Suzuki DR-650 Valve Check and Adjustment Tutorial (HD)

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jaetheo

jaetheo

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@eveRide
@eveRide 11 жыл бұрын
Dude you're good at these... HD helps a LOT. My only criticism is that your DR650 is way cleaner than a DR650 has a right to be. :-) You should probably come to Southern Utah and we can fix that problem in a day or two.
@AftaabGulam
@AftaabGulam 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demystifying valve checks and adjustments for us. In Canada, my mechanic would charge me a minimum of 4 hours to do this job which would be $400! He also grimaced when I asked about it. I'd rather do it myself so that I know how to do it in the future and don't have to deal with overly expensive charges and a reluctant mechanic. Quality of the video is fantastic. Cheers :)
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad I could help make life a little easier!
@SailingCorina
@SailingCorina Жыл бұрын
Your mechanic is taking advantage of you because it took me under an hour to do it without experience. How can someone justify 4 hours? Doesn't sound honest.
@AftaabGulam
@AftaabGulam Жыл бұрын
@@SailingCorina, I suspect he doesn't know how to do it or is thinking of the bucket and shim-type valve check. Regardless, I've learned how to do it and it doesn't take long with the right tools.
@mateostyle
@mateostyle 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I adjusted the valves and had starter bogging issues. Your video was a big help!
@scottk.8494
@scottk.8494 7 жыл бұрын
Good video and this will help with my first DR650. Another option besides vice grips on the extension is to simply use a breaker bar.
@polynicient
@polynicient 5 жыл бұрын
not sure if it makes a difference but the Suzuki shop manual says to line up the line-not the “T”. The T is just the label for the line
@robsadler5605
@robsadler5605 4 жыл бұрын
Jaetheo, just wanted to say thank you for this video and for answering questions in the comment section. It's been years since you posted this but it's a treasure. You're a class act. Thank you so much for the beautiful tutorial! -Rob
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment! I am always happy to help out another biker! I have more videos in the works, but I am horrible at finishing projects so they may be months or years before I get around to them :)
@PennsylvaniaDualSport
@PennsylvaniaDualSport 4 жыл бұрын
I have no internet where the bikes are kept so ill be bringing my DR into the living room (again LOL) to follow your guidance on my laptop. Thank you for putting this together
@spankervideo
@spankervideo 9 жыл бұрын
Bravo with the wood screw trick for a square socket. Emphasize to NEVER make the adjustment with the feeler gage in between the adjuster and the valve. I have seen so many people do this it boggles my mind. Thanks for showing it done correctly.
@liveyourselftodeath
@liveyourselftodeath 7 ай бұрын
What is the problem with making the adjustment with the feeler gauge in the gap?
@moosemusic6703
@moosemusic6703 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video and tutorial. Camera work made everything much clearer to me. Thank you.
@314adv
@314adv 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid - seeing it done makes reading the manual a lot easier to understand.
@jokerace96
@jokerace96 9 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Czech. Thx a lot i didn´t know how the Tline looks like and u revealed this little thing to me.
@godygody6320
@godygody6320 8 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I didn't know you can own dr650 in Europe.
@aretee3
@aretee3 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much jaetheo. I have a 2013 and will do the adjustment this weekend. I have waited too long to do the adjustment as I'm at 2,700 miles but I should be OK. I called the dealer and they said just make sure you don't get close to 7,000 miles before you do it.
@suzetteshipman2741
@suzetteshipman2741 3 жыл бұрын
There is a major problem !! The significant wear of the valves occurs at the seat in the head and the contact point with the valve itself. When this wears down the valve clearance gets SMALLER. The .004 for the intake and .008 for the exhaust is the MINIMUM because of the wear in the seat. If you set the valves at the minimum your bike will SOONER get to the point where the wear causes the clearance to disappear, at which point the valve will stay open and burn up. It is better to adjust the valves from the average UP to the MAXIMUM. In your case .006 to .008 intake and .010 to .012 for exhaust. Doing this will give you 2 or 3 times the mileage before damage occurs due to TIGHT no clearance valve. Do not exceed the maximum. Above the maximum another problem developes with noise and the top of the valve gets mushroomed from the spike load from the adjustment screw, caused by the sudden ramp up. Think of it like if you took a hammer from 1 inch above a nail vs a hammer blow 6 inches above the nail.
