Surviving as a Pilot | Spin Training

[@zachg9065]

“I don’t care about the runway at this point, I just care about living” LOL

[@sidchronicle2365]

As he does it intentionally 🤣🤣

[@PIlot1701D]

I think this is the best and most complete spin video I have seen. Great video. Thanks a lot!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks! Glad it helps!

[@LeFrench307]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 Your videos are both entertaining and highly educational. I can't thank you enough for providing the information! I am soaking it all up in hopes to make myself a better pilot!

[@josephgoss1013]

I agree

[@praneethkumar6316]

Instead of stalling the wing first do we get in to stall with only banking the wing left/right and giving full rudder left/right....do we need to really stall the aircraft to get into spin.

[@andymcwilliams2141]

I agree, when students think they know it all this is for them. When pvt pilots think they know it all and they usually do they should look at this twice.

[@daffidavit]

Remember all stalls and spins should be completed in a "climb". Spins and stalls intentionally done at high altitude are not dangerous, if done correctly. But if you should accidentally enter and successfully recover at an unsafe altitude, you should finish in a climb. That's what I was taught by an FAA inspector who taught me aerobatics in a Decathlon many years ago. It appears the pilot in this video did just that.

[@CatFish107]

As a non-pilot, and someone who doesn't even play flight sim video games, I was just curious about spins and how a pilot recovers. This is so well explained that I feel like even I've grasped the basics of the mechanics of what is going on. Great job!

[@erichert1001]

Unlike a lot of videos that just describe a skidding "base-to-final" turn and the resultant spin you actually talk about how to recover before it develops. Great video, thanks!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Glad it helps! Be sure to share us with your friends on FaceBook and around the airport!

[@timt4828]

I think its important to note that not all aircraft are built the same. This one is quite forgiving but some aircraft there will be no warning. No chance at recovery. If you turn base to final and go into stall skid config the airplane will just fall out of the sky and 500 ft will not be enough room to recover. There will be no stall horn or buffeting it will just snap into a spin and game over. Know your aircraft and its handling characteristics.

[@NickKautz]

It might be good to distinguish between a stall -> spin and a stall -> dive. They can both happen shortly after take-off and if a pilot enters a stall->dive and thinks it's a spin, he might spend the few seconds that he has messing with the right rudder when he could have sticked his way out of it.

[@blancolirio]

Recovering from pattern altitude spin is overly optimistic. Great overview!!!

[@SeanWhite]

I never practice spins. Unless I'm 3000' AGL to start. Airspeed is life!

[@officergregorystevens5765]

I"m amazed you can talk so clearly and think about all of this while in a spin. I mean I don't fly except years of X-Plane and MSFS but wow.

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

MSFS can certainly be helpful, but NOTHING takes the place of good old stick and rudder flying, i.e., "flying by the seat of your pants!" Every pilot who depends on autopilot should have to do seat-of-the-pants (stall/spin) reviewing (besides just a BFR) every so often! Some airline pilots (usually not American) couldn't land a plane without autopilot or glidescope if they had to. Accidents have proved that, (Asiana Fl. 214 is a good example).

[@cheekcj]

This guy seems like ex military. Way relaxed and talented.

[@timt4828]

Once you have performed a couple spin recoveries you realize that it is not as crazy scary as it may seem. Airplanes are designed to want to fly. Its us as pilots that perform control imputs that cause the airplane to stop flying in most situations and conversely some simple control imputs such as "p.a.i.r." power to idle, ailerons to neatural etc etc ..... will always make the airplane start to fly again. I say always with my teeth gritted. Lol

[@dabneyoffermein595]

wow, x-plane and MSFS are really good tools. MSFS 2020 is unbelievable for spin training.it's like being in the real thing with VR glasses on. Flight Sim is so much more advanced now.

[@scott-in-dfw3005]

That's confidence in your ability, full knowledge of what is happening and why, and plenty of practice. I'd hire him as my FI in a heartbeat.

[@corbandallas8644]

This is by FAR the most important video for any student pilot(Pilot period). We always hear about the base to final spin but no one ever demonstrates what can happen. Especially once you get that private pilot cert, whats the first thing you wanna do, go fly your friends. Huge thanks for this video!!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Ya... I definitely thought it would be beneficial to put out there. Much appreciated!

[@acasualviewer5861]

What i fear is that unless we practice recovering all the time, we'll get surprised in the emergency and do the wrong thing. That's why I'm considering taking some aerobatic classes. Not so much because I enjoy flipping around, but because I want to be proficient in recovering from those weird situations and don't want to be enveloped by panic.

