Suzuki V Strom 650 XT Adventure Motorcycle - Why I bought it full review

[@patwatters8205]

Great review.In Febuary 2021 I treated myself to a black V-strom 650 XT for my 65th birthday,it is the 25th bike I,v owned since I bought my first Honda in 1972.I,v had everything from 50cc up to 1300cc this is my second Strom and I love them both.Last year I spent a month touring Spain and Portugal on the XT and I,m heading back there again in September.Also for my 66th birthday I got a Garmin Zumo xt like yours,cant wait to really test in out later in the year

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Pat that's awesome glad you enjoyed the review :) that sounds like you've had some awesome trips! I've found the Zumo XT to be brilliant so far excellent bit of kit I like how it shows what lane to be in at junctions that's so helpful and the sidebar is great for live traffic when it's linked to the phone I've been running the voice instructions to my sena headset as well.

[@prof.2248]

I drove most of the motorbikes available and if someone rides a lot, there's nothing better than a mid-range Japanese motorcycle. Weight, agility, reliability, versatility. Yamaha Tracer 7GT, Suzuki Vstrom 650 XT, Kawasaki Versys 650 absolutely perfect motorbikes for 90% of users.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Totally agree :) can't beat them for on road flexibility.

[@1Mcoach]

Honda nc750x manual, it is ok?

[@BibtheBoulder]

@@1Mcoach I had an NC750 DCT (auto) for 2 years and it was a revelation. Brilliant bike, and the DCT was awesome.

[@johnnycigarettes3325]

Good honest review. Well.done. After spending 20 years on litre plus bikes I took a punt on the wee 650 and am mighty impressed. I also own a 2021 1050 XT so have the best of both worlds but there is something really appealing about the 650. It is just an honest, simple lovely wee bike.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Johnny still getting used to being on camera and stuff always more I wish I'd covered but like doing it off the cuff. Yep I think the Suzukis really nail that fun functionality a real no thrills bike itl be interesting to see if some of the goodies from the 1050 filter down onto the 650 certainly can't beat the flexibility of having both! I've not had a go on the 1050 yet but looks a cracking package.

[@chrisbrown813]

I'm on my 4th WeeStrom and have only ridden in 65 countries of full-time riding over the past 12 years, but totally agree with you. My '18 in yellow also is not the best at anything, but is overall great at everything. I also agree that I'd like electronic cruise to replace my Kaoko manual cruise control. I also agree about smaller ADV bikes needed as my next trip is to ride the Stans.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Very nice Chris thanks for taking the time to Comment have you ever been to Iceland on your Strom I've been quite fancying a crf300 rally but they see a nightmare to get over here. I nearly got the 250 when I got the Strom but the 300 has some great changes to it :) thatl be amazing to ride the Stans bet you can't wait. Do you have instagram Chris?

[@jmroofingsuck]

Nice review. I have also been up and down the cc and power scale. New 650 xt pre reg deal ordered last week. Collect in 36 hours!!

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Awesome Nigel :) that's brilliant bet you cant wait enjoy!!!

[@nyedavis922]

Loved my DL, I went away from road riding so ended up selling it but I'd have another in a heartbeat. By no means perfect but the vstrom is like a faithful dog, its a loyal companion and one you grow to love.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Nye I totally agree they really do have that feel :) I've been taking a serious look at the 300 rally for a trip to Iceland that I'm going to do next year hopefully I'll be covering that more in a new video this week.

[@Oscar240z]

Totally agree with you. My 2019 XT 650 is just perfect for me as I don’t go on 2000 mile tours every month and generally ride locally. God knows why people need a 1250 GS to trundle around locally and go to the pub on sunny days! Total overkill - its just bravado really. I’m 6”3’ and regularly ride 2 up no probs on the XT - more than enough power for the real world.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks for the comment :) yep the Stroms got more than enough power that's for sure I still think it's the sweet spot engine wise sound performance etc for on the road. Norton had it right in the 60s in my opinion my Vstrom actually went last week can't argue with the residuals only lost about 400 quid after tripping the miles an that was selling it into a dealer to. Just bought two 390 adventure ktms for dad and I waiting on them being prepped at the moment so putting my money where my mouth is so to speak with lighter bikes :)

[@BibtheBoulder]

Couldn't agree more 240 Z. I fail to understand why so many people worship at the altar of the Beluga Whale known as the BMW1250GS I bought my 650 Strom after really thinking through what I REALLY wanted from a bike. The 650 Strom is good for 95+% of all journey's I make. Better than any other bike I can think of, and light enough it is never an issue to lug around. I now laugh at the GS riders when I see them risking a hernia to get their bikes 'ready for the off'

