Time for a New Recurve Bow - Which one is it?

[@SurvivalLilly]

I wanted a new bow and I am highly impressed by the products the company Mandarin Duck send to me for free. If you are interested in their products here is their website: www.mandarinduck.net/ref/725/

[@Martin-xx2kw]

You are so cool!

[@johngonzalez1193]

What kind of shooting glove are you using? Also where'd you get the quiver?

[@landonw8982]

@@johngonzalez1193 not sure on the glove but she made the quiver in another vid.

[@SCSlimBoiseID]

I love it that you are an instinctive shooter, rather than relying on sights. Nothing against those who prefer sights, but I grew up learning to shoot instinctively, so I relate better to that method. Cheers.

[@FallenAnvilForge]

If your not gonna use it anymore, can I have your old bow?

[@deanmignola5448]

As someone who just recently started archery, I find your videos to be really delightful and inspirational... especially this one.

[@kanyinak]

Nice little review. I just bought the Cantor riser, the one that you ended up with.

[@caseysmith544]

By ILF she means the new ILF hunting bows, before recently in 2010's ILF bows were made mostly as Target Bows. Before 2010's when there was less hunting ILF models, some people took the smaller 17 inch/43 cm -- 19 inch /48 cm riser ILF bows and made them into hunting bows for there use using either the Medium 68 inch/173 cm at 25 inch/63.5 cm or the used the short 66 inch/167.5 cm at 25 inch/63.5 cm riser. There were some due to wanting higher limbs or wanting something cheaper like a beginner ILF setup might even take the standard 23 inch -- 25 inch/58.5 cm -- 63.5 cm Olympic ILF bow and spray the thing like they did the limbs if need be on those with a single color or make a bow using some of the Rust Oleum military style Camo paint that most militaries now use for needs in the field when using spray paints as well. The ILF was once considered for Olympic and Barebow target stuff only by those who did that coemption or liked to do target shooting for fun. Now they have up to 25 inch/63.5 cm in the hunting styles for people who want to hunt or use hunting bows say for barebow target/field rounds not needing the older less used limb attachments like the F/Flat that is not always standard from bow brand to bow brand but can be found more in a few standard sizes within a company or the more common others non F styles made just for that bow model.

[@ESAPOWER]

Hey Lily! Just wanted to say - don't be afraid of having the wood bow worked down more for your hand; as long as the handle remains thicker than the groove your thumb wraps around, then the bow shouldn't break! You can customise the fit of the grip to your hand quite easily with a rasp and/or file. :) Happy shooting, I'm so jealous; here in the UK our ranges are closed 'cus of the lockdown.

[@PurpleDracos]

One thing to remember switching the same limbs between those risers of different lengths will change the draw weight about a pound higher for every inch shorter the over all bow length gets and the opposite for longer. This is important to think about when buying limbs. There are some limbs Made for traditional bows where the draw weight is measured on a 17” riser but it is more usual for figures to be given for use on a 25” riser or possibly a 23” riser you will usually see this written as two draw weight values on the limb about 2 pounds apart. If you want to make a specific draw weight for your draw length you will also need to take into account draw length as the standard for measuring is 28”, this can change though for bows only make to be used at shorter draw lengths. So when I wanted to make a 35 pound 62” bow with my 17” riser I bought long 28 pound limbs as my draw length is only slightly over 28”. With the bow being 8” shorter than the 70” bow the weight written on the limbs is for the weight increased by roughly 8 pounds. The adjustment on the riser then let me fine tune the tiller and draw weight when tuning the arrows.

[@Pygapascoe160]

Hi purpledracos. So I’ve just bought a mandarin duck ILF Recurve online and chose a 17” riser with 43” 50lb limbs giving me a 60” bow with 50lbs. From what you say here, as my riser is so short (for hunting) compared to the 25” riser my ACTUAL draw weight will be 58lbs which is way higher than I want. Would I be correct in assuming this is what you mean in your explanation? My draw length is 28.5”.

[@PurpleDracos]

@@Pygapascoe160 It depends on how the limbs are rated. If they are usually meant for recurve archery there will be one or two sets of figur

[@johnwfriedmanjr1850]

Thanks for the info. It is very useful to someone looking into archery for the first time.

