SVS APP - Complete Tutorial | Controlling SVS Subwoofers

[@jlozano1823]

Helpful vid for newbies to the SVS app. Jump to 9:25 for the app part. The earlier piece talks about the subs display and on-board control panel.

[@M-J-P]

Excellent work boss. This helps new owners of SVS subs like me. And yes, I appreciate your hard work to make this video... that’s not an easy task.. hats off to you..

[@scottgodown569]

I just finished watching this thru a post from SVS on Facebook. Your explanation of things were simple straight forward without a lot of techno babble, easy to understand and made sense. Great video, I have subscribed and look forward to more reviews in the future. 😎

[@Youthman]

Thanks Scott. I have a lot of other SVS videos on the channel. Thanks for the sub!

[@michael-4k4000]

No one does it like Youthman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ronalddecelis1944]

I have just bought dual pb 2000 pro.I want to say that your video about the app is very informative and easy steps how to set i.Thank you very much brother.👍

[@cctampa7473]

Thanks for the easy tutorial on saving presets!

[@Youthman]

Glad you found the video helpful

[@madcrabber1113]

I have 2 PB1000s in my bedroom and have wanted to get 2 of these for our main family/home theater room but am not tech savvy so haven't wanted to go to anything without basic knob controls but your video may have changed my mind. Thank you!

[@habeebzaman]

Thank you so much mate for such a wonderful step-by-step tour of the SVS mobile app.

[@Youthman]

Glad you found it helpful

[@hitechburg]

Youthman When you took your REW measurements did you set the miniDSP on the floor or in the chair you sit in to watch MOVIES and listen to MUSIC?

[@josephayala1090]

Hi Mr. Youthman I really enjoy your very informative videos & blogs. I recently purchased an SVS SB-4K Subwoofer in early Jan. 2023. I absolutely love this sub & I'm very happy with it. Your video on the SVS App has been so helpful to me. My current Audio & Home Theater System consist of: Martin Logan Aries i ESL & Cinema for the front LCR. My surrounds are also Martin Logan ESL's. I recently picked up a pair of SVS Prime Elevation Atmos speakers which I haven't configured yet. For processing I'm using an Anthem AVM-70 8K, Anthem MCA 325 Gen. -2, & a Parasound A52+. I'm hoping to get everything up & running. Please feel free to share your thoughts & advice. Thank you for your help & instructions. 👍🏽

[@dalechalfont112]

Thank you so much for this guide. I took notes as I listened so when my SB4000 arrives next week I can be up and running in 30 mins.

[@Youthman]

Awesome! I’ve heard the PB4000 is an awesome sub.

[@777-Phil]

Excellent tutorial! Thumbs up.

[@Youthman]

Thank you

[@M-J-P]

You go Youthman. This video was mentioned in today’s SVS happy hour. They gave shoutout to you. 👏👏 Keep up the good work for people like me, the novices.

[@43bigsteve]

I looked up this video because of that mention on the happy hour!

[@mikasaur]

Thanks Youthman. I have an SB-4000 but never bothered learning how to use the buttons on the sub itself (always used the app). Thanks for the info!

[@Youthman]

App is a lot more user friendly than the front panel. Super convenient too

[@garymcdonald6692]

Thanks I just bought two of the PB 16s and RF7 3s

[@madcrabber1113]

Awesome!

[@rualanthony6458]

Great video !! Little bit more understanding of the app

[@Youthman]

Thanks!

[@alambe7275]

Hello thank you for your in-depth video covering the app but I do have a question about the low pass filter you said that it’s best to turn the crossover off inside of the subwoofer how do you do that

[@Youthman]

Toggle the Crossover button in the app

[@alambe7275]

@@Youthman OK I understand that but where is the crossover button in the app Thanks again for helping me with this

[@Youthman]

The orange toggle button at 14:28 in the video

[@garretts431]

Is the -10 volume the same as a manual dial of “12 o’clock noon” position for the sub volume?

[@marcusrios8517]

Excellent video! Picked up a pair of SVS PB-1000 PROS a few days ago. This info will help a bunch.

