Surgical slip-up reveals itself

Have you navigated a situation where timing was everything, just like Burke's revelation? Share your experiences about when to wield the power of information!
#GreysAnatomy #HospitalScandals #Shorts

[@blj824621]

That’s why we do a count before and after every surgery for everything. If the count is off, we look or X-ray the area. This done by both doctor, surgical tech, and nurse.

[@bradhensarling9006]

May I ask what a count is here

[@microsd4294]

@@bradhensarling9006they probably mean a “head count” of all the tools

[@EdRDBarker]

​@@bradhensarling9006you count all the items you have ready for the operation before and after. So they would have counted for example 4 towels before the surgery then after the surgery there would have only been 3. So only place it could be was in the patient

[@jessicamcwilliams3346]

You count how many sponges or towels you had before the surgery say there are 10 towels on your prep tray. Before you close up the patient you count the towels and you are missing 2. You search the floor and trash cans and you check to make sure that are not any towels that got tucked under the patient. So the surgeon decided to close up anyway. Because staff will find the missing towels when the room is cleaned and set up. The patient develops an infection and dies during the autopsy 2 towels and a clamp are found near the surgical site. The doctor is sued and looses his license, becomes an alcoholic, his wife and children leave him he's never able to find work again, looses his and his car is repoed becomes homeless and dies on the streets sad an alone. His last thought as he lays dying after be stabbed by an addict who wanted his shoes are "if only I had counted the sponges an clamps and insisted we find them before we closed up i would still be a doctor".

[@bradhensarling9006]

@@jessicamcwilliams3346 ah OK tyty

[@kristinaj9159]

“I was gonna check but was in a hurry” is terrifying to hear from a surgeon

[@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez]

I was gonna go in and check the wound...but then I got high...

[@sasquatch8268]

Thats the reality unfortunately when you have other patients to see

[@angrydragonslayer]

​@@sasquatch8268it's not an acceptable reason when the bill is easily $100k I would not tolerate an industry-equivalent from a supplier when speaking of a $2k part and go to court at $5k At 100k, me mentioning it to others in the industry would kill that supplier's business

[@joshvega5469]

@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ezbrilliantly done my dude

[@var8381]

@@angrydragonslayer looking up at the fact that a lot of DRUGS induced pre or post surgical or in general physiology may or may not RESULT in death or severe symptoms related side effects or allergic reactions.....SEE IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE CHANCES OF LAPSES AND LESS REGARDS BUT IF CONDITIONS DON'T ADVANCES THEN IT'S GIVEN A BYGONES BE BYGONES MOMENT ESPECIALLY AT EMERGENCIES MEDICAL SERVICES(EMS) ARRIVALS DURING CASUALTIES AS OF EARTHQUAKE OR FLOODS OR WARS OR PANDEMIC BREAKOUTS OR ROAD ACCIDENTS IN BUNCH OR STREET VIOLENCE OUTBREAKS OR RAILWAYS ACCIDENTS OR FLYING CRASHES OR FIRE ACCIDENTS ETC. ONE MUST UNDERSTAND THE RUSH N PRESSURE ON MEDICS TO SAVE MORE N MORE LIFES AND IT LOT DEPENDS ON THE AVAILAVLE TRAINED STAFF ,,,ALSO HUMAN BODY IS CAPABLE OF KEEPING STUFF INSIDE AS KEEPERS ,,IT CAUSES NO ISSUE AS MEDICAL STUFF IS STERILIZED OR QURANTIZED SO NEED NOT TO WORRY 😅😅😆😆♥️♥️♥️💐💐💐🌺🌺🌹🌹⚘⚘😄😃👍👍

[@DaltonHBrown]

"I knew I screwed up, but I also knew I'd be in trouble if I spoke up, so I was gonna wait to see if my screw-up was gonna cause issues before I said anything."

[@onomstarr]

THIS. And the worst part is that he admits to both A. Being in a hurry and cutting corners, which as a surgeon opening someone up you DO NOT DO B. Having a suspicion that he didn't inspect his after finishing. "I didn't want to get in trouble for not doing my job correctly" is all he had to say

[@RomanEmpireMetals]

Exactly

[@SquashGuy02134]

Spoken like a true job haver

[@merchant_of_kek5697]

I mean… yeah if I knew that my career would be over from one mistake why would someone speak a up? Like that literally sounds like hell, you fuck up, do the right thing then still get into ass fucking.

[@leftifornian2066]

@@onomstarrhe needs to be canceled

[@mischievousone9999]

Owning up to an error as soon as possible in a timely manner where a patient’s health is on the line does more for your career than deliberately ignoring the problem and actively pretending nothing happened until the patient comes back dying and having to confess anyway.

[@boomkruncher325zzshred5]

I agree with you morally, but the ability to act morally in this case is harder than you think. To see if I can articulate my thoughts, I’m going to deliberately exaggerate them to try and get the concept across. Let me know if it makes sense 😂 Making and self-reporting those mistakes when you’re learning or new to the job is “acceptably forgivable” in the eyes of authority; you are learning/adjusting, it’s expected. Doing that when you in theory should be a veteran practitioner who’s been doing this for years makes you look incompetent and untrustworthy. Patience wears only so thin before such honesty becomes grating and unacceptable, socially and professionally, making it harder to speak up especially when being honest could put your career in shambles. Sure long-term your career may fall apart anyway, but people expect you to at least learn to not make those kind of mistakes anymore, and thus not have to keep repeatedly self-reporting your every sin the moment you commit them, no matter how minor. It makes people think you have zero confidence that you can actually do the work in question because you’re always harping on your supposedly sub-par performance to your bosses about every little thing you keep screwing up. Being humble and being confident are not mutually exclusive, yes, but it’s tricky especially for a high-stress position like surgery. We say that we should constantly doubt ourselves so that we always double/triple/quadruple check every tiny detail when someone’s life is on the line, but you can only do that so many times before you go insane with the constant self-nagging. By trying to report and catch every tiny slip, you end up getting exhausted which leaves you sloppy. Nothing good comes from that kind of never-ending self-criticism. A weird analogy is kinda like this: when pruning a tree, you don’t prune it dozens of times in the same spot, shaving off every millimeter of detectable growth the moment your obsessive eyes spot it. You prune the unwanted stuff off; and then you let it grow out again. Effective pruning is done in stages, and allows the plant to grow back and be a little wild again before it’s time for new pruning. The former is guaranteed to exhaust you until you get so sick of obsessing over that plant that you just chuck the darn thing in the nearby forest so you don’t have to bother anymore; the latter still gets the plant pruned, but treats both you and the plant with lee-way and grace , knowing that nothing good comes from obsessive behavior. I guess my overall point is that there’s a limit to how many double-checks we can expect from any human being before they get so sick of them that they actively refuse to do them. Finding that balance is much harder than you think, and the reality of a patient’s life at stake amplifies the consequences one way or the other. It’s kinda pitiable, actually. Either act like you don’t deserve a break from the stress because of the critical nature of the job (which destroys you), or try and relax so you can cope with the stress (which destroys your career, and thus also destroys you). Kinda damned if they do, damned if they don’t IMHO.

[@teresayates8274]

Agree👍

[@geg5274]

hes the type of person that wouldnt tell the others about a zombie bite in an apocalypse, because he'd be waiting for "an appropriate time to speak up"

[@YoutubeIsRetarded689]

@@19Borneo67 I mean, would going on a plane flight with Covid despite knowing they had just had a positive test result work better for you?

