Surface Pro OLED - It's Almost Perfect!

[@MatthewMoniz]

What do you guys think of the Surface Pro OLED?

[@noverians.5945]

Yup, Sound like this is the perfect companion for a corporate life. On my way to the Microsoft website for purchase. Nice review, very informative & enjoyable. Arigatou!!

[@randompotato3122]

Too much expensive

[@MatthewMoniz]

@@noverians.5945 You're very welcome! I'm glad I could help and thanks for your time

[@RobertDunn310]

I think it's a great device, but way too pricey. I would opt for a Surface Laptop instead.

[@rowaystarco]

I have and I love it. There's absolutely "grain" on very white content when you look closely. As I understand it's a mix of the OLED display and the digitizer. But it's not bothering me really, I know others dislike it.

[@manuelmacalinao500]

Probably the best webcam i've seen in a laptop.

[@tristanwalls6266]

HP Spectre x360? 4K Webcam

[@priyanshusharma1812]

​@@tristanwalls6266they could put an 8k webcam and it'll still be hot ass because x86 is just dog with webcams

[@reynoldsbrosky3427]

Probably what's matter isn't the resolution, it's the quality and algorithm itself based on my thought...

[@manuelmacalinao500]

@@reynoldsbrosky3427 yup its all about the sensor, resolution is meaningless nowadays.

[@akhyarrayhka4048]

its the lens

[@bryans8656]

I was an early adopter with the Surface Pro years ago and I like the form factor, but these days I like what I'm seeing with the new Surface laptop.

[@MatthewMoniz]

New surface laptop is great too! Working on the review. Stay tuned.

[@bryans8656]

@@MatthewMoniz Looking forward to it!

[@Johnmims65]

@@MatthewMonizwhat is a better buy the m4 iPad Pro 13 with Magic Keyboard or the surface pro 11 with non Bluetooth Keyboard?

[@cadenchurchill4296]

@@Johnmims65I would go with the Surface if you’re trying to replace a laptop. I love my M1 iPad Pro but there are so many basic things that it can’t do that Windows and macOS can.

[@h1a8]

⁠That's easy. Do you need software that is not available on the iPad? Do you have a capable laptop already? What are you going to use them for? Media consumption, browsing the web, light gaming, etc?

[@kindofanmol]

Microsoft has perfected the laptop-tablet hybrid. This thing rocks.

[@hououinkyouma1458]

I am usng used surface pro 4 16 gb ram 512 ssd version, the only problem with that is the battery drain issue. It randomly dies like crazy

[@SplendidNinja]

Almost, only thing left is to make the pen better for artists and they'll have everything

[@fallinginthed33p]

​@@hououinkyouma1458The SP4 had an issue with batteries that swell and leak. Yours could be having that problem and the battery connector gets randomly disconnected.

[@itsacookie1]

It needs a $500 price cut.

[@williamsolis1]

Just wait a year.

[@tycooperaow]

The base price is $999… He’s saying $2k with add ons

[@fallinginthed33p]

Base model with 16 GB RAM, 256 GB replaceable SSD and a LCD screen is $999. You need to add $100 to $150 for a keyboard cover.

[@koreankorean5645]

@@williamsolis1 ok so if we wait a year orso, where do we buy it for -500$?

[@williamsolis1]

@@koreankorean5645 no where because that's a silly price you're asking

[@rumman_huda]

Now that's a good webcam for sure.

[@shihembetsa]

THAT WEBCAM!!

[@andyH_England]

I use the SQ2 Surface Pro, which is good enough for what I do. That is office stuff, browser work and media consumption. I have the base with 8GB of RAM. I have to use it on performance mode 24/7 so battery life is only about 7-8 hours, but as an ultrabook, it is okay. So, I can imagine these will be great for people like me, though the price will be the deal-breaker for non-Surface Pro hardcore fans.

[@billable1861]

5:30 there are times that my $400 keyboard doesn’t work but overall it’s nice when it decides to work… excuse me wtf?

[@CF542]

When you say, "a little bit cheaper", we're actually talking about hundreds of dollars. The OLED version and the remote keyboard add over $400 to the price

[@nakdickson]

3:10 I'm sorry for yelling at you the other day 😅🙏 you're still one of my favorites.

