Surviving the Warsaw Ghetto and Five Concentration Camps | Miriam Lichterman | USC Shoah Foundation

Holocaust survivor, Miriam Lichterman, lived in Poland until World War II broke out in September 1939. Miriam's family was expelled from their home and forced to live inside the Warsaw Ghetto. Miriam was subsequently deported from there, and endured multiple concentration camps throughout World War II. She was liberated in May 1945. In Miriam's USC Shoah Foundation testimony, she discusses her childhood in Poland, her experiences during the Holocaust, and her life post-war.
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[@utopiandreamer04]

She passed in 2022, at almost a hundred. May her memory be for a blessing

[@sabreecarpenter4285]

I'm so glad that she had a long life. Hopefully with an abundant amount of joy. Raising her sons, and grandchildren.

[@Coco_Ono]

I’m glad she didn’t have to witness 2023.

[@Ruckduck72]

May she rest in peace reunited with her family

[@kelseyknutson5678]

My goal is to listen to every interview (no matter how long, how “slow”) that the foundation posts. I will never complain about how these people tell their tragedies. Yes, some have been “difficult” to listen to because of length. Some are hard to understand* because of accents (not making fun of accents) but I so appreciate these people giving interviews in English when it’s not always their first language. God bless these people and interviewers.

[@frenchartantiquesparis424]

I've been listening for about 2.5 years now..... Have listened and loved at least a 100 interviews.

[@goodkarna]

I'm with you. BTW, The little settings icon in the upper right hand corner of the video gives you the option of speeding it up. 😊

[@thecatcameback3921]

As I work, I used to "listen" to music or news etc. I now, prefer listening to the stories of these brilliant courageous people. Anyone who suffers from depression, I'd advise listening. No matter what's happening in my life, it doesn't come close to the tragedies of these very resilient beautiful people.

[@daniellekrammel4211]

Thank you. The ignorant comments make me sick.

[@thecatcameback3921]

@@daniellekrammel4211 - Sadly there will always be crude ignorant rude people everywhere. Good thing though is we vastly outnumber them. :)

[@audreylandon2934]

What struck me most about Miriam interview was her memories related to her childhood before the war. It made me realize how very much her generation gave up. To go from such a happy, fulfilling life to the existence, first in the ghetto and then in the camps, must have been devastating. What courage, what resolve at such a young age. I cannot even imagine the horror, fear and suffering. And to hear this interview from this beautiful and sincere woman was a privilege. We are truly blessed to have access to these interviews both as a reminder of the cruelty of humanity but ultimately of the resilience of humanity.

[@honaybear5286]

Well said, kind words!

[@sabreecarpenter4285]

I also agree, couldn't have said this any better.

[@nancycunningham4225]

Good talk, good talk.

[@christychristina292]

She has a natural grace and dignity that makes me like her very much. I'm astonished that people are actually taking time to complain about her in the comments. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. She chose ot tell her story so that people will never forget. And people do not even have the respect to listen as if she was supposed to speed it up.

[@kelseyknutson5678]

So disgusting. They can see how long the interview is before clicking. If you don’t like the length of the interview then don’t listen. I, for one, will never not listen because of length. If I have to break it up between 4-7 days then that’s what I will do!

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

It’s like listening to a book that one can’t put down. People who think this “needs to speed up” need to not comment. Actually they need to sit down and take the time to listen, but the caliber of people those comments come from tells me everything I need to know about them. I wouldn’t have time for them, and that’s because they’ve nothing of value to take the time for. I may sound harsh in saying that but turn about is fair play, as the saying goes. This lady’s story is worth every moment. Living history from WWII is hard to come by these days. How rich to have these people to tell their stories.