[@tuaninh351]

​@@KZbinIsRetarded689sure, then I will know I can be infected and have solutions to minimize the consequences than just infecting pepple around me till they f*cking die for no reason

[@WublicIndecency]

​@@KZbinIsRetarded689same thing basically

[@Jamesgates355]

that guy the kind of whippersnapper to say "hey guys, we got a problem" instead of saying what the problem is

[@Reddeath111]

*Starts projectile vomiting blood* Hey guys I have something to tell you

[@IRON.392]

"I didn't report it cause I didn't want to get fired" would've been a shorter answer

[@meneng6933]

It's the truth I mean 15+ years you've been training,learning for this job and one mistake one moment of negligence could ruin all that hard work not excusing this guy's behavior because that's human life we're talking about and you can't excuse any mistakes in that situation but this is literally my biggest fear as a medical student that everything I worked so hard on could be rendered obsolete because I worked a few double shifts and forgot to check the wounds

[@reggin867]

​@@meneng6933to be fair a doctor's mistake isn't equivalent to a plumber mistake. That's why doctors get paid a shitload but face more severe consequences when they screw up relative to other jobs

[@bretfrench1228]

​@@meneng6933then dont make a mistake.... ffs....

[@VitoD226]

@@meneng6933 don't work so much, don't make such big mistakes...

[@Mengeneful]

​@@bretfrench1228🤓

[@094640]

"he was always going to tell them about the towel he was just waiting for the right time..." Bruh it was 5 years later he was waiting until he got called out.

[@adamsmasher9769]

I think she meqnt that he was going to tell them after the incident

[@saferabies]

​@anti-theistocles9879 it's been 5 years

[@undee3313]

@@saferabies obviously he didnt know until they found the towel the day before.

[@TripAMD]

​@@undee3313. He obviously knew he did it. He just didn't have the courage to admit his mistake.

[@trinitybernhardt9944]

​@@TripAMDI think he had doubts, but he probably reassured himself. Not that he was sure. He was probably worried even the act of saying he closed while uncomfortable could lose him the job. Though the little I watched of the show he was reckless and selfish, so... I could be wrong.

[@admirallily]

You know what’s more forgiving? The person who quickly admits their mistake. The one who chooses to “wait for the right time” in a case like this deserves to have their career ended.

[@racheld7528]

“Wait for the right time”? 5 years hadn’t been enough time? I would think there would be more forgiveness for a new surgeon or someone in their fellowship than someone who was a well season surgeon. But either way, no matter when it happens, it’s better to admit it right away than cause someone years of pain and suffering because you were more concerned about your career.

[@alexandergreer5141]

"Cool speech, still a lawsuit."

[@nishangkinibarua]

NINE NINE

[@Ligierthegreensun]

It’ll be a lawsuit either way, covering it up and lying about it will just ensure that a jury is definitely not on your side.

[@FFKonoko]

Not true, actually. The lawsuit is there regardless, the difference is if they take retribution on a doctor for voicing it. Notable that she literally wasn't to blame.

[@KwameAsante-m7i]

The world's biggest lawsuit

[@johnl.8616]

And thats why malpractice is the second biggest killer.

[@steviechampagne]

doctors out here killin more people than they save😳😳

[@azazelblackfire816]

It’s not but yeah.

[@azazelblackfire816]

The second biggest killer in the world is cancers btw. The first being cardiovascular diseases cause we are all unhealthy degenerate fucks.

[@Summersong2262]

That's a meme, not the second biggest killer.

[@Summersong2262]

@@alienmorality "Rather, they say, most errors represent systemic problems, including poorly coordinated care, fragmented insurance networks, the absence or underuse of safety nets, and other protocols, in addition to unwarranted variation in physician practice patterns that lack accountability." So no, THAT is not why medical mistakes are the third biggest killer, because what happened in this fictional video was flat out incompetence and malpractise. The overly cited SINGLE study that you guys love to roll out brainlessly doesn't actually back up what you're asserting, and in fact highlights that it's more an organisational thing including the way the US medical system prioritises profits over actual medical care. Go to an actual first world country with the same medical education and you'd see a very different result because they aren't struggling with the same twisted social values as the US.

[@DaDabewy]

Dude literally only cared about getting fired that’s crazy

[@I-serve-none-but-KORROK]

Like when he was injured and couldn’t use his hands properly anymore without them shaking profusely and lied about it and still continued to perform surgeries despite knowing how dangerous it was. Surgeons need to have the steadiest hands and his was shaking like someone with Parkinson’s. And on top of that, he had his girlfriend lie about it too and made her help him during his surgeries so he wouldn’t get caught. Had her practically do a surgery for him even though she was obviously not in that level of expertise. All so he wouldn’t lose his job.

[@syphonexp4695]

“I didn’t report my botched surgery because I was scared of actually facing consequences”

[@caeyel]

@@sushi610imagine leaving a towel in someones body after a surgery.

[@Meeces55]

​@@sushi610Imagine going in for surgey to have your life improved and the doctor makes a stupid ass mistake and now you're dead

[@crusade6918]

@@sushi610yeah either jail time or barred from being a doctor of any kind

[@timthorson52]

@@sushi610 Mistakes happen, it probably wouldn't end a career to make a mistake, but to realize you made a mistake afterward and not report it is potentially criminal.

[@Hinaru2008]

​​@@sushi610it's not understandable, they have a responsability, they are entrusted with a person's body, maybe even that person's life. Not only he made a mistake, he realized he did it and pretended it never happened, that's even worse, the patient's life was in danger and he kept his mouth shut for his own good And his response basically was: Oh I was gonna say something about it, I've just been waiting to get caught first...

[@cjvan713]

A good doctor/human being will always speak up when another's life is on the line, despite personal consequences.

[@sirmister9099]

diversity hires dont care

[@joseluisbucio6384]

Not always, this was the reason my father grew up fatherless at 7 , stupid doctor left his towel inside him and my grandpa passed too soon, and didnt get tried

[@Sabamika1]

It not 5 years too late.

[@dimitriostsiampalis364]

​@@joseluisbucio6384Wtf are you saying. Of course a good human always speaks up.

[@Grimm-A]

And we might lose a doctor, they might lose their life, we might lose their family too. It's a drama, this is considered as the top cmment says by doctors, but is also not simple

[@ShadisaSkyline]

I got surgery on my hip, when I came out of it while still on heavy painkillers, I apparently said it felt wrong and they put it back wrong (I only vaguely remember this). You know what they did? They looked at it again even though every single one of them probably knew that it was done right. And it WAS done right I was just in pain, but that is the humility that Doctors should have, to go off the word of a drugged up patient who can’t think straight and check again

[@gmork1090]

Of course. And your insurance got charged for it. I hate to be that guy, however...

[@georgebrantley776]

​@@gmork1090 Of course. You pay for your insurance to pay for it. It was all priced in from the start.

[@ShadisaSkyline]

@@gmork1090 assuming I’m from the US ofc, if it’s free all that does is continue to be free

[@Megatonaxe]

​@@gmork1090maybe it should be free

[@guusbakker79]

​@@ShadisaSkylinehate to break it to you but healthcare is never free

[@kenn9283]

Most towels/ surgical cloth today has a string in it that can be picked up by x-ray for that exact reason.

[@ladiyahprentice6738]

Yea but this tv not real life

[@kenn9283]

@@ladiyahprentice6738 true, just threw it out there in case anyone wanted to know

[@terrimiller128]

Yeah but some stories are inspired by true things @@ladiyahprentice6738

[@dryb3301]

That's why we usually don't close the patient until someone or two surgery techs count and verify the towel gauze and instrument count

[@mrmrjinx9960]

this made me queezy

[@FIRING_BLIND]

What if they are bleeding out?

[@squirrel670]

​@@FIRING_BLINDthey are also watching for that

[@dryb3301]

@@FIRING_BLIND if they are bleeding you are definitely not closing. Closing means suturing the final muscle layer, fat layer and skin. If a patient is bleeding they are bleeding from a vessel, so you cauterize small small vessels and suture or tie larger vessels.

