Surrender - Cheap Trick - Live Rockpalast 1983

[@johnpatterson4272]

I'm still waiting for this '83 Rockpalast show to be offered on CD/LP/ DVD. It was magical, Cheap Trick at their musical best. A time when most of us real fans thought the band had disappeared, they were cookin' hardcore in Europe. Bring it back.

[@Shikta-poobah67]

Even during those dark years when they were turning out one crap album after another, CT remained a great live act… even with “boring” Jon Brant on bass. There’s an 18 year gap when they didn’t make a decent album between 1979 and 1997, but I saw them live many times in that period and they still kicked serious ass.

[@ashleemcdermott17]

@@Shikta-poobah67 Seriously though! Im 29 and digging into their music history and its incredible!

[@theoriginalsurferbob]

I saw Cheap Trick open for KISS in 1977.

[@sherryd3299]

There's never been a better looking man than Robin Zander. One of the best voices in rock and roll. What a great band!

[@brittdanielrocks]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸 🎸 🌹

[@danriley5848]

One of the greatest rock bands ever. 🤘

[@Brewzerr]

Perfect tempo for this song. Much more exciting

[@junes2k]

everything about this performance is perfect. absolutely nailed it. incredible

[@Almamater8888]

I love the drums in this! Thank you for posting this. It's a wonderful moment in rock & roll history. One for the ages.

[@superpotiron]

This faster version is absolutely awesome ! And what about the drummer !!!!

[@TwansMusic]

Yeah I like the feel and sound of it, its why I decided to go for this style on my cover.

[@everomea]

Awesome! They rock! I love them in the early years i still love them until now. Long live you guys!

[@brittdanielrocks]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸 🎸 🌹

[@chrispile3878]

Incredible rocking band.

[@Platewarp]

This song is a great lesson in modulation!

[@robertokinks7251]

BUN E. CARLOS DRUM MASSACRE! GREAT!!! VIVA!

[@RobertNixAlternativeArtist]

Bun E.Carlos really drives the band.

[@ronkonkoma7718]

Tom Petersson on bass is killer but maybe feed this into real speakers, hold on I'll turn the computer sub up to 11.

[@TwansMusic]

I loved the drums so much on this that for my cover of this song I tried to copy this beat as closely as possible

[@Brewzerr]

@@ronkonkoma7718 You do know that's Jon Brant playing bass here, right?

[@elokiddies7545]

absolutely

[@ronkonkoma7718]

Remember the story Ralph Nielsen told young Rick in his Rockford IL music store "Someday son YOU will be striding across the stage to shrieks and yells holding a FIVE NECK GUITAR bigger than you are now!" "No way dad"

[@logangarner3635]

I love Cheap Trick

[@brittdanielrocks]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸 🎸 🌹

[@crazygetup]

Bun E. Carlos is a beast.

[@beavis408]

most underrated band of all time.

[@Brewzerr]

Um, they've sold over 20 million records, been inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame, and have a massive worldwide fanbase. Yes, they're a great band... one of the best ever... but they are definitely *NOT* "underrated".

[@dlarovere]

The five neck guitar is a gas!! It had been stolen one time and he got it back. It was built by Jol Dantzig and the fine crew at Hamer guitars. It's just one of those rockstar luxuries you get to partake in when you've got more money than god at the time. Cheap Trick still rocks it hard.

[@robertthomas5736]

Bun E Carlos, was a Musical Genius, just like Tito Puente and Billy Thorpe

[@Brewzerr]

Now there's an odd pairing.

[@Platewarp]

Great live band

[@dwdeclare1965]

robin zander is beautiful

[@janiceschiffman4659]

dw declare he's the most beautiful man I have ever seen

[@bassmanrick]

You rock Bun E Carlos

[@hondaus90]

kickass guitar

[@kg5zx]

the 5 neck guitar looks fucking heavy

[@QueenNatasha_KingGibson8501]

I imagine that it's even expensive than any guitar

[@Liam123-r8o]

This was definitely a hommage/parody to/of jimmy paiges double neck guitar.

[@briankburdick667]

Bun E plays so tight!!

[@tonychammond]

rock ya .. : ).. beauty..

[@childishtombino1275]

The sound of the 12 string guitar on the choruses is insane...

[@vinorama58]

@vinorama58 my mistake, they were touring with a live keyboardist during this tour but did use a recording of the keyboard part on Surrender on other various tours

[@meneocuskill3371]

Is that one big-ass guitar or not? Never seen anything like it ... cool

[@GIBBIE7777]

Bun. E. Carlos!!!!

[@vinorama58]

they seem to be playing to a recording of the keyboard part from the studio album. sometimes they would do it, sometimes they wouldn't. their live performances were exceptional during this period with or without keyboards

[@ValkyrieAdventuresPNW]

Back in the 80s bands used to “hide” a hired keyboard player who would hang out just off stage or sometimes behind the band. I know Cheap Trick and Rush did it because I saw it…back in the 80s.

