Surfboard Shaping [2 of 2] Rail Bands and Bottom Contours

[@mrfelipehurtado]

Please keep making videos, your editing and style is on point, great work!!!

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks for the feedback man, will do!

[@TravisWhiteTribe]

Love your work and great videos too 🏄🏻‍♂🤙🏄🏻‍♂🤙 Your use of geometry and tools to setup accurate lines n contours is spot on 👏👏👏🎸🎸🎸Keep the videos coming 👍

[@benskai2475akurfishing]

really genius, really deserves to be given aplos and 2 thumbs up for seniors

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks!

[@tommcnatt6170]

Great job. I'm starting my second hand build later this month. I appreciate you sharing what you've learned. I pick up more watching people who are still on the learning curve. Keep it up!

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks man glad it helps 🤙

[@benskai2475akurfishing]

I love the way the surfboard works so neatly

[@marcelosrocha]

Muita Paz, Amor e Fé! Por ser um praticante de surf desde 1988, minha admiração por vocês shappers é grande! Abraços, Sucesso, Deus abençoe sua vida. Mahalo.

[@C5RC]

I am so happy I found your Channel I wanted to find a shaper on KZbin and here you are! Lol this brings back memories of when I was a kid watching Juan the owner of Western Flyer shape boreds. my dad was really good friends with him. I have a board he made that is 2 of 5 that he did for him and a few of his friends called the Siesta Key Edition its a 6'x2' noserider ill never get rid of it as long as I live

[@C5RC]

Correction Juan owned "one world" not western flyer 🤣

[@BendheimBoards]

Rad! Glad to bring back some good memories! 🤙

[@danielromero747]

Loved this shape !

[@alexrowe3501]

Your a good shaper! Like your videos.

[@Rich2487]

Hey! I'm just made my first surfboard and all your videos have been very helpful for many doubts I had. Keep the great work. Cheers from Uruguay.

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks glad to hear it! I lived in Santana Do Livramento, Brazil for 6 months which was on the boarder of Rivera, Uruguay. I’d visit Uruguay on my days off and loved it. 🤙

[@Rich2487]

@@BendheimBoards Yeah, I've heard of Santana Do Livramento but never been there. I recently moved to Punta del Diablo that's 40km from the border of Uruguay and Brazil (Chuy). You probably heard of it. Decent surf all around this area. Keep shaping and surfing and posting these great videos. Cheers!!!

[@christianwotstit2u803]

Having snapped my board in Uluwatu yesterday, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this . Great work 👍🏼

[@BendheimBoards]

Bummer man! But I’m still jealous your over there. Thanks for watching 🤙

[@lucasaoki415]

Incrível !! Congratulations from Brazil! Great work

[@BendheimBoards]

Obrigado cara!

[@Bolones80]

NICE Tanner!, im about to use some savings to start shaping my first board. Thanks for sharing your knowledge mate, awesome.

[@BendheimBoards]

You bet! Good luck on your first board!

[@adamclennar6492]

Hell yea man - huge fan of the channel keep it up. I just shaped my second board which was a retro single fin with a diamond tail - cheers for the inspiration

[@BendheimBoards]

That’s awesome! And thanks for the feedback!

[@lukagaspersic8082]

This is just awesome and satisfying to watch.

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks glad to hear it 🤙

[@wolfhawaii1]

Nicely done, the planer got a bit hungry on the concave, but good recovery.....you may want to do a final plane pass on the stringer after final sanding just to make sure it is not a high spot in the glass, to minimize sanding issues. I did around 750 mostly longboard shapes in Hawaii in the 90s and early 2000s, got the urge to make myself a couple of new ones.

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks that’s good advice. I’m still learning so I love hearing from other shapers. 🤙

[@KawikaDowney]

i love it !

[@jonnyh7936]

What a great little shaping bay you made with a tunnel tent ? Thanks for the vid ... very helpful

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks it’s a greenhouse

[@joshuadathsbc5765]

really loving your videos keep it up!

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks man 🤙

[@lugocota8292]

Looks awesome! You should try lowering your side lights so they're 5 or 6 Inches above your shaping racks. It will make a massive difference. 🤙

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks maybe I’ll play around with them a little.

[@ronin7183]

Masterclass!

