JS "Black Baron 2 1" Surfboard Review Ep 138

In this episode, Noel Salas reviews the JS Black Baron 2.1. He meets up with Brent Riley in Oceanside, California at the JS U.S. headquarters to get the ins and outs of what was behind the design of the new Black Baron 2.1 -- one of the newest "twins" in the JS lineup. This special surfboard falls somewhere between the OG Black Baron, which was a favorite of Noel's and JS's first twin fin, and a small wave groveler. The center box was added, so you can change the fin set ups and customize how you want the board to feel underfoot. Noel went for a 5'6 for that punchy beach break and a 5'5 for his wave pool board. He says he had no problem linking turns with his Surf n' Show Twin Plus Trailer fin set up. The tapered rail engages and is a bit more high performance than the original. Noel and Brent dive deeper on the surfboard contours, the special H-Fi EPS construction and more. Ian Wooly Macpherson describes the Black Baron 2.1 as super-fast with excellent drive and hold. Asa Cascavilla gives some tips on how to ride this board, Noel shares the best fin set ups in both Futures and FCS twins. Enjoy!
Noel's height 5'9" and weight 170 lb
Board DIMS:
Waco Surf Board: 5'5" x 19 x 2 7/16 (25.8L)
Ocean Board: 5'6" x 19 1/8 x 2 1/2 (26.9L)
Brent Reilly height 5'7" and weight 155 lb
Board DIMS: 5'5" x 19 x 2 7/16 (25.8L)
Asa's Height 5'10" and weight 165 lb
Waco Surf Board: 5'5" x 19 x 2 7/16 (25.8L)
Ian's height 6'1" and weight 195 lb
Board DIMS: 5'11" x 20 x 2 13/16 (34.2L)

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

www.surfer.com/surf-n-show/js-black-baron-2-1-surfboard-review

[@jamescollingham9172]

The Wooly sections add so much to and compliment your reviews. The bigger guy in different waves and your technical breakdown. Much easier to consider how a board will size up / size down having those two reference points. Awesome

[@WoolyTV]

🙏

[@jonkennard8272]

Great review Noel really like the co-lab reviews to.i think it helps getting a better overall review. Hot off the press to only been out a matter of hours 🤙thanks as always

[@27AUSSIECHAMP]

I feel like one day I'm going to watch one of your reviews and you'll say your stock dims are 4"0 , 12" x 1" . And your step up is 5"0 at 22 litres. Very few people on the planet can relate to surfing boards the size you do. 😂. Even Medina surfs more volume than you 😂. Fan of the show 👏 🙌 Every time I watch your vids I say out loud "grab your favourite drink" 😊. Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Most pros ride more volume compared to me. They also ride longer boards… it’s a preference right. When I surfed on your back in the late 90’s I rode 6’0” x 18.5 x 2 1/4 thick… I’m not into longer board anymore and I like my boards ultra sensitive. Thanks for supporting our show!! Cheers

[@lasse4854]

Hey, Have you surfed the Baron 2.0? Can you compare it, especially it looks like that it’s better in bigger waves however loses a bit on smaller days. By any chance could you also compare the baron to the hypto twin and where you would see the differences?

[@samw2768]

I have been a js fan since early 2000s got a fly boy model from back then that's still a killer board. Just got a carbotune xero gravity and it's insane. It's so good I bought another in hyfi 2 and it's killer as well. Jason has always made some of the best boards on the planet. Will there be a xero gravity review coming? Keep up the awesome reviews

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Stoked to hear your JS boards are going mental. Not sure yet on that model. I got the JS Flame Fish and it’s super fun too.

[@samw2768]

​@@surfnshowreviews7777 Definitely need to look into the xero gravity it's a killer board.

[@jeffe.3453]

I would love to see a review on the Flame Fish and Sub Xero. Thinking about getting one of them next.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@jeffe.3453 Flame Fish review is coming soon

[@FrankTankFlinns]

Great VID....lov me JS sticks....

[@geoffreymccann2841]

The MF fins have that thruster feel in other 2x1 boards as well I have aboard that i ride with MRs most of the time and if I want that thruster feel I throw the MF fins in.

[@catinthehat8412]

i need to win the lottery to buy all the boards 🤣

[@user-gs1sx5qp3d]

Hey noel, how would you recommend standing on those kind of boards? I feel like placing the back foot all the way back on the grip makes the board lose a bit of control since there's not enough resistance from the small trailer, and placing the back foot just above the twin fins makes the board go better.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Surf with your foot up a bit. I personally like my boards ultra sensitive

[@chrro466]

I’m going to wait for the black baron 8.8 they’ll have it perfect by then 🙄

[@Undergroundffn]

Awesome vid as always noel the burning question is would you rather this board or the cali twin fin 🤙?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Cali Twin is my preference

[@esdubya]

Great work Noel! Would like your thoughts as a comparison and differences of the bb2.1 vs the sharpeye twin turbo twin +1

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Twin Turbo is faster and maneuvers in the pocket more like a small wave performance board with a Twin Turbo+ Trailer set up. The BB2.1 will carve better in bigger waves as it seems to have a little more rocker.