[@shanemeek81]

Excellent review. Very honest and transparent. Amazing all round machine, but agree with the weight issues. Still far to heavy for a lot of us mere mortals. I was looking for the perfect tourer , ended up with the KTM890 Duke in which I’ve added side and rear bags. 115 hp and 40kg less in weight. It’s the best bike I’ve ever owned for the riding I do. Now covered over 15,000km in less then 12 months of ownership. It’s the only bike I’ve owned where if I’m not riding it , I’m thinking about riding it ☺️. Ride safe and keep up the great reviews 👍

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Shane glad you enjoyed just put part 2 up chatting about my changing thoughts on ADV. That's awesome on the KTM I always think that's the most important thing with any bike if you love what you are riding even when you are not riding you are on the right bike :) happy riding!

[@shanemeek81]

@@adaptableadventurerider I’ll be sure to watch and subscribed. Exactly right with the bike philosophy. Find the most enjoyable bike for yourself, and in almost every case you can customize and personalize it to suit your needs. Providing the bike is built for the intended purpose of course. I’m not going to be doing the Dakar rally on the Duke anytime soon 😆.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@shanemeek81 thanks for the sub an yep haha that's a good point! I think the same with my Strom I'm sure someone out there's probably done part of the route on one though haha!

[@frankennis2947]

Ive just put a deposit on a 650 xt 2025 model. This is my 3rd 650 Strom. Was so close to buying the 800 RE but the 650 got me. My final thoughts apart from the devil you know thing was 650 is enough power, proven motor that's been upgraded with tweaks now n again. And the small lighter weight . Then the saving made on purchase cost will completely cover any extras. With crash bars and heated grips fitted as extra, on road $14,440. Australia.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Happy riding Frank the vstrom 650xt sure is a really complete package :)

[@GreatEgret]

Dang, that’s a great weight for an adventure bike (compared to the GSA, Africa Twin, and the like) that you’d want to take off-road. Good choice!

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks mate I actually made a slight mistake from a spec sheet should have checked the official site before 216kg in total a good exhaust would probably get it down closer to the 200kg madk :) still not bad though in comparison some of the wd ww2 bikes are 176-186kg with 10-15hp. The flat tanker is 265 lbs and 4.9hp totally transformed my opinions on bikes and weight. I'm still really curious about the Himalayan and keep really thinking about some of the lighter Japanese singles but it's all trade off for the highway performance.

[@neilmackinnon3371]

I honestly can't fault my VStrom 650. As I said on ABR forum I rode a Triumph Tiger Sport 660 a couple of weeks ago and it was a bit of a disappointment after all the glowing reviews, then I got back onto the VStrom and it was like sitting in my favourite armchair again. Lots of miles planned for this year. As for cruise control.... I have no need of one as I rarely use the motorways, although I may change my mind if I ever make the trip to Norway.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks for taking the time to comment on here as well Neil I think the comments could be a good resource for people comparing similar bikes for anyone looking at the VStrom. That's exactly how I feel with mine I had quite a bad wrist injury so sometimes it can ache a bit which is why I miss the cruise but then it comes with Fly By Wire which I couldn't stand on the 1200gsa so it's all swings and roundabouts :) I'm hoping to do Norway next year all being well n will most likely be using the V Strom an a 2nd might be coming into my garage for dad.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@Bobby Hulse hi Bobby check out Chris Scott's website of adventure bike handbook fame. He has a review up on the nc.

[@luziosalles324]

One of the best bikes ever made. A legend

[@adaptableadventurerider]

I completely agree it doesn't get the praise it deserves 🙌 I'd have another in a heartbeat tbh

[@balladofbalfe8914]