[@rastamanchant4688]

Congrats Lilly on ur new bow. Very informative vid. I've been looking for something like this bow to be compacted.

[@mikeroadblock]

How cool.

[@swenschroder6230]

Wirklich sehr schön dir zu zusehen wie du Bogen schießt. Wünsche dir viel Spaß dabei. .... Gruß Swen

[@ldn0224]

Congrats on marriage. Your shooting has gotten better. Love your thick wrist guard!!

[@dominicks5559]

Hi survival Lilly watching your videos has inspired me to get back out into the woods and to continue my survival survivalist skills and to pick up a bow and arrow again thank you for your videos and the tremendous enthusiasm you bring to the screen you are a remarkable, and talented young lady looking forward to see more of your videos thank you !

[@moc5541]

The wood there is a rather durable kind of wood, as wood goes... it's laminated. Basically it's plywood, thin sheets of wood glued together. The laminations give the general appearance of wood grain, but that's not what you're looking it; it's the edges of the thin sheets. That makes it pretty much immune to splitting because the grain direction in the thin sheets is shifted from one layer to another.

[@Maddawwg45]

my dad gave me a 30lb ben pearson laminated wood recurve bow when i was 16 ( like 1985 lol ) and i loved it and i wish i choulda told 16 year old me to hang on to it ughhhh

[@philt5782]

I had a Ben Pearson bow too. It was awesome. I leant it out to a friend in 1985. I was sixteen then also. How weird is that. I never saw that bow again.... some friend.

[@brina6063]

I’m 16 right now and I’ve been shooting for eight years. I shoot a compound but I’ve always wanted to get into recurves. Any recommendations? My compound is a 40lbs btw, and since I’m a girl I can’t pull as much as somebody else could at my age, so I’m just putting that out there if it helps any😂

[@caseysmith544]

Was my guess a Kadet or Cadet bow then made since that bow was a 28-30 pound bow with a few higher models at 32 or 33 pounds.

[@IceMan191089]

maybe you can change the plastic grip to an wood grip if you want it nicer looking :D

[@vincentdaura1520]

I also bought the same kind of bow with 35 pounds and added a hunting scope. No visette on the string and I can aim with both eyes open by aligning the points of the sight with the target and also aligning the arrow and I stay with one finger above the notch and the other two below. Index finger always on the corner of the lips It's awesome. Merci for this vidéo.

[@dennis77710]

Congratulations on the new bow! That sound you heard on the first 2 shots is the limbs settling into the limb pockets. You should always check string is within the string grooves and push in the limbs until the limbs settle into the limb pockets. Before you mess around with the Tillering of the bow, I would suggest you write down the amount of turns you make on the Tillering Bolt. Learn the weight of your limbs, at what Draw length they are measured by the manufacturer, and what the recommended BH range is for your specific bow. Also, Tillering’s main purpose is for tuning the bow to affect brace height in order reduce vibration, string noise and limb slap. The plus and minus of the 2 pounds is just a side affect of the Tillering, but it also throws off your bow tuning. Cat whiskers, and anything else used to reduce vibration should be used until after bow tuning is done, you will likely not need much after tuning it properly. lastly, I wouldn’t mess with the Limb/riser alignment (screws on the side of the limb pockets) unless it is REALLY necessary. It may be a painful or expensive experience, if not done properly. I know, you may know most of what I mentioned, but if it helps one person from breaking a limb or making a mistake with their bow, it was forth typing this comment.

[@Kurtdog63]

One down side of metal riser is that metal is extremely cold to hold onto while hunting for long periods of time. All my recurves, and long bow are wood, but for my metal riser compounds, I have glued a piece of felt on the front of the handle to help insulate my fingers from the cold aluminum/magnesium. Do metal recurve risers seem to make recurve bow more noisy? I like the break down and quick take down set up.

[@rubinmuslake]

The sound of the arrow hitting the bulls-eye is so satisfying :D great vid once again Lilly

[@mouglibv]

I love the armguard!