[@averayugen7802]

Every story she had was about unexpected love, bonding and co-humanity

[@blackie75]

@@kelseyknutson5678 I think it's a stretch to call it "disgusting". It wasn't the length of the story that was the problem, it was that she wasn't a particularly good story teller and seemed to rather enjoy bragging about how posh her upbringing was, in infinite detail, which became very tedious at times. She also enjoyed controlling the narrative and even after the interviewer prompted her multiple times to move on to more important points, she refused and continued off on irrelevant details. I agree that we're very privileged to be able to hear the testimony of these survivors and in that regard, I have absolutely zero complaints, but that doesn't mean that we can't make observations about the interviews or that these people are somehow levitating above the rest of humanity and are completely immune from critique. It also doesn't mean that every single person who ever survived a concentration camp is a charming, charismatic angel, that's just a fact of life.

[@lindachambers6053]

The details she relays helps paint an emerging picture of what life was really like before the war. As a non Jew, I appreciate her telling of the holidays. I had no idea what the holidays celebrated. I love hearing about the holiday meals and the way the baking was done... And what the prayers were said for. (Pardon my ineloquent English.) Her speech is engaging to my ear. To me, because of the details, I could listen to her on and on...

[@elainemathews3008]

She is a graceful lady. However she chose to deliver and share her story is her right. Reliving trauma has no rules on the sharing. I loved each moment of this story.

[@patriciamitchell247]

I've now viewed a number of survivor stories and really have no words. I don't think words are adequate. What do you say about a lovely, strong, dedicated woman who was able to survive what she survived. God Bless her soul and the souls of every survivor and victim of the holocaust from all over the world. Thank you to you, Mrs. Lichterman, wherever you are for giving me/us your story.

[@carolinemcintyre5931]

You are right. This lady is survivor who deserves to tell her story her way.

[@djholliday5132]

Watch the ending-Mrs. Lichterman's return to Warsaw & interview. What a phenomenal woman & survivor. She is so intelligent, brave & classy. Her memories are so vivid, even after 50 years. Never forget.

[@truthlove1114]

As a non Jew watching this I am grateful for their shared stories. My heart goes out to these people and their families. My grandmother was a nanny for a Jewish family in Czechoslovakia at the beginning of the war. She said the people she worked for treated her very well. She was explicit in telling me that. When Hitler came into the Rhineland the family left-she didn’t know what happened to them, they left of their own accord. She said they were just gone one day but Hitler did not take them. I would love to know what happened to them but I never thought to ask their name as I was just a child then. My grandmother at age 16 came to America alone. As a child I was grateful that they were kind to her as she must have been very poor to have to work at such a young age (probably started at 14ish since she came to America at 16. My heart has always gone out to the Jewish people. I was raised Catholic but was always taught to respect everyone. We are truely all one people. God bless everyone that reads this. It’s important to hear these stories. It should be taught more in American schools.

[@jeannerountree952]

I am 58 when I am writing this in 2023 and I also grew up Catholic and learned to respect everyone. I never knew any Jewish people until I was in my 40s and working in a big hospital in Milwaukee. She was a nurse that originally was a doctor in her homeland of one of the USSR parts. I am not working anymore, and I miss her terribly. She may also be retired by now. I’ve watched so many videos at this time and now realize how so many people were glamorized into Hitler’s ideas. But my heart hurts for all those that lived and we’re traumatized, and for all those that were needlessly killed. May God bless.

[@zxy78267]

I am also watching in 2023. I am close to your age. I didn't learn much about the Holocaust in grade school at all, but learned a little in high school. When I had children, I taught them about the Holocaust and about slavery. I hate to see the banning of books and refusal to teach these things in some states in our current political climate. Everyone needs to learn what happened, and how many people died. The things the survivors had to overcome is astounding.

[@valerieirvin249]

I certainly agree, 🙏❤️

[@jonstein6868]

I’m on my way to Poland for the first time in my life. I hope to visit Crakow, Auschwitz and Warsaw. This magnificent and heartbreaking interview has been a key part of my preparation for an encounter with a part of my Jewish identity that up until recently has not been something I wanted to explore. Thank you to all those working to preserve the memory of the survivors whose testimony is such an important part of our human heritage and a warning to future generations of the dangers of totalitarianism.