[@toomanyrads3827]

“It’s not my fault, I was scared of getting yelled at”

[@BlackTheSheep]

Doctors don't just get yelled at. They can lose their medical license, heavily fined and even sent to jail. Medical malpractice is a civil AND criminal act and is the 3rd leading cause of death in America.

[@youngop]

They do more then yell at them 😂

[@nate7LP_my_dog_found_the_knife]

Perfectly reasonable to me.

[@Pherim_]

He would get way more then yell... I dont blame him, it was a minor thing

[@agereartist3763]

​@@Pherim_ So he was gonna let someone else live with the consequences of his own actions because he chose to not do a proper sweep and count all the equipment like protocol requires?

[@Ankochan200]

He cares more about his career and his reputations then the life of his patient.

[@nasis18]

Sounds like it.

[@Matt-ve3ql]

Average doctor

[@brandonscudieri1440]

I mean, you spend hundreds of thousands on something, along with contribute 10 some years of your life to it, I’m pretty sure anyone would want to preserve that.

[@MallardPie]

​@@brandonscudieri1440 I would rather have a doctor admit a mistake that ignore it

[@Kob_II]

@@brandonscudieri1440regardless, just put yourself in the patient's shoes and you'll realize how terrible it really is

[@anonymoususer6512]

That happened to my mother. All she got in return was years of pain a second surgery. Should have sued but my parents aren’t that type.

[@3hree9ine]

Lies

[@Fiery154]

I believe you. I worked for a surgeon and he had to go fetch a cloth left in by someone else. It actually does happen.

[@BubbyBold]

I'm sorry but not suing was an incredibly stupid thing to do

[@notmario6722]

​@@BubbyBoldwhy???

[@-Karnage]

@@notmario6722 Because it's an open-and-shut case

[@sarge6870]

My wife had a procedure called a "Lampoon" to replace a heart valve. The surgeons left behind a wire 123 cm long (4 1/2 feet). Two days after the procedure, she had a major stroke causing her to not be able to read anymore and memory loss. They made her wait 3 additional weeks before they went back in and removed the wire. It was a 3 week stay in the hospital that was only supposed to be 3 days. My biggest concern now is what I will rename the hospital to after the lawsuit!

[@confusedredditor1660]

I'm sorry

[@sarge6870]

@DagwoodDogwoggle Oh, did I forget to mention I am disabled too and am her caretaker? I do the cooking, cleaning, shopping and the laundry just to name a few things. All while dealing with my 3 triple bypasses, defrib/pacemaker implant, claudication in both legs and 2 recent strokes. So yes, I DO have much to worry about!

[@sarge6870]

@DagwoodDogwoggle Thank you and I wish you the same for whatever you are experiencing!

[@123youbia]

Jfc I am so sorry, I legit teared up from reading this. I hope they get punished

[@cannon26ify]

Rename it "The emperor Palpatine surgical reconstruction center"

[@jakobkiehne596]

This happened to my grandpa. Caused him pain for years and no one wanted to check it out at the hospital. When they finally found it during a triple bypass, it was made very clear by hospital staff that they thought it was his fault. Somehow while under general anesthesia my grandpa left a sponge in his chest during open heart surgery. He was the best and worst surgery I ever knew.

[@pearl_the_raccoon_5805]

i hate that for you and him. Its sickening how heartless medical personale can be in the country

[@Valchrist1313]

X

[@ashleyc2525]

How did they explain that it was his fault??

[@Jawsjawsjawsrg]

Wow, I knew someone that this same scenario happened too as well.

[@cleo1827]

That’s hilarious. Yeah doc, I was just scrubbing too hard during bath time, my bad😂

[@kdaly7729]

"I was in a hurry" those are the WRONG words when you want a good surgeon

[@Elle...]

All surgeons are in a hurry when someone’s life is on the line. Doctors fuck up, it’s part of learning, you can’t just ban them from saving lives because they made a mistake.

[@leftsidehurt]

now i've never needed surgery before but that's exactly whaa i expect a good surgeon to say at some point

[@Artemi22]

@@leftsidehurt why?

[@pan364]

​@@leftsidehurtthat's concerning 😂

[@leftsidehurt]

@@Artemi22 to get to their next patient of course , aren't all doctors in a hurry to do whatever they need to do to relating to their patients

[@Spekt3r_808]

This guy deserves an Oscar for pretending doctors don't have liability insurance.

[@KingNicotine]

Medical error is responsible for over 250K deaths a year in the US...the third leading cause of death. Maybe we need a little less liability to insure...

[@well_i_say]

they have?

[@Eggy79]

@jhona1429 yeah and if he uses it, his premiums go up and it goes on his record and it still reflects badly on the hospital

[@TGuard00014]

He wasn’t worried about being sued he was worried about being fired.

[@daughterofwolf]

This happened to my aunt in the late 80s. Her stomach looked like she was pregnant, pain, discomfort. Thought it was a tumor. But it was a towel that was left inside from a previous surgery a few months back. The same doctor was then scheduled to take it out. When she woke up, another doctor greeted her. He told her he had to finish the removal surgery because the doctor who was supposed to do it (left it there to begin with) couldn’t finish…it was so bad looking he became ill and walked out/couldn’t finish and they had to call a new doctor to finish the job. The new doctor told her It was rotting and her insides were green. Anyhoo, she lived to tell the story and we’re not sure how much but she did settle with the hospital for a hefty sum $$. She’s still alive today.

[@vminhope3040]

SO THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO SOMEONE 😰

[@maysatani]

😮🫢

[@paullly3665]

The fear of hospital semantics/lawyers should never be greater than the fear making a huge mistake (possibly intentionally) and jeopardizing someone's life.

[@Suisfonia]

Sadly though that is how society is, and the thing is its not just in the hospital industry where this happens; even in other types of work as well where if a person makes a mistake that could end their career, they are afraid to speak up out of risk of retribution by their employer.

[@Valchrist1313]

You ever watch badge-cam footage? There's one where a cop friendly-fires another cop. As soon as he starts to tell the commanding officer, the CO tells him to shut up and not say anything while pointing at his badge cam. Literally covering up one cop shooting another cop because they know it will be released to the public.

[@mattluck2826]

See personally I’d blame the medical bureaucracy for turning helping patients into making sure they can extract as much wealth from patients for as little medical work as possible but that’s just me

[@Valchrist1313]

@@mattluck2826 So, not a fan of Fauci, then?

[@mattluck2826]

@@Valchrist1313 idgaf abt fauci there’s been millions of fauci. the system purposely pushed vaccines instead of rapid testing and contact tracing bc preventative measures aren’t profitable. that’s y China has 400k deaths despite having 4x the population. for profit medicine is evil business man

[@ShadowMoon878]

I remember this episode. When i was undergoing a stomach surgery last year, i actually told the surgeon to take his time coz i feared something like this will happened. Thank goodness he really did took his time coz the surgery was supposed to be over in 4 hours but he took 6 hours.

[@DomT0311]

He didn't take his time. He rushed. It just took 6 hrs instead of 4 bc they always underestimate how long it'll take.

[@lei1043]

​​That, or some complications happened during the surgery which took a while to stabilize and fix. But hey, at least you're fine now, no need to fret over it xD

[@Hikari_1304]

@@DomT03116 hours doesn’t sound like a rush lol, you even in the med field? Don’t go throwing around those words to make a point

[@billwilliams328]

@@lei1043lel

[@midwings00]

The time is always an estimation. Even Anaesthesia can longer than five minutes to start. All surgical times are estimation. You just become good at the number as you get experience.