[@BendheimBoards]

Haha thanks 🤙

[@shanec8224]

Loving that pencil tool that you mark your rail bands with... can you tell us where to get one of those?

[@BendheimBoards]

From Foam EZ

[@jorgetapialara7837]

Puedo usar cepillo en poliestireno (eps)? Muy agradecido por la enseñanza, lejos es el mejor video. Sería genial que hicieras uno shaping en eps.

[@BendheimBoards]

I prefer PU blanks but maybe one day down the road I’ll shape an EPS blank.

[@patmunnia9659]

clean and awesome. What kind of pencil? I tried three and couldn't leave a mark...

[@BendheimBoards]

I like a #9 pencil. If your using eps foam, try a sharpie

[@patmunnia9659]

@@BendheimBoards cool man, thanks!

[@birabito5701]

Teacher, your class is amazing! Is the bottom deck line measured as far inside? Thanks!

[@coltonmaihen1884]

When measuring out your rails, how do you get those numbers and calculations so you know where to draw the lines and such? Additionally, what is that tool called that allows you to draw the lines the same length

[@BendheimBoards]

It’s a rail marking gauge from Foam EZ. Greenlight surf supply has graphs with rail and deck marks you can use.

[@marie-clairewhite9046]

Great video Bendheim Boards just wondering where to buy the tool that holds your pencil to run the rail bands onto blank?

[@BendheimBoards]

Got the rail marker it from Foam EZ. It’s in my giveaway bundle next week if you sign up on my website listed in the video description 👍

[@DjNevoBOffical]

Heelo amizing work , i wated to ask you if i want to start shape how can i choose my dimensions for shortboard

[@BendheimBoards]

Find a board you like and try to replicate the dimensions. You can use blendingcurves for a good outline template.

[@andrewrourke1112]

How do you feel those bottom concaves worked out? Does it allow you to paddle well

[@BendheimBoards]

Yes it paddles and rides great. Gets into waves early and draws fun lines. Love riding this board

[@andrewrourke1112]

@@BendheimBoards thanks! Looks like a fun board

[@gonzaloahumada3630]

Hey Tanner, thank you so much for the video and knowledge shared. i saw that the rails style or type you did is 60/40 but im not sure how to measure or get the type of rail done. how do you know the measurements for the rails?

[@BendheimBoards]

This website talks all about it and gives sample measurements that should help get you started: greenlightsurfsupply.com/pages/surfboard-building-guide-page-2 Good luck!

[@francolujan4265]

Fine job mister! 🤙

[@robertfioresi7547]

Where did you get the tool to draw the lines ??

[@BendheimBoards]

I bought it at FoamEZ. They sell it on their website as well if your not in SoCal. 👍

[@robertfioresi7547]

Thank you

[@vandecasteeletheo8249]

Hi tanner! Any advice on how would you do 50/50 rails? I kinda don’t know how to do this....

[@BendheimBoards]

The middle of your rail is the apex and the rail bands are the same measurements on the top and bottom of the board. Checkout Greenlight’s website that has lots of measurement info for rail bands.

[@raydenagura3400]

What is the best sand paper for shaping?

[@BendheimBoards]

I’ve used lots of different brands and don’t have a specific one. Indasa WhiteLine seems to be one suppliers sell.

[@anon8730]

Awesome stuff. Where did you get the pensil tool from or made it yourself??

[@BendheimBoards]

Rail gauge from Foam EZ

[@lachlanmurphy763]

Really helpful video, just wondering what grit sandpaper did you use?

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks, 80 grit

[@lachlanmurphy763]

@@BendheimBoards cheers 👍

[@andrewfox6748]

Did you use a template for the shape of the board as well as the rail measurements?

[@BendheimBoards]

Just for the outline of the board 🤙

[@rockymacallister2581]

How did you decide how much rocker to have?

[@BendheimBoards]

Just compared and measured with other boards I wanted to get a similar rocker to

[@ExpandYourHorizonz]

When drawing your rail marks, what do you do on the tail and nose of the board when the thickness foils out? (It looks like the deck marks you did nose to tail?) And for the tuck, do you stop it a certain distance from the tail in order to maintain the hard bottom edge of the rail? Thanks for these videos, they rock!!!