@MrDuhfactor
@MrDuhfactor 11 жыл бұрын
Way to go Jae!! Nice tutorial! Having adjustable rocker arms is really nice, another reason to love the zuke!!!
@DustySquitoNM
@DustySquitoNM 11 жыл бұрын
Very well put together tutorial. Doing the valves tonight, and I wanted to see what I needed to look for with the TDC thing.
@anhtuanphan6159
@anhtuanphan6159 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. It takes all the mysteries out of valve adjustments.
@kevinnowell8508
@kevinnowell8508 10 жыл бұрын
Good quality video. Not sure if anyone has advised you, but the Suzuki Maintenance Manual says "Turn the crankshaft until the T line on the magneto rotor is aligned with the center of the hole on the magneto cover"
@kc2koj
@kc2koj 10 жыл бұрын
do you put the line or the T in the center of the inspection hole
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 10 жыл бұрын
jerry taylor I believe I centered the T in the view hole, but there is some debate as to which one you are supposed to line up. I have read it both ways. Not sure that the 1-2 degrees of rotation on the motor would give you a different reading at the valves, so either way is probably fine.
@kevinnowell8508
@kevinnowell8508 10 жыл бұрын
To each their own. We each keep our own machines to our own specs and I would never intend to be critical of anyone elses work. But don't forget that valve clearances are measured in thousandths of an inch, so the extra rotation might make just enough difference...that said, I've never tested that theory yet. My valves will be due for inspection this coming winter, so I might try to verify the difference then. Ride it like a rental!
@Josecito777
@Josecito777 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Nowell You are right, but that's not that important. Once you see the T through the hole, you may rotate the engine side to side since both valves remain closed during a certain angle. As long as BOTH valves are closed you can adjust clearance just fine. TDC is important to engine ignition
@redneckpunkmudder
@redneckpunkmudder 4 жыл бұрын
I love your custom choke handle dude! Good video!
@dozerjohn
@dozerjohn 11 жыл бұрын
That's a damn fine production quality mate.
@JeffJeno1000
@JeffJeno1000 10 жыл бұрын
Nice tip re the square head screw, ingenuity at its finest. As we do ;-)
@ponca622622
@ponca622622 8 жыл бұрын
That is some info I needed on timing. My bike is a vl800 Volusia though and not so easy to get to the valves on it. Thanks for the informative video.
@rosarioroberto5823
@rosarioroberto5823 Жыл бұрын
Greetings WOW, what a fantastic detailed video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸. Keep producing more videos.
@Mainrollman
@Mainrollman 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'll be using this as a guide in the Fall to check my DR650's valves.
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 10 жыл бұрын
+2phalanges, the purpose for the valves is to open and close at the top of the cylinder head to allow the gas/air mix in, and a separate set open to allow the exhaust gases to escape. Over time, parts can wear down and the valve clearances change. This procedure helps to get the valves opening at the right time and the right amount.
@huggybear539
@huggybear539 9 жыл бұрын
jaetheo do you have a video on replacing the clutch cable?
@cjlaw100
@cjlaw100 8 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression you weren't supposed to bend shims because they were so fine measured it would throw it out of wack. Good to know that's not a problem.
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. I shot it on my new Nikon D5100. It was a much needed upgrade over my 10 yr old Canon point n' shoot.
@jason8842
@jason8842 10 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the professionally produced tutorial, this is extremely helpful. Where did you find the square head deck screw? I went to Lowes and Home Depot the other day and didnt find any square headed ones in the wood screw section. Also, is it a specific one, like a #8 or something? Wikipedia indicates that there are a number of different Robertson screw head sizes, but I'm guesseing its 1/8". Of course if I have to buy a big box of screws I might as well just buy the procycle thing.
@steviesaintanko2368
@steviesaintanko2368 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Love the screw trick. Thank you.
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. With the right tools the job is quite easy to do. I did see that Procycle now offers a little $10 Valve Adjustment Driver that they print on their 3D printer and it looks like it has a round head square-drive screw for the tip. Just as easy to make your own though.
@DustySquitoNM
@DustySquitoNM 9 жыл бұрын
+twangthing no, you do not have to drain the oil. According to the service manual, the only thing you should really keep in mind is that the motor needs to be cold when you check this. So do it on a weekend before you take it out riding. jaetheo thanks for the tutorial. I have no idea how the heck you got your engine to look that beautiful, but feel free to come do it to mine.
