Your prop concerns are silly. Going from shear pins to a rubber bushing insert is awesome! The rubber bushing doesn’t break, it’s designed to slip when struck!
@Mypitbull824 жыл бұрын
I bought the older style one today it was it was in the box and never opened left in a garage the guy just never got round to using it I paid $400 for it good deal I think
@Ehh_why-not5 жыл бұрын
It's always good to get an opinion of someone that's used them both and had to rip then both apart a bit
@Guns_N_Gears Жыл бұрын
2 things to note about having a fuel pump. #1 is, if the float in the carb sticks open, it wont fill the entire engine with gas. #2, if you run it completely dry of gas, it will take some pulling on the start rope, just to prime the fuel system
@johanr66112 жыл бұрын
The old 2006 model has no continous water stream, only some drops thru the 2 exhaust holes when the thermostat is open.
@davidgoughnour39426 ай бұрын
So does my 2007
@cheapescapefishing573 жыл бұрын
If you have a 2010 or newer it's very easy to ascertain the year. The first two numbers after the dash. For instance the 2010 model is 01, 2011 is 11, 2012 is 21, 2013 is 31 all the way to 2019 which is of course 91. Before or after gets a bit more confusing.
@kbutcher3572 жыл бұрын
Somebody's selling a '12 that I've been looking at, you saved me future headaches, thank you!
@Gender19794 жыл бұрын
just got my early 80s game fisher to work, thought of the problem while watching your video, which is funny cause it was like bam i havent tried this and it worked :P
@rhinevalleygarage4 жыл бұрын
Now this guy knows how to do a comparison video! 👍
@chachacheng93802 жыл бұрын
If he running the motor, people will see 2,5 Yamaha is better.
@MattDunton3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison and information about the changeover in design 2012 - that's very helpful.
@MKlukowski Жыл бұрын
Great overview. Thx for the time and effort that you put into this vid
@david89200623 күн бұрын
Hi. Do you have any videos information or tips on how to service/change the nylon steering bushes on the DF2.5 . Mine is getting very stiff ? Thanks in advance
@ivanfishingspots7 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, I hope you are well. What shaft do you use for your kayak 15" or 20" on your outboard motors?
@AliexFolgueira5 жыл бұрын
we sunk the 2019 version twice and rebuilt it.. it running!
@mauart.78935 жыл бұрын
This are good engines but Steve should be paid for taking it to the next level!
@kingdavey905 жыл бұрын
I thought I was hallucinating from being tired, seeing what appeared to be brown furry critters moving on the ground, glad it's just chickens!
@billisit96614 жыл бұрын
Valuable information, especially about the prop. Thanks
@stephenburnage76875 ай бұрын
The issue I have with my older (2011) Suzuki 2.5 is that the compression ratio seems very high, which means that it requires a lot of effort to start it (more than my wife can manage). A label on the side says it is an efficient 'Euro' model. Was hoping that if I bought a newer model (probably two stroke) it would be easy to start. Thoughts?
@PondsSoloFishing5 жыл бұрын
That is a really awesome custom setup. Nice comparison.
@dustinmcandrew4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
@mymonster1563 жыл бұрын
Suggest you do a video on installing a fuel filter in all the 2.5 Suzuki engines. Its crazy that there is no filter! The gas lines are 3/16 inch. My carburetor had lots of black plastic like debris plugging everything up. I wonder if its from the plastic and hose in the new vacuum assisted fuel pump, possibly related to alcohol in fuel??? Also. the fuel filters should be installed in the fuel line as close as possible to the carburetor.
@phillipmele5 жыл бұрын
5:1, I’ll take that into consideration 😂😂😂
@rocksunderwater9 ай бұрын
What spare parts would you Say are essential to keep aboard when motoring the Suzuki 2.5? I suppose a shear pin if you have that model
@hedynoble77125 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve I met you in KW last year while launching your boat. I live in BPK and just bought a used 8 foot livingston dinghy from sea center. What motor would your recommend for using in back country. I am 60yo woman and this will be my first motor. Thanks and love the video's and information.