[@MatthewMoniz]

Im still seeking therapy and have not recovered. Because you yelled at me I have started drinking and have lost my family

[@HoaTran-wb2kc]

@@MatthewMoniz Lol :)))

[@Johnmims65]

@@MatthewMonizwould you recommend the surface laptop 7 13.8 x elite over getting the surface pro 11 lcd with flex keyboard? Main use case is KZbin, Microsoft office, discord calls, email, and web browsing.

[@mohammeds9915]

They need to make a 15 inch version of this thing, and one with the Intel Ultra & Arc chipset.

[@akin242002]

Excellent laptop for traveling consultants or frequent travelers that use lots of Microsoft apps. Examples: Outlook, Word, Excel, and some Python coding. Also, good for some light photo editing. My only issue is the driver issues for apps and old printers.

[@GibsonAyoku]

The camera and mic are awesome

[@AquaticBagpipe]

The fact that you consistently test Valorant, Apex Legends, Fortnite, and League of Legends speaks volumes about your audience demographic.

[@SenselInc]

Thrilled to hear that you love the haptic touchpad, which is powered by Sensel's haptics technology!

[@blaster915]

... You work for them or something??

[@SenselInc]

@@blaster915 Microsoft licenses Sensel’s haptics technology and uses it in their haptic touchpads

[@JasonJones1162]

@@blaster915 It appears that actually might be the company account.

[@SenselInc]

@@blaster915 Microsoft is using Sensel's haptics technology in the Surface Laptop 7 and Surface Pro Flex Keyboard. And yes, I work for Sensel. =)

[@SenselInc]

@@JasonJones1162 Correct!

[@carly200]

camera looks great. the screen door effect is taked about way to little. made me return laptops last year and opt for IPS again.

[@Bizmops]

39w is it an improvement? like before sp11 it uses 65w charger

[@NeelBjorn]

Okay now we need a Studio/Setup tour please 😁

[@reflectionrecon]

Great video Matt, what form do you like more, Pro 11 or SL7

[@MatthewMoniz]

Im torn! Im working on the SL7 review. Stay tuned

[@Chibees]

Doesn't always connect...but when it connects. You should also compare this to "prducts" that doesn't have the issue..

[@aarond7799]

This is my first "laptop" in 12 years, and i have zero regrets. we are finally going in the right direction. this device is the first step to the future of "Mobile PCs." Ball is in your court, Apple M4 Chip.

[@AninoNiKugi]

I'm confused. Why are you talking about the charger only being 39W as if it's like the TDP limit of the SOC and limits the performance? Or am I misunderstanding it? 😅

[@MatthewMoniz]

Usually with a bigger charger you get a higher TDP. The X Elite processors have the capability of hitting 80W that's just not happening with a 39W adapter. I talk about power as I feel its easier for people who don't know what TDP is to understand. Hope that makes sense!

[@liamdaniel8142]

Overall for photo and light video editing would this device be sufficient?

[@michaelihc2452]

The surface pro 11 supports 65-watt fast charging. I think they give us 39 in the box because since the battery life is great, we will probably only charge it overnight, so 39 watt is perfectly fine. Anyway, great review : )

[@MatthewMoniz]

IT supports it but it won't give you anymore performance that's the whole point. Surface Laptop comes with a 65W charger in the box has better performance and its cheaper. Thanks for taking the time to watch it!

[@NTGuides]

I've always seen the surface pro as not being too hot. My surface pro 7+ with the 11th gen i7 stays cool under light loads and when things get heavy, yes it does spin up relatively loud when compared to my MacBook Air. But, one of the benefits, and why I've loved them for so long, is because of the way it's laid out, if I'm doing heavy work on my lap it's not hot enough to burn my skin. IDK this thing looks pretty good tho and I'd get rid of my M2 air for one of these

[@WitchRegen]

I really like these new surface devices. Will definitely be looking into maybe getting a 2nd or 3rd gen X Elite model at some point in the future since I'm still quite happy with my Surface Pro 8.

[@parkay8616]

Hi Matthew, what happens if I hook it up to a Surface Dock or a higher watt charger?