@ponca622622
@ponca622622 8 жыл бұрын
+dustysquito I have a vl800 went to pull the crankshaft cover out and oil came out of there. Is it too full or is that normal?
@jason8842
@jason8842 10 жыл бұрын
I bought the procycle adjustment tool and its a 1/8 inch wide opening, one that takes a #2 square drive bit. The feeler gauges they sell are bent at 45 degrees and their blade is half the width of a standard feeler gauge (about 7mm vs 15mm). Some swear this makes a difference.
@skipdippity
@skipdippity 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great views...so close. So easy..thanks man..!!
@Jimo368
@Jimo368 10 жыл бұрын
I made a similar tool using a Robertson screw for adjusting the 16 valves on my Bandit.
@elobiretv
@elobiretv 3 жыл бұрын
A very short breaker bar is also great for turning the engine instead of vice grips. I think it's the only time I've ever used mine
@legalizeme
@legalizeme 7 жыл бұрын
Scar tissue by RCHP disturbed me a bit... :D Great video, thank you very much!
@XrhstosGr
@XrhstosGr 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video , thanks for taking the time to share
@marcogonzalez7829
@marcogonzalez7829 4 жыл бұрын
DR650.com says to line up the horizontal line, not the T. With the bike in neutral, get a 17mm socket onto the nut inside the magneto cover cap and turn the crankshaft over slowly counterclockwise until the horizontal line below the 'T' on the magneto rotor is central in the timing inspection hole.
@klvo86
@klvo86 4 жыл бұрын
In: 0.08-0.13 out 0.17-0.22 according the user manuan by suzuki! Thnks 4 video!!
@steelmilkjug
@steelmilkjug 4 жыл бұрын
That's metric (milimeters). He's using inches (.004"/.008")
@phrankus2009
@phrankus2009 10 жыл бұрын
Nice, pretty, clean machine. ... One lucky bike !
@77loka
@77loka 8 жыл бұрын
so, was it clockwise? great videos. I'll be doing a check up on my DR650 soon. great info. please keep doing the tutorials.
@fuelman123
@fuelman123 8 жыл бұрын
by chance did u complete the valve adjustment on your bike? I am ready to do the procedure myself on the drz650....was it easy to compete?
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 8 жыл бұрын
+huey long Yes. I did complete it. It was pretty simple job with the right tools.
@fuelman123
@fuelman123 8 жыл бұрын
Going to dive into it this weekend..
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had to have it clean. The first time I did this, I did not clean things off well, and a little dirt fell down in. I had to spend a while cleaning it, since there is engine oil in there that would carry it down into the rest of the engine.
@SailingCorina
@SailingCorina Жыл бұрын
I watched 3 videos about this and all 3 said to center the "T" while my manual says to center the line next to the "T". You can definitely feel a difference in the turning of the crank between the T and line. The engine actually moves off the line to the T when you let go of the socket. I think the difference between the 2 positions is important with such tight tolerances. Now I am more confused. I guess I'll go against the manual and center the T instead of the line since no one has reported a problem.
@jaetheo
@jaetheo Жыл бұрын
When you do do adjust your valves, please text the measurements at both the line and the T and report back. I would like to know if there is a measurable difference since everyone seems to have the same question. Thanks!
@MsNevadakid
@MsNevadakid 10 жыл бұрын
thank you! tips were helpful...happy trails...
@Eagleguts
@Eagleguts 11 жыл бұрын
electricians use a lot of those kinds of screws great idea they normally are driven with what is known as a Roberts bit
@straightpipestudio6026
@straightpipestudio6026 4 жыл бұрын
Well presented vid, very clear. Excellent!
@donalfredisaac
@donalfredisaac 6 жыл бұрын
jaetheo good tutorial just need to know how often is this valve check done thank you
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 6 жыл бұрын
After checking around online, it looks like they should be checked at 600, 7500, 15000... and every 7500 miles after that.
@michaelpaccione3801
@michaelpaccione3801 9 ай бұрын
Those numbers are way off that procycle gave you... Haynes manual is .08-.13 intake and .17-.22 exhaust
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 9 ай бұрын
The numbers in this video are .004 (intake) and .008 (exhaust) in inches. If your gauges are metric, then it would be .08-.14 mm intake and .17-.22mm exhaust. Thanks for catching that! I should have included both inches and metric.