[@icefreeza21]

as somebody who had a family member who suffered in the spain holocaust the fact that people in the comments are making fun of her makes my stomach sick

[@jerzywieckowski7610]

Spain Holocaust?

[@Lovelyhouseonahill]

I’m reading so many books and watching so many testimonials of survivors, it’s hard to believe that this happened only a short time ago. For survivors of such atrocities to still be alive today is mind blowing. I will educate my children when they’re old enough.

[@roshniiqbal8591]

See Gaza you will believe it

[@Mick-Jam71]

Such a sophisticated and intelligent lady. She’s a human history book! So many testimonies are I,I,I, This beautiful lady has encompassed the suffering of everyone around her along with her personal detailed testimony. I could visualize every minute she spoke. Such strong characteristics. From a well mannered wealthy family and forced to live in such crude, brutial and fearful conditions. One of the best testimonies given. What an honorable Lady she is for her family!

[@fernandaurreacordoba700]

Brave, beautiful lady!!!!!! Thank you. You are so classy....Pure gold. God bless you and your people.

[@kathleenboyd3985]

I don't know what to say. But their stories grip my heart and I feel so many emotions about the Holocaust. It's savage. I'm so sorry it happened

[@GriefTourist]

Even though this tragic story is 5 hours long it is compelling from beginning to end.

[@robynholliday4794]

Miriam’s stories are heartbreaking but delivered with great clarity. One of my favourites.

[@lanelehman2256]

💯💗

[@duffraene4491]

Miriam what a beautiful lady after all she has been through she has a beautiful heart and it shows in her countenance. I’m blessed to have listened to her story.

[@goodkarna]

I must be up to 100+of these by now. It strikes me how happy all the survivors' childhoods were. I always wonder if, after such trauma, any family life would seem idyllic.

[@thecatcameback3921]

If I "think" I'm having a "bad day", I reflect on the horrors these people went through & no way is my day even 1/1000 "bad" compared to what these brave souls went through.

[@thecatcameback3921]

Classy, very smart, courageous, beautiful, kind, calm, patient & many other positive traits define the pretty lady above.

[@fowleheidi482]

Never Forget. She is beautiful, amazing Historian. If there is an afterlife I hope she is the one who is greeting me and taking me to my grandparents.

[@sabreecarpenter4285]

I've been a caregiver all my life and have met so many beautiful people. We would actually talk about meeting up again in Heaven, gathering together for a fun luncheon !! 😊

[@fuensantacampillogomez3288]

Lives of anguish and long-suffering memories that should never have happened. His children collect the legacy of wisdom and struggle for a better world. Thank you very much for your testimony.

[@maryblushes7189]

Such a wonderful memory she has.

[@amygoo334]

Bless you. I feel almost as if I’m there, living in prewar Warsaw. Such a poetic and precise memory! These vivid details of rich Jewish cultural life are testimony to what the Nazis destroyed. Tragic.

[@nataliatukalska6851]

I thought the same... Althouht I'm Polish but the sense and climate of streets and people before the war described by her is magical

[@pji4994]

Very detailed and thoughtful testimony. Sad that these quality people had to suffer at the hands of that maniacal despot in Germany.

[@DanaSellsLA]

Not just Hitler, the entire complicit participants of Europe.

[@bjamo8738]

I really appreciated this one. She explains details to give you a complete picture; and her final message is heart touching and beautiful.

[@marymoriarity2555]

I just cannot imagine the horrors. These people suffered at the hands of the Nazis. To see the same type of antisemitism. Happening in modern times is scary.

[@pegasus5287]

It gave me quite a start when I saw how so very quickly people were polarized over vaccine or no vaccine status, people even calling for non vax to be thrown in jail, starved I to submission, some even saying they were hoping those who were refusing would die. It immediately hit me, this is how it works, create unreasonable fear and it will turn to hatred. I used to wonder how could so many ordinary people suddenly turn on friends, neighbors like that. But we saw it with our own eyes, how easy it is to polarize the population almost overnight

[@harrynking777]

@@pegasus5287 Yes, you are right. People are so quick to swallow government-instigated propagdna. Luckily, there are some who can see through it and recognize such nonsense immediately.