[@sammy_sss]

I was wondering that too. I have a Surface Book 2 charger I use with all my other Surfaces (100w). Wonder if it makes a difference.

[@MatthewMoniz]

nothing same performance.

[@luislhg]

Am I the only use that uses surface devices to code/program? Every review mentions drawing, photoshop, that's all good. But I haven't found one review/channel yet that tested Visual Studio and other developers tools... Specially someone developing apps/websites that are used with Touchscreen (either desktop, mobile app or a webpages), it's very useful to have a powerful touchscreen laptop.

[@MatthewMoniz]

I just dont develop so I only run a mozilla firefox compile test. Let me know exactly what you want me to test and Ill put it in my Surface Laptop review.

[@DraccoonStu]

You might want to check Alex Ziskind's latest video where he goes through the process of setting up a new Surface Laptop for development, including Visual Studio, Python and Docker (although I see one of the chapters is "Oops, Can't do that on an ARM machine). I'm certainly interested in seeing what state the Surface Pro is in once more of the tools I work with are available for it.

[@c2thaj2tha71]

Hey Matthew, i love your content and I've been a subscriber for years! I just had a random thought of commenting my idea of what your personality is like off-camera....nothing serious, just lighthearted fun 😊 I guess that you are the type of person that knows when to have fun and when to be serious, you find it amusing when people say dumb/dogmatic stuff, your favorite color is a shade of purple, and you don't like small talk. Sorry 😅 I'm just a little bored atm so I'm commenting on random tech videos! Maybe this made you laugh! Have a good day!!

[@blurandomnumber]

Re keyboards, here's my tip as a long-time Surface Pro X user. If the stylus is not a must, go with another BT kbd. For instance, Apple's magic kbd gives that apple notebook feel to the Surface Pro. And kbd is the same width as the Surface Pro, which means you can pack it niftily with the Surface Pro when on the go. Needless to say, you can use your BT kbds with any other BT-capable computer in the house. So I always save from Surface Pro keyboards by just not buying them.

[@godboat.]

does the surface magnetically attach to the magic keyboard

[@blurandomnumber]

@@godboat. No, it's always detached. The only kbds the Surface Pro attaches to are the Surface Pro keyboards.

[@TuFacez]

Dude the web cam quality is nuts!

[@adamjohnson9014]

Which version of the surface pro is this? is this the 64 gb of ram? big hard drive? Or something else?

[@LeicaM11]

What are those Surfaces for and why are they so expensive?

[@felipemldias]

It needs to be smaller (10-11"), with smaller bezels. Also no dirty alcantara mesh on the keyboard

[@MrDucatiV4]

$1700 is too expensive for this surface pro! This is a solid $1,200 machine. This high price is only gonna hurt their sales.

[@gabrielcater]

It's $999

[@dujuanjohnson5025]

It’s the add ons that make it expensive. Base 999.99

[@fallinginthed33p]

He's testing the midrange spec level. The base spec is almost as good and it's $999 without a type cover.

[@swissheartydogs]

Kickstand, full Windows 11, OLED touchscreen, ARM with NPU… RIP iPad “Pro”.

[@curlcurllocal]

iPad Pro is only suitable if you are high up enough that you don’t have to do any work at all. And students playing pocket billiards.

[@arjunsuresh29]

A step in the right direction. Finally PCs that could give us all day battery.

[@Roe124]

Hey Matthew Do you have like a review of laptops that you can recommend that are "still good" Like theyre not a lot of brand new student laptops out there that are student friendly budget wise. And I love how clean your videos are.

[@rafehsaleh]

Thanks for the solid review. When using it as a tablet for let’s say watching a full movie or reading and taking notes , would it heat up in my hand?

[@fallinginthed33p]

It barely gets warm unlike previous Surface Pro Intel tablets. It behaves more like the ARM Surface Pro models.

[@Electrobuzz17]

The webcam man... Its insane. I really want microsoft to give it a 65watt support. 39is pretty weird, 65 wouldn't have pushed too much but would have some extra juice for the sudden spike in performance you need.