[@moreapropos]

That's cool how you mounted the cameras! Even from watching this, I don't think people appreciate how disorienting and deer-in-the-headlights a spin can be.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Certainly, nothing can replace actually doing it with an experienced instructor.

[@jeffreyramsden954]

Just did my CFI spin endorsement yesterday, and I swear - this video helped me more than I can describe. I watched it over and over, even rehearsed trying to sound cool and calm while reciting the PARE steps - and it worked! Multiple fully developed spins both sides in a Citabria (including an over-the-top spin) with me doing my super calm Jon imitation - I knew exactly what to do and when. Thanks a million, this was EXCELLENT pre-spin endorsement training!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

So glad to hear it helped, and huge congrats to you!!

[@vinsavi]

Jon you probably will save lives with this fantastic video.

[@TheRutlandPilot]

Dude this helped me so much. I have just done two days of spin training and my god it was scary at first but I nailed It today after reading up and being more prepared as well as watching this video. I wish I could get a few hours tuition with you. You're awesome!! My instructors are great too it is worth mentioning but I really like your teaching style and the way you explain things. Great content and thank you for your wisdom.

[@amirunissasheikh439]

Hii I'm from India and want to join training class in Spain so how can I

[@stationmanager6455]

There are two too types of pilots. Those that have spin training and those that are about to. You have to become spin efficient in the light aircraft game, to survive. Understanding CG position is vital.

[@AndrewTGreen]

You do the community a great service with this video. If only ONE pilot sees this, and it saves their life, then you have lived a good life Sir. Thank You and Best Regards!!!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks Andrew! Share it around!

[@jbl7092]

Wow! Best freaking stall/spin video I've ever seen! Made it so simple, memorable and clear. I want this guy for my instructor.

[@vonpeedler]

Great video. I remember my instructor long ago yelling, "Don't touch that wheel !" The instinct was to grab that yoke like you were in a car. You've emphasized some great points in your video. Thanks for posting!

[@bryce7285]

Just had my first flight today with my instructor. The idea of this is gnarly, but it's so awesome to see this stuff on here and have a basis of understanding before hand. Thanks man.

[@thabangmonnakgotla]

A year later and how did it go?

[@bryce7285]

@thabangmonnakgotla I am a licensed pilot with almost 250 hours! About to purchase a cherokee 6 and getting ready for my IFR checkride at the end of March! Haven't spun the airplane yet but planning to do a class this summer when I do my tail wheel. Best decision of my life.

[@thabangmonnakgotla]

That's wonderful. So spinning is not a pre-requisite for your pilot training there? All the best with the IFR check ride. The Cherokee 6 has amazing payload haul

[@bryce7285]

@@thabangmonnakgotla nope, stalls but no spins. Cherokee six payload is unmatched, my neighbor has 2 of them so have a fair bit of time in it. Will be a good match for us.

[@petermenaglio2621]

So clear, conveyed with repetition of the relevant points to remember. Thank you.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Happy to hear that it helped ya!

[@Charles-fn9qy]

Ok, so I watched all the spin recovery videos I could find out there, but none comes close to this. What sets yours apart, is how you explain and show how to prevent a fully developed spin and catch things going sideways early. Thx so much, great job.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thank you! Stay safe and have fun!

[@Damoncrieff]

Glider pilots are required to practise spin recovery and it's saved my life at least once. Your emphasis on rudder for recovery is simply spot on, lift the dropping wing with rudder, basic. So very glad you covered the issue where a pilot spins off a turn into final by trying to drag the aircraft in with back stick and aileron, such a natural inclination and so wrong. Great video.

[@thepianoman1010]

Before I watch this video, this is what I was taught in 1975 on spin recovery. It was part of the UK syllabus (Ex 11) back then to have an instructor put the aircraft the student pilot is flying, into a spin and have him recover from it. We did 4 or 5 spins from 6,000ft in a Beagle Pup (PA 28s not certified for full-on spins!) and these were all serious, not far off vertical descents while spinning. I was taught to use full opposite rudder, then to push *centrally* forward on the stick, then to centralise the rudder pedals. The spin then stops and a slow pull out performed. It works. The UK, so I understand has removed this exercise from the PPL syllabus because it is too hazardous! I believe, if this really is the case, that this is plain daft.

[@jeffleverence4554]

Best spin video I have seen. This guy is a very good teacher. Take notes CFI's.