[@ResilientWon]

It is hard that any soul having human could treat another like that. Any Jew not screaming off rooftops about the way you're own people committing the same atrocities at the name of God is an even more egregious violation.

[@RD-0101]

​@@ResilientWon When in history,the jewish people have commited atrocities in the name of god?? 🤔

[@user-gz7sz3dz2l]

@@ResilientWonthanks for the lecture

[@sheilaregister4128]

Such a beautiful lady! It is heartbreaking to hear, but we must NEVER forget and do our best to prevent this from ever happening again! Blessings to you and your family. So sorry for all you went through, and for all the other atrocities of this horrible Holocaust!

[@honaybear5286]

I really hate to be the bearer of bad news oh, but it is going to happen again in the future! And it's going to be worse than it was during the Holocaust! And if you want to know how I know it's going to happen again the Bible tells us that it will happen again, right before Jesus returns to rule for a thousand years on the earth it is going to happen again.

[@TheAnthoula14]

When she talks about the pride the young women of Warsaw took in their appearance even in the worst of times, I flashed to that famous photo of the evacuation of the ghetto -that pretty young girl towards the front, near the little boy with his hands up.

[@maryagreen]

I know exactly which one you’re talking about. 😢

[@antekp2965]

when she talks about pre-war Warsaw, she reminds me very much of Hanka Bielicka, an iconic figure for my city

[@TheAnthoula14]

It's such a powerful image right? One of those photographs that even if you only see it once, you never forget it.

[@saristeier6658]

The same thing occured to me looking at that photo. The woman in the photo is beautiful well dressed in a suit being rounded up like cattle to death.

[@litealite]

Can only imagine how beautiful this woman has been all her life .

[@Ruckduck72]

Every day we are losing survivors their testimony is vital for us to understand and take on board

[@niceperson7957]

I appreciate the patience and endurance of this woman and I raise my hats to her

[@audreykoble5217]

This lady appears to be a very strong, detailed person and spoke with purpose and insistence. As the interview continued I saw a very emotional person ready to burst with tears and sorrow. By the end of the walking interview back in Warsaw she was clearly upset and sad overcome with emotion. This Interview made me cry with saddness. God bless her family. Her sons are appreciative sons.

[@lorihuarota6654]

Thank You for sharing these interviews🥺😞

[@Countess88]

I watched every minute of this, and thoroughly enjoyed all the minute details, within her survival story.

[@rositahuff4858]

…may there be justice after this life….those who inflicted pain and suffering need to be punished! ….

[@2true359]

Oh there will be Justice. Accept Jesus Christ and his Mercy now before it it too late.

[@thecatcameback3921]

God will mete out the justice on his/her timetable.

[@diannehalliday2165]

Miriam, how brave you are. Thank you for sharing your life and family with us. You make scripture and the promises of the Lord ring in my ears. His words stands, it is everlasting

[@helenblake9811]

I have been listening to this marvelous testimony by this by this beautiful lady, and I am so grateful for the time she spent telling her story. I have listened to many of their stories and I am amazed at how they endured such horrors, much less survived. As a human being, I pray I will do my part, to make sure this never happens again. We must learn from these people. 🙏

[@lanelehman2256]

Please bring many more treasures for us as such. There are no words . ❤

[@robinblick9375]

The snide comments disgust me. This is her once chance to tell her story, and she does it with dignity and with an amazing memory for detail.

[@2t3hr7]

This woman vibrates so much direct experience

[@2t3hr7]

We need more women of this character and wisdom

[@florencecurrie7861]

What a blessing is she! All should hear her and others out of respect for each survivor's story and their resiliance.

[@Countess88]

This woman thinks very highly of herself. BUT - she has a right too! After all she survived & endured, she deserves her well-earned self-worth.

