Susannah VALKYRIE QUICKSAND Guide - Honkai Impact 3

[@MarisaHonkai]

Hoyolab article with images used for this vid: www.hoyolab.com/article/17672613

[@ElSilbear]

I only can pull Aladdin T,M, is there alternatives to B?

[@MarisaHonkai]

anything that gives physical, bleed, total dmg buff.

[@Sp1derBedo]

The real reason to get Susannah is in case you're broke when the new Seele battlesuit is released and it's qua weather monday tuesday wednesday thrusday friday saturday sunday you go to sleep, qua weather, you wake up, qua weather, you open your lunc, qua weather, you wake up in the middle of the night to turn to your bronay body pillow but what has it turned into? qua weather

[@tama_12a757]

I love this comment

[@Sp1derBedo]

@@tama_12a757 thank you so much lmao

[@Mallowgene_fr]

NO ONE CAN ESCAPE QUA WEATHER

[@kimster6978]

Lmao, at the same time I just use AE, Eden, and FR. But the stigma is kinda costy because everyone has their signature gear. I mostly got it with bp at the time, a bit of rolling and otherwise just ended up getting it over time

[@eiarsan]

Except i'm too broke to spend my crystals for Susannah so I'd just copium run quantum weathered RL with FR team or SN team lmao

[@ChiriKain]

i love susannah, the way she stumbles into the field is adorable.

[@ridleyze0220]

woah for the first time the free event stigma is actually useful now

[@disciplinaryblessing]

latest 3pc lightning set with Aponia, Vill V and Mobius is useful too

[@wenbolu6157]

the event stigs for clearing story are g3 equivalent in power

[@fafa267]

DMG numbers for different builds and graphs are VERY appreciated. Thank you!

[@veonoev]

didn't really expect to like her this much but that music when you play her hits hard

[@egorl5531]

It doesn't matter if you want Susannah or Hare... BECAUSE THERE IS AN ELY SKIN COMING SOON

[@uwu-chan]

It’s tomorrow!!

[@egorl5531]

@@uwu-chan YEEES!!!

[@iadyguuji]

skipped her for senti though.. but im happy with my senti anyways 😻😻

[@Rennmi]

Elysia Skin is a skip spending event coming

[@INTJ791]

some elysia simp

[@monikang5144]

omg.. the rhythm exercise... thank god that there is soemthing like that.. i havent noticed.. thank u Marisa, for including it here ♥ keep up the good work!

[@eugeneoxtord]

Got every piece of her eq with 18k, and I'm happy

[@eiarsan]

So, not only niche but Susannah is also expensive to build since HoS needs another stigma set. Damn.

[@SomeoneSayOri]

senti calls fu hua the older timer but she's the old one at this rate

[@عليالتجاني-ل6و]

So Holms had become a really useful stigma since it was considered niche in the past.

[@ratkinzluver33]

Glad I haven't thrown away my fullset Holmes, never thought I'd need it but turns out I do lol!

[@doremi6544]

never thought a day would come when holmes set will be necessary 🕳️👩🏻‍🦯

[@kritin2855]

Ah yes, so glad I salvaged all those Holmes off-rate drops last year ( ; - ;)

[@JustARogueChicken]

Mihoyo finally make a character that challenge the player's skill of looking at screen.

[@monkeydluffy5054]

Susannah is fun to use even when i don’t have her weapon I’m gonna at least try to get it

[@francesco8000]

Tinfoil hat theory but i feel that Mihoyo is pushing for Susannah as the next big character (may be the new MC of the next part). She has been the protagonist of a bunch of events now and she is playable too now. I do feel that this theory may be correct because the next MC will be a new character since all the other playable characters have their arc done (unless we move to the APHO timeline but in that case they would need to actually give a personality to Adam).