[@ElliottsCreations]

I love how casual he looked during that first spin.

[@sabermaster80]

This video literally might save somebody's life/lives someday. Amazing stuff, thank you.

[@coreymalhiot2796]

This is the best spin training I’ve seen yet. The reason why I liked it so much is because you explained how you get yourself into a spin. So far everyone has explained what aerodynamically happens in a spin, but they had not explained that it’s an uncoordinated turn at stall speeds that will set you up for a spin! Thank you so much for the clear instruction! I’ll be back for more 🙏🏻

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Of course, glad that it helped! Plenty of other instruction videos through the channel and on the site at fly8ma.com

[@garywheeler2055]

That is the most informative video I have seen on spins, excellent video

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thank You! Keep the greasy side down!

[@The305Garage]

Fantastic video! Every pilot in training should watch this over and over again.

[@franzjohnston]

Great advice and video.....14 lessons in and loving it ...at 67 never too late, and this is just so important to know....moto .. 1.don't be a big head...go around and live!! ...2 rudder is your friend ..best wishes from Nottingham England and thanks again!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Very happy to hear it's helping! Cheers!!

[@cmcer1995]

Great video!! Rudder control is obviously not stressed enough in training or practiced.

[@denisemangold2265]

I did spin training today. First one was terrifying next few were kinda fun. I think it was one of the best lessons ever.

[@CliffClover]

I just lost two dear friends to a take-off stall/spin. This training is necessary.

[@mystictoad727]

Sorry for your loss.

[@hkb1467]

This guy is the best - he talks quickly so you have to pay close attention which is of course good practice for flying :).

[@thabanimnyama]

This is the most complete video I have come across on spins. Thank you sir.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lukeklassen9239]

I just completed my student solo yesterday afternoon! This video I had watched earlier in the day yesterday to get a better understanding of how spins develop (the idea they can happen scared me until I realized how they happen and how to avoid them), and it came to mind during my 3 takeoffs and landings and definitely helped my comfort level!! Thanks again!

[@peterxyz3541]

Thanks, you saved my life in some future.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@DrRChandra]

"Stack the deck in your favor." Great advice. It's much like an ounce of prevention is worth/better than a pound of cure. Although one could argue, since lives are at stake, it's much more than a 1 to 16 ratio :-)

[@aviationmotivation4957]

Best spin recovery video and explanation, thank you!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Glad I could help!!

[@thedoubledbrewery7995]

Great vid and John is a very competent and skilled pilot. I must say though, it would be fabulous to see more pilots make radio calls that are concise and easily understood. It's all part of good airmanship.

[@donaldsmith3048]

One of my instructors I had me do rodder stalls. Stall the plane and keep it level just using just the rudder! Then recover from the stall! It was fun!

[@Spanabama]

This video alone made me feel better about spin recovery......Thank You!!

[@kevindennis9227]

Such a great video. I wish spin training was offered at all flight school.

[@ferrisbeuller8980]

Thanks! That was the best piloting vizd I've seen in a long time. Keep teaching!

[@chuckm1320]

Thanks, this video will save a life someday.

[@-DC-]

Number one spin upload on the internet power off and rudder you have to overcome your instincts !! Wonderful content 👍

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

I'm glad that it helped!! Cheers!

[@xNecromancerxxx]

I want this guy to fly me from now on and forever! He seems to be an incredible pilot! Kudos!

[@attypatty1]

damn, that was clear and concise, key points and errors that tend to happen covered, truly remarkable video.

[@alexanderzacharuk8475]

Its interesting to read the comments. In Canada its part of training for your PPL and CPL. Most PPL students are comfortable doing spins in Canada.

[@user-sl4rk5zm1j]

This video is amazing. It's the concept of plane and person are one you think systematically. It's nice to know there still are people this analytical. This saves people and builds confidence, rather than beating things into people. Your teaching how to truly fly. Rudder and pulling up takes airspeed away, breaking airodynamics. Being able to being to keep track of this makes you able to sense and recognize transition of movements.

[@karenfisher5723]

Hey Jon, I've been following you for some time and now I'm an enthusiastic student! This video is by far is one of the most thorough explanations of a spin as well as the lead up scenario and perfect demonstration on how to recover. I appreciate the simple explanations you offer on all your videos to the most relevant topics! You rock!!

[@isaaccool3183]

I remember once inadvertently entering a spin. Luckily I noticed it early and I was practicing power off climbing stalls so I knew that was a possibility. Long story short my power off stalls need work.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

idle stalls?