[@kingofrivia1248]

Yeahhhhh nahhhhhhh if this was real i would expect him to be fired and his license to be suspended. Mystakes happen all the time but especially in medicine you need to acknowledge them immediately.

[@Gentelmaninsuits]

Doctors never roll on each other lmao it’s professional sui cide

[@buttlord2223]

He's black, the only way he'd be fired would be if he made a tiktok of himself shoving the towel in the patient while rapping about it.

[@duncle322]

Yeah for example you typing the word mistake with letter y

[@stephenproulx175]

​@@Gentelmaninsuitswtf? Black people get treated like sh*t all the time...

[@tkemp710]

Hahaha I can promise you, hospitals know how to bury it. I both worked in a hospital where this happened, and then became a victim of it when I was the pT wronged by doctor error.

[@ThatJohnKillion1970]

"Even great doctors make mistakes." Terrible doctors make excuses.

[@guy-]

Sir, you may be a good and respectable man but great doctors can also make excuses.

[@kaypendergast5676]

Not just doctors but also nurses... I've been overdosed and ... and... and... I have NO TRUST. NONE. Doctors and nurses value their own career over my life. How could anyone trust them.

[@armandotrigo4619]

Funny guy, thinks life is a TV show. People make mistakes no matter how good they are, the consistency of them is what separates the good from the bad ones.

[@tingispingis]

​@@armandotrigo4619Everyone here is acting like this TV show doctor is a real person lol what a world we live in where grown adults don't realize they're watching a dumb show

[@FiftyStates5]

He didn't excuse himself

[@roodhaven]

It was in the news at our city that the patient still had scissors in his belly. He complained of pain until they saw in the x-ray that scissors was still inside!

[@benjay3031]

A coworker I had had surgery and went back after 2 days complaining of constant pain where they operated. They had left a scalpel inside of her. A SCALPEL. She sued the hospital, and got half a million.

[@madammisha]

Omfgg!! That is beyond negligent! I hope he sued the hell out of whoever performed surgery on him.

[@a_RedClaw]

Is it Indian news ?

[@dustjunky2000]

I like how he called himself a great doctor while saying he didn't bother to do his job properly.😂

[@Bigtwinkissac209]

nope he was busy he had a lot of patients he had to rush feel bad for the guy but yeah everything is just fucked

[@LeoneYamada]

​@@Bigtwinkissac209solution? DO A FUCKING COUNT. HOW U MISS AN ENTIRE TOWEL

[@kilisloe3474]

​@@Bigtwinkissac209 No matter how rushed he was, he should have made sure everything was done properly.

[@michaelka3071]

​@@kilisloe3474🤡🤡

[@thatcherbuck]

Sometimes the operation has strict time limits and going back to check isn't always possible. Mistakes happen.

[@mr_cramberry]

That defence speech along with that hand pose was utterly sickening...

[@crusaderkaiser2000]

I get his defense tbh, can’t work honestly in fear and all that stuff, but the hand pose really makes it hard to agree with 😂

[@ReneeWright69]

​@@crusaderkaiser2000 I'm sure you'll be just as forgiving if you or a family member go through the same. No one ever takes any personal accountability.

[@truedarklander]

That is actually perfect defense. Pilots report their mistakes like this without fear of retribution and they have more lives than one in their hands.

[@crusaderkaiser2000]

@@ReneeWright69 I’m not saying it’s a good thing 🤦‍♂️ I’m just saying I understand his perspective. Lawyers breathe down workers necks, which causes them to work in fear so they’ll avoid doing things which could get them in trouble. But none of that matters, CAUSE ITS A SHOW! None of this actually happens! They go through a massive vetting process before stitching them back up. So no, my family members wouldn’t just have a towel in them Renee, and I wouldn’t have to cry over it.

[@G.F.SF55]

Ikr completely ridiculous

[@SSXVegeta]

I like that we are trying to paint this as an empowering learning moment while shifting the blame. "I didnt do the right thing, because I was scared of the consequences of my own carelessness."

[@ethanv7330]

You're saying it isn't often true? Very often a mistake can be mitigated greatly, many times even up to no damage. If you fix it quickly. Should we not affirm fixing it? Everyone makes mistakes, when you fire people for owning up to them before it becomes apparent. You're creating worse problems.

[@CzDelta92]

@@ethanv7330 we aint talking about a small mistake, is literally lives and you need to open a patient up again and subject him to a surgery for this

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

Their kind is always avoiding blame for their actions, just look up crime statistics and then who they blame...

[@imaniwilliams816]

​​​@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoonSo, I looked it up and in the crime stats report you're referring to, white people took the lead for crimes committed in all categories. Even after adjusting for population, the report says that, "White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.1 percent of those arrests." It seems to me that people like you are the ones trying to shift the blame by readily trying to paint black people as criminals based off of statistics you clearly don't know how to interpret.

[@lunaloveless7234]

​@ethanv7330 yeah and he's affirming nit sharing it because he doesn't want to get in trouble. Wild.

[@MellSayzHi]

Sir, that's a whole ass towel, wouldn't you be more afraid now than then?

[@fitrianhidayat]

I don't watch the show, can you please explain why they even have ass towel in a surgery room?

[@RealmOfUnknown]

@@fitrianhidayatDoubt it’s an actual wash cloth or bathroom towel. More than likely, it’s a medical practice used. Yes, during some surgeries, you can be stuffed a little bit in order to assist with blood/fluid absorption. Especially don’t want blood just flowing about randomly , especially during surgery as it would obstruct the surgeons work. I’m just guessing though based off minimal knowledge, I’m sure a doctor could give a better answer

[@dewaunwarren1]

He probably would have gotten and less trouble had he said something sooner. The fact that he tried to hide the fact there was a whole towel he left in this person for years is grounds for legal action.

[@ea3414]

​@@dewaunwarren1he would have been sued regardless

[@PapaCopperpot]

Bro really said “I left a towel in you after surgery, my bad but like people make mistakes plus I didn’t want to be punished & I was scared of getting in trouble so I didn’t say anything but I was gonna tell you eventually. I know it’s been 5 years but I was scared, give me a break”

[@RaidenKaiser]

And this is why he shouldn't be allowed in a hospital in my opinion, like we all make mistakes but keeping a life endangering secret like this just because you're scared of losing your job tells me you're selfish and value your own career over the safety of others. If this was real they should be getting a harsher punishment than their job they should have straight of reckless endangerment charges pressed and that's assuming they are lucky the patient lives.

[@shookfng]

Some doctors don’t care. What even worse is when they try to cover it up and their colleagues help.

[@colin8696908]

I know what an insane argument to make.

[@unhappytomato8376]

Honestly, surprised they didn't make the character pull the race card after saying that bs

[@lubbyLB]

@@unhappytomato8376 reported

[@HarryBallsich]

Fired immediately and should be criminally charged.

[@kyleellis1825]

This hospital would have been shut down within couple years and all the staff barred from medicine/in prison. It's like with the crime shows that have to take the most interesting cases from around the world. The medical cases in this show come from all over the world and over like a 50 year period. These scandals would have actually been happening a decade or moreapart and most likely with completely different people involved.

[@sociallyineptclownprincech8731]

😊

[@donjuan9746]

@@kyleellis1825 EH criminally charging would be hard to do, absolutely losing licenses and barred from practicing but criminal charges usually come with intent or negligence to the point you severely incapacitate someone.

[@kyleellis1825]

@@donjuan9746 That's why I seperated it. They wouldn't all go to jail.

[@matthewharrison2317]

Yeah but because of his "underprivileged demographic", we must give endless allowances for error and mistakes we wouldn't give a hwhite person to make up for muh slavery and......muh oppression...