[@annabelle2523]

Protagonist role in honkai just goes to whoever is the biggest lesbian. XD

[@chaptereight3406]

@@annabelle2523 dont fuck with the lesbians, they have world ending personality disorders and the only way to stop them is their lesbian relationships

[@francesco8000]

@@annabelle2523 Well her Yuri level is really high and her first valkyrie has a cat theme (like Kiana). She is a potential candidate.

[@INTJ791]

@@annabelle2523 currently its seele, bronya, li sushang, and susannah

[@Myst910]

This is great thank you! Now I just need to wait for a Griseo stig banner to come back😅😭

[@AramuThorn]

Thanks for the guide Marisa

[@Sp1derBedo]

Everyone is doom posting with her for the future meanwhile my OSU addicted ass is having way too much fun

[@fareezcr5611]

Look like I'm gonna stick with PE for physical abyss. It'll gonna be soo much pain. Retain the agony will be a bless 😂

[@silverjuly9339]

Same

[@athanh8888]

Lol, I thought Moriso skipped her vid because she wasn't interested 😂 --- How about Dracula/Raksha T + Shujing MB, are they better than Dirac MB? Didn't see you try them 🤔

[@JasonMerrillGCC]

Thanks! At @3:54 did you also test holmes TB aladdin M?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Aladdin 1% higher

[@KobanWanko]

Great to see such a comprehensive breakdown... but I still have some questions: How gimped is Susannah if she doesn't have her sig weapon? Is she worth building without it? Those extra 5 bleed stacks sound like it's an important part of her kit.

[@MarisaHonkai]

All dps really want their signature weapon. It’s 5 bleed trauma not stack. Probably useful for pischacha

[@KobanWanko]

@@MarisaHonkai thanks for clearing that up. Might just stick to my physical Elysia with her sig weapon then.

[@chillhour6155]

her animations are so smooth

[@mochfarchan8135]

Great content marisa, bleed mechanics have been stumped me ever since susannah came and bleed weather ER is ongoing in this version. I heard that susannah bleed damage benefits with impair debuff and physical breach debuff. Is this case true with susannah?

[@MarisaHonkai]

bleed is still a physical dmg, so yes

[@notciner9846]

i pulled aladdin B stigma and slapped marco polo TM on for now I'm planning on using the rest of my crystals on her equipment once i have elysia skin, but do you think there are any viable options for B stigma and a different TM set?

[@AzuureEmpyrea]

This is a great break down! Though, I’m wondering, is there ever a situation where Carole is preferred over Griseo or Carole is used at all?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Only on shield, which is a rare case, and you would probably be better using hos carole griseo team instead

[@1Starben]

Where do we get the Holmes stig set? Is it still available in the event gacha pool? Or only dorm supply? And will Twirling Gaze/Aladdin enter the offrate pool on other gear banners or will it need to rerun a few more times before it does?

[@natanmoses674]

Ended up getting Susannah’s wep, and MB, but not her T yet. Was planning on just crafting Dracula instead. Does not having the 3-piece really hurt her so that much?

[@miroyuuzu9516]

Hi hi, my Susannah is only 3/4, left Aladdin M.. can I replace with Cezanne M while Griseo uses Beethoven M? I don't have Shuijing and I'm currently trying to forge G3 Dirac M

[@jayemmzz8301]

Is there any alternative to sussanah for pishacha? The bleed bar feels like forever to drain even with solo griseo (I'm not even sure if it is the most effective strat) I don't even care about top scoring or getting 46080 for full rewards, I just want to know if it's possible to beat with either with PE or MPE fully geared.

[@jihility]

I never managed to break the bleed shield completely but I got full rewards easily with Griseo Hos MPE & 3* dudu

[@MarisaHonkai]

Hzri has a vid using MPE

[@truearchery]

MPE is (distant) 2nd best. You can without problems get all rewards with PE or triple support. I got 46500ish with the latter which can definitely be improved. Pretend the bleed shield doesnt exist

[@windiersinger1217]

About the question of Susannah vs Hare, do you think a fully built BKE be able to viably replace Hare for Hare’s bosses (bio, shieldbreak, and summon Aponia because bio)?