[@bettycrabtree3107]

What a lovely lady.

[@suzie2z]

I’m so grateful to be able to hear the testimonials. This lovely lady is someone I could love deeply as a dear friend. I’m sorry all this happened in our past. I wish it had never happen. I don’t understand such hate or treatment of others.

[@joanpower6926]

To listen to all these stories with reliving this horror 😢😢 I am amazed by the survivors 💖✨💖

[@StephenGrew]

Wonderful English, so articulate.

[@jeminakifer6305]

my heart goes out to all survivor as well as victims they were heroes.God bless them

[@-E42-]

Thank you so much for recording, conserving and publicizing these testimonies. Incredibly important and valuable so nobody ever says "this is so unimaginable so how could it be true".

[@daniellekrammel4211]

So many ignorant comments on here. She managed to keep it to five hours but she probably could have gone on for twice as long. This is HER chance to share for future generations every detail. Of course it takes hours! And the comments about the slowness and feeling "uncomfortable " make me so mad. Probably written by monolingual people who have no idea how hard it is to master a second or third language.

[@wt1284]

I m so glad you made it through. Everyday must have felt like month. Every month a year. You have fortitude.You are a very good speaker. It is very good these audio/ video documents Your life.

[@clayevins6795]

I would love to spend time in person and hear these stories. They make me feel like I can accomplish anything. This has to be the 100th testimony I’ve heard. Amazing .

[@bron1292]

What an amazing woman. She has experienced such horror and yet Miriam is so gracious and poised. Her intelligence and integrity shine. Her boys must be so proud of their Mother. 🌹

[@sherigraham3873]

I'm so impressed that this lady went back in time even though it was so painful for her! It's so important to never forget the attrocities of the Germans as well as the attrocities of the communists. Both evil in every way!

[@jeffglanstein4489]

A very important statement of proper Jewish perspective of life and how a Jewish person is supposed to live.

[@cmshaw52]

Thank you for posting this!

[@maxinerowe2925]

You are so strong

[@tiffcat1100]

It happens to be her birthday on the very day I watched this! ❤🎉❤

[@christinemarquez2475]

Just when you think you're having a day...

[@ameliagarcia2730]

I think anyone who went through the horrific and unbearable times in the holocaust AND LIVED, should be given respect!! And dignity and patience! What a brave woman. Most take their memories to the grace because to talk about it is just too difficult.....

[@saskiawells9472]

What a wonderful lady so sad x

[@gandalfrj9364]

Rest In Peace you amazing little lady. What a life!

[@lydond99]

Let us never forget

[@jdemartini9807]

What an amazing woman.

[@TheMorne777]

2:49:59 This was an agitated death stare. She is indulging in her memories so clearly that it totally broke her train of thought which would irritate me too. A lot of respect for this women.

[@lyricalaska]

I so wish the services there when her sons were cantors had been recorded for us to see and hear.

[@teemarie5478]

I wonder if she is still alive? I’d love to know. I’d give anything to meet someone like her, I chose meeting her over any celebrities/ musicians/ actor. To me these kid of people are the people we should look up to not silicone Valley or Hollywood Hills❤️🙏🏼

[@zxy78267]

I usually look up obituaries. I'm amazed that even though these interviews were done quite some time ago, some are still living.

[@joandanielle9799]

Thanks Miriam for sharing your story. May HaShem blesses you and your descendants.

[@thomasmcivor2665]

well articulated story

[@loubylou1899]

I listen to all KZbin videos speeded up, to the point I get annoyed that I can't speed up television programmes. To the people commenting on the length and speed of the testimony, just put it on x2 😉

[@harrynking777]

It is such a shame that Poland sufferered so much, sandwhiched between two awful regimes. It sounds as though it had been a country with a high level of education and high standards generally.

[@audreykoble5217]

Jewish schools are known to teach at a high level. Not so much at public schools

[@user-mh1qt4ln5g]

What a great story teller. Such a great imagination!