[@chrismullin8304]

Lilys' arm protector reminded me of Skyrim bracers.

[@stefansdedals3074]

Good point!

[@alexandercarder2281]

Still waiting for the next elder scrolls game. I’m a Skyrim nut

[@vadimmalinovskiy8970]

Lilly shot me right in the heart! :)

[@truckshackley373]

You could always spray the plastic grip with Plasti-Dip if you want to change the colour or give it a more rubbery feel

[@friskywildthing]

You are tearing it up with that instinctive aim, Lilly. I never heard of the ILF system 'til now. I haven't shot a bow in a while. 👍❤

[@earlyoung2863]

Lol, I just told your friend, Vanessa, the other day, that I think YOU have such good "form", when you shoot. I think (myself) that you would do well in competitions . I see a lot of versatility in your new bow. Glad you "treated" yourself. Good for you!!! ☝

[@greenhoodedvigilante458]

2:31 The riser in the middle (forgot the name) has draw weight changing feature, but I guess other two don't have. Because those risers don't have locking screw behind the limb bolts like the middle one.

[@SurvivalLilly]

you dont need the lock screw to unscrew the limb bolts. when you losen compound bows you also dont have this lock screw. it is a neat feature but not a must have

[@greenhoodedvigilante458]

@@SurvivalLilly But most of the ILF risers I know about, most of the Olympic bows for example, they have locking screw behind the limb bolts, like you have on riser in the middle, the 19 inch one. But the other two risers don't have those. I don't know if it's a new system or not. But most of the ILF riser I have seen, you need to loosen the locking screw in the back, then wind in or out the limbs bolts with hex range to change the draw weight, then the locking screw needed to be tighten again.

[@lavioyantoos7390]

Miss Lilly love what you do and nothing against modern equipment but I must say personally I have to stay with an old classic in 1978 Dad gave me his Bear 75 lb recurve been hunting with ever since more wild game in my freezer. Sometimes older is just better

[@di9italzero500]

I wish there were more like you.

[@alexandercarder2281]

This is the video that coursed me to buy a bow. And I purchased this exact bow from Mandarin duck 🦆 it’s taken ages to arrive though but is now in Belgium and will be arriving any day now.

[@CharlesSmith-ye3fv]

I like the Light One.👍 45 pound. Left Hand.

[@CharlesSmith-ye3fv]

I like your old bow 45 Pound,TO

[@larrycarman91399]

I’ve subscribed & watched your channel for years now. I believe 5 or 6. I still enjoy watching because if you’re diversity of content plus your in-depth description of your topics. Also Lilly as you have grown older you seem to have gotten not only healthier but happier 😊. Congratulations on your success with your channel. I did enjoy your rifle shooting segments and the description of the beautiful rifle you acquired. Thanks for a wonderful channel & continued success. 👍👍

[@jimrogers9253]

lilly, thanks for another very interesting video. there is always something to learn. godspeed. JDR

[@NorthwoodsSolutions]

ILF isn't new, Hoyt developed it in 1981.

[@SurvivalLilly]

it is newer than the old system. and it took some time until other brands got on the train as well.

[@bigjoe8922]

The wood riser was beautiful. Thanks to you for the info. I’m new to Bows and looking for a recurve

[@thizizliz]

That woodwn one is gorgeous but if it doesn't fit your hand, you are better off wothvthe smaller one to which you adapted in no time. Enjoy!

[@dsdssdsd283]

Thanks for the video. The slim metal riser looks like a Morrison knockoff. I had a Morrison riser just like that years ago. Handles real nice

[@BraxxJuventa]

Thanks for this great review Lilly! 👍😁

[@darrelkopsa7143]

Recurves have certainly come a long way, and so has your shooting, Lilly!!

[@sslajpah]

The first riser looks like diamondwood, a laminate made from thin pieces of wood and resing. Like the one used in Black Hunter.

[@Australian_Made]

I love Lilly's videos so much. I immediately liked the middle bow the best, and really really hoped that Lilly would pick the middle one as her favourite one, too. Win-win !!!