[@MB-yw7up]

They were trying to make sure it had enough battery because if it had worse battery people would have crucified them for that

[@billymania11]

They really amped the performance and battery life so the teeny charger was necessary.

[@MohSaleh]

What happens if you just attach a more powerful power supply? Or is the performance of the processor locked?

[@fallinginthed33p]

​@@MohSalehThe firmware is probably locked to 39W maximum power draw to avoid it losing battery charge while charging. The old Surface Book had a problem where the charger couldn't deliver enough power during gaming so the battery would lose charge even with the charger running at full rate.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

8'o that webcam is crazy good .....what people were saying about that snapdragon webcam processing is true

[@pangtundure]

I want this because my m16 3060 feels like a Furness to use in silent mode, even with 2.5Ghz with -80mv it heats up like Crazzzy. I want this because the keyboard doesn't heat up and i can type comfortably or use an external keyboard with the cover keyboard detached which takes less space and I don't have to blast the fan just to rest my Palm to type. 1. Programming 2. CS2 120/165 where the screen caps but want Stable rates not 250+ avg and dips down to 70-80-90s when getting naded in smoke ot after 3 people on screen issue with 3060 M16 i9 11 th gen 3. Casually going through story games like Red ded2 , plan to play GTA 6 also. Fps 30-60 not need more than that, happy to have 45 locked 🔐.

[@HeLithium]

This is my dream companion pc!

[@_lisan_al_gaib]

there is usually a sticker underneath the hinged stand

[@christianr.5868]

Emulation is the gaming I plan to be doing on this, it runs dolphin like a dream with that cpu. Can’t wait til ryujinx gets ported to windows on arm

[@saurabhchougule9483]

Could you please review the entry level surface pro lcd variant and compare it with OLED one.

[@pressrepeat2000]

The new M4 iPad also has the OLED grain issue. It’s highly visible in greys specifically. Blacks look great, other colors as well but OLED can’t handle greys due to how OLED pixels create color.

[@guitarkharma]

Hmmm. I’m writing this reply on my M4 iPad Pro and I’m not seeing it. If you actually own one and you are suffering with a screen door effect, then I would say you should return it and get a new one. Should still be under warranty!

[@ertwro]

Yeah, I noted that in my now returned iPad Pro M4. It wasn’t that bad though.

[@cruisertechgt]

M4 iPad Pro also has some oled display issues. I notice some patterns on dark screens though, I’m returning it.

[@CaJaBox]

How much again? 😮

[@DrAugenArzt]

I loved that you reviewed Overwatch until I noticed you were playing Orisa loll

[@dexteradr496]

Hi Matthew! Can you please check if Autocad can run on this? Thanks in advance!

[@chadgoldwasser3774]

But it doesn’t have capability to get photoshop, premiere , illustrator , etc😢

[@fredrickbambino]

you have to be paranoid and activily searching to see that screen door effect

[@ajarnchristian]

the webcam!!! omg so clear

[@seegrow]

Deleting the Surface app fixes the keyboard connectivity issue. No idea why, but it works!

[@MatthewMoniz]

Good to know! will give it a try

[@GearUpind]

Microsoft is doing great by adopting new things Copilot Ai chat gpt, Arm based from Snapdragon and tablet with full blown windows I always thought apple ipad should have MacOS but they always used ipad OS which is Extended version of IOS for Iphones

[@cameronbosch1213]

3:29 Don't play Valorant anyway. Vanguard is a rootkit anyway.

[@mit6089]

anyway

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@mit6089 It is though. And it's cringe quality.

[@alexandrumacovei7174]

Imagine buying a device that costs 1800€ in my country and not being able to use Drive. As a student, unless all the basic apps are working perfectly, I m not interested. I bought the samsung s9 fe and wow that tablet is incredible

[@Zecr]

If only it was cheaper. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[@christianr.5868]

It’ll go down in price in time 👌🏾

[@geminidragonreads]

Does the LCD version have the same camera?

[@ry.j]

given its windows, it won’t be long before price drops so i’ll be waiting for those

[@muhammadalizulfaqar722]

Usually what's the trend of the price drop? Around 6 month?