[@maxinerowe2925]

So sorry

[@user-uh7bp9wt2c]

Es muy valioso su testimonio pero permitan los subtítulos porque no entiendo inglés.

[@user-qr8qh7ss8f]

💐 ❤

[@nikahindulak1738]

So this is probably not the most important part of these stories to concentrate on, but as a hungarian girl born in Czechoslovakia I just want to make clear for those who are interested in this topic and are reading these comments: well Katja was most probably a czech or a slovakian girl, whereas Katinka was hungarian (Katinka is a nickname for Katalin). And as you can see, there is a clear difference there. I wasn't surprised.

[@justnicole7983]

♥️

[@BeckBeckGo]

I know it’s too late but seashore. Seashore is the word this dear lady is looking for.

[@rescuepetsrule6842]

Probably right. I don't think Coast was it.

[@BeckBeckGo]

@@rescuepetsrule6842 so coast is more of a geographical term. Seashore is a place you love, and you miss. (I’m a girl who grew up on the seashore because I lived on the coast. Now I live elsewhere and I’m landlocked) The words are very similar but have different emotional impact.

[@BeckBeckGo]

@@rescuepetsrule6842 also, I love your username.

[@user-zz6uz1qy2z]

❤❤❤❤

[@stephaniek1076]

Very excellent testimony. Is there a way to increase the volume in the last section (filmed in Poland)? It's very difficult to hear it at times, if at all...and would love to hear what's being both asked and answered. Thx for consideration.

[@mandycooke8445]

Are your captions on?

[@audreykoble5217]

Change the playback speed from the wheel icon

[@tiffcat1100]

It may help a little using AirPods

[@user-cy4vw1qj9m]

What a terrible sad story💔💔💔

[@gardenscroll4gardenseasons]

More like, I "loved" it. Everybody loves a love story, and even in all of this, one of the greatest love stories I have ever heard was born. Somebody needs to make the movie! Ron Howard - IMb?

[@saristeier6658]

Hollywood only wants woke stories and sexual degradation. The holocaust is not on the approved woke agenda. Especially because those who survived triumphed and with children and family and success.

[@lorihenderson673]

With ❤

[@adlozi]

The last interviewer was not a good listener. The survivor is tearing her heart and the interviewer cares only about how wealthy she was before the war. The entire story is heartbreaking. Unfortunately, the majority of people (I presume in all countries) tend to be indifferent to the suffering of others.

[@user-in3ln4sd1z]

Such a beautiful elegant lady ❤❤

[@linanicolia1363]

I was watching earlier at another interview she said there were 7 kids in her family, 4 boys and 3 girls. She was talking about her father a lot, about his religious beliefs and his generosity. Now she says, there were 3 of them. Maybe there is a gap there, I missed. Strange.

[@summersailing8175]

otherwise, praise to this survivor.

[@crystalknight8968]

the volume ia low for some reason. (?)

[@LucindaHcorral-rt3ph]

Judge on Dobson dad

[@cryzmyth]

54:44 "seashore"? or "boardwalk"? or "pier"?

[@audreyann1975]

I was thinking "shore" or "seaside" myself. I'm mesmerized by her testimony. I literally imagine everything she tells us.

[@salutiesse]

I was thinking of a spit- seems to me the fact that she thought longer about it meant it must have been more of a geographically focussed word that the interviewer might not have immediately known themself either (sort of like with the subsidise when the interviewer just repeated her sponsor -_). Could've simply been shore tho hh. The Vistula is a river tho, so neither seaside, boardwalk or pier would be that applicable.

[@Liz333Rab]

@@salutiesse I was thinking 'river bank'.

[@salutiesse]

@@Liz333Rab by the way that Miriam was describing it, it has to be something geographical that can be used in descriptions of landforms near water (wherever there has been deposition). Good suggestion, I LOVE THIS THREAD, but it seems less likely that that's what was meant, the most notable reason being because it has to be a word that relates to being near any larger body of water. I'm sort of erring more on the side of the 'coast' to be honest- definitely seems reasonable.