[@isaaccool3183]

@@dabneyoffermein595 idle, arrival, power off. What ever you wish to call it

[@gregmodder5439]

Excellent Video. The prevention is as important as the recovery.

[@kpatrol]

Very well done video!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks!!

[@robertmcdaniel8147]

Excellent presentation, Jon! I think you saved several lives with this 11 minute video.

[@amirmardanbeiki703]

student pilot here. thank you for this! very helpful.

[@roddersauify]

Very clear summation at the end ..."use power and rudder"... nice

[@jeconomides]

Extremely useful video - especially the talkthrough of how people get themselves into trouble in real life.

[@korange69]

" I just care about living"... fantastic.

[@jamesbayliss3313]

Fantastic explanation of spin recovery. As a PPL student, I like that you paint a picture of a very likely scenario, how a panicked low hour pilot will feel and react and show how stable aircraft generally are even when the wings are driven into a stall due to pilot error or panic. Keep up the great work! ✌️

[@mikeherren5604]

Best spin education ever. Now we just practice

[@takflyt1571]

Awesome!! Very informative. I appreciate the information that you're providing.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks! Safe Flying!

[@patrickcoleman3]

As usual with most instructors you already know your going to enter a left spin, so how about saying to your students identify the spin direction using the turn and balance indicator save your life in a spin in cloud.

[@aaronmatthews2889]

Very thorough. Thank you. Keep it up.

[@tombowers2020]

Great comment about letting the airplane fly itself out. Inherently, successful A/C designs have this in common: they can fly themselves...sometimes better than the pilot.

[@LaHayeSaint]

To correct spins, power to idle and rudder on the high wing.

[@airman64]

Thanks for the training because is could definitely safe my life, I hope I remember

[@warshipsdd-2142]

Excellent job, and fun seeing a Champ. Learned to fly in one many years ago from a pair of barnstormers.

[@tomquigley6259]

Having had formal spin training from an acrobatics instructor, I have to say that this video, particularly, the segment on stopping an incipient spin (step on the higher wing and drop the nose some) is absolute gold. This technique could, and I imagine will, keep people who spin on base-->final from hitting the ground, where a more traditional spin recovery requires more altitude than you might have. One thing I've never understood aerodynamically is why we cut the power on spin recoveries. Seems to me you would get a stronger application of opposite rudder with full power and reach an un-stalled condition quicker, assuming you have the proper control inputs...?

[@Mango.Bandicoot]

I'm not looking forward to this part of my training, but this video will definitely help a lot. Thanks!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Happy to help ya... You've got it!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

How did you end up liking it. I know people that go out flying just to do them.

[@asdf12345929]

Great video! Really like how all the scenarios were really covered in depth with really good explanations. Really understand it now intuitively

[@redletters2104]

Great video! Easy to understand and comforting to know how easy it is to recover from a spin.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

I have my first spin training today and I am watching this so I can do it properly. I am going for my private pilot. I know that spin training is necessary.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Spin training can literally be a lifesaver! best of wishes with your training!

[@itssmudge3455]

You are an amazing pilot. I'm amaze at how you are still able to narrate in such situations.

[@joemorrisaviation9691]

Fantastic video! Definitely the best spin video I have ever watched!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Glad it helps! Fly Safe!

[@Theytfguhyre]

You have balls of steel!!! I still get nervous with simple stalls....

[@boomerbill8115]

Your explanations are so clear and Vivid that you don't even have to be a pilot to understand ...

[@stationmanager9325]

When you entery a spin. YOU HAVE TO FIND THE HORIZON>WITHOUT IT YOUR DOOMED.. ON recovery is speed control and also finding the howizon again. You have to get the horizon rotine well practiced. There is no time search for it when iits to late...

[@andymcwilliams2141]

Better look at this several times and practice it a lot. Usually only 500 feet below you on departure and landing stalls.

[@TristanTheChessPlayer]

HOW ARE YOU SO CALM! Love planes and your channel!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thank you!! Share it around with others!

[@WendelltheSongwriter]

One of your very best vids, Jon. Very thorough, especially the points about being aware BEFORE you get into trouble.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks! Safe flying out there!

[@LeantoPeak]

At 5:00 that is absolute awesomeness right there.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

It's appreciated!

[@ZachFrank]

Jon you are the man.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

I appreciate it!

[@1958SSG]

This is the best video about spin I saw. Thank you.