@andrewfalik25043 жыл бұрын
I’ve had 3 of these motors since 08. Two old styes and one new. The biggest problem I’ve had with all 3 is the engine stalling after running for 30 to 50 minutes. To correct this so I can get home I’ve had to carry a replacement carb with one I cleaned or a new one and do the exchange up a creek. Not fun.Sometimes I get the entire remaining season out this exchange and for the most part one or two trips before the engine dies on me. I’ve had the engine checked out every year by the dealer and they found no problems. Yeah in a test tank it runs fine for 2 or 3 minutes but get it on the water where it’s pushing a canoe at 3//4 throttle at 7 mph and it will most like die after die after 1/2 hr. My best guess what the carb problems might be is the the small jet sizes a the poor float adjustment design.
@tiemanmalcolm2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting, I’ve just got a 2.5 pushing a small tender, and the same thing happened to me after 15-20 minutes? It just stops running, leave it for a bit and it starts up again fine? Fuel starvation, jet blocked or float adjusted wrong?
@eduffy4937 Жыл бұрын
@@tiemanmalcolm sounds like a junk vented fuel cap.
@arussell1014 жыл бұрын
STEVE, what did you used to do for a living? You’re a super smart knowledgeable guy
@drewwill26503 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and for helping me catch more fish! 😃
@davidtasker94395 жыл бұрын
Great vid, interesting and helpful.
@KernyWilson4 жыл бұрын
I doubt you'll respond and looking through the comments I see no response but I'll ask a random question. Have you ever thought about taking the older lower prop and putting it on the newer motor or can you do that?
@johnryan21932 жыл бұрын
Thanks matey ! Great information !
@Ira888814 жыл бұрын
Great video, dude. I’m looking for something small and light for a 12’ inflatable cat, but the shear pin on the older models is a must for me. I’m only going to be in the very shallows around mangroves in Card Sound in Key Largo. I’m even considering just going with a 55 trolling, because on a boat this small, seems stupid to have both. Are there any other really small OBs you know of that have that quick repair for the shear pin?
@thomasstwo4 жыл бұрын
There is a reason no manufacturers use shear pins anymore. The first time you hit a rock you will probably shear the pin. I hit rocks dozens of times before the rubber clutch in my prop finally went. By then the blades were in bad shape anyway. So I just replaced the prop.
@Grahammilsome4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2007 model, despite replacing the water pump, i do not get a continuous stream of water out of the 2 holes on the back of the motor. Any ideas?
@ZLRob4 жыл бұрын
Check the intake line of the pump for a blockage. It's likely you have a small pebble or something lodged in it. I just saw a video of a guy attempting to track down the same issue. I'll see if I can find it for you a little bit later.
@johanr66112 жыл бұрын
The 2006 model or first/old serie doesn't have a continuous water stream. Only when the thermostat is open, a limited number of drops wil l output on the 2 holes, together with the exhaust fumes.
@ianmountford5996 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have just purchased a 2007 one of these and it doesn’t have the tell-tail (water cooling indicator) would I need to get the motor warm for the thermostat to open or should this happen from start up, TIA
@stephenhill40832 жыл бұрын
Great video very well done. I wish the model years of each motor had of been disclosed.
@MarkJohnson-vp3uk2 жыл бұрын
I am currently using mine on a Catalina 22 Carpi sailboat (race boats like light motors) and it will push the boat to over 5mph which is the maximum in the harbor. My issue occurs when I rotate the motor 180 degrees in order to back out of the slip. When I rotate it back around to push the boat forward it will often stall. I finally learned to rotate the motor very slowly in order to minimize sloshing in the float bowl or fuel starvation? I don't know the reason why, but I wonder if the new system with the gravity feed device was installed to minimize stalling?