Great video, subbed. I have a 2020 650XT that I went to Germany for, 16k (KM) on the clock, saved a good bit versus buying in Ireland (even with ferries etc) and I got a good spin home! I've done some of those offroad upgrades you are thinking about - if you go on Strom Trooper new member introductions you'll see photos & discussion. cosmo accessories in Greece is where I got most of the protection stuff. Next (& last main) thing I have to do is tyres, I've the machine and balancer ordered, want to do it myself as have a few bikes and it makes sense to be able to swap out pure road vs 50/50 without dropping cash every time. Haven't yet concluded on which 50/50 tyres but will do in next couple of weeks - am going to ABR Festival end of June. Longer term I'll think about front fork upgrades whether that's progressive spring, emulations, intiminators & what not (I don't know much about the whole area as yet - and its not an issue until I start going offroad & maybe I'll say for what I'm doing its not worth the hassle). Overall - I love the bike, great onroad for long trips, or just the 35 min commute to work. I'm aware it (or moreso I) will have limitations offroad, but I don't see myself doing v technical stuff with it, its a bit big and heavy for all that - I've an old XR250 if I really want to 'go there' - but gravel roads, open fields, non technical single track - I think it'll do all that. 'Grumbles' - I find it a bit top heavy, esp with a full tank of petrol, would need to be wary of off camber situations - but that's more rider awareness & skill than a bike fault as such. I guess cruise control would be nice to have but.... no issues so far. ABS is not switchable, but you can (apparently) take out a fuse, or pop it on centrestand and get it to 'error out' - so a bit fiddly, most consensus is being able to turn off rear ABS for downhill offroad would be good. Don't see myself installing a DIY switch any time soon. There was a custom screen and heated grips on it already so all good there. Other bikes I'm interested in - Africa Twin (not DCT) would be the 'motherlode' as far as I'd be concerned - I'll prob never get it - but it appeals to me more than the universally accepted motherlode of the GS1250. The 300 Rally as basically a modernised XR250, a bit more road friendly, well able for what I'd do offroad (or at least after some suspension upgrade). GSX-S 1000 GT, a pure tourer but looks fun. Competitors - Tenere 700, maybe looks a bit more aggressive, probably better off road, but if like most they are mainly used on-road I'm not convinced it'd be as comfy as 650. KLR650 - would that even be considered in the same class?, Spite from Yammie Noob reviewing it lately, sounds not good. Himalayan?? - v. cheap, and lighter, but prob more a competitor to Rally 300, wouldn't have the motorway legs to compare with VStrom. You've already covered off the bigger bikes GS 1250 etc., again not directly comparable. Honda CB500X - I guess a slightly undercooked version of the 650XT but a definite option if on an A2 licence, and I guess the same general idea as the do anything/go anywhere vibe of the VStrom. Deliriously happy so far, long may it continue.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi mate firstly I just wanna say thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed review on yours and your thoughts I'm sure itl help lots of other people :) I'll check that out! Thanks for the sub to! My channels only tiny really with focusing on the Nortons mainly in the past. Yep its a tricky one isn't it with regards to the Africa Twin check out Chris Scott's website the legend who did the adventure bike handbook. He's just ran a Africa Twin an got rid of it explains why on his site. That's handy having the xr250! It's tricky isn't it to find something that does the compromise that the Vstrom does so well. I really love the idea or a Himalayan every time I get my leg over one in a dealer I love it but the weight is pretty much the same as the 650xt. Hopefully should be able to film my follow up video over the weekend and get it up on Monday very excited to get my thoughts up and get everyone's take and input on what I'm leaning towards for the Iceland Trip :) If you look at the gsx1000s make sure you test ride my dads eldest bro had one for a while very snatchy throttle.

[@balladofbalfe8914]

@@adaptableadventurerider I'm pretty sure the Himalayan is a bit lighter - quick google says 30kg wet (192 vs 220), and still about 10kg dry, but from what I can see you wouldn't want to be on a motorway for more than 30 mins on a Himalayan. The GSX I mentioned is the brand new GT model, all the reviewers are raving about it, so it sounds like throttle not an issue. Anyways, a bit 'leftfield' of the whole adventure bike scene, but one can dream. 🙂 I'll definitely check out that AT conversation - cheers! 👍

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@balladofbalfe8914 np :) yep I think they are about 200kg wet with abs on the himmy seen a few different things mentioned itl be interesting to see what they end up doing with the new 450 as that'd rumoured to have a 40hp liquid cooled engine. It's a shame though as it sounds like they are dropping the long stroke engine. One thing I love from my Norton singles is a good long stroke engine. Nathan Millward's channel is worth checking out if you havnt seen it yet some very interesting stuff.

[@balladofbalfe8914]

@@adaptableadventurerider Heard something about a bigger Himalayan alright, one to watch. Also heard the VStrom was going to go parallel twin (emmissions reasons) - would seem a bit of 'brand risk', a V Strom without a V.🤔 It's another reason I wanted to get a V before discontinued in the new bike market.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@balladofbalfe8914 indeed I heard that to itl be a shame if they do having a V is so unique and I really love the engine characteristics :) when I had my f800gs that drove me nuts engine wise was very flat in feel. Wouldn't bother me now but at the time I couldn't get into it.