[@Peirre1Mom]

That’s why Surgical RN’s as well as Surgical Technicians are responsible for truthful counts and stopping the Surgeon from closing patients even if the surgeon threatens the staff with their job or retribution for calling them out to stop closing until every instrument, needle, towel, gauze, or lap sponge is counted correctly and accounted for ! My job is to protect my patients from harm!

[@Unncle_Ruckus]

THAT'S being a medical professional. Cowards should get jobs at McDonald's.

[@Balshem]

How the hell does anyone see him as a good guy just waiting to do the right thing? That lady has had a towel festering beneath her lungs for years because he said nothing when he knew he probably made a mistake. The guy isn’t a hero, he’s the villain.

[@askele-tonofgaming4878]

The repercussions of speaking out would have been severe, it really sucks how you are stuck between a rock and a hard place where doing the right thing is literally your life on the line because of a stupid mistake. Imagine you had a family to take care of or was fresh out of med school and had a mountain of debt, all these things weigh on one's conscious when making decisions.

[@Balshem]

@@askele-tonofgaming4878 imagine if you were a patient having just undergone a life altering surgery. Within days you find your shortness of breath has increased and you have this strange pressure around your diaphragm, but you don’t know why. For the next five years you are chronically ill, your lungs always feel like they are on fire and you are in and out of the ICU due to sepsis and gangrene which continues to infect abdominal/chest wall cavity. After your latest round of antibiotics and another debilitating course of recovery you find out it’s because a surgeon five years ago left a huge surgical towel in your chest after close up. Worse, he was pretty sure he did and said nothing. Patients are not toasters, they are alive and they suffer very real consequences because of our mistakes. You don’t get to make a mistake this large, sit on it until you’re caught and then claim you were ‘waiting to do the right thing’. No, you weren’t. You were willing to let this person live in agony or die so that you could maintain your lifestyle and no be accountable for your mistake. I have zero sympathy for him because he had medical debts. He had a responsibility to that patient, knew what it was, refused to provide it and the patient required surgery (was injured due to it). That is negligence and he should lose his license.

[@max7971]

@@askele-tonofgaming4878 how does this excuse him?

[@sasquatch8268]

@@max7971It doesn’t. In the medical profession, there’s a huge paradigm shift in a culture of open dialogue and educating others about the “second victim” phenomenon. What he did was inexcusable, but going straight to firing someone is never the answer, which is the focal point of the video.

[@medievalarmorexptert6827]

@@sasquatch8268 i would understand if that was like under 48 hours ago but its 5 years. If they can risk a person's life for their own career for 5 years they should not be practicing medicine. If you make a mistake then obviously you shouldnt be fired but then you make another mistake by hiding it and expect not to be fired? It proves that you arent trustworthy.

[@ggggjoe]

Such a narcissistic response and argument

[@blackwingdragonmasta]

You don't know what that word means.

[@nishthagupta1357]

Ikr

[@junaetmahbub3363]

@@blackwingdragonmastano he’s right it’s extremely narcissistic

[@LambGoatSoup]

​@@blackwingdragonmastathis actually applied perfectly. The doc was right their career shouldn't end. But was wrong for him not to double check. Thats grossly fucked up

[@nomahfuckah2080]

​@@blackwingdragonmastaGreat, now you've embarrassed yourself.

[@stonerzgamingentertainment1708]

My sister has had a scalpel in her stomach from a operation left behind after a liposuction surgery didn't realise for 12 years until it cut into the lining of her stomach and caused more damage

[@achieveceonline]

oh no, how is she now?

[@stonerzgamingentertainment1708]

@@achieveceonline she's going good now they did another operation and fixed everything up

[@MTetzke]

What kind of lypo did she have?!? Mine only had a couple small incisions, that were closed with 2 stitches, where they insert the tube to suck out the fat. Why would she be opened up? Just curious?

[@TammyINSchannel]

I was a student nurse on my first day of my theatre rotation back in nineteen fountain pen and observing my first operation. The operation was over and the surgeon was about to put in the last of the sutures when the scrub nurse suddenly shouted "STOP". She'd been removing the scalpel blade from the handle when the damned blade snapped and flew off somewhere. She hadn't been able to find it. We all started searching and the scrub nurse, who looked awful said she'd found it. She was a rather rotund lady and the blade has buried itself in her abdominal adipose tissue. She was the next patient on the table while the surgeon dug it out. As she told us later, at least she wasn't going to be suing herself :D

[@reggin867]

​@@achieveceonlineshe dead

[@juanestevas6488]

“I was gonna tell you I left a towel inside a person but I was afraid I would get in trouble for gross negligence!”

[@lexiebishop555]

I’m sorry but a TOWEL????

[@ashleygrenstone6540]

I know, yuck; but it does happen!

[@warpedalice]

Sponges, spreaders, forceps all kinds of stuff has been pulled out of bodies after surgery.

[@jenniferharris1280]

Not like a bath towel, more like the size of a washcloth. Medical terminology.

[@erinkavanagh3704]

My mom had a towel left inside of her after she delivered me. She kept telling the dr how bad she felt and it took a while before they took her seriously 😡

[@lexiebishop555]

@@erinkavanagh3704 it’s so insane! I’m obviously not a doctor and don’t know Jack shit but that just seems super excessive!!

[@Cruddy129]

So in other words, his career is more worthy than saving a patients life

[@ChrisAndCats]

So it seems.

[@TheBathulk10]

That's every doctor btw

[@jacobfausnight1180]

Which is totally against what a doctor is supposed to stand for

[@SeaShellers]

In this case yes, plus he's black.

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@jacobfausnight1180 If doctors didn't fight for their careers and then we wouldn't have many drs to go around

[@primrosed2338]

Thats why the surgery checklist was created. Thats why you have a circulating nurse.

[@Kimosabes2hot]

"He was going to tell them, he just needed the right time." Girl, I'm back handing you, your staff, and every person that was in that operating hall for every day that thing was in my lungs.

[@elderchiyo7508]

For those who don’t know what he meant about “Dr. Grey” speaking up … Meredith (dr.grey) was scrubbing in for a surgery and some part during the surgery she was asked to hold the heart , but when she did she began dozing off because she was tired, she then squished the heart which caused her nail to pop her glove a little. After the surgery was a “success”, Meredith realized her glove popped and her finger was filled with the patients blood. She then confessed to her friend how she thinks she punctured the patients heart. She got reassurance from him that the patient was “fine”. Meredith still was uneasy the entire day and is unsure if she should confess of what happened. Then, she was paged because blood starting gushing out from that patient. The attendant, Dr. Burke, from that case asked what happened. Meredith freaked out and confessed right in front of the patients husband how she popped a glove with her fingernail. During the surgery to fix the patients heart once again, Meredith was scolded by her superior about how she did not spoke up earlier and her mistake of making that comment in front of her husband. Turns out, the damage of the nail was greater than just a little scratch. The husband was upset of what happened and hired a lawyer. Dr. Grey’s careeer was now in danger. During this same day, they performed another surgery to ANOTHER patient, where they found a towel inside the patient. This surgery was previously performed on the same patient by Dr.Burke years ago. In the video, Dr. Burke who was initially upset with Meredith, came to her defense as is shown in the video since he empathized for her.

[@onomstarr]

She deserved to be sued for not reporting it earlier, and he deserved to be sued because he straight up admits he was in a hurry and cut corners. And he has the nerve to say that it's somehow a lawyer's fault when they don't report things because they don't want to get in trouble?

[@elderchiyo7508]

@@onomstarr I agree, like it was a stupid of reason because it legit could kill a patient .

[@Henry-sd7vd]

So the guy in the vid scolded her and was upset with her but only came to her defense when he realised he made his own screw up and was in the firing line alongside her? What a narcissist lmao.