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks man! Great question. You have to gradually taper your rail marks to follow the thickness of the board. So my rail lines on the tail and nose are narrower - especially the nose. I mostly just eyeball it and freehand draw it rather than measuring it on the nose and tail. You are correct about the the tail edge. I mark where I want my hard edge to begin on both sides so my tuck line doesn't sand into it and then just make a gradual transition from the rail to the hard edge.

[@ExpandYourHorizonz]

@@BendheimBoards thanks for your answer, definitely helps! Last board I botched the rails so this next one I'm gonna try utilizing these techniques!

[@BendheimBoards]

Best of luck!

[@kmalraja4207]

WOW TOP surfer 🤙🤙🌊🌊🤙🤙🤙🏄‍♂️🏄‍♂️🌊🌊🤙🤙🤙

[@raydenagura3400]

What kind of planner is that and how much did you buy it for?

[@BendheimBoards]

WEN electric planer from Home Depot. $42

[@raydenagura3400]

@@BendheimBoards sick I was going to buy the modified one but it was too expensive

[@Sandiego61999]

Can anyone tell me what that pencil holder is called I’m aware he probably made that one and I’d be willing to do the same but what is the pencil held by

[@BendheimBoards]

Marking gauge: www.foamez.com/product/e-z-marking-gauge/

[@offthewallsurfer1]

I’m a little late, but I’m loving these videos. I’d love to get into shaping, as I’m jack of all trades kinda guy. Any “beginner essentials kit” you’d recommend, and what grit sandpaper are you using to hand sand the rails? Than you for your time and the videos. Great work!

[@BendheimBoards]

Checkout Greenlight in the video description. They have shaping kits. 80 grit sandpaper for shaping

[@RobertoChong]

Amazing stuff! How long it takes you to finish a surfboard including the shaping and glassing?

[@BendheimBoards]

Takes a long time, filming these videos really slows the process.

[@leonidskoptsov1101]

Tanner, what kind of ruler do u use?

[@BendheimBoards]

I use a marking gauge: www.foamez.com/product/e-z-marking-gauge/ , transparent centering ruler and a L-square ruler.

[@leonidskoptsov1101]

Tanner Bendheim ok, I founded it. Thanks for your response and vids🙌🏽

[@worstenbreaud]

Hey Tanner, I've watched your videos and shaped a few boards. I'm still struggling to understand the bottom tuck part, especially when using the greenlight charts because they use tucks like 3/4".. but if I measure and cut off 3/4" that's quite a big chunk and my rail will end up ridiculous 😂 what measurement do you use for the bottom tuck and how does it differ on short/longs

[@BendheimBoards]

It just depends on how boxy or knifey you want your rails to look. I usually try to keep a 1/4" untouched band around the outline of the board from the first rail mark down to preserve the outline before screening my rails. Yes, 3/4" is a very thick cut, I'd usually start around 1/4" tuck and then go off feel under your arm to make any further adjustments.

[@kylesullivan6837]

What tail type is this? And how much of a gap did leave between your first rail line and second?

[@BendheimBoards]

Round tail. First line I believe was 2” and second line 4” from outline.

[@lorenzocanlas5253]

Thanks for sharing this! A few questions: 1) approximately where did you mark the end of the concave with a pencil, and how much further before you start the vee? 2) do you measure the depth of concave or vee? Thanks!

[@BendheimBoards]

I just eyeball it. I overlap my single concave into a double and then to a vee at the tail. Depth between 1/8-3/16. Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGLFgmmMbNSrors or these instructions might help: greenlightsurfsupply.com/pages/surfboard-building-guide-page-2

[@chrisomahony851]

Tanner, awesome videos man, super helpful. Might be dumb question, but what is/ how does one craft on of the pencil set ups you got? Did you have to make yourself or is there some sort of follow along to DIY one? Either way, keep making content!

[@BendheimBoards]

There’s no dumb questions man! Here is what I used: Marking gauge: www.foamez.com/product/e-z-marking-gauge/ you can make your own out of scrap foam. Hard to explain but you basically make an L shaped piece of foam and punch the pencil through the top of the upside down L. Hope that helps.

[@jacobmirels9073]

Sick video man! What were your nose, center and tail measurements?

[@BendheimBoards]

14.5” 20.5” and 15”. It’s a blending curves template

[@jacobmirels9073]

@@BendheimBoards right on man! That tail looks wider than 14.5" but its probably just an optical illusion from the outline. You ever put a Vee bottom on a short board?