[@Youthman]

Thank you glad you found the video helpful

[@LOUDERthanU]

Fantastic explanation. Many thanks and subscribed

[@billstatler1185]

Wow thank you for the good explanation you went over everything perfectly. My system is an Anthem MRX 710 receiver and then I have the SVS Ultra speakers with ultra Tower Ultra Center and Ultra surround. How I found your video I started looking for an an SVS sub and found what I was looking for in the SB 3000. I had to purchase a new sub because my Martin Logan Dynamo 1000 went bad.

[@MaZEEZaM]

As i'm not physically able to get to the sub to manually turn it on or off. For the sake of my family, I'm unable to use the sub most of the time but still want to use my A/V system so my question is , using the app, could I put the sub into standby mode or switch it off then on again via the app? If this isn't possible with the SVS subs and I'm considering buying the 3000 Micro, do you know any other brands musical but also good for movies sub that has this ability via app control, or can you turn these on or off with the included remote? (Urgh, I see no power on/off for the SVS remote control) Otherwise, could I disable the sub via a receiver/amp though I don't want the sub running all the time whether I'm listening or not as that would be terrible for my electricity bill.

[@octavoplato967]

What are your recommended calibration settings for the sb-4000?

[@tedtanner]

Hi there Youthman. Thanks for the in-depth look at this app. I am considering using this sub to mix professional audio with a pair of powered studio monitors. Do you know if the outputs on this sub send a high pass signal at the same frequency and slope you set for the low pass of the sub? Also, is there a way within the app to switch off the sub and have a full-range signal sent to the main speakers? This is helpful to be able to d when mixing audio with a subwoofer. Thanks!

[@atulnsingh]

Nice simple explanations made it an amazingly helpful content. Kudos 👏🏻

[@Youthman]

Thank you kindly

[@wendellwendellb339]

Hey Michael, how are you? I’ve been looking at the SVS subs. I currently have 2 pair of Klipsch subs in my HT (12” in front, and 10” in the rear) I’m going to replace my living room subs with the 10” Klipsch, than replace them with the 12” Klipsch, than purchase a pair of the SVS 12” PB 1000 Pro to replace the 12” Klipsch. I want an overall better sound! What do you think?

[@Youthman]

Unfortunately I have not reviewed the TV 1000 pro to know how it would compare to your current subwoofers

[@wendellwendellb339]

@@Youthman That’s okay, I still intend on replacing the Klipsch with the SVS, actually just moving the 12” Klipsch to the rear! Had a chat with Channa, and he will be doing a review of the PB 1000 Pro!

[@rovd4433]

You're a great teacher, well appreciated. Being a novice, for now, I've opted to use the default option on the svs app. My main problem is how do I exit the app? My galaxy s8 has a backward arrow to the right and all I have to do is keep tapping this arrow until I finally exit whatever I'm doing. With the svs app, the app takes over my phone backward arrow and instead displays it own arrow pointing downward. Tapping the svs app arrow means I keep going over and over into the app when I only want to shut down the app by exiting after saving my preferences. Again, please how do you exit the app please? BTW my subwoofer is the sb3000 and I'm in London. Thanks in advance bro..

[@Youthman]

I have an iPhone so I’m not sure how you exit the app from an Android device

[@rovd4433]

@@Youthman Ok bro. I understand your point. Thank you for your this quick reply.

[@michael-4k4000]

youth man, can I mix an old ported sub with a sealed sub?

[@amin4006]

Great video. Do you need to move the mic around the room or place it in one position while running REW? Thanks

[@Youthman]

Depends on what you are doing.

[@amin4006]

@@Youthman for exactly what you did in the video. I have dual sb1000 pros and would like to set the parametric eq in the svs app. Thanks.

[@powerinnumbers6159]

when you did EQ in the app, did you not make 40 and 60 overlap , so the boost of 40 was getting reduced bu the 60 setting, looking at the slopes they would almost cancel each other

[@bommareddybrijendrareddy9301]

Is the default-10 level mean 50% of the subwoofer gain volume? I am having difficulty understanding to set 50% gain for calibration. Mine is a AVR-X2700

[@Youthman]

Most subwoofers have a gain knob. With SVS, it’s digital so I would set it to -10dB on the sub and run Audyssey. Audyssey will let you know if the gain needs to be adjusted before running calibration.