[@Banditmanuk]

Its just a good solid reliable and reasonably economic adventure bike. If you're doing one up riding its probably good for most situations. Definitely see you coming with that colour

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Indeed no harm with being visible on the road :)

[@Banditmanuk]

@@adaptableadventurerider 🤣🤣 I ride a fluorescent yellow wheeled MT10

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@Banditmanuk haha awesome :)

[@markt5426]

Hi Mate, You seem to be happy with the bike and that's what counts at the end of the day.👍

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks mate yep she really suits me ^_^

[@juancarlosforero3046]

Gracias, un gran saludo desde Colombia, he comprado la mía, en pocos días la tendré, estoy muy ilusionado...!!!! 🙌🙌🙌

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi Juan Carlos I’m glad you enjoyed happy riding on your Vstrom :) 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@kkhalifah1019]

Almost bought one due to its bulletproof reliability.... until found out the waiting list was 6 months long due to supply issues. Then I went to Triumph and was out riding the new Tiger 850 just a week and a half later. The extra grunt of the new 888cc t-plane triple was a revelation, esp when touring with the wife & a full load of luggage.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Very nice! Yep I can imagine the 888 is awesome for two up riding I had a couple of 675 Triple race bikes and road bikes very engaging to ride :)

[@neilmackinnon3371]

When I recently rode the Tiger 660 the salesman suggested I try a Tiger 900, I asked if an 850 was available and he said 'no demo bike and every bike we get is sold.' I had the same conversation with another dealer six months ago.

[@kkhalifah1019]

@@neilmackinnon3371 You can test ride the 900, it is representative of the 850 with the exception of the bells & whistles (quickshifter, extra riding modes, adjustable forks, slightly larger screen, cruise control etc). More importantly the engine is almost exactly the same below 8000RPM. The only diff is that in the 900 guise it squeezes out just a little bit more power & torque towards the 10,000RPM redline.

[@kuladeeluxe]

That is the bike I'd most likely buy to replace my Vstrom.

[@billgilkerson5294]

Triumph 850, 900 my perfect bike I fantasized about UNTIL I road a couple of times, lumpy cranks VIBRATE . Vstrom is smooth at every rpm

[@donison-xu3qf]

Great vid. Down to earth, no BS. I'm from Wigan but in Wester Canada now and looking for a good all rounder. Think I'm gonna pick up the 650 over the 800 or 1050. Thanks for the input.Keep up the vids, you have a great style..

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks for taking the time to comment :) I've had a few bikes since the 650xt an if it wasn't for the fact the Suzuki has gone right up insurance wise for some reason in the UK (I can insure a 2019 Africa Twin for a third of the cost) I'd probably be looking at another, well worth test riding first as we are all different even dad an I love different things about bikes, he's now having my 300 Rally an I'm either looking at a Norden 901 (might be a huge mistake we ended up rejecting two 390 advs for refunds at 147 and 269 miles so very very unsure on that at the moment t) or an Africa Twin maybe very undecided at the moment as we are moving to Scotland 7 hours from the nearest green Lane and I've not been hugely mad on technical green laning on the peaks anyway, Prefering some Adventure travel stuff an light green laning hopefully finally getting to go to the Nordkapp next year :) thanks again for taking the time to comment. It's pretty crazy how many issues all the current run of bikes have from all the brands. Bet Canada is absolutely amazing! 🖖👌

[@oswold100]

I’m a gsa man I’ve had several and very few probs my current 70 plate has been flawless - after the first turn of the wheel I’m very entertained so basically horses for courses I know you’ll have a great time with the bottom cheers

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Indeed David they are all great bikes just different flavours for all of us :) which was something I really tried to touch on at the end of the video.

[@GULEization]

I will go tomorrow for VStrom if replace the lights with LED and add replace tacho with something more modern. The mechanic is great, the price is good reliability awesome but somehow it is stuck in past with lights and cockpit.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

All valid points Oliver :) I think it would benefit from a cockpit update having said that the display is very easy to read in all lighting conditions. From what I gather on the 1050 with the more modern display the same can't be said all trade offs :) I'm hoping to buy a 300 rally when they are available will be doing a video on why soon to compliment the 650xt.

[@Basil_Brush17]

Thinking of buying one of these. Not ridden one yet but sat on one. It’s a toss up between the xt, BMW 750 gs or versys 650. Nice review. Maybe a test ride will make my mind up.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks MT if you look back at some of my older videos there should be some from when I had an f800gs. I think as a road touring adventure bike the 650xt is brilliant I'd check the insurance out mine was more than a 1200gs. I've let my 650xt go for a 390 adventure but it's a different riding experience :) stuck a video up on them the other day.

