Suspension or Appoggiatura? - Music Theory

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"Yesterday" (The Beatles) starts on an appoggiatura. PS like the new white board!

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[@watsjd1]

I was just discussing with a friend a few days ago how difficult it is to write block chord natation for guitar over lyrics when there are a lot of suspensions to be dealt with. C, Fsus2, F, Gsus4, G, etc.

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[@NomeDeArte]

Always get confuse with this two concept. How amazing way to teach it, thank you very much!

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[@corentinmusique]

In a four part harmony, could we have a triple suspension (4/3 7/8 and 13b/13 for example) or is it just another chord?

[@MusicMattersGB]

4/3 and 7/8 are common. 13b/13 sets up contradictory harmony so wouldn’t really qualify as a suspension.

[@randolphmitchell6851]

Great discussion of the technical differences. Perhaps another video could lean into (!) compositional choice -- when is an appogiatura preferable to a suspension and vice versa. It seems to me that a suspension could "easily" be replaced with an appogiatura, but not so much the other way 'round. What are the aesthetic considerations that would lead a composer to one vs the other?

[@MusicMattersGB]

You’ve absolutely summed it up there but yes, could be a future video.

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[@lawrencetaylor4101]

Gareth, I've been practicing exercises from CPE Bach and I've been learning about suspensions, but only from looking at the sheet music, and I had several questions. You helped answer so many of them with your examples. Merci. Is the PSR part of an Authentic Cadence? Can the appogiatura also be considered a cadence? If it is, is it a weaker cadence?

[@MusicMattersGB]

That’s great. These things might happen at cadences but they often happen elsewhere.

[@jonathanwingmusic]

Such a wonderfully clear explanation. Thank you!

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[@SilverWolf941]

Can an appoggiatura or escape start with a Major 7, b9 or a #4?

[@MusicMattersGB]

Major 7 is very common. B9 often occurs in a minor key or as a chromatic note in a major key. #4 is less common but perfectly possible

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[@carlstenger5893]

Great explanation. I prefer to write suspensions (as opposed to appoggiaturas) when composing for choirs. Having singers "lean into" the dissonance is (to me) far more dramatic for the listener and more fun for the singer.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Good point

[@egilsandnes9637]

@@MusicMattersGB Since this video is basically "only" explaning terminology: Are there different terms to differenciate between a suspension like you just played them on the piano (with the P and S as distinct notes/sounds) and the way you would often do in choir music where the suspended note is performed as one note/sound? Also: From the video I understand that the term "double suspension" refers to two suspensions happening at the same time. What do you call two or more suspensions that "tie together" from chord to chord, so that two or more suspended notes overlap each other partially? (Again choir music or organ music comes to mind.) What I often find useful about videos like this is that the consepts are not really new to me, I more or less conciously use these techniques when composing, but I often lack the terminology. Having the terminology can help sorting ideas somewhat.

[@egilsandnes9637]

From the video I understand that the term "double suspension" refers to two suspensions happening at the same time. What do you call two or more suspensions that "tie together" from chord to chord, so that two or more suspended notes overlap each other partially? (Choir music and organ music comes to mind.)

[@MusicMattersGB]

Chain of suspensions

[@YourFavouriteColor]

In conservatory, I was also taught that appoggiatura, alongside the properties you describe, is preceded by a leap, and resolves in the opposite direction by step. An escape tone accents on a chord tone, then goes by step to a tension, then resolves in the opposite direction by leap. Then there is passing tone and neighbor tone, etc. Do these other parameters matter, or is an "appoggiatura" have a looser definition than I thought?

[@MusicMattersGB]

What you describe would definitely be an appoggiatura because of the leap onto the appoggiatura. It’s a common appoggiatura design but not the only one.

[@YourFavouriteColor]

@@MusicMattersGB so to clarify, is a "neighbor tone" a subset of appoggiatura? Or does a neighbor tone only count if the tension comes on a weak beat?

[@MusicMattersGB]

@@YourFavouriteColor A neighbour tone (otherwise known as an auxiliary note) is different in function. It occurs when you start with a chord tone (harmony note) then go up or down one note then come back. If this happens between beats it’s unaccented; if it happens on a beat it’s accented.

[@YourFavouriteColor]

@@MusicMattersGB I see. But then what's the difference between an an appoggiatura and an "accented neighbor tone?"

[@MusicMattersGB]

@@YourFavouriteColor The approach note

[@simongross3122]

Thank you. Good explanation. Small question: if an appoggiatura is written as an ornament, is it played at full value or as a grace note?