[@741podnammoc]

Thank you for filling us in since we don't have the broader context. But man it only convinces me the writer doesn't understand what they're trying to say or hasn't thought it through enough.

[@snikrepak]

Easy fix, no nails in the room.

[@00videovideo]

Nah that’s fucked up you risk a person health cuz you don’t wanna get in trouble for your mistake. That’s what a horrible doctor would do.

[@melimel9265]

Right, what about the oath they swear by?

[@fuma9532]

Yeah, and the system shouldn't be exceptionally harsh on mistakes, double checks should be performed, doctors shouldn't be on such a tight schedule they ever feel "in a hurry" during an operation... And lawyers shouldn't be anywhere near hospitals, except for very rare occasions.

[@pablocrawford3922]

This is the equivalent of the doctors replacing Kenny's heart with a potato from South Park

[@BexySC]

Is it really though ???

[@nathancovington1792]

I don’t think it’s quite that bad, bud.

[@abortedphoenix]

These two idiots above me have no sense of humor 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshweaver7998]

hahahahah love that episode

[@Mike--Oxmall]

Reminds me of the case of Glenford Turner who had routine surgery but for four long years after he was in terrible agonising pain. He visited his doctor many times and he just fobbed him off until he went to a different doctor who discovered that the previous doctor had left a metal scalpel inside of him. Could you imagine the pain of that thing cutting your insides when you move around.

[@OfficeHyena]

Jeez

[@_smurfitude]

OMG!

[@Atr1xdoesthings]

If you guys wanna know what dr. Grey did, she was super stressed out during heart surgery (I think it was something about her mom having Alzheimer’s I’m not sure sorry) but basically her job was to hold the heart and squeeze it occasionally to keep it pumping and alive, during one of the squeezes she did it too hard and her nail punctured through the glove and scraped the heart a little damaging the tissue. She didn’t realize the extent of the puncture so she didn’t say anything. Later, the patient was doing fine and suddenly wasn’t and had to get open heart surgery (again) In the end Dr. Grey was suspended from the OR (operating room) for 1-3 weeks (I can’t remember that well) anyways hope u enjoyed my little summary!!

[@kg6502]

What episode is this again?

[@Atr1xdoesthings]

@@kg6502 season 1 episode 5 i think!

[@ChaosandPassion]

I thought she was falling asleep while holding it. She drifted off slightly, then when they were done, noticed that her finger had tore through the glove.

[@jjgarcia156]

​@@ChaosandPassionfinger tore through the glove and said nothing during surgery??? She should get her license revoked for that, no even gonna lie. Mistakes happen but a contamination breach like that left unaddressed immediately is catastrophic for the patient

[@madcatneon2604]

Having a chance to tell the truth without retaliation or getting yelled at for a mistake is what I like about my current boss. He told us that "it is easier to solve a problem if we are not withholding information," so he listens first.

[@Karina-fb3sc]

You better never leave that job cuz these other bosses out here ain’t it.

[@madcatneon2604]

Karina-fb3sc Imagine, accidentally dumping almost 10k liters of milk to the sewer because of the wrong press of a button. It took me 20 minutes of contemplation and readying myself before i served my head to the chopping block, but the boss just said to tell me what happened, and then he filed a report, and that's about it. Sent me back to work and told to be careful. I have never been so thankful for having this kind of boss.

[@thatsameenergy]

Does your job include work that can end up placing a towel behind someone's lung and end up causing a life threatening infection?

[@madcatneon2604]

@@thatsameenergy Better yet, having antibiotics in milk can kill not just 1 person so we are careful

[@Suwundae]

I love this for you but its literally not some same thing he could have killed that person

[@Fiery154]

I worked front desk for a surgeon. He had to do an emergency surgery to go remove a cloth left inside someone’s abdominal cavity once. This tish actually happens.

[@gabrielkawa3477]

No shit

[@frankmorales643]

Waiting for the appropriate time?! 5 years!?

[@Elle...]

He just found out that he left it in, he waited less than a day after finding out his mistake.

[@VitoD226]

@@Elle... after having a reasonable suspicion that something was wrong 5 years ago........

[@Elle...]

@@VitoD226 which was the whole point, that he had the suspicion but was too afraid to say he messed up to confirm. The reason he said nothing was because he was afraid of being punished, which he shouldn’t have had to have been. Also the scrub nurses are the ones who are supposed to do a count of the supplies, so if they said nothing, its reasonable for him to assume he was wrong about his suspicions.

[@VitoD226]

@@Elle... ahh I see

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

​@@Elle...what are you on about? He 100% should have been punished for that big of a screw up and not reporting it or making a basic follow up immediatelly, and even more so for looking out for his career over a patient's health and life. His argument is beyond narcissistic and self-serving. Reporting the issue back then would've made him seem somewhat incompetent or reckless, now that he was found out, he's shown he is dangerously negligent and irresponsible. Not owning up to your mistakes is one of the biggest proofs you are not to be trusted.

[@robertburk5550]

Doctor: Now, this is also probably a good time to mention about how 2 years ago I treated a neighbor, I'm not sure where, but I lost my cellphone that day and my neighbor keeps randomly playing my old ring tone when he farts...

[@Jay-gx8co]

Joker:I want my phone call. I want it

[@adrianarnold1239]

You so silly. I was so into this as a nurse. I was thinking you was giving me some really good stuff and ended with that silliness. Thank you thank you thank you😂😂😂

[@willdavis3802]

That's a good ass battery.

[@Apache-John]

Nah that's someone's life. He deserves to be charged as a criminal

[@Elle...]

Then every single doctor would be in jail. Doctors fuck up, all of them, so treating them like monsters for it is pointless. No doctor starts out perfect.

[@dabudebu3816]

Fact: Gossypiboma is the official name for a retained sponge/towel after surgery. According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, it is anywhere between 1 in 100 to 1 in 5000. However a study done in 2008 reported to the Annals of Surgery that mistakes in tool and sponge counts happened in 12.5% of surgeries. source:Wikipedia

[@sasquatch8268]

He didn’t know until 5 years later and then immediately owned up to it once it was confirmed. He had suspicions, but suspicion does not equal confirmation, especially if the count was not off.

[@bradleyford374]

Bro left a towel in someones lung and is like “we all make mistakes”

[@chilogutierrez695]

He ain't wrong tho. Doctors mistakes just sometimes kill people.

[@Beka_Rex]

Even when they do the count, it can go wrong. My husband a few years back had his entire abdomen opened due to gangrenous appendicitis. They had to leave the wound fully open to heal, and when a nurse was removing gauze, two of them stuck together but she counted as one. She was digging around in his open abdomen, him wide awake with no pain relief. I was stood their saying “that’s not gauze that’s his tissue! You got it all!!” He was in so much pain and it took her so long to think to recount. I was so mad

[@shiningstar2903]

Why was he awake?

[@ashleysowers9904]

@@shiningstar2903When they leave it open it’s to allow normality a drainage tube and you go home with it like this. It’s so all the infection can leave your body, so after your initial surgery your awake and feel all of it. I’ve watched 2 family members go through the same process with there appendix and no matter what medication they took it didn’t help

[@shiningstar2903]

@@ashleysowers9904 how awful.