@WilliamDuncan-q6v23 күн бұрын
does he older 2.5 with the 2 holes not spit water out of it ? i know the newer ones spit out the pee hole in the lower unit . i cant find any info on that .
@mattgab4254 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy new Suzuki 2.5 owner. How much oil do you typically put it your motor?
@bennwilliamson26053 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@Jacksea4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video! I had an old df2.5 and after 10 years I replaced with a new one. Here in Italy the new model doesn’t have any vacuum pump. What do you think about that? Tanks! _/\_
@jozq92773 жыл бұрын
Same here in Finland thank god. Nice and simple system :)
@sfbluestar Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on how to repair the lower unit? I also have an outboard whose propeller hit a rock and would not rotate any more even though the motor is running. I searched online and there seem to be no such instruction video. If you can make one that would be the one and only so far!
@tellrich294 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jamesg41954 жыл бұрын
Nice video man. I have the newer style. Do you know how and where we can grease this? I can't find anything online. Thanks.
@bobjohnson25703 жыл бұрын
Old propeller connection more practical.....can you change the new motor propeller connection to work like the old one ??
@patrickcalcagno33195 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should do a video on ur motor set up on your kayak next!
@elwakasama31573 жыл бұрын
Thank you Master, you´ve made a great job, explaining about this interesting motor outboard, some day I gonna buy one, maybe 15 Hp, greetings!
@johnroddy87564 жыл бұрын
Ya the 2 stroke is hassle oil mix ,but less complex machine less to go wrong.big factor to remember
@ammerudgrenda8 ай бұрын
There are several advantages with 4-stroke: - better fuel efficiency. - less noise. - better reliability.
@rweinc14243 жыл бұрын
In the newer models install a fuel filter just after the fuel pump. Its more difficult in the older models with a short fuel line and no pump. It's critically important!
@eduffy4937 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you put a filter before the pump? You want junk in the vac pump?
@mymonster156 Жыл бұрын
@@eduffy4937 ... If there is room, do it. As long as it is before the carburetor
@eduffy4937 Жыл бұрын
@@mymonster156 yep. The gauze filter isn't enough for me.
@DirtRoadGroceryStore2 жыл бұрын
Have you actually measured the speed or just estimating??
@josefloridaflatsfishing24785 жыл бұрын
I'm with the chickens...tried n true old school always works best.
@redwood19575 жыл бұрын
Very good review I hope the mnfg. Is watching thank you
@LU8HRW3 жыл бұрын
One question, the engines are manufactured in which country? China? Thailand?
@yamahass665 ай бұрын
These engines and 3,5 have servere problems with running what so ever, due to bad carburator design. Did they ever fix this?
@NghiaPham-xi5so4 жыл бұрын
Can you connect to external gas tank?
@Gator_Bait_Motorsports2 жыл бұрын
Always trust your chickens' opinion!
@timwilliams78344 жыл бұрын
What size PVC pipe did you use for your outboard motor stand?
@foiloco3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks for sharing.
@mauart.78935 жыл бұрын
I own a df2.5 with the old fuel system( no pump) but the new propeller. I'll check out the year with the number. Thanks Steve.
@cup_and_cone5 жыл бұрын
What about rebuilding an older style lower unit and swapping it onto a new engine?
@fishnewhere3875 жыл бұрын
Yea I would like to know if the old lower is compatible with the new motor. Also the bushing prop, can a new bushing be pressed in or is it junk and you are looking at $150 every time you hit something?
@buffalorider35794 жыл бұрын
@@fishnewhere387 I've used bushing type props on numerous motors over the years and have hit things many times. Never ruined a bushing hub due to one impact, it took several impacts. The rubber bushing will "slip" in the hub until prop isn't striking anything, then resume driving the prop. Each time the hub slips, the drive friction is weakened slightly and over time will wear out.
