be fine for you. As long as you are at 50% brightness and are working light it shouldn’t drain in 2hrs. At least not the i5 version.

[@dzmitry-lahoda]

what is the device used to rotate and zoom?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

called Surface Dial

[@googitygig]

What is that wheel he uses to rotate and zoom called?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Called the Surface Dial

[@googitygig]

@@CladioJulianoArt Thank you

[@sebastiandresilva]

Hi! Great review! Which version is this? Is it 8GB of RAM or 16GB of RAM? I'd like to do occasional simple Premiere Pro edits, and maybe some very light After Effects here and there on the go, while still having a solid device at home with RTX GPU and 8-core processor. Would you say the 8GB version is enough? Besides that, I'll just use it for note taking, annotating pdf documents and basic office work.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Thanks! You know with editing in Premiere performance relies more so on the GPU more than anything else. Should be fine for light editing.

[@forbiddensuper2369]

I’m wondering what are you using to rotate the page it looks really interesting

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Called the Surface Dial

[@bharat5194]

Thanks for the detailed review. How's the experience of working with the Surface Dial + Surface Pen 2? Is it a worthy addition or a gimmicky tool for you?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Thanks for tuning in! The dial is great if you work in Clip Studio, it’s the only thing that supports it in the way I want to use it like how I was in the video. I would say not worth it if you work outside of clip. I use it all the time for working in Clip though. The Slim Pen 2 I found to be great and it’s newer tip design allows for much more natural tilt, and I found it to be better all around than the previous generation.

[@pixelpusher1393]

Very good review! A question: Is Intel Iris X graphics sufficient for Photoshop CC? Somewhere on the Adobe website there is a warning/recommendation as to GPU minimum requirements for PS CC, and I believe Intel Iris X stays below those, which means some functionality (like 3D) in PS CC will be unavailable, and overall PS CC may not run as smoothly. On the other side, there are a number of review videos where PS CC is used on devices with Intel Iris X graphics, and I´ve never heard a reviewer say anything negative about hang ups because of it in PS CC. Currently, there are good deals for the MS Surface Pro 8. Given the choice, I´d probably go for more RAM (like the top specced 32gb/1tb) and 11th gen Intel CPU instead of 12th gen Intel CPU with less RAM. For Photoshop, 11th vs 12th gen Intel CPU won´t make any noticeable difference I believe. BTW: Backwards compatibility is amazing. PS and AI CS6 runs without problems under Windows 11, which is good for anyone refusing to get sucked into Creative Cloud. The only thing is that a particular Wintab driver needs to be installed to enable pen pressure sensitivity on MS Surface Pro 8/9 in PS CS6.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Hey, my friend. Yea I would say for the most part it is. Photoshop still does best/preforms fastest with higher power GPU’s, but you’ll be fine with the on board graphics, especially if you go with the higher spec models. Also important to note my GPU scores in the video were not correct there was a bug in geek-bench, don’t know if you caught the pinned comment. The actual scores are much higher at 13-14K and 17K plus on the i7 model. So you should be fine.

[@sanwalaftab8737]

Hi Cladio, Great Review, I have a question, I am game ui ux designer plus sometimes I use aftereffects for some small rendering, not much heavy editing, so surface pro 9 i5 is fine for that, mostly I work on Photoshop and figma. Just looking for budget machine thats why asking about i5 only. Thanks

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Thanks my friend. Well when it comes to after effects it is a software that runs better with a dedicated GPU all around, but for small stuff you may be able to get by. For your other work in PS & FIgma you’d be fine. If you have the budget you might want to check out the new Surface Pro Co Pilot + machines for they are going to be very good systems with great power and long battery life.

[@hhhhhhssss]

What's the name of that device that rotates the view?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Surface dial

[@hhhhhhssss]

@@CladioJulianoArt iis it useful for zbrush?

[@andp4482]

pen tool doesnt work though does it

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@andp4482 I don’t know what you mean

[@tranvantu-6395]

Dear Cladio Juliano, which the mouse you using for draw. i tried to search but can't.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

The Dial? It’s called the Surface Dial. The mouse I used is the Surface Arc touch mouse.

[@kimberlyf6193]

How are you able to install illustrator? When I try it says it's not compatible with my version. I have surface 9 pro. And when I went to adobe they say they support Photoshop on ARM but not illustrator. I really need illustrator to work...I know you haven't been on here in a year, hoping someone knows the answer tho! I've been googling forever! thanks!