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

I just bought one as my winter bike but suspect it may become my favourite ride. It is an antidote to unnecessarily complex expensive bikes which are getting ever more powerful, relatively shorter lived and for many, more unreliable fashion toys. The Vstrom epitomises everything a dependable well designed bike should be. Comfortable, economical, dependable, adequately powerful but ok not quick. Suspension on mine is brilliant as is seating position and hand protection. It’s still heavy, lets be honest. 213kg for a middleweight is not light. It compares well against the larger adv bikes though. The weakness in design is the stator and rectifier/regulator. Mine is a low miles 2006 model. It broke down first ride as the rectifier fried itself. Luckily aftermarket ones are cheap but the Chinese cheapy stators I would guess cannot be relied on for long. Still, other better made alternatives are available way cheaper than oem. Great bikes which will become very sought after.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks for taking the time to reply Paul I'm sure others will find it very useful 👍 I wouldn't hesitate to have another that's for sure as bikes get more complex the Suzuki vstrom 650s are the perfect answer for sure. I've just had to throw a load of money at my 1150gsa after getting screwed over ok it. The Suzukis I had never needed anything outside of normal servicing.

[@squashed_helmet_face7317]

I bought a 70 plate one the other month. I was going to get the 1000 but in reality I thought what is the point. I traded in a BMW F800r which was uncomfortable for me. I cannot honestly fault the vstrom. The engine is an absolute peache.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks for taking the time to reply Richard :) great to hear about your V-Strom Experience. I've found the same with the engine absolutely one of the sweetest going especially the fueling. Out of the 25 motorcycles I've had so far she's in the top 3 the others are Nortons so in good company :) I actually had the f800gs at one point as well. So can understand what you mean with the f800 series.

[@eriklundqvist9032]

Thanks for a great video. I also have a V-strom 650 (2021), and like it a lot. What is the brand / model of the deflector you have on the windscreen?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi Erik thanks for taking the time to comment I actually really miss my 650xt would definitely buy another. It was a Puig screen in light smoke with the optional deflecter they do two versions one with an one without.

[@eriklundqvist9032]

@@adaptableadventurerider Thanks!

[@leifhelgeindrevr3108]

Gretat review! Which windshield on this particular Vstrom? Looks nice!

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi it was Puig one usually my go to brand with my height :) thanks for the reply and hope you enjoy the rest of the channel :)

[@Rmachine429]

Great review! I have a 2018 Vstrom DL650. Have you tried the Tiger 900 GT Pro for a comparison?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Roni I havnt. I just tend to ride what I end up buying rather than test riding dad and I have two new bikes on the way this week which is very exciting as it's one of the few modern bikes brands we've never had so sadly I've let the VStrom go as I couldn't keep both and I got a brilliant price resale to. Gonna really miss it as I really couldn't fault it in any way apart from the weight for what we are planning on doing the next ones are 170kg wet :)

[@Rmachine429]

@@adaptableadventurerider Thanks for the feedback! Which two bikes did you purchase?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@Rmachine429 ktm 390 adv's :) gonna do some videos once we have them hopefully this week.

[@Rmachine429]

@@adaptableadventurerider ok, cool. You need to do a review on the tiger 900 GT Pro.

[@Chris-mn7yy]

what Screen do you have mate? looks ace

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi mate thanks for taking the time to comment it was a Puig one in light smoke usually the first thing I fit if they produce one for any bike ^_^ found they work well for my height it's the one with the optional wind splitter they do ones without as well. Really miss the vstrom 650xt! Could see myself buying another one at some point. Thanks for taking the time to comment an Hope you enjoy the rest of the channel.

[@simonthomas5367]

I almost switched off this review until you listed your bike history and then used the word 'gamut'! Did you try a NC750X? Or even a Ténéré 700? I had a Tracer 700 for a couple of years. Brilliant engine. But I cracked for a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sport. Always loved the looks. But it's big. And heavy. But I love it! And I really appreciated your comment about riding it for a year and then maybe moving on. To something less big. And heavy....!!

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Simon I'm still learning how to do the videos what to cover and mention so always appreciate feedback as they are just for fun when I get chance on the bikes I've bought on my cold hard cash as with anything I've made mistakes along the way but after all the bikes I've had really rate it. I Havnt tried a nc750x yet. A few friends of mine have Africa Twins are really rate them as awesome bikes it's great to see what everyone's using I've still got my fireblade so do like Hondas. I loved the Idea of the Mt series of Yam engines but after the f800gs I didn't fancy another modern parallel twin so decided to try a Vstrom. I'm glad you liked that bit as I really wanted to stress everyone's tastes are different an one bike won't suit everyone I think alot of the paid or sponsored reviews tend to miss that point. In a way its a bit like the Himalayan I know it's an itch I'll want to scratch at some point but hopefully when I do I'll be in a position to retain the Vstrom :) until then it's the Vstrom life for me! It's been a fascinating experience riding the 1927 Norton 16H in the recent videos. 4.9hp and 252 lbs I guess you could say it caused an Epiphany.