[@BendheimBoards]

@@jacobmirels9073 Nose is 14.5" and tail is 15" sorry, should have specified. Yeah, this board I did single concave, to double and vee out the tail. Wanted the vee with the single fin setup.

[@tonybeatbutcher]

Some good shaping !! Where did you got that shaper-bay tent from?

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks man, it’s a walk in green house from Amazon

[@tonybeatbutcher]

@@BendheimBoards haa thanx gonna check that !!!

[@IrieMitch]

This thing came out looking really nice. How has it beens surfing for you? Where do you like to ride it?

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks, I just finished glassing it so I haven’t had a chance to take it out yet. It will be my first single fin shortboard. I’ll be trying it around Newport and Huntington and maybe some sessions Trestles. Excited to try it out!

[@Battsboards]

What grits of sand do you use for each step?

[@wettsoggynoodles]

hey!! i really love your videos and i feel like i’ve learned more from watching your videos compared to the ones where they explain what they’re doing since yours is so straight to the point. i’m looking to shape my first board soon and was wondering where you got that tool you use to draw the lines ?

[@BendheimBoards]

Rail marking gauge from foam ez

[@prasannakumar9838]

Well you are doing amazing. Can you send me sizes please

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks! They are listed in the video description

[@prasannakumar9838]

@@BendheimBoards thank you

[@jacksaveall7640]

I followed you on Instagram... I want to get into this because I love surfing and this looks like something I would really enjoy... for foam blanks I was looking at Marko foam, is there another brand I should use?? also do I need the custom electric planer, or could I just find one on amazon and it would work.

[@BendheimBoards]

Awesome, thanks for the support! I use US Blanks, but Marko foam is just as good. If your worried about cost, I would start with hand sanding for your first board. Its a lot more work, but less room to make mistakes when hand sanding. The WEN planer I have was only $42 from home depot. Its not as good as the others, but I do a low volume of boards and it gets the job done.

[@vandecasteeletheo8249]

Hey man, always good to see your videos. Questions for you, where did you learn to shape? Did you learn alone? Do you have any tips or how can I find advice to shape my own? Appreciate mate!

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks! I’m mostly self taught and learned through research online and watching videos on KZbin. I took one class from a shaper as well. Check out the links in my video description for a few helpful references. It would be great to learn under a shaper but I didn’t have that luxury. You can also ask questions at the supply shops you buy your materials from. The more boards you make the more comfortable you become. Good luck!

[@stephenvarney334]

Where did you get the pencil holder or is it home made?

[@rodrigoboro]

Mto legal!!!

[@BendheimBoards]

Obrigado tchê!

[@marciojoffily]

Great video! Thanks for sharing! How long does it take you to complete one board from start to finish... roughly?

[@lifeonedge4130]

what are the dimensions on the board u made?

[@lifeonedge4130]

and how did u make that cardboard cutout in the last vid

[@BendheimBoards]

The board info is in the video description

[@BendheimBoards]

Watch my other video on how to make a surfboard template that explains it

[@lifeonedge4130]

@@BendheimBoards just saw it, thank u, planning on shaping my first board soon

[@BendheimBoards]

Right on man, best of luck!

[@DCJiuJitsuGeelong]

clean

[@snwjy]

Is that styrofoam.?

[@BendheimBoards]

Polyurethane foam

[@kylesullivan6837]

How far from the rail did you draw the line on the bottom of the board?

[@BendheimBoards]

I think the tuck lines were 3/4”

[@kylesullivan6837]

What rail type?

[@BendheimBoards]

60/40

[@jamesleigh7104]

So cool Bru! Next level. Did you keep dividing the rail contours in 2? Is that how you knew where to draw those lines?

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks! My rail mark was 1.25”, deck marks were 2” and 4”, tuck was 1/2”. After that, yes I just keep dividing them in half and can freehand draw the lines by just eyeballing it.

[@beccawilson7712]

hey tanner great video, very helpful. curious, where did you get the pencil scribe tool to draw the rail bands?

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks, here is the link - Marking gauge: www.foamez.com/product/e-z-marking-gauge/

[@ethanhazlett666]

Awesome video, did you make the tool to draw your rail bands?

[@BendheimBoards]

Thanks man, here’s what I used - Marking gauge: www.foamez.com/product/e-z-marking-gauge/