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Adobes software only works with Intel chips on Windows and in this review it’s the intel version. You won’t be able to get it to run on a Surface with arm chips for it’s incompatible. If you are in a return period I would return asap and get the intel version. The intel i5 is featured in this video.

[@Eeriekid]

Hi on my galaxy tab the brushes lag whenever i use large brushes. I'm wondering if this device does the same thing when running clip studio paint on the surface? Thinking of switching over to surface if it has better performance

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Hey man the performance is similar. You are probably getting lag due to brush settings, but if you want the very best performance for Clip it would be on an M2 iPad Pro.

[@rana2985]

Is it helpful for medical field majors or should I get an iPad ??

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Hard to say because I’m a creator/artist. What software do you use? What do you plan to use every day with the machine?

[@rana2985]

@@CladioJulianoArt i used to have an hp laptop but now I want something light so I can carry it with me to collage and I can right notes with and attend online classes and do assignments

[@Rexamillius]

Hello I'm thinking of grabbing a pro 9 for christmas what art apps or programs would you recommend for it.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

I’m sorry for the late reply KZbin skipped showing me many comments on this video which I’m just seeing now. I would recommend Clip Studio Paint for drawing for its the best software on the windows side and doesn’t need a lot of power to run.

[@satanaepueri]

Is apple still better for drawing? iPad Air?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

In my opinion yes it is still the best drawing input experience.

[@cienciayfriccion]

yo dibujo 3 horas seguidas y al mismo tiempo grabo el dibujo, ¿se calienta esta tableta?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Depends on what software you use- but yea it would get hot for the most part.

[@bnmnbt567]

Hello. Could you tell me, please, what kind of rotate controller you were using during your video? Thanks.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Called the Surface Dial

[@bnmnbt567]

​@@CladioJulianoArt Thanks a lot. I suppose that I finally found a present idea for my wife🎉😊

[@callummason8367]

Hi friend. It's this device in the 32gb spec model going to keep up with Adobe premiere pro with many transitions and color grading?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

I mean all that will def help, but I’m not sure what the i7 integrated GPU is scoring, and premier tends to run a lot smoother and better with a good GPU. If you use an external GPU definitely, but regardless of the ram it’s the combo of powerful CPU plus GPU that premier likes most.

[@callummason8367]

@Cladio Juliano yeahhh, it is hard to find a lightweight machine for my backpack that can handle what I need. Ipad is great powerwise, but it's ios is soooo restricted. Thanks for the reply.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@callummason8367 iPad Pro plus Luma Fusion is awesome for editing- very powerful. M1 or M2 MacBook Pro also great option especially for video with all of its power, but that depends on if you use that ecosystem etc.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@callummason8367 Hey man wanted to let you know I just found out there was a bug in geek bench that was displaying the incorrect GPU numbers, and the i7 hits over 17K so that’s a nice score! I would have had a different take on the GPU in the video had I known. Just wanted to put that out there.

[@callummason8367]

@Cladio Juliano oh wow, that's a game changer for me. Maybe I will look at getting this version. Thankyou for reaching out friend!

[@brando3802]

I have a huuuge lag when scaling proportional objects, layers, whatever... when using transform tool with alt so that is scales proportional... so much lag that makes photoshop work not possible. does anyone knows why this happenes? i have surface pro 9, 16 gb of ram... everything else works great, drawing etc...just when proportional scale its a total mess...

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@brando3802 Most likely an issue with the integrated graphics. Are you plugged in? If not have to go into high power mode it can help a little, but in my experience PS doesn’t run well on intel integrated graphics outside of basic sketching.

[@brando3802]

@@CladioJulianoArt thanks for the answer. its really bad, I mean its a simple scaling from a center point, its not 3d or anyting. It is slightly better I think when plugged in, but also seems like its a software bug, because it stops proportional and from center scaling and messes up the object as son as I lift a pencil up from a screen.. weird. totally different behavior than on desktop computer.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@brando3802 Yea because the desktop most likely has dedicated graphics which the surface doesn’t have. Go to your performance settings in PS and see if GPU acceleration is turned on, it most likely is turned on though. I wish I could say there was a way to make it work well, but in my experience it’s not really possible.

[@brando3802]

@@CladioJulianoArt hey, well looks like newest version of Photoshop has a problem with scaling. I tried the 2023 version of PS and so far it looks good, no lag when transforming an object/layer.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@brando3802Oh good then it’s probably a bug. I go to that first because in my experience it’s the integrated graphics that usually cause the problems in PS over time, but if a previous version is doing better than I would say probably just a bug.