[@samyoung9079]

Love the copy of dynasty that Robin throws into the audience

[@Brewzerr]

Ugh. Disco KISS. That album deserves to be broken into a million pieces after being flung into a throng of amped-up German Cheap Trick fans

[@Christine16425]

@@Brewzerr I was made for....KISS forever

[@monteirojoseaugusto]

Vida longa ao Rock'n'Roll

[@ScottMurphy76]

Bun E Carlos is the god damn man

[@NintendoSinceBirth1]

i dont listen to cheap trick really but the 5 neck guitar i saw attracted my attention haha

[@augustolyonbenoit5605]

Mi banda favorita de éste estilo crecí con ellos de pendejo cuando los escuché quede enamorado de su sonido y estilo gracias por tantos años de música de verdad que aún resuenan en el mundo entero ✌️✌️🤘🤘🤘🤘🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸💪

[@ERIC-65]

"Wo bleibt die Gitarre?" there was talk about a giveaway guitar all night long then, but it never happened! It was a "Hamer Phantom with the German flag paint job! As the crowd left the venue somebody screamed up" Where is the guitar? "Live on german TV.

[@bareveldskanaal3887]

Maybe somebody smashed it so they could not give it away anymore.

[@ballssss433s66]

HE JUMPED WITH THE 5 NECK!!!!

[@42lookc]

He didn't jump high, but he jumped none the less! lol

[@GyouzerButtler]

Why？ the Robin throw away KISS's LP...???

[@Brewzerr]

Because it's a horrible album that should be destroyed

[@Christine16425]

@@Brewzerr pfff, C T, gets along very well with Kiss they opened for again this year Paul Stanley was delighted , keep you posted (France)

[@Christine16425]

Kiss has put them in the spotlight for a long time and this year too KISS loves them .

[@77GGSS]

This version, albeit very 80's Wave due to the synth, is heavily rockin.

[@Brewzerr]

Yeah, the keys are way too hot in the mix. They should just be barely audible. During this period they took a regular keyboard player with them on tour. A guy called Magic Christian. He was a bit heavy handed, but I guess that's what they wanted at the time. The early 80's were the golden age of synth rock after all

[@bwdrums1]

Jesus, they're playing this fast !

[@NandorTheRelentless76]

+bwdrums1 either the cocaine is making them all play too fast or Rick's guitar is so damn heavy he wants the song to be over quick. LOL

[@tt14life90]

+lighthammer1976 this whole concert was super fast

[@MrSKINFLICK]

Playing fast only for a great German festival crowd....!

[@MrSKINFLICK]

If you play on cocaine THIS FAST can soon end up in a mess. Guess he was on (good) pep.....coke's crap anyway....

[@Brewzerr]

Sounds better at this tempo. More energy, more exciting

[@homersimpson8561]

I have a mini version of Ricks 5-neck.

[@ogechixx4375]

Rock tho 👌

[@tt14life90]

this whole concert was super fast

[@Brewzerr]

Probably because it was a longer than usual set list. This was televised on German TV, and they were trying to pack as many songs as possible into their set. It stands to reason they'd speed the tempo up a bit. Either that, or Bun E stumbled on to some really pure cocaine that night.

[@djw1964jdiv]

Where's the drummer's cigarette?

[@sgtpepper1138]

If I recall it was about 25-28lbs. The later checkerboard one I think was a few pounds lighter.

[@GIBBIE7777]

BUN E CARLOS!!!!

[@ronlafreniere7345]

cheap trick rules then now and forever

[@jemogan]

@Hindoeisme Bun went to the same high school I did here in Denver. Cheap Trick played at the halftime show for the AFL championship game, and from what I've read Bun wasn't there because he was ill - so his son filled in for him! That was a great show. They were obviously older than this and the did sound better, but the energy wasn't as high.

[@ronkonkoma7718]

Drumming and back issues I could see so he's sort of semi-retired with his own band

[@Brewzerr]

Nope. Bun E never went to high school in Denver. He attended Guilford HS in Rockford Illinois. Try again.

[@jemogan]

@@Brewzerr You're right! I came across that bit of misinformation many years ago, probably before we had the internet to check these things out. I can't remember where I got it at all. Of course it stuck in my head because of my local 'connection'. Thanks for correcting me. I still think he's pretty cool, nontheless.

[@homersimpson8561]

And faces it melted

[@peters501]

Could you just imagine being this guy's guitar tech?

[@MrSKINFLICK]

By the way: Rick Nielsen is heavily influenced by Pete Townshend (The Who), one oft the 5 best + most influential rock guitarists ever ! Listen to "The Who - Live At Leeds" + you know where his inspiration cums from !

[@Brewzerr]

I could think of much worse jobs

[@travisdillard2393]

To melt faces.

[@skeletalwreck]

A full re-string job for his sound tech must be a total pain in the ass.