[@haveagoodday7021]

Replace? Probably not but BKE should be able to perform well enough for Red Lotus as ling as she's built

[@INTJ791]

extreme copium, even hare with basic weapon and stigmata only slightly worse than fully gear bke, meta since flamescion has been huge leap one after another

[@tiosu7245]

is aladdin T dirac MB good on her? still pulling for her gears and only have aladdin T with purana as her weapon

[@LancerTCG]

Marisa, how about ShuijingTB on HoS? Or would BronyaTB still be better?

[@MarisaHonkai]

HoS doesnt use qte so Shuijing is not an option

[@tine1396]

I have Bianka Equinox almost full build, should i pull Susannah's stigmata/weapon? Hare? Or save for Bronya HOT ?

[@KingOrodreth]

Hi Marisa, thanks for the vid! I've Aladdin T and B, should I complete with Drac M for SP or should I stick with Dirac MB (and aladdin T)?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Aladdin 2 pc is still stronger with big gap. just stick with aladdin TB, unless you have sp issue and alrdy have dirac

[@KingOrodreth]

@Marisa Honkai actually I used Dirac MB but I pulled Aladdin B yesterday so now I wonder if I should forge Dracula M for the SP issued By your answer I understand that Aladdin TB Drac M>Aladdin T Dirac MB Thanks!

[@AdamJorgensen]

Lul, Hoyo are funny guys releasing a valk that needs a different line-up for stigs on one of the support valks XD Sadly, I won't be gearing Susannah properly since I'm more interested in gearing both Hare and Prometheus next patch. Unfortunately tambourines can't compare to doom fists and javelins XD

[@loushia16]

I've got her weapon and Aladdin MB. Should I try to pull for her T piece or is there a good sub I can use?

[@senelclark101]

A special mention and cameo appearance of fragile zzz lmao.

[@Nojiko12]

this might be a dumb question but i noticed during Susannah's ultimate that the beat for it in the video is only one button but when i do it in game two patterns alternate two buttons(skill > ult > skill > ult > skill pattern one, attack > dodge > attack > dodge > attack pattern two), the last pattern alternates four(dodge > attack > ult > skill > dodge)? is there a setting to make it all one button or am i missing something?

[@tama_12a757]

Yes, u can turn off the random button, just go to her skill(ultimate) -> rhythm exercise. now you only press ult button after that

[@LancerTCG]

You can turn off the first subskill in her ultimate skill tab to make ult use only one button.

[@Nojiko12]

@@tama_12a757 i found it, ty for the response

[@Nojiko12]

@@LancerTCG i found it, ty for the response

[@leandronascimento9960]

ty marisa

[@yesnoxz]

Thanks for the video. This is my first physical team, better say bleed team, I guess. A quick question, atm I don't have full Cezanne set, only the M piece. And I have Holmes T and B. Should I put them all on Griseo, or would I still benefit from placing the Holmes pieces on HoS?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Hello~ If your HoS has swords then it's better to have swords on HoS and holmes on griseo

[@Nojiko12]

btw ty for the info.... it is really helpful

[@kokomiyax]

took me 117 to 4/4 her yet i love her still! no aladdin dupes either 😥💕

[@GT-yn6fg]

She feels a bit clunky to use, and the prometheus banner is more "worth" it imo

[@tokinosoda12thapostleofthe12]

In lineup gear, is there a tier beyond Ascended F2P ? I have the valkyries, but they don’t have their respective signature weapons. Any tips or tricks ?

[@ChiriKain]

so whats better to run on senti for this team, domain of sentience or cosmic duality? i have both at lv50 and i was wondering what to keep leveling to 65 and use.