[@scubamedia]

Thanks for the tip! I Just recieved my Mandarin Duck ILF bow - the smaller, metal one as it was planned for my daughter for her birthday. Before that I test shoot it for sure - and I am not sure if I want to give it away 😅 Very accurate, very nice in the hand - OK needed a little adjustments before first time using - but I like it very much. My own bow was four times the price (also almost four times the draw weight) but defenitely not four times better 👍

[@hey.hombre]

Thank you. I heard you say shooting 'bows' and arrows. I am so sick of hearing the pompous archery pundits who correct you when you say bows and arrows. Don't you mean archery they say sarcasticly. Well, screw you I shoot bows and arrows. Viva the sport of shooting bows and arrows.

[@philt5782]

@@WayneStLouis-cy4ln If you shoot a gun, the gun does not get launched downrange either. Go figure.

[@hey.hombre]

@@WayneStLouis-cy4ln Shooting break down bows and arrows. Archery is for weights, lasers and balancing rods much like bench shooting.

[@jamescooper2618]

You all have it wrong. You shoot a bow. The arrow is just a projectile. You shoot a rifle. The bullet is just a projectile. Archery is the sport of shooting longbows and recurves. We say bows and arrows because the two go together. No problem saying it either way.

[@ivanhajko2660]

@@WayneStLouis-cy4ln Hehe, I actually saw bow being launched down the range a couple of times. It usually happens when the archer forgets to fasten his bow sling. It did happen to me as well :)

[@lburrsshinyhunts2253]

@@philt5782 guess we’d have to say shooting bullets only

[@billcotton1551]

I love that style of recurve bow.

[@erichughes2024]

Congratulations on your new bow Lily! I love how it shoots. Congrats! 👏

[@jamieoliver7947]

That stillness in the moment where every "thing" melts away when you settle into the shooting of the bow 💚🙏

[@thegardener8694]

Im here for it lily! Much love WARRIOR GODDESS!

[@THEDARKSIDEUNDERGROUND]

😉🤘🏻❤️👊🏻🔥

[@jacobmadden110]

I'm really upset that so many companies have great looking products and are only for right handed 😔

[@meat-hook]

I have an SAS Explorer riser ($20 at a pawn shop) that I've used several limbs on. After my first rabbit stew I loved it even more. I use a compound for most hunting, but I prefer the feel of a simple recurve. What arrows do you prefer? I have 3 sets of Carbon Injection for different uses. I also really like the mismatched set of Easton shafts that I collected at the range.

[@corsicaexplorationmysteres9965]

Thank you very much, very nice demonstration.

[@jamescooper2618]

I.L.F. stands for International Limb Fit. Meaning you can get one riser and swap out limbs from other companies.

[@alexandercarder2281]

Yeah and I chose the wrong bloody bow because. I ended up getting the phantom 56 one which has t got ilf. What do I know? It’s my first ever bow.

[@jamescooper2618]

@@alexandercarder2281 It's not mandatory to have, just a different way of ding it. I have many great bows and none of them are ILF. Tune up what you have and shoot it!

[@Pibydd]

Not exactly new technology. I've got my old recurve hanging on the wall. I don't know the make but the limbs just snap into place. Bought it well used in 1974.

[@ivanhajko2660]

Yeah, I thing Hoyt came with what became later ILF in 1971 with Hoyt TD but I could be wrong and it was even earlier. Anyways it is like 50 years old system now :)

[@NPC-fl3gq]

Buy yourself a nicer arrow rest that's more adjustable and that will give you better clearance with larger (variety and sized) fletchings.

[@tmalonso]

is there some felt where the limbs make contact with the riser? if not, it might be worth adding for a little extra sound dampening, especially for when things aren't seated perfectly, the felt might also allow for slightly misaligned limbs to slip back into place a little more quickly too...I really like the looks of a fully wooden riser but the reliability of a metal riser is undeniable

[@lylewollenhaupt7424]

This reminds me of my first bow as a wee lad,a shakespeare recurve. Fun little video,enjoy the sport lilly.

[@grantbuchanan2953]

What draw weight and what length are the arrows??? I think that would be important !!!!