@michaelpaccione3801
@michaelpaccione3801 9 ай бұрын
@@jaetheo ohhhhh yeah okay man you're good then. Good call on the screw thing btw too bad I didn't have any 😆
@bill45colt
@bill45colt 11 жыл бұрын
using the correct tools would make it easier. Get a very small crescent wrench or open end wrench. They make them that small and you are sure to need them again. I was factory rep for Honda for two years for Ala and Ga. Most all maintenance and repair jobs on motorcycles are not hard to do in the least, you just need simple instructions and a set of tools to keep every thing running as it should. Good video
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 11 жыл бұрын
I tried using a stubby little box wrench, but I could not get a good fit on the lock nut due to the angle. Ideally, one of those open-ended go-through ratchets would work the best. That way, you could adjust the square head with the ratchet on the locking nut. Thanks for watching!
@bill45colt
@bill45colt 11 жыл бұрын
Ive not tried that engine but sometime you may have to grind a box end to suit you or heat and bend the handle for a different angle, or use a tubing wrench which is a box end but one side open. Creativeness here is the key. What ever you come up with, it will be neat to have a custom set that you have adapted, and will use later. Thanks for the good videos, keep them coming!!
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I aim to please. Let me know if there is anything else you would like to see.
@yoyohooyo
@yoyohooyo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an excellent instruction and your timer. counter clockwise, counter clockwise, counter clockwise, counter clockwise, counter clockwise, ????????? LOL
@rhino941
@rhino941 4 жыл бұрын
Big thanks for this!
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help the moto community! Stay safe out there! 😁
@intellectualkshatriya3046
@intellectualkshatriya3046 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏
@2phalanges
@2phalanges 10 жыл бұрын
im a beginner, but whats the purpose of valve check and adjustment? thanks friend.
@spartan8390
@spartan8390 9 жыл бұрын
You seem to be in the know on the 650 so I'll ask you. I just posted a video on my channel Spartan ADV and need some help. The video will cover it and it's only 3 minutes long. Thank you for your time!
@donaldbougie694
@donaldbougie694 5 жыл бұрын
Good video,thank you.
@jonpeters5194
@jonpeters5194 2 жыл бұрын
Is TDC the T or the line according to the manual?
@douglasbuck2359
@douglasbuck2359 3 жыл бұрын
Still has that stock fuel filter in the fuel nipple!
@karolinaja1
@karolinaja1 11 жыл бұрын
nicely done very helpful thanks
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 жыл бұрын
DO NOT turn the engine clockwise. That can damage the cam chain, cam chain guides, and tensioner. It is designed to ONLY turn counterclockwise. With the spark plug removed it should not turn too far when using a ratchet, since there is no compression. The little mark on the flywheel is useless once you understand what is happening. With the valve covers off, you want the engine at TDC on the compression stroke, with all the valves closed (I have no idea why Suzuki used 4 valves and 2 spark plugs, 1 spark plug and 2 valves would have been better and reduced complication on what is otherwise a very simple bike) When both valves are closed, they can be adjusted. Turn the engine over several times and watch the valves to get an understanding of what is going on. The valves will remain closed for several degrees of crankshaft rotation. Watch them closely, then turn the crankshaft just a little more before adjusting the valves.
@E_U_O
@E_U_O 4 жыл бұрын
If you set the loose tight switch in the middle it locks your ratchet.
@jerrydelacruz5119
@jerrydelacruz5119 3 жыл бұрын
Turn it counter-clockwise, right?
@ericfastclip9959
@ericfastclip9959 10 жыл бұрын
Do you know what size square head screw that you are using in the video to hold the valve adjustment screw? Is it a #8 or #10 ext? They only come in packs of 25 or more.I don't want to purchase the wrong size. Please advise.Thanks
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 10 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what the screw size is, the square head driver is a #2.
@ericfastclip9959
@ericfastclip9959 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That will help me find the right screw that I need for this job. Thanks again!!
@brandonjesse9668
@brandonjesse9668 11 жыл бұрын
very nice video!
@MRM-wp4gr
@MRM-wp4gr 9 жыл бұрын
Do you know for sure or not if turning the bolt clockwise will harm the engine?