[@MarisaHonkai]

Cosmic sees more use nowadays

[@HI3hhhnOtbc]

Thks, any suggest for my Griseo 0/4 gear and no Homes? My Sus is 4/4 SS, Senti is SS Top Tesla MB Aladdin. How about another 2 pcs Aladdin for Griseo, the buff is stackable, right? How about bronya TB Mei M or Broken set?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Check out the griseo guide for more builds kzbin.info/www/bejne/joPIf32gi6ydf7c

[@GoshTimeBR]

Now I understand why people were using Bronya's Stigmas in MA XD

[@Sinon0017]

is shujing 3pc on HoS better or worse than 3pc sswords?

[@shadzrinhidayat4560]

Good guide, but there is a question that lingers in me still. Is Prometheus a better investment than Susannah overall? Or they are just niche in their respective teams?

[@panjimartiandaru3081]

I'd say Prometheus better, because support always last much, much longer than dps.

[@bombgameing]

@@panjimartiandaru3081 specifically here its a bit different because physical support are much more "niche" than elemntal. theres impair/bleed/shield and the other stats which tend to get replaced and changed much quicker than the other supports. but still, much longer than a dps

[@shadzrinhidayat4560]

@@bombgameing thx for the advice🥰

[@shadzrinhidayat4560]

@@panjimartiandaru3081 thx for the advice🥰

[@IZZ_MEE_AZZFAA]

can i use Cezanne set for Susannah?

[@backers0416]

idk if it is stupid, but for bleed weather, I'd rather put dirac or shujing on susannah and then the aladin mb stigs on hos, like a dps wouldn't function well with a bad support right? and the alternatives seems to be not that bad as well. anyone had tried this?

[@rishabh2621]

At 0:30 you were telling about 605 and all what did that mean rank or points at fourth stage which counts after 3000 + points

[@teenagesilver6512]

Why should I pull hare if I have susannah? Or will hare be a good valk cause I pulled susannah and really wanna full hare cause waifu. Is Hare will be usefull? I didn't mean to powercreep my future hare by susannah...

[@mochfarchan8135]

Marisa, does susannah ult counted as burst mode and her attack considered as burst atk? Seems that nexus signet kevin Shadow of Deliverer does stack when i ult using susannah.

[@MarisaHonkai]

She is not Burst Mode. You can check her tag. That signet counts ULTIMATE attack too

[@LongDeadArtist]

I got Aladdin B and no twirling glaze 😅 is Purana Phantasma viable? Edit: nevermind! Too bad didn't get her best stigma tho

[@honeydewblue]

Would susannah work well with Drac T and Aladdin MB?

[@MarisaHonkai]

It’s still better than shuijing, just lacks sp regen

[@serafinw105r2f]

Understood, will pull for prometheus instead

[@P4fuu]

I dont find my answer in that video so im gonna ask.. I got aladin only M and B piece, its still better using it on Susanah or give it to Senti and Susanah using dirac M B ?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Still better on susannah. Just lacking sp regen if it's not 3pc

[@P4fuu]

Okay.. Thanks...

[@PowerMiner]

1:30 ... i practiced this whole time just to realise i can disable it

[@ulisesavila2879]

So I need at least griseo's weapon. Gotchu

[@NMC_1980]

Should you always 6 star your PRIarms or are there some that aren't needed?

[@MarisaHonkai]

The only reason you wont upgrade to 6star is if you lack the resources.

[@nagusameta366]

Only have full HoS among the three and being informed that it's essentially useless is a big turn off. Susannah so expensive x.x

[@LannFen]

Is there really no alternative for Senti? I made a wrong decision on building Susannah then.

[@notbiescuits]

Same problem 😅 No Senti, life is not yatta

[@Rem-hb4os]

so unlucky that I only managed to get Aladdin T and M :( so what stigmata should I use for B?

[@herisuko4485]

hai morisso, what affixes for susannah and HOS for this team?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Susannah full atk. HoS: if below ss and you feel like youre lacking sp to ult consistently, then sp regen.