[@szba98]

$1649 and you get a 39 watt charger AND IT'S STILL A BRICK?😭 Microsoft shame on you. A GaN charger for that wattage would cost like $25. Such a joke

[@christopherng5847]

Go n get one n u will love it.

[@LazaroRodolfoSiamRodriguez]

You can still charge it via USB-C, so get your charger of choice.

[@christopherhaynes8101]

39 watts is slow now 😂😂 Far in the future have I traveled?

[@Nirdaari]

Are you going to make a video about surface laptop 7?

[@MatthewMoniz]

Yup! Working on it

[@cheelee168]

Thanks for confirming the screen has a screen door effect. I have been looking all over the internet to see if mine was faulty and you have proved it is not. I really wanted to like this machine and it is great but I cannot live with the screen. There are some situations where it looks like Windows 95. Keep up the good work ✌️

[@MatthewMoniz]

No problem 👍 Thanks for watching!

[@christianr.5868]

Is it that bad?

[@ScottBoyd]

So not in the X plus?

[@cheelee168]

@@christianr.5868 the screen looks amazing when watching content but I’m a designer and I work on a white screen a lot with text. For this, it looks really bad to me. When you are adjusting some Windows settings (device manager) the screen door makes it looks really dated like there’s not enough colours. I compared the same pdf on my Mac and the Surface and there is no comparison. Mac is sharp and white and Surface simply cannot display white. Such a shame, would have been perfect otherwise.

[@cheelee168]

@@ScottBoyd I’ve got a Surface 9 Pro and I never noticed a problem with the non OLED screen.

[@The-Jay02]

Google Drive doesn't work on it? 😮

[@williamscott850]

I've already ordered one, should be here any day now. I did not realize Google Drive isn't currently supported. Yikes.

[@MatthewMoniz]

Ya its a Google issue. Not a translation problem

[@insioni]

is there any way for this to run android apps (even using emulation)? since this is arm based as well.

[@RamonGuerrero89]

BlueStacks?

[@insioni]

@@RamonGuerrero89 yeah that works for windows x86. But I haven't seen anyone show that it works on windows ARM as well

[@thangchiba]

I bought the Surface Pro OLED this week. There are no performance issues; it is extremely powerful. However, its screen is grainy and looks terrible. Compared to my MacBook OLED, it is unbelievably bad. From my research on Reddit, it appears that everyone has this issue. This means that the OLED product has a problem, but reviewers are either being paid off or are visually impaired and don't notice. It's really sad that no one mentions this horrible screen

[@dannieleung6007]

Yes, i see the demo unit it look like 256 color screen 😅

[@n.a.1397]

Same feeling here. It looked perfect on paper...but feels like watching a tv! Any other good options, 2 in 1?

[@YasinHasan]

thats the best webcam on a laptop/ tablet

[@askaromarov7207]

Does Power BI desktop launch on this device?

[@raito_420]

Personally I just got the surface laptop studio 2 for school bc the form factor is just to good

[@loitersquadX]

Help me yall. I got a samsung s24 plus. Ipad pro m4 11 inch, surface pro 7. And a pc. I need a laptop for school, zoom calls and it needs to be compatible with my phone. The obvious answer would be galaxy laptop. But i was curious which one ? Or would it be smarter to get this surface pro? Also when i take notes i need it to convert to legible text!

[@ertwro]

I’m getting that $999, the keyboard is a kick in the nutz for that price. Eventually. For now just the pen and my already existing usb keyboards.

[@pangtundure]

Does it support USB PD ??

[@Tuansil]

im wondering, hows the effect with thunderbolt egpu function well or not?

[@randompotato3122]

Can you do full comparison against hp specture 360?

[@bharat5194]

Crisp webcam without the stupid notch - take my money MS ❤

[@mrfluffboi547]

How are the speaker?

[@BlackDreadBoy]

I just don't understand the hype with the high price point. Is the portability the main draw to these devices? we all know there are windows laptops that way outperform these glorified tablets for just a little more size and weight which these days is a non issue

[@LuckyNoob34]

The most impressive thing for me was the camera XD it was very good compared to most laptops

[@MatthewMoniz]

The camera is great!