[@Beka_Rex]

@@shiningstar2903 honestly i have no idea. He was stapled closed but the wound went septic and his liver and kidneys started to fail. Instead of taking him back to surgery to open the wound back up as it had been 4 days since the surgery, the surgeon just came into the ward, closed the curtains and used a tool to pull the staples and a cotton swab to pry the wound back open. I’m not one to get queasy but I had to step out for a second as it was so graphic to see, and hard to watch my husband yell in agony. Once it was open he felt instant relief as so much pus flowed out. It was just packed with gauze till the next day and she was removing it in order to put on a fresh dressing. Then he had a suction drain pump on that he had to carry around for a few weeks as it closed. It was a hell of a time. There were a fair amount of things I questioned at that time. Like the fact that I, with no medical training told them that I was concerned about the colour of his urine (it was red), and the colour of his eyes (they were yellow), and the redness around his wound that was spreading. It then took them a full 2 days to recognise the problems I pointed out, after they told me it was nothing. He now has an enormous incisional hernia that he needs yet another massive surgery to fix, so that’ll no doubt be another saga

[@gummy5862]

@@Beka_RexMake sure you get every single thing that’s said and that happens in writing. You brought up the yellow eyes and red urine, and they said it’s nothing? Have them put that in writing and have them sign that.

[@TheTSense]

"I didn't say anything because I didn't care about the well-being of another human being. I want to be paid and seen as a doctor, I don't want to perform like a doctor"

[@ArthurRex131]

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand how powerful fear of retribution can be.

[@janus3555]

​@@ArthurRex131honestly, I wouldn't trust him to operate on me to begin with. This scene merely reinforces that position in a fictional setting. Narrative aside though, the actor who played him was horrible on set. The rest of the show crew and half of the actors wished him gone. They wrote this in before he was gone from the show.

[@Borderinglines]

Lol that was the stupidest excuse I’ve ever heard come outta someone’s mouth. “Oh I didn’t wanna get in trouble, so I kept it to myself for 5 years” 🤣🤪

[@lorimeyers3839]

I got called for jury duty one time, and the case was about a doctor who left surgical instruments inside a patient. Lol.

[@Masterk1988]

This does actually happen an employee at my business had shoulder surgery that got crazy infected had another surgery to clean it out and see what was going on and they found a gauze pad from the first surgery that was causing the infection

[@somethingredblue9235]

Soo five fucking years?

[@triggerfish1249]

"He was always going to tell them about the towel, he was just waiting for the right time." There is no right time for that lmao

[@squirrel670]

The right time was when he suspected it the f?

[@trashman11]

He left a towel is someone’s lungs he SHOULD be fired. And them gaslighting that poor woman should get them all fired right along with him

[@VivBrodock]

"I endangered a person's life that I've sworn to protect because I was scared I might get sued"

[@SomeScruffian]

Surgeon: "I feared for my career" Lawyer: "Should've feared for your patients life"

[@popbre3]

This happened to my friend after her c-section. The Dr. left rolls of gauze bandages in her stomach. A month later she was rushed to the ER for emergency surgery and that’s how they found it. She dyed the Dr. and the hospital.

[@rainbowhaven]

what colour did she dye the doctor and the hospital?

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

​@@rainbowhavenhopefully red

[@popbre3]

@@rainbowhaven oh crap I didn’t even notice that typo, or what did I type that it came out as dyed. I meant so say “she sued the Dr. and the hospital.

[@eros5420]

5 years isn't waiting for the right time. You're supposed to report that shit right away.

[@sarahthivierge3387]

They actually they say the doctors that speak up admit their mistake and sincerely apologize more often than not the family doesnt sue. Or if they do its only to get medical bills and stuff covered.

[@sierragutierrez9941]

That’s what I’d hope and expect, although this situation is insane and no doubt similar has happened

[@michelemiktus2312]

It’s true, anyone can understand being human and understand how bad the person feels. The phrase “only by the grace of God go I….”. The docs who refuse to acknowledge their errors are the ones who get the lawsuits b/c if they are that arrogant not to acknowledge their mistakes then they are dangerous to every person they touch and start w/being negligent b/c they start out not even caring. They deserve to be sued and lose their license. Disgusting human beings.

[@rishabhgarg4409]

No ! When they sue , their lawyer makes sure doctors 7 generations have nothing to eat and even a minor fault will get thier license cancelled but the million dollar Bank loan remains for thier life

[@TammyINSchannel]

Maybe doctors are like airlines. Insurers tell them to never apologise because that's tantamount to admitting liability.

[@sarahthivierge3387]

@TammyINSchannel thats exactly how it is. But the rare occasion when the doctor has a concience and apologizes to the family for their mistakes the doctor is far more likely to not get sued.

[@223556762308]

Hello malpractice lawyers yes I want to be rich.

[@bigbromikeify]

"I was gonna report my not having done my job properly but i wanted to see if it would get brushed under the rug first. Im a good doctor, i just screw up and try to avoid responsibility. Who knows how many times ive done it before?"

[@stonedgoddess420]

"I was in a hurry" is not something you wanna hear a doctor say. There is no rush on saving a life properly. Do It right or don't do it at all

[@johnkennedy4816]

@@stonedgoddess420 lmao, you must be foolish, do u expect doctors to be slow during an emergency?? Do you think there's possibly other people he needs to treat before he clocks out?

[@darkriku12]

@@stonedgoddess420 that can depend. Is someone else needing their life saved in the queue as well?

[@somb0]

this happened to my mother, during her hip replacement a surgeon left a small piece of cloth of gauze or something inside the wound that led to a horrible infection, had to have it reopened removed replace the hip again clean the area … didn’t have money to hire attorneys so just had to deal with it. caused some permanent damage

[@carllennen3520]

"Didnt have money to hire an attorney". That is a lie. You where to lazy to search for an attorney. Attorneys have been doing cases like this for over 30 years on commission. They work up front for free, and take 30-40% of the payout after costs. Had you made any phone calls, you would have had 20 Attorneys fighting over each other to sign you as a client. I will never understand why people will lie about stuff like this for attention from strangers.

[@tieshaj8305]

@@carllennen3520why do you care so much? Why are you so passionate about this stranger’s comment/experience, truthful or not?

[@THENEVERDEADIV]

@@carllennen3520 Because you have to have cash in hand to get an attorney.. Doctors and Lawyers both need copay.. Thats part of the scam

[@carllennen3520]

@tieshajones8305 why DONT you care about people lying for attention? Why are you more concerned with my level of concern, than with lies? Is there a point you're trying to make, or are you just trolling for no reason?

[@StarStriker-pk1zy]

Shit bait

[@hotgarbage926]

Years ago. My uncle had a surgery in Canada. The surgeon forgot the scissors in his stomach and stitched him up. The next day, he woke up in massive pain. He went back to hospital. They took X-ray just to see the souvenir in his belly. We gave him a nickname 'Scissor'.

[@NathanM229]

That didn’t happen, why? Cause scissor is a shit nickname

[@hanhanthegreat]

That sounds absolutely horrifying 😢 seems he ended up alright though?

[@Tofu-jg8ou]

Did you sue the doctor?

[@Oomfne]

surgery and was at home the next day? Sounds like a made-up story

[@DumplingDoodle]

@@Oomfne how have you never heard of an outpatient surgery

[@paullowell3342]

This isn’t what an honest professional does. “I was going to let them suffer from my mistakes until it was convenient” is criminal

[@alexanderherzog3064]

That's why the airline industry doesn't't have a system of blame but a system focused on making sure mistakes don't happen again

[@byronhenry6518]

Hence why we haven’t had a fatal accident since 2009. There are many reasons why flying so safe these days, ASAP/NASA reporting is definitely one of them. I’m very proud of our industry in that regard. I wish other fields would follow that example.

[@theboogieman4362]

I know they say its better to ask for forgiveness than permission but the bottom line is that is someones life your willingly jeopardizing. Being a doctor means you have level of accountability by default

[@askele-tonofgaming4878]

it just sucks that he isn't like "im a doctor and as a doctor I made a mistake, contact the patient so we can remedy this mistake" But then the hospital lawyers would say "No, you're fired and we will be revoking your medical license." They might not even contact the patient and just outright try to scrub the doctor out of the records to hide such a mistake!