[@brendawiseman1232]

Hi from Allen and Brenda from New Brunswick Canada nice have a good day we love your voice

[@barriobigfoot2687]

I noticed they have two different ILF comparable limbs, the Razor (which has a foam core), and the Splinter (which has a bamboo core) and was wondering which one you might recommend. I believe you’re using the Razor in the current video?

[@WhiteFeather1x]

I’ll have to check them out. Thanks

[@coytheboy]

Mandarin duck is for beginners. A good rider would be from gillo, hoyt, spigarelli ect.

[@chrismullin8304]

I went to the outdoor store yesterday and noticed almost all ammo was gone and barely any guns. You know what section was full of stock? The bows and arrows!

[@darkdamagedrose8578]

Honestly seeing you shoot your bow is super inspirational, at this point screw guns I want me a bow😂

[@dennistaylor5052]

That's what the Indians said

[@darkdamagedrose8578]

@@dennistaylor5052 haha that’s true and I mean who could blame em bows are awesome!

[@jamescooper2618]

You ever watch a really good skeet shooter? They make it look so easy, it makes you want to do it. There are many female skeet shooters as well.

[@theflockfather4377]

Great video Lilly!

[@handiman5]

:40...Spouse?? Oh no, my hopes and dreams have been crushed!! Seriously, I always enjoy and learn from your videos!! Thank you and tell your spouse how lucky he is!!

[@deborahanderson5508]

Im sure she knows.

[@robertlogan9682]

You assume it's a he.

[@williampatience6461]

Thanks, good to know.

[@cwalton56]

Enjoy your videos, Lilly. Is the quiver you have available here in the States?

[@logoseven3365]

So what was the final draw weight? Nice video

[@tomcody8215]

What is the draw weight of the limbs you are using?

[@fbibking3205]

If your looking for something lightweight try out either the SAS Ranger takedown bow or the Xpectre Rapture if your on a budget.

[@jasontaylor9871]

Lilly most have watched too many Rambo movies! Wait until she see's The Walking Dead, it'll be nothing but cross bows after that.

[@larykenobi]

Walking Dead has been around for the last 10 years

[@obsidianrider6277]

Lilly, how do you compare the Mandarin Duck ILF VS Black Hunter bow and what draw weight do you prefer?

[@no1slisteninganyway]

Can you swap the wooden hand grip on the heavy riser with the plastic one?

[@killashaks2929]

Love your videos so much! you're super cool, and really honest thank you and keep the videos coming 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@bobbyhernandez479]

Love your channel I been shooting bows scene's I was seven years I watch all your channels I'm a Chickasaw Native American from Oklahoma

[@bobbyhernandez479]

@David Erickson yes I was thinking about making one but I don't know it looks hard lol

[@bobbyhernandez479]

@David Erickson same here lol

[@bobbyhernandez479]

@David Erickson yeah that would be awesome

[@mikechristiansen6647]

Wow Lilly you are a serious bad ass. Very cool keep up the great work.

[@paulhiggins8774]

Great vid. Noticed you didn’t use your tube quiver any reason why

[@malcolmrobb488]

Of course, excellent video, very helpful, best!

[@marshallcierovola376]

Thanks for this review! I'm looking to buy one myself. Their website says each riser weighs the same 1.1 kg. Do they all really way the same? It seemed like you thought the "fancy" one weighed more.

[@SurvivalLilly]

I had the feeling that the big fancy one is more heavy. but honestly I didnt put it on a scale

[@marshallcierovola376]

@@SurvivalLilly no worries. Thanks for the input!

[@jameshiner67]

Hey Lilly,since you're holding the bow in your left hand that would make you a right hander? Meaning pulling the string? Like playing a guitar, strumming the strings. HEY PEOPLE IF LILLY DOESN'T ANSWER, PLEASE GIVE A HEADS UP ❤

[@SurvivalLilly]

yes it is a right handed bow

[@shanehumberstone5262]

Beautiful bows there,wish I still had a bow I loved the bow I had

[@yutahay1]

Damen Howett bow was the best recurve ever made. Just for the record!

[@jamescooper2618]

I think the Bear Super Kodiak would have a problem with that!