[@salah-deansharata9059]

Top class instructor

[@tyking7128]

I love these videos man! I'm really learning a lot, thanks for doing them!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks! Glad they help!

[@sxmirzaei]

A very thorough explanation, Thanks! I feel much more confident in prepping for my solo!

[@TreDeuce-qw3kv]

Many Years ago now, my step-grandfather an ex Bush pilot told me to get 'Spin Training' before soloing. The FBO where I was getting my instruction wouldn't let their instructors give spin training so I looked around and found an instructor who would but... I soloed so fast that that part of the training was missed. When I was out one day practicing 'Minimum Controllable Air Speed' I inadvertently got into a spin @ Full power and did all the things wrong noted here in this Vid. I luckily recovered the spin right above the tree tops(I had lost about 2,000-ft by then) and since I was now going to slow and nose up to avoid the trees the stall warning came on again and this time I did the right thing and put on full power and nosed down to build speed using the little bit of altitude I still had. I was to have my first night training/instruction that night and when my instructor saw me I was still quite upset about nearly dying and he asked what was wrong. I told him and he said sorry and no problem and he gave me my first instruction in spin recovery at night. What an experience still vividly remembered. Later I often practiced spin recovery in my 47' Champ and later Cessna 150. Never should have sold the Champ. Your thorough demonstration of Spin Recovery and prevention will save lives. Thanks.

[@daapdary]

At 1:32, The spin recovery procedure is "PARE" (power, ailerons, rudder, elevator).

[@Mr.Stud.Puffin]

Well done, thanks for the video!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Of course!

[@Mr.Stud.Puffin]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I really appreciate the way you did this video. Kept it right to the point with basic language and with the emphasis on pounding it in the viewers head - throttle off - opposite rudder. I've been watching a lot of flight training videos and I just like the way you did this one compared to other authors, it's my style of learning. Will be watching more of yours. Thanks again!

[@Cooper_013]

i absolutely love the way you explain everything, when i was doing flight training (through my college) my instructor was not so in detail. most of the time his arms were crossed, didn't talk much and just didn't seem to care. I realized he wasn't into training me properly when i went on a mini checkride with the chief instructor, he asked me so much and asked for details and the why's. that was the last time i flew..... 10 hours shy of my 40, 2 days before my cross country. I didn't want to fly with my normal instructor again. i felt i wasn't getting what i was supposed to from him, and it just didn't feel safe anymore either. sadly none of the other instructors had time on their schedules, so i stopped flying. i wish i never did, i miss the sky, flight sims just aren't as fun anymore either. now i just simply don't have the money to start up again. if i do, i want someone like you. hell i'd love to have you as an instructor!

[@RoryOnAir]

This is an excellent video. I'm really looking forward to doing some spin training with an experienced CFI in the coming weeks.

[@Dr.DeHicks]

Just ran across this video. By far the best spin video I’ve seen. Keep up the good work.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Appreciate it, feel free to share it around with your flying friends!

[@HalfbakedStandard]

This is better than my ppl lesson. Lucky to find this. Thanks for the lesson.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Sure thing Greg! Check out the site: www.fly8ma.com and other videos!

[@padmad3k63]

lol I love it how he keeps his cool and sits there like nothing is going on while I feel very uncomfortable watching the plane spinning

[@Ka_Gg]

I'll have to remember this when playing Grand Theft Auto! lol. Seriously though, it seems like the airplane is relatively forgiving if you just do a few simple things. Granted freezing, panicking, etc may make that harder. Also, air speed seems to be very important.

[@LanceHochFlyInAdventures]

Well that video deserves a like and a subscription. Very comprehensive. I’m looking forward to practicing recoveries, not because I would enjoy the experience but because I think it is important to educate myself. Thank you.

[@a320crew6]

I forgot it was a Video. Where one can pause rewind etc. It's good instruction.

[@philipzanoni]

Jon.is soo cool with the arm up like that..in a atall spin.. I want to get as proficient as Him

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Come up to Alaska and fly with us at our school!

[@wwindsunrain]

Great stuff, Jon. You're a terrific teacher. Thank you!

[@garyggarner7738]

WONDERFUL VIDEO! EXCELLENT DETAILED EXPLANATIONS DURING THE SPINS, STALLS AND RECOVERIES!!! THANKS JON FOR AWESOME INSTRUCTION!!!

[@latech15]

Wow. This was a great watch for a student pilot. Thanks for making this.