[@TrustyZ900]

I was going to sub to the channel, but I realized you sold the DL. I never seen such a positive review about any bike, then you unload it. Well, I had a '17 650, then bought a Z900, then a Z900RS and missed the DL so much, I just picked up a black and blue 650 Adventure. I don't ride Chinese made KTM's.

[@TrustyZ900]

@@adaptableadventurerider I stand corrected about China, although the 890 will be made in Communist China. It does matter where your bike is made. I had 3 Nortons in the past. A lot of fun, but maintenance intensive. Japanese quality stands above all other manufacturers. I've had over 50 bikes, including a KTM 1290 SA and fun as well, but mine was in the shop more than on the road. Ride safe.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@TrustyZ900 just to update this ktms are gone due to issues going to be back on a 650xt or a 1200gs for Iceland 🇮🇸

[@Zbroja69]

Thanks for your video! This windscreen looks good. What is it?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks for the comment it's a Puig touring screen in light smoke with the additional spoiler option that you can get on one version of it worked really well.

[@X9Bull]

Unsure if you mentioned it however do you think the 650 will be fine two up with panniers?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi thanks for the reply, it's such a personal thing I'd suggest test riding for that :) as I can't advise never had a pillion on it when I had it maybe worth checking out somewhere that has the 650 and the 1000. I'm on an 1150gsa at the moment although I'm probably going back to a single soon 👍

[@İkitekerşart]

Good video. I think you have changed the windscreen. It seems nice

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Orhan yep that was a Puig Touring screen really transformed it and stopped the buffeting just fitted the same on my GS.

[@İkitekerşart]

@@adaptableadventurerider have you ever had a chance to try the ktm 890 adv?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@İkitekerşart hi Orhan personally I wouldn't recommend KTM we rejected two 390 Adventures that were brand new this year full off issues at 147 and 269 miles. Ktm were no help but luckily the dealer did the right thing.

[@İkitekerşart]

@@adaptableadventurerider ooooo I am surprised to hear that. What were the issues? I have been checking the all 890 videos from youtybe. Generally users indicate no problems and they are so happy to own a ktm 890. You confused my mind to be honest.

[@İkitekerşart]

@@adaptableadventurerider that means you highly recommend vstrom dl650???

[@SirBuncey]

Glad I found this video, great insight! I'm looking to move from a car to a motorcycle with an A2 license soon. This V Strom 650 ticks all the boxes I've set when looking at a potential first bike. I'd obviously need to get it fitted with a kit to limit at 47BHP. Would you recommend this as a first bike? Or is there a similar bike to this that you would recommend instead? Ta :)

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi thanks for the comment glad it's been of help! I would recommend it with your A2 licence my first bike was a RS125 to a K9 GSXR 600 with a 33bhp Suzuki ecu on it after passing my test we used to have to just wait 2 years before full power. I think the VStrom would be great check the insurance etc though! I think suzuki might do a ecu restriction for them which keeps the fueling spot on worth asking your local Suzuki dealer and its always down to personal preference as to what bike you like 👍 you could always look at Nathan Millward's Dorothy's Speed shop. @nathanthepostman youtube channel. He does a2 license days with some of the other options Himalayan, CRF300 Rally etc. I've had a real range of motorcycles as you will see from some of the other videos on the Channel an the VStrom is In my top 3 bikes the other two are Nortons. People have gone round the world on the V-Strom they do have limitations for off road but from an on road touring and overland perspective they are good to grow with. I've currently got my eyes on the Rally and the Himalayan as a 2nd modern ADV bike but as with any bike they have there compromises and limitations :) hope this helps and any questions feel free to ask. Just remember the throttle goes both ways and always look where you want to go when in corners etc and your body n bike will follow best advice I could give you :) Steph Jeavons is also worth checking out I saw her company on instagram taking some people off road that hadn't ridden a motorbike before :)

[@SirBuncey]

@@adaptableadventurerider I couldn't have hoped for a more helpful response! Thank you very much for giving me all this info to sink myself into.