[@yutahay1]

@@jamescooper2618 I shot both, my statement stands!

[@jamescooper2618]

@@yutahay1 Hey, that's great! We all have our own likes and dislikes. DH certainly is an iconic bow and has its own cult following. A very desirable bow for many, especially on the used market. I have been in the Bear camp since I started in traditional archery long ago. From what I know of them, I have been very impressed with the record of the Kodiak and Super Kodiak. Take the Glock pistol for example. They are loved by many and are a quality piece, but I cant stand the things! LOL To each, his own.

[@idahomountainelk]

Looks like a light snow year.

[@justincarlson3134]

Sweet bow, Lilly!!

[@HannibalsSurplusReviews]

I have a wood riser compound bow from 1980S nothing wrong with it must be wood with fiberglass maybe

[@leonardopoli319]

The video is very nice and interesting, I am not a bow expert, I trust your choice. Hello, good day👍

[@paulotoole4950]

Something really bugged me about this video. the bit at the end were Lilly is taking about adjusting the weight of the limbs saying it makes the bow weight adjustable. It is an ILF limb fitting bow, you can have lots of different limbs for it in different weights. It is the big advantage in that you can increase you bow weight as you get better and stronger or you can upgrade as money allows.

[@JW-bw8nj]

With the ILF system, not only can you get limbs of different draw weights, you can also slightly change the draw weight of the same set of limbs. Here's an excerpt from an article talking about it: "ILf bows also have adjustable draw weight. Generally you will have about 10% of adjustment. The draw weight listed on the limb is often the median draw weight for that pair of limbs. Once tiller is set take a draw weight measurement. To increase draw weight, tighten both limb bolts evenly. If you do not adjust the top and bottom exactly the same amount, you will change the tiller. To decrease draw weight, loosen both limb bolts evenly. Remember, do not back out the limb bolts beyond the maximum allowance. After tiller and draw weight are set, recheck the brace height and adjust if necessary."

[@paulotoole4950]

@@JW-bw8nj That just sounds like a recipe for bow issues. One of the goals is repeatability so doing that to your bow just sounds like every time you use it you will have to deal with differences.

[@JW-bw8nj]

@@paulotoole4950 Yeah, I'm not personally familiar with ILF bows as all of mine are traditional recurves and one longbow, but my initial post was to simply inform you on what she was referring to in the video. Maybe I'll get an ILF bow one day to play around with and familiarize myself with the system, but I'm pretty darn happy with what I currently have. To each their own, but more parts=more that can go wrong. Not exactly the thing I look for in a "survival" bow.

[@Waldhandwerk]

Taugt ma a liebe Lilly ;) Sehr geübt und gute Wahl. Fesch dein selbst gemachter Armschutz! LG Sepp

[@dienovandale4299]

Laminated wood girl , that stuff lzstz FOREVER ! . CHEERS LIL !

[@hardipunyacerita5269]

What kind do you use arrow make it

[@certifiedweldor]

lilly , thanks for the information

[@GOBRAGH2]

Wow, standardization of bow parts! I've never heard of ILF until today. Are there any disadvantages to bows made using ILF parts? For example, are they more fragile or prone to breaking?

[@SurvivalLilly]

I dont think they are fragile at all. They are made from sturdy metal. Parts

[@vorgosv2563]

This is great! I like this ILF system!

[@charlessax4385]

Check out southwest archery for a Spyder.

[@joliet-larry5230]

Hi from Chicago great shot I have a cross bow

[@user-Abhilashjenamani]

What is the range of the the bow

[@whodat2259]

Can you please do a review on the wooden ilf riser 🙏🙏

[@danhold1]

Great job lilly

[@mrod7692]

Good choice

[@paulotoole4950]

Everyone except Hoyt use ILF. If you buy Hoyt it like buying an iPhone, it different to what everyone else uses.

[@VosperCDN]

That wood riser ... I want one !

[@153SCORN]

Oh I got a mandarin duck bow 😁. They very well priced.

[@garybroomfield6698]

great video Lilly. whats poundage are your limbs? I've heard that if you go for a shorter riser, it increases the poundage