[@esdubya]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 awesome thanks for your input and response mate.👍🏽

[@esdubya]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 It’d be so sick if you brought back surfboard wars for those two boards

[@john_rocks_jax]

How would you compare this to the haydenshapes misc?

[@bradhulcombe3669]

Great review Noel and Wooly! Where would you put this vs RNF 96 vs FW seaside ? Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

The 96 has a wider outline… that makes the 96 a better paddler and a little more user friendly. The BB2.1 will draw sharper lines due to its outline

[@bradhulcombe3669]

Thanks ! Do you think the outline of the 96 allows it to still work in the longer lengths ? I’d be considering a 6’ board at 38L ( I have mini ghost @33.6L and DHD phoenix at 36.5L) . Thanks !

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@bradhulcombe3669 Why are you getting so much volume on the 96?

[@bradhulcombe3669]

@@surfnshowreviews7777 Well im 87kg and 57 years old . Struggle at point break a bit for volume when it’s crowded . So was thinking of going for a board around 37 + L range . My mini ghost is good on good surf overhead days for me . The Dhd is better volume for days I’m not fighting for waves but wanted a board with a bit more pulled in tail for hold ….

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@bradhulcombe3669 Yes, the 96 will go good in the bigger dims for your crowded point breaks

[@Clagyyy]

Hi, for the next board test, could you do the sharpeye Synergy plz ;)

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

I don’t have plans to review that board at this time. Maybe in the near future

[@guitaoud]

Hi Noel. Planning to do a review on the ci 2 pro? Really want to see that.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Not at this time. The CI Pro 2 and other HPSB’s like it have too much rocker. They need a real wave with some power to be in their element. Most HPSB’s the tour guys are surfing are not that user friendly and for them to go good you have to use your rails to get them going. Not sure the majority of our community will benefit from these types of boards compared to boards with less rocker that have get up n go speed.

[@guitaoud]

Thanks for answering, that makes sense. If you had to pick one board for CI which would be the most all-round and which covers the most conditions, what would that be? I live in France in les Landes near Hossegor and we only have beach breaks with fairly fast waves.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

Happy Everyday is very versatile and user friendly. It will go good in your waves

[@omri3385]

Black baron 2.1 or bv2 for 3-6 foot wavers.

[@gilbehar9348]

Hi ,great review Can you compare the js 2.1 Vs rnf 96 vs g skate by ci ?

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

96 and G skate are hybrid… wide nose outlines. This BB2.1 offers a bit more performance in the pocket. More rail line and tighter turns in the pocket.

[@foromnii]

Hey Noel, your recent reviews have helped so many people on buying. , I liked the last Q and your answers re, 2.1/Skate and RNF. Your reviews are certainly suited to youngish rippers,multiple turns. Q, I’m 60yrs surf ok, I have found I like around 42ltrs ( no laughing 😮) and around 6’4 length, basically surf 2-3 beach. Like bigger waves when on, What would be my one board quiver in 6’4 length. RNF 96/ G skate or JS 2.1 I’m just an old dog that wants to have a fun 6-10 wave session in an hour and a half surf in Sydney crowed surf. Thanks

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@foromnii I say 96… easy to shred and cruise. Paddles good and it goes good in all types of waves.

[@eyalpolishook6486]

both you and wooly looked better on the holy hypto..☝️🐬

[@NikolasDavies]

Hey Guys, I am a 62kg surfer at 6 foot and i'm 16, I normally surf beach breaks and the occasional powerful point beak on the east coast of Australia, I am looking for fins that will give me some release as well as having some drive, I would also like to have some speed. I am not sure what fin to choose, can you please help me pick an FCS 2 tri fin set please.

[@rogeh5843]

Get the Kolohe andino fins. they hold enough for you to drive yourself through turns but when you come off the bottom the tip of the fin will always release in a predictable fashion. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@MH_347]

The hipster virus is coming for you Wooly

[@WoolyTV]

🤣

[@gkokonut3569]

Doesn’t mater what board this guy rides he surfs the same on every board all bottom turn and throws no spray super cringe to watch 👎🏼

[@holymackeral23]

Come on man if you are going to be a child and entertain yourself by trolling people you don't know on the internet at least say something that has a little bit of truth to it.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@holymackeral23 Maybe it’s time for you to start your own review channel. Or maybe just stop watching ours.

[@holymackeral23]

​@surfnshowreviews7777 was that supposed to be directed at the guy who originally made the comment? I was trying to defend you haha

[@MH_347]

But Noel surfs better than 99% of all surfers in the world.

[@surfnshowreviews7777]

@@holymackeral23 Sorry.. my comment was directed towards the guy who originally complained about my surfing.