[@Notnow22]

Great review as usual. Regarding battery life, which one drains it faster: LCD ou OLED?

[@lucasmaia8315]

I would assume the LCD, because of the nature of these technologies

[@MatthewMoniz]

Thanks! LCD for sure

[@emo137]

hello sir ,can you install metatrader 5 on this laptop?

[@antonsison1681]

Can you run dota 2 in it?

[@MFMJ]

The M3 Air completely smoking the competition is crazy 😅

[@morries1234]

Please Make a PWM flicking test, and also battery life test

[@MB-yw7up]

Im supporting it its good

[@69memnon69]

my issue with this form factor is how uncomfortable it is when using it on your lap or trying to carry it one handed when you're in a call, with the keyboard flapping about. The usb-c cables that jut out of the side of the display also really trigger me.

[@eljeffe58]

Matthew, what is the program you are drawing on with the Surface Pen in the video? Excellent video! I love my new SP 11 Elite!

[@MatthewMoniz]

Thank you!! It’s OneNote

[@Phrish]

Know of a VPN that will work on this device? I recently purchased the pro 11, but I'm not finding much in the way of vpns with arm64 support. Otherwise I LOVE the 11 pro!!

[@christianr.5868]

Not yet, no drivers yet. But they’ll come

[@soberanisfam1323]

How about anti virus that work with arm?

[@christianr.5868]

@@Phrish nord vpn now works on arm

[@Phrish]

I did discontinue my malwarebytes subscription. However the baked in Windows defender seems to be working just fine. I'll stick with that until there might be some more future choices for malware.

[@jaimepadron8863]

The first gen of Snapdragon Processor is like M1 chips, they were OK but you know what? we are on M4 Gen and they are awesome, they deserve to be bought. I think you should wait for 2 years for Gen3 or Gen4 of Snapdragon processors and then try these surface, still, they are so expensive and overpriced.

[@JustifyJustin]

Fair enough, in an ideal world, but many people, including companies are at their upgrade cycle point and need to buy now. It makes a compelling case all these SDX processor devices... just the compatibility that's a question mark. Hmmm... go safe with Ultra or future proof (potentially) with SDX. Tough choice.

[@lvalentin91]

So you don’t like the Apple Pencil because the iPads glass screen?

[@MatthewMoniz]

I never said i dont like. I just prefer the Slim Pen 2

[@andyH_England]

Strange as most pro digital artists are not overly keen on Microsoft's own pen hardware/software. I suppose each to their own.

[@MatthewMoniz]

@@andyH_England Im not an artist and thats probably why I prefer the Slim Pen 2. I just write. That little haptic vibration is a nice touch. But ya if i was an artist id probably choose an iPad since it has more features and apps.

[@andyH_England]

@@MatthewMoniz Yes, you gotta go with what works best for you.

[@afterworkio]

So u are comparing a tablet witg laptops? Vivobook? MacBook? Really?

[@inamulbhuyan]

Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤

[@avinashrai11141]

Screen door effect. The only thing that kept me away from touch laptops will keep me away from Surface tablet too.

[@cynicist8114]

Not all of them have it. I have the Lenovo Slim 7x, and its OLED touchscreen does not suffer this problem.

[@Aeonikst8]

Does anyone know if this is good with LR ?not classic just LR.

[@JP-qx6ny]

do you think the 32gb ram is necessary?

[@MatthewMoniz]

For this no 16 is fine

[@JP-qx6ny]

@@MatthewMoniz Thanks, great channel and review 👍

[@Dragonblaster1]

I have no trouble charging my 11 with an old 65W Surface charger.

[@samwork4380]

Can it run x86?

[@davidneale530]

Corsair's latest 2230 sized 2TB SSD claims 7000MB/s reads 6200MB/s writes and should fit right in to this. Other recent Surface Pro models were shown to be able to dissipate around 30W so I'm not surprised that a higher wattage adapter only gets you faster charging and not more performance. That being said, the XE80 could give you good benefit in short running tasks rather than long ones. As then it can use more power before the temperature increases. So increasing snappiness and responsiveness rather than on some 30 minute compile. I work a lot on projects that compile in less than 30 seconds so I might see more benefit.