[@bommareddybrijendrareddy9301]

Thank you for your prompt response. Actually, ours is a new two week old SVS PB1000 Pro! Complete with acoustically treated theater room having dimensions of 16x12x9 feet! Yesterday, I reran Audyssey, this time with close measurement points near our seating area. Subwoofer position unchanged and is still cornered at the left frontal corner with about 8 inches away from the side wall. Read SVS tutorials from website and our PB1000 Pro sub instructions card. Set -15 on the Subwoofer volume before the Calibration. After completion, the AVR set Subwoofer level at -8.5db. Finally, I set it at -8 (for movies only) on the Subwoofer volume and -6.0db on the AVR Subwoofer trim level. Dynamic EQ is ON, set to reference 0db. Dynamic volume OFF It sounds great and cohesive right off the bat! I would settle for this, unless there's something off that I am not aware about. Also, would choosing 0-98 type volume display cause any changes to the sound, it's just easier for me to comprehend the volume control. Please advise.

[@quinceyvanderwesthuizen2839]

Nice video! When trying to connect my pb 1000 pro subwoofer on the app, I get the following error “subwoofer not in range”

[@Youthman]

I would contact SVS support

[@BenHittingGreens]

Nice job youthman. Can this be used in place of a mindsp 2x4 hd to dial in two subs? Thanks for the awesome content man. Big follower

[@Youthman]

The SVS app provides 3 PEQ adjustments. The miniDSP allows you to time align, has I believe 7 or 9 PEQ so it’s not as powerful as a stand alone miniDSP.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Hey man good to see ya! Awesome app! Always in for ease of use, and convenience! As always great work on the video!

[@Youthman]

Thanks bro. The app is pretty awesome. Klipsch is supposed to be introducing an app with one of their compact subs when they release them so I will be curious how theirs compares. Not too interested in the Compact Subs since they will be 8" and 10" I believe. They mentioned them at CES.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

I have a small room, and have been using compact subs. Two Yamaha YST-SW215 , with 8 inch woofers, I am seriously thinking about going with one SB-16 for a more dynamic theater effect.

[@Youthman]

I remember when I upgraded from my first sub... a Velodyne CT-100 (10" with 100 watt amp) to a Velodyne F-1500 (15" with 250 watt amp). I was like WHOAH!!!! Soooo much more bottom end and tactile feeling. I was hooked on larger subs and have never looked back. Went from the F-1500 to a Velodyne HGS15 (15" with 1250 watt amp), then Dual HGS15's, then sold them after buying a Klipsch RSW-15 and now I have (4) Klipsch RSW-15's. LOL You are going to be literally blown away with the performance of the SB-16 over your Yamaha subs! If you do decide to buy one and use my affiliate link below, I will receive a small commission from SVS which helps me provide more content on this channel. SVS SB-16 Ultra - www.jdoqocy.com/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fsb16-ultra&cjsku=8650180492

[@beastscinema3964]

Great video👍 I could imagine how long it took you to make that one lol😱

[@Youthman]

Exactly 1 week lol. That’s why I didn’t post any videos this week. I ran into major issues with editing the screen recording footage but finally found a work around by converting the video

[@antonioalvin2067]

i love your videos man!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Antonio!

[@frenchflair65]

Does your amp on the svs get warm ?

[@PROF_LIGHT1995]

Love your content youthman. Could you please advise, Are the SVS Ultra towers the best speakers for $2000? As Im about to pull the trigger on them with dual SB-16s

[@Youthman]

