Surface Laptop 7, Snapdragon Elite Overview and Performance Testing

[@paulascholz600]

I bought this laptop for the NPU-acceleration for LLMs, 45 TOPS and the Phi-Silica model. There is an API to submit inference queries directly from Windows applications. All locally on the device, no network, OpenAI or Azure needed. It's a new kind of machine entirely.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

That's way more than I do. The most I would do is Photoshop with AI. But you're right. That's buying the like this. Curious to see the new ryzen and lunar lake

[@DementedView]

This will be an unpopular opinion but as long as its between a M1 and M3 in performance, doesn't get hot doing basic things, has good real life battery life and doesn't feel slow to boot then to me it's living up to expectations. But it def seems the performance could use work. I might wait a few more weeks to see how it fairs before commiting to a purchase.

[@Noodles.FreeUkraine]

Since you asked, World of Warcraft offers a native ARM client for Windows that should run well and might be a great option for testing native gfx performance.

[@King-Julz]

Make sure you test with the best performance preset. This is in the settings app. type battery, sleep and battery settings.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yeah I did that today and getting much better scores. I'm working on a surface pro video. So I'll have updated numbers when that video comes out.

[@jklayup]

Good review! I bought the laptop 7 today. I love touch screens in laptop.

[@williamcopeland2617]

Maybe I missed it, but do you have to 10 core or 12 core chip set? Your numbers look pretty low compared to other Surface Laptop reviews.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

It's the 12 core. My scores do a bit worse than everyone else's because it's hot and humid where I live in Florida. Also, on cinebench I do the 10 minute run which doubles as a thermal test. I'll look at some other videos now that mine are out to compare.

[@Johnmims65]

@@consumertechwarehousewhats the better screen size . Is it worth losing out on the dune and saphire color to get the larger 15” screen. Asking cause i have my saphire 13.8 inch being delivered tomorrow and just seeing if i should exchange it when it arrives for the black 15”

[@sabhanayyoub3615]

And probably also you need to change the energy performance to high instead of balanced. Hope this helps!

[@dmddomingoable]

Did you buy this at the Microsoft Store? How many gigs is the memory? Can you open the laptop and upgrade the memory and/or the ssd? Thank you.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Memory isn't upgradable. I believe it's integrated into the chip like how Mac does. I heard you can upgrade the SSD but it voids your warranty

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Oh and bought it at Best buy.

[@dmddomingoable]

@@consumertechwarehouseThat's helpful info. I'm doing apps development on virtual machines so considering the 64gb that's only available at Microsoft. Great that the SSD can be user upgraded. Thank you.

[@stachujones7820]

​@consumertechwarehouse I'm pretty sure upgrading the ssd does not void warranty.

[@consumertechwarehouse]

@@stachujones7820 it doesn't on most other laptops. But I remember PC World mentioning it when they were at Computex. It's up to the manufacturer to determine what voids warranty or not.

[@user-bz5io6ph8w]

Can you talk about the AI features and other programs such as Adobe or video editing

[@pcgaming6906]

Thanks for review, can this do virtualisation like VMware workstation or VirtualBox?

[@IDKOKIDK]

Very good review!

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Thanks!

[@sirsilva7079]

Multi-core processing does not matter for music production, single-core does!

[@kurbasw8]

It's better than m2 just behind m3 and m4

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Good to know. I don't know why I said that. My music production experience is only on GarageBand with never more than a few tracks. I should have cut that little segment out.

[@HaseebAhmadKhattak]

The chip is comparable to Macbook Air M3 not the M3 pro and M3 max!

[@consumertechwarehouse]

But the thing is though, the m4 destroys it either way. I want the best for windows. So hopefully Intel and AMD can catch up while still being efficient. Can't wait to test tnose

[@HaseebAhmadKhattak]

@@consumertechwarehouse It will catch up eventually as it has already catched up with M3 chip even 15% faster than it let qualcom bake the chip a bit more and let the app optimize and driver and firmware updates it will be a smooth ride plus apple has shifted to Silicon for what now almost 4 years now so Qualcom did a great job I think on their first try

[@christianr.5868]

@@consumertechwarehouseeh, unfortunately there will never be an m4 2 in 1

[@deadworms]

can you test if google play games beta works on windows on ARM

[@BravePJMaster]

Are all of the benchmarking software you used natively running on ARM?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Yes! I only ran benchmarks that support ARM

[@AllTimeTech12]

Are you excited for linux support?