[@jasonbyun3263]

How's the slim pen 2 experiance compared to surface pro 8? Can you see any noticeable improvements?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Pretty much seemed like exactly the same experience as the Pro 8

[@breeze9248]

what capacity is good for an artist?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

I wouldn’t get any less than 256GIG

[@ask.officio]

Can we add RAM?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Can’t add ram but can upgrade storage.

[@mostafamxs8554]

should I switch from ipad to this device?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

That’s a tough one to answer because I truly do enjoy both and have used both for many years. What kind of work do you do?

[@mostafamxs8554]

@@CladioJulianoArt i draw in high quality and i take notes for college but I hate that i cant download cracked or mod apps, games on the ipad cuz ive been android user for 929356+ years ..

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@mostafamxs8554 I mean for drawing and note taking I’m still giving it to iPad because the experience is very much centered around that when it comes to the pencil, on top of the vast amount of creative software for the platform. There isn’t much you can really crack with a Surface, on top of that it’s def not a gaming machine and for any modern triple A titles. You won’t get the best experience w/integrated graphics for gaming. Also considering the size of modern games and how expensive the storage options are for Surface prob not ideal for that.

[@mostafamxs8554]

@@CladioJulianoArt yep.. thanks

[@joyahub]

Pro 9 SQ3 will solve the battery longevity issue and more than good enough performance to run Clip Studio

[@CladioJulianoArt]

There will be too much compromise there and will have too many compatibility issues. I don’t even think they will keep developing those variants.

[@Name-ot3xw]

If the M1 ipad could run windows, or even MacOS I'd say that was superior, but it can't so surface 9 wins in my book. I had an M1 Ipad, all the power in the world, just can't run the apps that require power.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

I’d say that depends on what software one uses day to day. M series iPad Pro’s use that power in software like Luma Fusion, Final Cut Pro, Procreate, Artstudio Pro, Clip Studio Paint, Logic Pro etc. I still don’t use the iPad Pro myself as a stand alone device, I use it in combo w/ M series MacBook Pro, and I use various windows systems amongst that as well, and my shop is also run through windows.

[@Name-ot3xw]

@@CladioJulianoArt Fair, my use cases lean towards programming, CAD, and maybe games. The decision was made easier given that the surface pro 9 is a straight upgrade to the desktop I had, minus the GPU. Will be investing in an eGPU to close that gap with the money earned from selling the desktop.

[@aboudaymane8195]

Great review

[@AhmadQ.81]

I expected more actually fot the surface 9

[@kenshi389]

Can it run blender smoothly?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Sorry for the late reply KZbin doesn’t show me all the comments sometimes. For blender you’d probably want a more powerful machine with dedicated graphics.

[@Txsuya]

The Suface Pro 8 has a fan too

[@CladioJulianoArt]

See pinned comment

[@bonoshii]

Dream device

[@FcTheSystem]

Its the best review

[@hoffer_moment]

that's 80 whole milliseconds of input delay on those brush strokes on this machine, how can anyone draw like that?? honestly impressed LOL

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Lol nah bro it’s def not that bad the camera can make it look worse. Granted it’s still not on the Apple Pencil or S Pen level.

[@hoffer_moment]

@@CladioJulianoArti measured it with frametimes

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@hoffer_moment It’s not the actual pen you can’t gauge it like that there is software smoothing going on in some of the examples and stabilization. Even the old surface pens operate at 21MS latency and this one is much better. The slim pen 2 is 12MS.

[@hoffer_moment]

@@CladioJulianoArt ok, but i'm merely commenting on the fact that in this video you are drawing at 80ms latency and you're doing a great job, and that is impressive to me. my comment is less about the specs and more about how dumbfounded i am by peoples' ability to do any kind of precision work at such high latencies

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@hoffer_moment Oh lol ok I see. When actually drawing though it didn’t feel bad. Have you drawn digitally? If so what device do you currently use? If not what would you be interested in?

[@Brain_Byte]

why would you hear the fans on a ipad pro with an "ipad" operating system?? Thats like hearing fans on an iphone, the surface pro is a laptop basically. you get the best of both worlds with the surface. The ipad is just on oversized iphone lol

[@CladioJulianoArt]

First off that’s not true, but also not what I said. I was talking about it compared to the M1/M2 MacBook Pro which have fans but run totally silent along with the system staying totally cold to the touch even when pushed, and the iPad which has the same chip runs silent and cold with no fan at all. Lol in 2023 are you really trying to say the iPad is a big iPhone!? That’s just straight up not true. Especially for creators. All good if you don’t like Apples stuff- I use everything so it doesn’t matter to me, but the iPad Pro is not just a useless oversized iPhone, as a creator and hardcore tech person that uses Windows, Android, MacOS, Linux etc I would never use it if that was the case.