[@johnnycigarettes3325]

Norton Rider, has your 650 used any oil? My 2022 650 seems to be using a bit of oil. Dropped from the full mark to midway between the lines between the 600 mile service and 1500 miles. Although only 150ml or so seems excessive. Yours used anything?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi mate it hasn't to be honest in about 1500 miles. Got just under 2700 on it now, it might calm down as it gets some miles on it worth having a word with the suzuki dealer just to make them aware. All bikes can use a bit though at first n every one can be a bit different have you got any leaks anywhere on it? Is it smoking exxesivly etc. While it's under warranty I'd certainly mention it.

[@johnnycigarettes3325]

@@adaptableadventurerider Not smoking or leaking. Just got a shock as none of my other vstroms have ever used a drop of oil. Hopefully it will slow down. I have ridden it harder from 600 miles to 1500 miles so will keep an eye on it! Thanks! 😊

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@johnnycigarettes3325 keep me informed mate be good to know how you get on :)

[@johnnycigarettes3325]

@@adaptableadventurerider shall do. Will keep an eye on it!

[@tiagomoreira8742]

Nice vidéo! I'm looking to compare Honda 750x DCT to This One, around same price and for what I need daily. Do you have any expérience With Honda 760x DCT to compare to This One?thanks

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi Tiago I don't unfortunately I only ride the ones after I've bought them :) Can't judge the new ktms yet as we haven't got enough miles on them yet hoping to get mine run in over the next few weeks.

[@tiagomoreira8742]

@@adaptableadventurerider yeah I understand! Need try and see! Thanks again and good Luck !

[@kliderskope3662]

I am trading in my old 2005 GS for a 22 plate 650. I definitely think it will be a good decision. One thing I would like to add to the bike is a sat nav bracket above the dash. For my satnav etc. I know there are some on eBay that fit on the screen fixings but they have very mixed reviews. Anyone here have a cheap as possible suggestion?

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi mate I'm actually on a 1150gsa 2004 at the mo, when i owned a vstrom1000xt a few bikes before the 650xt I had an over the clock givi mounting bracket which went on the screen mountings on that but found it bounced about alot. I soon got used to having it mounted on the bars on the vstrom 650xt :) an have done the same on the 1150, its a shame they didn't fit them with an over the clock substantial bar like the later beemers have an the 300 rally. Good luck with the 650 :) I still miss mine! They are a different thing entirely to the Beemers but great in there own right worth a test ride which id always recommend :)

[@kliderskope3662]

@@adaptableadventurerider thanks. I will bear that in mind. I need to chop in the BMW as I do not fully trust it and I am off to Spain this year riding. The 650 fall right on my budget so that’s my final decider. Especially as I will be with my son on an A2 licence so he can only go 47bhp anyway.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

I totally get that I've been looking at the 650xt again and a few other Japanese advs to sit alongside my 1150 so I've got something I can always count on reliability wise for going to work on an for a trip to Norway :)

[@danilocapellan1316]

Would be nice if it comes military camouflage color.

[@mikerider58]

Yes Cruise control on another model but there's got to be a market for basic bikes with old school electrics. I'd love a really basic v strom with old style head lamp and no traction control, no abs and I'm not a fan of that transformer modern look. If l want extras I'll pay for them. Thank God suzuki still build Japanese Quality.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Totally do agree with this Michael if you check out my two latest videos my why gs video and the part 1 of my why Norton 650ss it's quite polarising just how different both bikes are and have a different place in why I like them and have them both. The main reason I like cruise now is due to a none bike related injury I sustained and on a really long trip it just takes the pressure off a bit. I really do prefer riding the Nortons in a crazy way to anything else for the stripped back nature of the bike it's raw engaging and appealing, I totally agree with what you said about Suzuki and Japanese quality I had recent experience of two ktms which we ended up rejecting at under 300 miles on both bikes which was an eye opener hence going for the GS this game round. Thanks again for taking the time to Comment.

[@mikerider58]

@@adaptableadventurerider yes indeed, cruise control is fantastic but I'm scared of motorcycle companies and car companies not making anymore Raw Basic Models. I loved the old VW cars and vans but now they're all so electronically updated no one can change a headlight bulb anymore 😢 Congratulations on your new Suzuki looks fantastic 👏 great video.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@mikerider58 Thanks Michael she actually made way for a 390 adv that was rejected then a 2018 r1200gs Rallye te the Vstrom Is one bike I regret getting rid off and I very nrsrly got a 2nd one. Thanks for taking the time to comment and I totally agree. Basic bikes need to make a return

[@djspindler5193]

I sold my 650XT after 3 months, it was the most uncomfortable, overweight & underpowered bike I'd ever owned. Gone to a KTM 790 Adventure S now which rectified all those vstrom issues. The only thing in the vstrom favour is the price but you get what you pay for nowadays

[@adaptableadventurerider]