[@AlienAndrew51]

Well I wouldn't complain if I had a job being a tech or anything to do with music for that matter. It's awesome that you get to fix guitars all day instead of being stressed out working at some shitty fast food joint that you don't want to be at because you could be one step closer to doing what you really want to do if thats working in a studio/musician/ or engineer.

[@Brewzerr]

I can think of many much worse jobs

[@anidroc]

Hmm.not sure..are there some keyboards here? SORT IT OUT ,YOU LOUD PERSON :-0

[@Brewzerr]

Yeah, Magic Christian was annoying imo. He never changed the tone away from that twinkly, high-pitched crap. That may have worked on a few songs from the "One on One" album, but here on Surrender and a few other songs it's just grating. I wasn't unhappy when he left Cheap Trick.

[@applesAndCamelCasing]

This sounds better than Budokan

[@MrSKINFLICK]

Absolutely correct opinion. They should have released this as a live album/video/DVD....! Thanks god we got in here on KZbin, uploaded by themselves. I recorded it on a HQ video recorder way back in 1994 when there was a re-run of the concert on German TV.

[@childishtombino1275]

Colin Ashenhurst I personally love the Budokan version but for different reasons. I like the way the sound has been mixed in Budokan. I have quite a few live versions of this song downloaded lmao

[@Brewzerr]

I don't know about that. This is definitely a great version. I love the faster tempo, but the keyboards are way to high in the mix here and Jon Brant is boring af. At least on Budokan it's Tom playing bass, plus it was a brand new song at the time (as Robin lets us know) and has that more spontaneous "new song vibe" to it. This version is more high energy, but the Budokan version swings better.

[@djw1964jdiv]

Imagine the feedback from so many pickups....

[@childishtombino1275]

They aren’t all on at the same time

[@Grule100]

because its fuckin badass

[@fatkhetburnell]

They did Bun E Carlos dirty. Ain't that a shame.

[@stephenbrown7545]

Why are they playing it so fast? Slow it the hell down it will sound better.

[@Brewzerr]

Nope. Sounds perfect at this tempo. More energy. The keyboards could stand to come down in the mix though

[@dukeofkbs]

Soundman.....press the "MUTE" button on the mixing board channel marked "KEYBOARDS". Thank you.....

[@Brewzerr]

Thank god I'm not the only one who feels this way

[@jaogenio]

O kra ja tem 2 braços so faltam mais 3 pra conseguir tocar a guitarra

[@cellogang2768]

why is my maths substitute teacher the drummer of cheap trick

[@Shikta-poobah67]

On one hand it sounds great being played a little faster, but the synths are up too high and it’s annoying. They should only barely be audible. Other than that, this is a killer performance. Bun E was on fire.

[@feloniousmonkx]

I think he needs more guitars

[@Schecter1989]

@Android624 cause he can lol

[@hoppinonabronzeleg]

If you broke a string wouldn't be such a problem. you wouldn't burn up on re-entry

[@homersimpson8561]

I don't think so, he has hundreds.

[@homersimpson8561]

He actually used 3

[@homersimpson8561]

Don't worry, nobody understands Rick Nielsen

[@GreatestPotential]

Rick Nielsen, man with six necks.

[@sibior17]

ça c'est une guitare !!!

[@JoshCartman]

He played 3 of them. Pay attention, snake.

[@joe22589]

The keys sound horrible!!!

[@Brewzerr]

Agreed. Magic Christian was his name, and they brought him along for every tour from '82 through '86. He never changed the tone on his keys, and always played in that annoying high-pitched, plinky modulation. It really sounded awful on the old classic tracks. I was happy when he left CT.

[@677moonpie]

Cheap Trick is a good band and all but a five neck guitar is kinda stupid. It would damn near be impossible to play the fifth neck and the fourth neck would be a stretch. A three neck is what he needs at most. That thing is gotta be heavy as hell too.

[@timmullens9479]

I agree -thought these guys were too good to need gimmicks -bunny is awesome in this though

[@statingthe_obvious6309]

the bottom neck is only really there to rest on a stool while they tune it... more of a leg than a neck.

[@biodot88]

677moonpie Rick was in tight with Hamer guitars at the time and they were throwing all kinds of ideas around. It was meant to be outrageous rather than practical.

[@lastdaysguitar]

+677moonpie That kind of limited thinking is why HE is a rock star, and YOU are not! You sound very jealous and envious.

[@timmullens9479]

+lastdaysguitar WAS a rock star also once you are labeled jealous ,being envious as well is probably not possible-I've had the same argument on another sight-I said playing multiple -necked guitars seems pretentious to me IMHO -but I can't play so my envy is not a factor -I love Cheap Trick.

[@Tiiboumania]

And weighs a FUCKLOAD

[@WilliamSlaght]

5 necked guitar? seriously? useless... but still... seriously insane! lol you can't even play the 2 bottom necks!

[@franimallxxx]

Who doesn't want to a five neck guitar

[@peters501]

me.