[@salutiesse]

While I'm prepared to do this ort of thing all day, one thing I WISH these testimonies had were accurate subtitles- these newer ones especially, since they have been uploaded recently. Surely the foundation ahs access to people that speak German/ Yiddish/ Polish etc ;(( I can't catch all of the words. (and having 'non-english' doesn't help ).

[@user-yd6sj3pe4j]

Currently SA is ? For Jewish folks I have no issues with Jewish & love them

[@cleopatra1633]

There is a lot of injustice put on non black people in SA. Apartheid was certainly oppressive but the ANC turned out to be a corrupt, violent and destructive regime. Unfortunately Jewish people are always more vunerable, no matter where they are.

[@editamongirdaite6006]

What were Lithuanians doing in Warsaw? 😮

[@ladespedida123]

collaborated with grmans

[@salutiesse]

Let’s get straight into it w ‘Am I on camera’ )) xx

[@loonylinda]

although iam so sorry for what she endured i cant say that i warmed to her very much.

[@salutiesse]

@@loonylinda I get where you're coming from with this- she definitely did seem to be imperious at times, to such an extent that I did feel a bit uncomfortable, but yh I won't put it past her. Could see throughout how much she's still suffering- and the amount of stuff she remembered- am in awe hhh.

[@rescuepetsrule6842]

@@loonylinda Your name speaks volumes. This is NOT entertainment, so nobody cares if we "warmed to her".

[@mapunbugwe9245]

X😢x

[@tammyross7227]

God-bless that interviewer she has the patience of a Saint

[@janetblanc7658]

I agree. Miriam is a sweet lady but we all had school uniforms, we had to be on time for school, wear indoor shoes etc. We clearly don't need to hear so many details.

[@loonylinda]

i agree she bossed it

[@henryworthington8261]

I disagree, this is lovely detail and paints a picture for me. It is wrong to say negative things about someone who has shared with us such painful things.

[@shortscenes9338]

Agreed.

[@tiffcat1100]

@@janetblanc7658Disagree

[@justsaying5755]

No. Her mother was right. Things eventually did get right. There were Jewish ppl who survived and generations continued.

[@nancydroste6666]

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[@schelliegris7481]

It seems that some Polish people were extremely antisemitic and took advantage upon the German invasion. I'm sure there were some who were neutral but did not really help, and some who did the brave thing. It is interesting to see differences in other countries. I wish I could feel positive that this would never happen again. Perhaps not in this number, but it has happened in various countries. Bigotry is such a slippery slope.

[@laura_7581]

Some were antisemitic, but a lot of were not. There was a lot of anger in people as the society was polarised in general (rich vs. poor). It pertained not only to Jewish people but also to the upper and so called intellectual class wiped out by the Nazis and then finished off by communism. Polish people were sacred and lived under extreme oppression, being sent to the camps as well. Some unfortunately took an advantage of the war and later continued during communism. But that doesn’t mean the whole society was like that. My heart aches for the lives destroyed and lost. Nothing can excuse such atrocities. And to think about what’s happened in Israel in 2023.

[@cleopatra1633]

@@laura_7581 Well said. Many people tend to generalise and don't know that Polish people were also seen as Untermensch by the German regime. Indeed, many polish people were killed and also send into concentration camps. There are good and bad people in every country. The Germans also suffered and had to live in a dictatorship and risked their lives if they didn't comply. Russians were killed in the millions. My dutch grandfather was taken off the streets and did hard forced labour in Germany for 3 years and turned back more dead than alive. A german man tried to reduce his suffering and was very kind. My grandmother suffered hunger and violence and almost died in the Winter of Hunger in The Hague. My aunt was raped as a young girl while looking for food in the farms and on the land. Many stories remain untold.

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Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: For the wrath of God is upon them to the uttermost.. "Let His blood be upon us and upon our children"

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