It's interesting DJ isn't it how different bikes suit us all which was something I tried to stress at the end and open a discours on as its great to get others takes like yourself especially riders not in the UK as its cool to see what different preferences everyone has. People really need to test ride ontop of watching KZbin reviews because so many factors can enter in personally after a list of 25 bikes including Superbikes. The 1000xt f800gs and a r1200gsa TE full spec 2014. It's in my top 3 bikes (the other two are Nortons) I guess it all comes down to how and where you ride. I find I don't need the engine speed as I stick within the speed limits so its 71HP is plenty and I also ride a 4.9hp 1927 Norton which makes great progress. Not found the 650 lacking at all compared to the GSA that I sold maybe the loss of cruise as I mentioned but then the fueling is spot on with the 650XT and I find it holds its weight well. Admitidly I've not had a KTM yet so maybe they are better than both the Vstrom and the big Beemers. Power and weight wise though compared to a 1150GSA there's only about 14 Hp diference an the VStrom is lighter than the 1150 by about 42kg dependant on what website you pull specs from. My GSA was a 2014 full spec 1200 TE so quite a big of difference in that HP Wise. The best change I made to the Vstrom was the puig screen absolutely transformed comfort levels from when I rode it back from the dealers down south after the Scotland trip I got home after 600 miles then walked to the shop n had no aches or pains n felt very fresh as though I could do it again. On the other hand the 1000 didn't suit my body shape arm length etc. On paper the VStrom is 71 HP an 62NM 790 Adventure 95HP 88NM So not a huge amount in it Power an weight wise but the torque is quite different with the CC difference which is something people never focus on sure a good exhaust an map would bring the 650 up a bit although there is a difference in CC I've always said when I used to ride superbikes 750 is one of the sweetest CC's. I'm actually considering going down to a single cylinder ADV in addition to the VStrom for some trips I'm planning next. Another factor as you say Is price my gsa cost me 17k cash and lost 6k in the time I had it and was impossible to keep without the extended warranty I owned that for a 3 year period in comparison I picked my Vstrom up 9 months old for 6,200 so for the depreciation on the GSA I could have bought a Vstrom outright ridden it into the ground n still had 11k in the bank. On top of that I'm getting 20mpg more than I saw on the two litre adv bikes at 68mpg worked it out over 450 miles on receipts on part of my Scotland day trip. Servicing wise I can do myself to as the part costs is alot better than the beemer. My other most recent Suzuki I had was a 1981 GSX 750Et which was highly reliable an the new owner has put a load on n my dads 750 hasn't given a ounce of trouble for the 13 years he's had it. I'm very curious to try a KTM at some point but most likely a 690 or the Husky 701. Out of interest what sort of mpg are you getting out of the 790 ? Always interesting to speak to owners in comparison to paid reviews or articles.

[@drewmorg.]

@@adaptableadventurerider I also just love that the Vstrom takes regular 87 octane fuel for some reason. That's the hallmark of an understressed motor with good tuning.

[@kkiwi54]

Those KTMs sound like a great bike but here in New Zealand they're the same price as a V-Strom 1050, so really in a different category to the 650. Also, I see they're the same weight as a V-Strom 650

[@roadwarrior8560]

Great little engine but that model vstrom is so bloody ugly I couldn't have it around, I think the 1050xt looks better and the extra punch is probably worth the extra fuel it would use etc plus it's more expensive to buy in the first place I know. Africa Twin or NT1100 might be worth a try. subbed.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Thanks Road Warrior and thanks for the sub! I actually quite like the looks I do agree though Suzuki could do with updating the looks a bit Is love the over the clock nav bar that the 1050xt has :) I had the 2017 1000xt and prefer the 650 but I'm not tearing around everywhere more mpg for me currently = more riding. I was actually reading about Chris Scott's Africa Twin that was very interesting and why he got rid of it for his trips. It's really tricky finding the right compromise as I think the perfect RTW/Travel overland bike hasn't been made yet. I'd love to see them loose some weight as 216kg still feels pretty heavy in my mind but then it's much lighter than the 1200gsa te 2014 I had and the 1000xt. Really interesting learning everyone else's opinions.

[@philmoreau8082]

Never never buy a euro 5 model in Europa,that version have lost all the qualities of the previous versions,less power,less torque,not any pleasure to drive,cheese on the cake the petrol consumption is as well much higher than the oldest versions,will sell it without any regret,Suzuki is unable to adapt that V2 to euro 5 norms,at reverse of Yamaha with the magic CP2 of the 700 Ténéré...

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Its always good to get others opinions thanks for posting 👍