Thanks Hugh! I thought I replied to your comment but I'm not seeing it now so I'll reply again. The SVS Ultras are fantastic speakers, especially at the $2000 range. The only other speaker that I have heard in that price range that my ears prefer more than them are the Klipsch RF-7 II. They are also $2000 / pair. The SVS Ultras are a great sounding speaker. As long as you feed them clean power, they sound beautiful, can crank really loud without distortion and have a lot of bottom end, especially with only having dual 8" woofers. I have not done a direct side by side A/B comparison between the two speakers but from what I have heard from the SVS Ultras, I'm pretty sure the RF-7 II have a bit more bottom end, and have a larger sound stage. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either speaker. Of course the best option is to see if you can hear them side by side or at least go and demo them somewhere but that isn't always an option. If you do decide to purchase the Ultras, the RF-7 II or the SB-16's, if you use one of my affiliate links below, I will receive a small commission which helps me continue to provide content on this channel. Thanks for watching! SVS SB-16 Ultra - www.jdoqocy.com/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fsb16-ultra&cjsku=8650180492 SVS Ultra Towers - www.kqzyfj.com/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fultra-tower&cjsku=3281008515 Klipsch RF-7 II - amzn.to/2qeQ0pI

[@Berichar88]

@@Youthman Since all of the volumes are negative, does that imply that if you want the subwoofer volume to be heard as intended, relative to the other frequencies, you should crank the sub volume up to 0 db and then make adjustments down in case you want to lower the bass? In other words, am I losing the bass the makers intended by putting the sub volume slider in the middle?

[@54tristin]

First setting starts at@13:00

[@Youthman]

You’re getting good at this. 😀

[@caddkid67]

Looking forward to the review. Getting ready to pull the trigger on a single SB-16. Envious of your setup. Would love to hear it in person.

[@Youthman]

Thanks George. I spent the entire week shooting, editing and a TON of troubleshooting for this video as the videos from the screen recording kept messing up so I haven't had much time this week to sit down and spend some quality time with them. I should be able to do some more listening this week. So far, I'm REALLY liking what I'm hearing. I love my (4) Klipsch RSW-15's but they are 15 years old. No telling how long the amps will last and I REALLY love the features of the SB-16. They have a ton of slam and dig deeper than my Klipsch subs. They say the PB-16 Ultra has more output but the PB blows too much air and since they will need to go behind my 150" Acoustic Transparent Screen, that wouldn't be a good idea as it would turn my screen into a sail. LOL If you do decide to pick up the SB-16 or PB-16, if you use the links below, I will get a small commission from SVS which helps me continue to provide content on this channel. SVS SB-16 Ultra - www.jdoqocy.com/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fsb16-ultra&cjsku=8650180492 SVS PB-16 Ultra - www.anrdoezrs.net/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fpb16-ultra&cjsku=8651014988

[@caddkid67]

Youthman, when I'm ready which should be soon I will definitely use your link. Do you know if that will eliminate any of the bill of rights? It's a direct link through SVS so I wouldn't think so. My current sub which happens to be my first is a BIC F-12. I was never really a fan of subs and just wanted to get my feet wet. Just a cheap $200 sub. It's decent at 30 Hz and above. But it falls off so fast below 30. I was just watching Thor Ragnarok and it rocks the house. I can only imagine what the SB - 16 would bring to the table.

[@Youthman]

Yes you have the same rights as it takes you directly to SVS website. It just lets SVS know that it came from my affiliate link for tracking. Certainly appreciate it.

[@Youthman]

Wow, I thought my RSW-15 only being able to hit 20Hz was bad. You are about to experience movies in a whole new dimension.

[@caddkid67]

Youthman, I plan on ordering my SB - 16 ultra tonight using your link. Just spent a little over an hour on the phone with Ed Mullen the director of Technology and Customer service. What a great conversation! SVS really does seem like an outstanding company.

[@whymedude88]

Thanks so much for the video as it was definitely one of the best I’ve seen so far explaining the app and it’s functions. I have a couple of questions though, the first being, I have the SVS 3000 non-ported which I just received yesterday and I’ve run the calibration in the room using (calibration- 4) my Yamaha receiver and what I noticed was it didn’t really start to pick up heart pounding bass unless I used my receiver to give me a +3 DB. The second question I have is, related to room size and cubic feet. My room is approximately 20 feet wide by 25 feet long and is an open concept so I’m not entirely sure if the sub is just not pressurizing but it’s in a living room so I’m trying to find a happy balance with cosmetics versus sound I can’t include another sub into the living room it’s too much. Just wondering what your thoughts might be on having a plus DB instead of running it at a negative as I know the app only goes to zero so I’m using my receiver again to boost the sub to +3.