@LB-oz9hv2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2hp two stroke circa 1991 for about 20 years and all kinds of abuse, finaly retired it last year. I purchased a brand new Suzuki 2.5 to replace it just fired it up after sitting for a year and it's running poorly, looks like I will have to take the carb apart and clean it. The old 2 hp was superior in nearly every aspect, lighter, smaller and way more power. The only advantage to the new one is that it has a neutral setting and it quieter. Even fuel consumption seems to be pretty close. The old motor had a 100/1 oil mix and that was important, she wouldn't run on 50/1.
@theshepherd704 жыл бұрын
whish version of the motor is this short or long ?
@joesebastion97205 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of how build your rig?
@hectorcorral24196 ай бұрын
can i get a bit better performace from df2 2,5 4 stroke suzuki
@jimwoodmansee4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, as usual. i am looking at 2.5 hp outboards for my Blue Sky Boatworks Angler 360 catamaran kayak that weighs about 140lbs. I am considering the Suzuki, Tohatsu, Mercury, Honda, and maybe Yamaha. Definitely 4 stroke. Any thoughts? Do you prefer your Suzuki? If so, why? How do you carry extra fuel on your setup? PS: i follow all your videos.
@vrva31384 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a DF2.5 (2020 model) 20" Shaft motor and It works perfectly fine except, when I try to steer at quarter to half throttle, the steering becomes stiff. So every time I have to turn, I have to bring the motor to a complete idle and then steer. The steering tension adjusting knob is set to loose. any advice on this is much appreciated. I have seen the same problem reported by another person in suzuki outboard forums and no one so far has been replied.
@moomin110 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate late reply. I find if u grease the bearing point where the motor clicks into the down position when you tilt it down helps. I think the stiffness is caused by the motors force on this point and it binds up slightly
@DaBinChe3 жыл бұрын
I think those fuel related stuff is for emissions.
@vrr22014 жыл бұрын
I was gonna buy it until I saw the portion of video about prop replacement. thanks
@jebackurvi61264 жыл бұрын
fuel pomp is only for using external tank.. Its option..
@tombeckett43403 жыл бұрын
Thanks great job.🇨🇦👍
@How2Bcool21244 жыл бұрын
How do you tilt the new 2.5...im at the water now and I can't get it to tilt up. Please help.
@akramalbiad28624 жыл бұрын
بغيت موحريك يماها ليلبيع صغير8+6
@rweinc14242 жыл бұрын
Bye the way, the fuel pump is a pump, not a reservoir! Like most small engine fuel pumps, they work off the intake manifold intermittent negative pressure, moving a diaphragm up and down, coupled with some small valves, that pump the fuel. The new generation of engines have a fuel pump, but still no fuel filter. Thats nuts!
@jayrunner33473 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for the manufacturer that says "we have bigger jets and bigger fuel passages for fewer carb cleans."
@DonatelaDonatelo4 жыл бұрын
Did you have eny carburetor problem 's
@lov2playtn4 жыл бұрын
Suzuki 2.5 outboard speeds up when put in neutral. Can you help?
@brandonlerman15404 жыл бұрын
mine 2.5 Suzuki outboard does the same thing. ya jams in to gear if revs too high after put in N. I use mine 200 days a year and have been living with it so i guess it has not blew yet but would be nice to fix.
@HeWhoHath3 жыл бұрын
Hit the choke for a second to tame it down.
@jeffhowland867 Жыл бұрын
Back the idle adjustment screw off by 3/4 turn, workd for me.
@bradb91465 жыл бұрын
The reason for the newer style pump is only to pass the emissions test in Commie-fornia . 😟
@craftsmandude89164 жыл бұрын
brad b I was working on mine the other day and all the fuel lines were cracked because of fing California
@bradb91464 жыл бұрын
@@craftsmandude8916 Buy some SEAFOAM and run that shit in every small engine you've got . It's about the only thing that I've found that actually works the way it says it does . I use it in every single drop of fuel that runs through one of my toys / tools .