[@Village-village]

Should I use Difac(T+H)+Aladdin(C) or Difac(T+H)+Dracula(C)?🤔

[@shyrr]

Is she a must get? Because i'm currently saving for HoHe's equip and had to skip her banner

[@MarisaHonkai]

read the conclusion section

[@midianjoyaryantawira5480]

what if i don't have HoS? are there a subtitude for her until i get her?😢

[@MarisaHonkai]

there is nothing close to hos divine prayer gives impair but nothing else

[@Sakaki98]

It’s a shame the trial team for the event doesn’t enable the smooth rotation you mention, since Susannah feels so clunky and awkward without it. In practice you just wind up spamming combo attacks on each individual character to build sp and hopefully align their ults. It becomes a boring sluggish quick swap team that reminds me of my early days with Swallowtail Phantasm and Flame Sakitama, which is not a great first impression… Outfits are cool tho

[@Bebe-uk6rm]

Is a full set Shuijing a viable option for HoS support ?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Hos does not use qte so she cant activate shuijing

[@unlucky58]

If she doesn't have her weapon just don't use her at all

[@nwaynway4856]

Can i replace Senti with Prometheus?

[@TheSanty07]

Would Prometheus be a good support for Sussanah in the next version?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Susannah still wants Griseo for max bleed stack buffs. Prom can still work but less optimal than Griseo on her usual bosses

[@saimyintmyat9373]

First, Off topic question ; Can Senti uses Prometheus 's stigmas and how are they gonna effect her performance ?

[@MarisaHonkai]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4WchZqGg9qljM0

[@saimyintmyat9373]

​@@HotPepperLala yes.

[@pokebuzz123]

​@Hot Pepper Lala Isn't that what he linked? It showed the %dif graph of each set.

[@ryuki9788]

pay attention to the set below holmes T M newton B.

[@udyats7305]

@@MarisaHonkai Is Sussanah worth gearing if you dont have griseo gear?

[@ashevreturn6618]

Hello I'm new player, if i already get full set MPE, should i pull susana (i already get full set HOS by the way)

[@MarisaHonkai]

See conclusion section. Not mandatory, decide if you wanna save or not for next patch

[@pikamatt6683]

HoFi is a priority over susannah though right? Because I have PE and Elysia as physical dps so imo I'd rather save for HoFi and her gears instead.

[@kritin2855]

Does Bleed dmg benefit from impair effects?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Yes, bleed is physical

[@dolgreciashonkai]

Yes

[@dolgreciashonkai]

If it doesn't benefit, Senti is trash lol

[@kritin2855]

@@dolgreciashonkai I mean I’m not the one who made a new physical character who can’t utilize a core physical support’s main equipment. I’m happy they give more use to older stigs though, if only they would do that more often.

[@kritin2855]

@@MarisaHonkai thanks for the quick answer.

[@stemax44]

there is also prometheus that's coming, so the question is do prometheus gear are more important than Susannah gear ?

[@BoothillsWifey]

For prometheus we are getting the first ten pull on her equip sup is free and we getting 10 equip sup cards from a log in event so prometheus gear is alot cheaper than sus, you don't have to save as much for prometheus sup so sushannah gear might be better to pull atm

[@stemax44]

@@BoothillsWifey thx !

[@Nhyufll]

I got vill-vi and PE ill pray hare does not overthrow pe for every physical weather and save for hofi and seelie for the inevitable qua spam that will happen

[@cotharsis]

the struggle of having no phys stigs... also wait is susannah's basic attacks not considered melee?? do those stigs that buff melee only work on valks that are full melee

[@weedybongzalez8333]

Jup Only bleed dmg increase Dmg increase and physical dmg increase work Nothing like crit,melee/range dmg even if it has "phys" between it

[@malificajones7674]

Probably the worst Valkyrie they've released so far. The rhythm game ultimate is incredibly annoying, especially when you're focusing on tight rotations.