[@Youthman]

You definitely have a large room so a single 12” sealed sub may not be enough. You could also be sitting in a null. Try walking around the room and see if you get better bass response. Either do the sub crawl or use REW and a UMIK-1 to find the optimal sub position in your room

[@whymedude88]

@@Youthman Thank you :) I have been considering upgrading it to the 16 ultra non ported as SVS has said it would do the trick. Your thoughts if any ?

[@Youthman]

100%. The PB16 is a beast.

[@MrMilanina]

I wish there was an option to mute the sub. I am using two micro 3000 and at night I'd like to disable the subs without need to go and physically flip the switch on the back of each sub.

[@steved.1556]

What brands are you considering for a pre-amp-?

[@Youthman]

Currently considering the Denon 4400H. Haven't done a lot of research on it yet. Just see the 6400 and 4400 highly recommended. Would love to hear your suggestions.

[@steved.1556]

I truly have no idea. Seems many are having problems with different brands. I bought a Yamaha RX-A2070 in August of 2017....power section has a short in it, so I'm using it as a pre-amp with power amp being a brand new Parasound A51 with no problems. So, yes, I want a new pre-amp......I am looking....Thanks, Steve

[@Youthman]

I gotcha. I haven’t bought a receiver in probably 4 years. A lot has changed since then.

[@steved.1556]

I don't have much confidence in Yamaha anymore but...have been a musician for many yrs...even played the Grand Ole Opre a couple of times, retired now but country was not my type of music.. I am from Louisiana. Anyway, I always believed in JBL and Crown...have a PA system with JBL system with 20,000 watts on tap but that is for outside with bands. I just don't know what preamp to get for A/V in home ...have been thinking of Marantz 7704...just thinking.......everything is changing so fast......Have older Polks LS90 for left and right...center is CS350 LS ...all rated for 250 watts....rears are f/x 1000 rated for 500 watts....again Polks...just talking, my room is not setup for theatre.....but still sounds good. Oh, sub is SVS pb16 and use Furman surge protectors PL-PLUS DMC. Just curious to see what you come up with for an A/V pre-amp. Thanks Steve

[@Youthman]

The only Yamaha ever owned was a Yamaha RXV-1800. It was a great receiver for movies for a 5.1 set up but once I went to 7.1 set up it ran out of gas. Later I found it’s because when you add seven speakers it drops down to the measly 55 W per channel and it was very underwhelming. I have always liked the sound of Harman Kardon For music with my Klipsch And even tried one for home theater but it was OK and now Harmon does not make Home theater receiver’s. I switched from it to my current Onkyo just because I got an incredible deal on a lot of audio gear and ended up keeping it for free after selling off the things I did not want. It was originally a $2600 flagship receiver. So now I like you I’m trying to figure out what direction I want to go. I definitely have heard great things about my rants and have tried to reach out with him several times but I’m finding a lot of these bigger companies are hard to get in touch with somebody to see about reviewing their product. I’ll reach out to them again and see if I can get one of their pre-pros or receivers to review

[@SuperDave]

Good explanation YM!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Dave

[@rwrjw]

As usual, great stuff. I have a sb16 but haven’t gotten a mic yet to get rid of the peaks and nulls. Maybe in the future you can make a video on how to use rew?

[@Youthman]

Thanks Rob. I don’t have the MiniDSP mic either so I’m in the same boat but do have a friend that will be visiting next month that is familiar with REW.

[@Dukeoden7458]

I’m gonna get a 16 ultra around Black Friday.Im not sure if I’m going PB or SB yet thou.

[@Youthman]

After I review the SB-16, SVS is going to send me a PB-16 to compare directly. I haven't heard them myself but it seems everyone on my channel is asking why I didn't go with the PB since it hits harder and digs deeper. If I like the SB-16 better than my Klipsch RSW-15's, I will buy them and put them behind my 150" Acoustic Transparent screen. The PB-16 blows too much air so I'm afraid if I put a pair of PB-16's behind the screen, my screen would turn into a sail. Haha If you do decide on purchasing either the PB or SB and use one of the links below, I will receive a small commission from SVS which greatly helps me provide more content on this channel. SVS SB-16 Ultra - www.jdoqocy.com/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fsb16-ultra&cjsku=8650180492 SVS PB-16 Ultra - www.anrdoezrs.net/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fpb16-ultra&cjsku=8651014988

[@Dukeoden7458]

Youthman I feel you about the PB blowing air behind your screen.Keep up the good work brotha.