[@Brain_Byte]

@@CladioJulianoArt I thought you were comparing the iPad to the surface.. I have used all operating systems as well as a professional graphic designer. The iPad is a big phone to me because it runs ipad Os which it still only runs apps optimized for that operating system all the apps you can basically get on your iphone. If the iPad gets MacOs I'm game. This is all personal opinion/preference no knock to you or your video

[@CladioJulianoArt]

@@Brain_Byte I respect your opinion. I help develop software for iPadOS with Artstudio Pro which is a go to for many digital artists/painters, and the platform offers many other professional pieces of software for art/design that are fully cross platform like the Affinity suite, Clip Studio, and more for video, audio, etc. It’s that combined w/the pencil for why I use the iPad. However I am also a large scale print shop owner of 15 years and the operation is heavily tied into desktop/windows and the creative cloud suite. iPad for me is about getting to do a good chunk of my work on it with its great power, long battery life, and extra portable form. But like I said in the video have used Surface from first generation.

[@Shan_Shah]

galaxy book 360 I'd say is a better 2 in 1 you get the samsung ecosystem and its a better laptop, surface I'd is basically a high rpiced low end budget laptop

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Haven’t got to try it, but I’m sure it’s a good one. Can’t say I disagree when it comes to price.

[@Shan_Shah]

@Cladio Juliano the surface is a rif off and tends to feel sluggish

[@user-vw6bk4pb4l]

​​@@Shan_ShahGalaxy book 360 is too fragile. Display too is thin and cracks easily, same problem all models. Next, heat and battery life keeps getting worse with every new model. Its also overpriced starting 8GB, 256 GB model. These devices have great potential, but too many shortcomings Samsung notes sucks on Galaxy book compared with Galaxy Tab, I used both a lot. Also inking performance is always inconsistent on 2 in 1 devices compared with Tablets. Its a lottery. My galaxy book pen performs poorly close to the bottom of the screen. Seen this with other 2 in 1 devices. Magnets in the laptop or near the laptop affect it. Surface uses different technology and the pen works the same in all apps. Palm rejection also way better than most Windows devices.

[@NerdLink19271955]

I stopped watching the moment I realized that you were comparing the model with Intel i5 instead of comparing the model with i7 which is in fact the competitor of the M1 and M2

[@CladioJulianoArt]

The i7 doesn’t compete with either M1 or M2 in efficiency/battery life or power. Just the truth/facts.

[@marketplayer]

Apple should allow to run slimmed down version of its OS on iPads, it is simply unfair that Microsoft has such a product and Apple doesn't :)

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Different philosophy but the reality is iPadOS is MacOS. It’s the same core and kernel it’s just setup differently. I don’t think we would ever see iPad run macOS, I also don’t think it makes much sense. Surface comes with many trade offs in power/performance and battery life because of what it try’s to do. I think the iPad and Mac are better products as they are without trying to be everything in one product. It’s why they are so good at what they do.

[@JamesWilliam70]

Too small & noisy with weak GPU... If only apple did a full blown OS version @16" - M2 like device I would be in heaven! I'm kind of leaning towards the S8 ultra until anything catches up to a larger sized tablet as my old 1st gen 13" iPad Pro is a little small for drawing also.

[@CladioJulianoArt]

I definitely don’t see Apple ever having MacOS run on iPad. Would I reject it if it happened? No, but I’m of the opinion that when a product tries to do everything it always winds up with compromise which is the case w/Surface. Regardless of M series chips, other compromise would emerge. I draw on the 11” and love it.

[@adiosss-09]

😮

[@CanAslan]

If only this device had Apple Silicon inside...

[@BurakSaricam]

Why?

[@user-vw6bk4pb4l]

​​@@BurakSaricamObviously so it would become a battery life, video editing, web browsing and Photoshop 'beast' whilst not being able to do anything else productive that actually makes x86 the industry standard.

[@inventiveboy69]

hi I have a auestion what is that cylinder thing in your right hand?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

It’s called the surface dial

[@prabhuramselvan]

Whats the device on the right side to rotate ?

[@CladioJulianoArt]

Surface Dial

[@Edd_Talks]

Whats the tool your using on the right to turn the image and zoom? Thanks

[@rebeccacretelkiki9001]

I saw surface dial on another comment