[@woutervanr]

This environment of fear and keeping quiet that the medical field has created is only making stuff worse. People make mistakes. I'd rather have someone operate on me that has made a few mistakes, owned up to them and learned from them than some who "hasn't" and hasn't yet made any.

[@myadoll79]

This happened to me when I was young and had my appendix taken out. The wound area got infected and started oozing green pus. Found out they left a sponge inside and had to have a second surgery to remove it. All I got was an, "Ooops...sorry".

[@pam6116]

He was never going to say anything to anyone ever. That much is very clear.

[@Pipppo]

How tf do you drop a towel into someone and not know?? Lmaooo bro deserved to be sued in the show.

[@leaharris189]

During surgery, towel or gauze are used to clean up the tissues inside. They get drenched with blood and when that happens it would be easy to lose them in the body cavity. That is why it is crucial to do sponge count before and after every surgery.

[@ryounin9192]

That's when you know he's actually a good actor, when his character is supposed to be iritating and he delivers

[@ST4RB0M]

there's no room for mistakes when you're literally inside someone bruv

[@fredrikcarlen3212]

Yeah, that's why you always check ID if she's too close to 18! Now that I think about it, I suspect you might have had something else in mind...

[@ST4RB0M]

@@fredrikcarlen3212 yo?

[@unclegeorgesspeedandfeed]

I made a mistake inside someone one-time, that mistake is 4 now. Lol

[@KingNicotine]

Then why do so many have such a weak pull-out game?

[@saml6223]

Here's my "I'm really the victim here" card.

[@BigBossIvan]

👏 👏 👏

[@q3znw6j88aywnwy]

they love that card

[@galacticcactus5530]

“He was going to tell the truth eventually” “he was just waiting for the right time” isn’t good enough. Especially when it comes to someone’s health. They don’t always have time to wait for you to get over your own pride.

[@LurkingCrassZero]

Even when caught out, doesn't miss a chance to speak of his greatness as a Dr.

[@Alexz5040]

Uhm no tf he basically just made an excuse for doctors who selfishly don’t say anything that could end up killing someone if they find out too late no excuses immediately speak up so no lives have to be lost and you wouldn’t be scolded for keeping in important information would you rather get scolded and go through a court case for someone who’s still alive or would you rather live your life knowing your stupidity and selfishness killed someone and then end up going through a case later on after an autopsy is performed after that your reputation is definitively destroyed

[@DJAeyonaxx]

Dude talking about fear of retribution but he didn't have the fear to report it 5 years before

[@Elle...]

That’s the point. That he wasn’t sure he messed up so he didn’t say anything until the patient had to come back. He was scared of getting in trouble if nothing actually came from it.

[@antman1001000]

​@@Elle...So basically an incompetent coward.

[@mag5235]

@@Elle...He was afraid of being held accountable for making a mistake that could put the patient in danger. He put himself ahead of his patient’s wellbeing and withheld that information in the hopes he would not be held accountable and conjured a disingenuous story in an attempt to ameliorate his selfish decision should his past mistake be made aware to others. He’s a narcissistic liar.

[@Elle...]

@@mag5235 he’s a fictional character lmao don’t make up stories about what he was secretly feeling. There is no actual indication that the writers in any way were making him out to be lying, the only “proof” is your assumption.

[@Henry-sd7vd]

@@Elle... Assumption? You’re literally doing the same thing lmao. The man cut corners and skipped the mandatory count procedures. The moment he did that, he was already guilty. The fact that he didn’t report it immediately makes him more guilty, regardless of if the patient’s health worsen or not, which it did, in this case. He made a mistake and hid it in fear of retribution until he was called out for it. He isn’t fit to be a doctor if he was willing to let someone die to cover up his mistake.

[@Bluffton3]

I had a sponge left in me for several months. Sponge count was correct. Instrument count was correct but they closed anyway. A sponge is a 4x4 gauze square with a blue thread in it. The thread shows up opaque on sun X-ray. The gauze won’t and will rot away in your body. How do I know? I was a surgical tech for years in NY and that’s the only thing you have control over. Count 40 in snd 40 out and you don’t close your patient. I had a 5th Ave. surgeon in NYC in a world known hospital. Yes, I sued them both and won. I didn’t even have to prove liability!

[@barbaricboi8905]

The way the black nurse talked at the end, as if the doctor didn’t just admit to 5 years worth of passive-malpractice in the form on not saying a damn thing 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@sonnasolod.9406]

That’s why as medical professionals. We gotta listen to the inner voice when It says to check up on something with the patient. Or something looks off. We have the gift where it’s a little louder than some others. Listen to it.

[@Kela89]

Eh...Yes ppl can do mistakes but this 'mistake' is someones life in pain. If you cant work underground pressure or you dont have enough time to check patient maybe you shouldnt be a surgeon

[@BlueV205]

I was raised in a family of doctors, and even though I didn't become one (mainly because I didn't want to), I was told that integrity matters the most to a profession, especially to a doctor. Doctors are not allowed to make mistakes (cause if they do, someone's life will be in jeopardy), but humans can never not make mistakes. Admitting when you DO make mistakes is part of keeping your integrity. It's better to be remembered as a doctor who made a mistake and admitting it instead of a doctor who killed a patient cause he didn't report his mistake.

[@imdraconlion3357]

“just wanted to wait for the right time” the right time was 5years ago

[@Gumshoe88]

once again “its not my fault i didnt say anything” and you wonder why we have too many lawyers

[@georgebrantley776]

Doctor: "I think I did something wrong here. I should tell the patient about it so we can check." Lawyers looming nearby "LOL. Tell the patient and we sue you to oblivion." And we wonder why doctors don't own up to things.

[@MaccyCheeze]

NO! PLEASE! DON'T HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ACTIONS!! 😭😭

[@admirallily]

I’m not in medical, but I have made mistakes that could’ve cost our small company lots of money and produced long term financial consequences. Guess what I did when I realized my mistake and thought I might very well be fired. I immediately told the freaking truth, resigning myself to losing my job. Because I told, problems were mitigated and my boss was grateful for my quick honesty. He actually comforted me in my distress and told me how grateful he was to have me. I guarantee I make way less than a doctor so forgive me if I still think a doctor should lose his or her license and face criminal negligence for withholding his suspicions for five years in a case like this. We are all faced with choices to either live out professed character or hide and try to protect ourselves. If I can do it then the doctor who has literal lives in his or her hands should too. Speak up instantly and reduce the consequences.

[@byronhenry6518]

This is how it works for the aviation industry and it’s one of the reasons why it’s so safe. If a pilot makes an honest mistake, you come clean, file the reports, and be truthful, you’re very unlikely to be in trouble. Depending on the nature of the screw up, you may undergo testing or remedial training, and get back to flying when everyone’s happy.

[@ninelivesryder5645]

New fear unlocked: Surgery

[@gabrielkawa3477]

It took that long?

[@beckywegner5288]

The truth always brings retribution to the teller, regardless of what job or personal circumstances

[@emmalanihewett]

That same thing happened to my Nana a few years ago. She rapidly got sick once her don’t figured out it was there, they did surgery n took it out she made a full recovery n sued the hospital for it n won

[@philipadams3325]

That was a freaking beach towel.😅

[@thadnakao7585]

He then proceeded to pull out a beach umbrella and cooler full of beer …

[@Arkid77777]

Bro really said “I’m only human after all.”

[@CRS-fe2zj]

They did this to my grandmother during a surgery to attempt to remove cancer, they left a spongey mesh material inside her.