[@lukdev1183]

No

[@aashishnakarmi1690]

How are the speakers? Do they have bass?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Speakers are adequate. A bit lacking in bass. I thought they were pretty good until I heard the surface pro 11

[@aashishnakarmi1690]

​@@consumertechwarehouse So the surface pro tablet has better speaker than the laptop?

[@user-bz5io6ph8w]

2:30 I really hate the glossy screens, I think they do this because it's a touch screen, which is another useless feature for a laptop

[@ljlacierda8358]

Having lived with a touchscreen laptop for about 8 years, I realize that touchscreens complement the trackpad for a quicker workflow. I'm in the market for a new laptop and a touchscreen is a must-have.

[@Chikachica21]

@@ljlacierda8358right I kinda multitask with the touch screen so it is most def a must have

[@moviesynopsis001]

Does it have vents that can be blocked on a bed?

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Nope it doesn't. And I mentioned that half way through the video. Glad you asked that question though. I complain about that a lot on non gaming laptops.

[@moviesynopsis001]

@@consumertechwarehouse How do you find the trackpad compared to macbook air? Also can them back vents be blocked while on a bed?

[@asdqqq846]

I just got my Surface Laptop today and while I am overall quite happy with it one thing bugs me alot. When i scroll with two fingers on the touchpad and lift them up usually on other devices (both macbook and other windows laptops) the page usually scrolls a bit further. On the new Surface Laptop the scrolling basically immediately stops which feeld super harsh. If i flick really fast, or make a long movement on the touchpad it often times scrolls further after i lift my finger. It kid of feels like there is a threshold in terms of length your fingers moved or speed the fingers have to move to continue scrolling after lifting the fingers. Did you notice something similar?

[@asdqqq846]

I just tested that further it feels like it is actually the physical distance if i just "flick" my fingers fast it basically stops immediately while when i swipe a bit longer no matter if slow or fast i can see the scrolling continues after my fingers leave the touchpad. Depending on the speed it scrolls only a short amount or quite far. But when i just flick my fingers slow/quick the moment my fingers leave the touchpad the scrolling stops when the distance my fingers moved was under 1cm (or so)

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Those are just differences between MacBook trackpad and windows. There's more polish to the Mac. But I turn off mouse acceleration and tweak the settings in terms of sensitivity. But scrolling just isn't as good. Hopefully you get used to it. It took me some time and it doesn't bother me anymore

[@asdqqq846]

@@consumertechwarehouse Also compared to other Windows laptops (Huawei Matebook 13s and HP Z Book) and as far as I remember all other laptops I ever used, the scrolling was just different. And I dont like it at all with the new Surface Laptop. The haptic touchpad was one of the biggest selling point for me. I prefer Microsoft Precision Touchpad drivers in terms of customisation and also in terms of the gestures it supports, but the scrolling on the new Surface Laptop 7 is just not pleasant :( Its surely a driver thing with these new sensel haptic touchpads and I assume the Microsoft Surface Studio Laptop has the same behaviour as it also has a sensel touchpad.

[@asdqqq846]

​@@consumertechwarehouse My other response got deleted i guess, so here again: I also tested current windows laptops (work laptop HP Z Book and my "old" Huawei Matebook 13s) and both have the scrolling how I "know" it and very similar to the Macbook. So it is definately not a Mac is better thing. I am quite confident its a issue with the new sensel haptic touchpads Microsoft used on those laptops. The Surface Studio Laptop probably has the same scroll behaviour. I will definately test that out at a store. And maybe they also have some other Snapdragon X Elite notebooks or a Surface Laptop 7 in display to test out.

[@Orwah]

Nicee

[@Techzima]

Its not a gaming laptop tho

[@consumertechwarehouse]

It's not. My biggest audience is gaming laptop videos so I was speaking to that crowd. But looks like this video got a lot more attention outside of my core audience.

[@alexs.5107]

Your comparisons were off and very misleading. You were comparing non equivalent products/ devices

[@consumertechwarehouse]

If you're talking about the 3DMark tests those are rendered in Vulkan. So it's a good representation on how each platform measures those. For the other benchmarks it's just meant to give an idea of what's out there. They're all running the same benchmark on their perspective platforms.

[@MrZakarias01]

First

[@consumertechwarehouse]

Appreciate being first! Nice job! 👍

[@ИванДудник-у5в]

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