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 9 жыл бұрын
I don't think it does any major damage, but when I turned mine the wrong way it sounded like there was sand in it.
@Oxenan17
@Oxenan17 7 жыл бұрын
+jaetheo the sound comes from starter gears. nothing will happen to them but surely sounds very bad
@227lazer
@227lazer 5 жыл бұрын
Great video no e scene trick.
@natewebb
@natewebb 9 жыл бұрын
torque wrench works better than vice grips for turning crank, otherwise great video
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 9 жыл бұрын
natewebb True. A fixed torque wrench will work better than a socket wrench since it has more control. The reason I used the vice grips was to line up and point the handle at the "T" line so I know where it is at. Either one will work to get the job done. Thanks for watching!
@blackhatch46
@blackhatch46 9 жыл бұрын
natewebb or a breaker bar too
@monkeygirl4202
@monkeygirl4202 10 жыл бұрын
I just got a 650 DR 97 model it needs some work and a few parts ..I was wondering if u could suggest an online parts site that's safe 2 order from and has the parts I need...please and thank u...
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 10 жыл бұрын
I have always had good success with ordering OEM parts from partzilla.com. I have used www.rockymountainatvmc.com and www.motorcycle-superstore.com for aftermarket parts. Of course, if you can find it used on eBay, that is usually the best deal as long as you read through the auction thoroughly.
@monkeygirl4202
@monkeygirl4202 10 жыл бұрын
jaetheo awesome thank you ..ill check them out..
@robertwrazen6159
@robertwrazen6159 10 жыл бұрын
jaetheo, thanks for the vid. Does your ratchet not have a locking center position for the forward/reverse so you can forego the whole vicegrip on socket business?
@jimp.6705
@jimp.6705 8 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial. But the line needs to be centered according to the manual, not the "T"..Does it really matter? Maybe not.
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 8 жыл бұрын
Jim P. I am not 100% sure that it matters one way or the other. There are differing opinions on it. The only real way to answer this would be to try it both ways and then measure each one with the feeler gauges. If you end up doing this, please let us know what you find out and I'll update the video. Thanks for watching!
@jimp.6705
@jimp.6705 8 жыл бұрын
jaetheo Just been doing it by the line man. Would those few degrees matter? Probably. The manual clearly states to center the line not the Y.
@adventureguy4119
@adventureguy4119 2 жыл бұрын
Neato
@DC-sh8mr
@DC-sh8mr 6 жыл бұрын
Center the Line not the T next to the line.
@user-well86
@user-well86 4 жыл бұрын
*как узнать когда мне надо регулировать клапана?*
@gregmccarter3640
@gregmccarter3640 6 жыл бұрын
How about a breaker bar. That's what I use
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 6 жыл бұрын
GREG McCarter that would work well too. The whole reason for using the vice grips was to align the angle of the grips with the T| marking to make it simpler to follow it all the way around.
@1WEEBLE1
@1WEEBLE1 9 жыл бұрын
how often do you adjust them
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 9 жыл бұрын
According to the shop manual, the first valve check should be at 600 miles. After that, replace the spark plugs and check the valve clearance every 7500 miles. Also, just FYI, oil changes should be every 3500 miles--though if you are riding in dusty conditions or crossing water you will want to do it more often.
@1WEEBLE1
@1WEEBLE1 9 жыл бұрын
jaetheo thanks
@ManiaKDaMicMurderah
@ManiaKDaMicMurderah 8 жыл бұрын
should this work for a dr350
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 8 жыл бұрын
I would assume that it would be similar but probably slightly different in the placement of things. Both are air cooled engines. Be sure to check the gap for your specific bike.
@ManiaKDaMicMurderah
@ManiaKDaMicMurderah 8 жыл бұрын
+jaetheo thanks for your reply. i do have the clymer manual i am pretty sure it is same clearance as your ex and in. but will double check on those numbers. but the physical part is pretty much identical i would assume? thanks for your tutorial
@jaetheo
@jaetheo 8 жыл бұрын
I had a DR250 and although I never got into it, the two valve covers looked pretty similar. The process will be similar since I believe the 350 has adjuster screws rather than shims. I am not sure what the valve clearances should be though.
@kidrauhljb
@kidrauhljb 8 жыл бұрын
+jaetheo i have the same 250 as the one behind your 650 is the process to adjust the valves the same with the 650? not talking about the gaps
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