[@Youthman]

Thanks man! I have some more cool toys to review that I will be introducing later this week. :)

[@Youthman]

Sorry, I didn't see where you said you were looking to purchase on Black Friday. You probably can get them cheaper if you wait until then. :)

[@Dukeoden7458]

Youthman After adding that 5.2.2 to my hearth room I’ve got to save up some cheese.I will definitely use your code when I grab it thou.

[@dubnessIII]

My SB1000 won’t connect to app no matter what I do. Any suggestions?

[@Youthman]

I would contact SVS support. They should be able to take care of you

[@Ctripp2448]

Love the vids man. Nice setup. You need to get the Power Sound Audio 3601 sub. Dual sealed 18s. My buddy has a pair and it is ridiculous. He had a pair of the sb16 to compare and it was not even close. He sent the svs back in short order 😁. Svs is a great company and the app is nice but they don’t compete with psa, rythmik and jtr as far as performance for the money. I’m running a hsu vtf 3 mk5 currently and it is amazing. Will be buying another one shortly. Will try to make a video of my home theater in progress. Running klipsch speakers as well. Have u ever messed with rew and minidsp?

[@Youthman]

Thanks bro. I have had a few requests to review the PSA subs so I just sent them an email. I have never heard them myself. In February, I reached out to JTR via email and later via Facebook but did not receive a reply. Not the best customer service for sure. Even if they were not interested, at least reply. I have not worked with REW yet myself. I have a friend coming to visit in a month that is familiar with it. I'm going to get him to show me the basics of it.

[@Ctripp2448]

Youthman surprised about jtr. Tom at psa is awesome. Excellent customer service.

[@Youthman]

Yeah I was surprised too. Sometimes you just have to get the right contact. Emailing support@ may not make it to their marketing guy.

[@johnlira3316]

Thanks for the video but seems too complicated for not that savy people any other Svs sub that a hook up and play???

[@Youthman]

Thanks John. The SB-16 Ultra has a ton of features but you don't have to use those features to sound great. Currently, I ran Audyssey in my receiver and have only adjusted the volume on the subs and they sound fantastic. If you are looking for a traditional sub with normal crossover, volume adjustments on the amp plate, check out these models: SVS PB-2000 - www.kqzyfj.com/click-8757800-12940222?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.svsound.com%2Fproducts%2Fpb-2000&cjsku=3180012611 Klispch R-112SW 12" Subwoofer - amzn.to/2uSXT9X Klipsch R-115SW 15" Subwoofer - amzn.to/2Jr8yfm If you do choose to purchase one of those models and use the links above, I will receive a small commission which helps me provide more content on this channel.

[@johnlira3316]

Thanks for the response

[@Youthman]

Have a great weekend John.

[@m4nc1n1]

^BUMP lol. The app looks polished, but I have had only issues with the BT connection. My workaround was to only have the app installed on 1 device, and if you can, make that device an Apple. If you have it on your phone and tablet you will only have issues connecting

[@Youthman]

I have only had it on my iPhone. While reviewing (4) 3000 Micro subs, there were a few times that not all 4 subs showed on the list.

[@agill2103]

Thank q YouthMan

[@sfh2110]

SVS you have to update your app to allow linking of multiple subwoofers to change settings simultaneously. It's annoying to tune a room with multiple subwoofers changing the settings one by one!

[@kilgoretrout4461]

You likely wouldn’t be putting the same settings on each sub though. You’d want to calibrate them separately so that each was calibrated correctly. You’d have a 99.99% chance they would be different.

[@Spinal101]

What's youthman's contact info? I need to send a request video.

[@Youthman]

My email is listed in the About page on KZbin. I can be reached at [e-mail]

[@54tristin]

Ok we have now wasted 30% of the video on buttons , and how to get an app from the Apple App Store 10:48

[@Youthman]

Your point?

[@michael-4k4000]

Hate NULL's