[@MusicMattersGB]

The appoggiatura normally takes half the value of the following note

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[@krishnas4939]

Isn't a preparing note required to be consonant? In your example @7:43 how is the seventh (F) of the V7 (which is a dissonance) preparing the suspension in the subsequent bar? Also, is consonance here defined w.r.t to the bass or the chord? In other words is the F note of G7 chord considered dissonant even when (say) D is in the bass (i.e. a second inversion V7 chord)?

[@MusicMattersGB]

F is consonant with the V7 chord ie it belongs to the chord. Think of the chord rather than the inversion

[@TheGoesting]

Dear professor, thanks for your clear overview on the topic. I am wondering what you would think of bar 7 of Händel's "Lascia ch'io pianga". The first note of the melody seems to be an appoggiatura, but is also harmonised as IV7-ii6, so it is a chordal tone. Do you agree it is not an appoggiatura but rather an unprepared seventh?

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I think it’s a 7th if I’m thinking of the right bar.

[@TheGoesting]

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Great tutorial! Thank you!

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[@nixonkutz3018]

Interesting that the 4 and the 7 of the V7 chord are a tritone interval which some consider the most dissonant - perhaps that gives just that much more tension for the resolution to the I chord

[@MusicMattersGB]

There’s certainly a tritone between the 3rd and the 7th in a V7 and yes, it creates tension that needs to resolve - hence the advice that usually the 7th falls by step and the 3rd rises by step.

[@JackStevenson5045]

excellent lesson. Great methodology.

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Awesome thanks

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[@jessicapsalmist8205]

Thank you for this informative video . Are the appogiatura same as passing note and Could we say suspension is like sustained in music or sustained chords are different? Thank you

[@MusicMattersGB]

They’re not quite the same things. Have a look at our videos on those subjects

[@amd5471]

Excellent lesson Gareth, thank you. Can a suspension resolution be a diatonic step, or must it always be chromatic?

[@MusicMattersGB]

It’s more likely to be diatonic than chromatic

[@elena-hx2sd]

Hello and thanks for your video. As far as I know, when the note has a resolution step down it has a name suspension and a resolution step up has a name reitardation. Am I wrong? Thanks

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[@tioliak]

2:25 Hi mister. Isn't it a 9-8 suspension? How does it differ from apogiatura?

[@MusicMattersGB]

The question rests on whether or not it’s prepared.

[@rhys2932]

As a music teacher, I'd be keen to know what software you were using to write the notation during this video? Thanks!

[@MusicMattersGB]

GoodNotes for the iPad.

[@martinbennett2228]

One question: is the reason appoggiaturas were written with small notes that they did not belong to the underlying harmony? Unfortunately this has led to ambiguity when it is not clear if the composer wanted an appoggiatura or an acciaccatura (e.g. Mozart's D major rondo). Also, as in your example, if written with small notes it would not be clear whether to play the appoggiatura for one beat or two.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Yes, in relation to your question. Agreed re ambiguity - one has to make the best possible interpretation of the situation.

[@markE946]

I learnt that the appoggiaturas were on the beat and the acciaccaturas were before the beat, the latter has a slash through the note

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Appoggiaturas are on the beat. Acciaccaturas could be either on the beat or before depending on the composer and the context.

[@Mehaar]

thank you

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[@bigpicturehero]

Useful, thx! I love playing around with both these techniques, but I am often unclear _where_ to use them. I guess the obvious answer is: consonant downbeat (p), dissonant upbeat (s), consonant downbeat (r). Or at a higher level: for an answer, or cadence, since they add sweetness to a resolution.

[@MusicMattersGB]

s normally occurs on a strong beat. There’s flexibility with p and r

[@bigpicturehero]

@@MusicMattersGB I stand corrected. Good to know.

[@MusicMattersGB]

No worries

[@TheAtheistworld]

So any note of the chord can be approached by appoggiatura? Appoggiaturated so to speak. Thnx bro❤

[@MusicMattersGB]

Yes

[@francobonanni3499]

How about a base appoggiatura and suspension....is it possible and how?

[@MusicMattersGB]

Absolutely possible in just the same way.

[@RandyBakkelund]

Is it common for an appoggiatura to have full chords in them, meaning at least 3 notes? or is it more common to just be 2 notes followed by 1 note like your first example? Otherwise, with notation if you used the half sized note with the slur, it would look strange for a 3-4 note chord I think.

[@MusicMattersGB]

It could be either

[@newplato5711]

It seems it's a matter of definition. Taylor's book would call those suspensions "strictly appoggiaturas", because the notes are not tied. Other books would just call them suspensions.

[@MusicMattersGB]

Suspensions can be sustained or repeated notes as p progresses to a.

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[@chrisschurchill2003]

Give me a example

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There are examples in the video.

[@chrisschurchill2003]

Sorry I guess I should have watched a little longer

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