@craftsmandude89164 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, I’ve been cheaping out, but I’ll definitely pick some up when I’m at wal mart. Also Fuck California
@graemed-g5224 жыл бұрын
hmmm Mercury has always used that dumb rubber shear pin system, I wonder if Suzu and Merc are somehow intertwined now? I had one shear pin go and I took off the prop on an old chrysler 9.2, got the new pin in and just as I was putting the cotter pin back in watched it spin to the bottom of the sea! I just happened to have some heavy electric wire in the boat and I strapped the prop on just wrapping it around the prop and through the cotter pin hole, you know what? that motor ran perfect for another 10 years that way, I mean it made absolutely no sense, but after a few hours I was like, hey, it works, I am not gonna mess with it now... ha ha
@youngypaul4 жыл бұрын
I have the ''old'' one, (bought brand new) Will never buy a small Suzuki again. They have a known problem with the carb blocking up. The tiny jets get clogged too easily. Even if you take precautions and drain the carb for storage and use clean fuel and additives it tends to not work. Apparently the ''new'' models have bigger jets. Its been to the shop several times and a month later runs like shit again. At the end of the day it's a hassle I could do without and will go back to tried and tested Yamaha or Tohatsu.
@afgamble3 жыл бұрын
I’m having a hell of a time trying to id my outboard. DF 2.5 00252F-120719 can anyone help?
@adriennetwenty-seven30185 жыл бұрын
The chicken factor is everything!
@jamesmalott78515 жыл бұрын
Always listen to the chickens.
@ambroulard4 жыл бұрын
Hi,, hey if you buy a new Suzuki I”m assuming it already has gear oil in it since that’s a relatively closed system. Am I correct in this assumption? I know you have to add motor oil to a new outboard.
@thomasstwo4 жыл бұрын
The one I bought had gear oil in it but not all the way to the proper level. It's not a closed system. According to the owners manual you should change the gear oil every 100 hrs or 12 months.
@Ahmetyetkinkayaksbikes4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@lov2playtn4 жыл бұрын
I am trying to break in the 2.5 in a barrel, but have a hard time pulling. Do you have a tip for me? I have shoulder problems...
@HeWhoHath3 жыл бұрын
Use your teeth
@anewguy084 жыл бұрын
hi, how often does the motor requires maintenance?
@tomzhang86753 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the dealer?
@pp-er4fg4 жыл бұрын
Price how much
@raleighbeersingh15014 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and informative...thanks Steve..
@jameslindow57295 жыл бұрын
Has anyone else ever used any other brand small (5 horsepower or less)motors like tohatsu mercury or Yamaha? Just started looking around and wanted to see want other people have experienced?
@velocity8005 жыл бұрын
James Lindow they all have one thing in common, they’re all loud,,, suzuki 2.5 is the most quiet motor ive ever used..
@MackinNC14 жыл бұрын
I have a 2.5 mercury that is fairly quiet and it is an awesome little outboard, see it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZfTeoyibsl1q8k
@windowclean1005 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@fredturk6447 Жыл бұрын
Don’t buy one. Two big issues. They are a pain to start. The four stroke has a big kickback when you pull the start cord. The cord can forcibly pull back and your hand goes with it, smash into the cowl which hurts. Second issue, the exhaust valve gets rust on the stem, sticks, complete loss of compression. None of the reviews mention these issues, you have to search for the issues with this outboard.
@savagestyle1245 жыл бұрын
first!!!
@chachacheng93802 жыл бұрын
Run the motor, not just bub bub bub!
@jeffreycr14 жыл бұрын
Mi motor es diferente
@Faizeesha3 ай бұрын
2 stroke is better
@vinniesdayoff39685 жыл бұрын
Looks like they improved it worse
@stanleybest8833 Жыл бұрын
It's all talk. Thousands of words and we don't even get to see how they idle.
@carl32335 жыл бұрын
show how to replace the water pump on your suzuki 2.5 hp four stroke thank you very much they are both made in thailand meaning slave labor they should have made it in japan . suzuki dont want to pay labor cost .