[@NoirCovers]

alternative stigmatas better than aladdin 2pc for susannah?

[@MarisaHonkai]

Aladdin still stronger, just no sp regen

[@nailigniststarzear6689]

why only PC Or joystick user can do 1 button Susannah Ult? shouldn't Touch screen user have option to just press at same place too.....? whyyyyyyy? Sure while I personally somewhat have problem with 1 of 3 pattern of it(the one that start at middle and go around instead of left>right or right>left ) it is not that hard to do 5 perfect hit Susannah ult but still ......why touch screen user don't be allowed to have QoL option like that too (time to plug joy stick with my mobile phone :HimekoLMAO: for fun .shit and giggle) 🤣

[@aeries_wawa]

As a new player that joined and quitted because of phone problem and now is back, I don't understand the instructions given. T-T I can't understand the complicated words or what they stand for...

[@CY-jd5sm]

But my Grisseo only got Cezanne T & B don't have M part, so i use Beethoven M to replace it. HoS currently i use full Holmes set, but now the chart say replace m part with Mei Beach Party, Not sure if there other alternative for Grisseo & HoS. Sussanah got 4/4 gear set already.

[@MarisaHonkai]

Full holmes is fine too. I cant put everything here. Beet M also doesnt work since Susannah dmg is not melee

[@Adam.212]

Do you guys know any HoS build with Aladdin TM ? These are the only dupes i got

[@MarisaHonkai]

Use anything that gives Physical Tdm or Bleed DMG

[@mint779]

Is that ok just to have her signature weap and then stop pulling her stigs? Idk if other stigs are enough to cope with QUA weather so my FR can finally retire

[@MarisaHonkai]

If you're just aiming for redlotus, then that is more than enough assuming you have the supports

[@mint779]

@@MarisaHonkai Thanks a lot! I will wait until v3 Hare to decide who I should go for. Susannah is a lot more affordable for my terrible gacha luck to deal with QUA weathers.

[@farkir1]

Can i ask Where's hare guide?

[@beyond.uranus]

For Qua weather, who is better Nyx or Sus?

[@SK-cd8rz]

Nyx dead since release, not to mention Susan cheaper and has better dmg output

[@MarisaHonkai]

susannah better and cheaper nyx is dead

[@AnhTran-kf7tj]

Cry in no Griseo's gears

[@PatrickMCroft]

How did people even play honkai before Marisa?

[@mikyu0735]

What about Beethoven set? Does somebody know if it works xD? Also great video ty as always for helping with builds ❤

[@MarisaHonkai]

Beethoven M does not work on Susannah

[@japderby9990]

Beethoven buff melee physical DMG, bleed DMG isn't counted as either melee or range so no, she doesn't get benefit from Beethoven

[@christophera.1687]

Should i wait for Griseo's gear or just bet on Sus's gears

[@jihility]

imo Griseo is too old already. If you don't already have Griseo's gear, just skip Susannah. If you need a physical support, pull for Prometheus' gear next patch. If you are talking about Sushang, her gear is pretty good.

[@rissuettessa1048]

Had to go 4 pulls from pity for t…. I’ll stop at weap + tm

[@digitaldivuhhh]

Fine, I'll build Susan 😞

[@Metlaer]

The real question is: is she worth (for RL/Nirvana) if I'm still missing Cezanne M and Griseo's weapon?

[@disciplinaryblessing]

it's not a problem to replace Cezanne M by Mei Beach M Griseo's weapon... you need it really

[@lucyhasnoidea]

The 2 pieces of gear you miss are the only pieces of her gear I have

[@weebs4907]

as f2p nah , we will got selee new battlesuit anyway sooner or later

[@AeliaNLuna]

Is it good to get HoS in adv supply if I dont have her? :(

[@saimyintmyat9373]

She is very much worth it.

[@ryuki9788]

No. Don't ever touch adv supply if you don't have the character or you're not a spender.