Swaging .223 Bullets from .22LR Brass with a Blackmon Swaging System - Chapter 1 - Making Jackets

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TATV Canada

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@davidharris9077
@davidharris9077 3 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting and reloading since 1983 and I have never heard of this before. You're never too old to learn.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother.
@constitutionalrepublican1611
@constitutionalrepublican1611 3 жыл бұрын
ive never done it but i did hear about it and have thought about getting into it. very well might. i need to find an importer/exporter first.
@danfabisac
@danfabisac 3 жыл бұрын
I still have some Calhoon .22 that were made 30 years ago. The shoot better than I would have thought.
@Highnz57
@Highnz57 5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Homemade jacketed 223 bullets. Whenever I graduate to casting, this might be the way to go. looks like better quality.
@Mr.Mister001
@Mr.Mister001 4 жыл бұрын
No insult intended; You aren't annealing the brass by much. To anneal it, you need to water quench it as soon as you pull it out of the oven. Brass and copper anneal opposite the way steel does. By letting it cool slowly you aren't annealing the brass by much if any. Might make things easier for you.
@brandonsjsj
@brandonsjsj 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t quench brass when you anneal your neck doing so actually makes it harder slightly then air cool.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 3 жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that the quench is just to speed up the process but isn't necessary. I don't anneal rifle brass but i have annealed a good bit of copper and bronze and never found quenching to be necessary although it is usually what i do so i don't have to wait. Maybe there is a difference and i just never noticed. I know some aluminum bronze alloys actually quench harden.
@brandonsjsj
@brandonsjsj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas12v I think it’s from not staying hot in the case with brass cases. It only take a few seconds at 750f to anneal brass and dropping in water stops the process- so maybe my case is due to the fact I just barely anneal enough and it finishes during cool down but I know if I add water to my process the brass is harder to size and has more spring back.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonsjsj that makes sense. I always thought I'd get into annealing rifle brass for my bolt guns but i never did. I get a few less loadings but I'm already busy enough as it is and I'm not a bench rest shooter. Barely get any shooting done these days anyway lol.
@PrintsCharming13
@PrintsCharming13 3 жыл бұрын
Having worked for a cartridge company where we would make our own brass (10-30k cartridges a day, depending on caliber) I can tell you this is not true. After cold-working operations (different drawing stages), we would anneal the parts in an oven and let them air quench before the next process. It’s the time at elevated temperature that anneals the metal, not the quenching process. I have used quenching in oil or water for hardening or tempering operations for ferrous alloys, but haven’t seen it used in brass annealing. My .02
@jcm4590
@jcm4590 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating subject. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Thanks for the effort.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 7 жыл бұрын
It really is; if you want to see some really fancy pistol rounds, do a search online for 'BT Sniper'. He's a very talented machinist in the US who produces some really innovative tools. I've yet to try any myself, but his offerings will make lead, semi-jacketed or FMJ solid or HP .45ACP rounds from .40S&W brass among other things.
@jcm4590
@jcm4590 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I'll him out.
@chrisedwards9156
@chrisedwards9156 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada that's really cool are machines that make new brass casings made out of like brass sheets for you to produce your own
@beardo52
@beardo52 3 жыл бұрын
Speer used this same process when gilding metal was hard to come by back in the War years. Should work well for you too.
@theeasternfront6436
@theeasternfront6436 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video about swagging. Straight to the point with no fluff. Off to find your other videos.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it useful. I too, get sick and tired of the 10:1 fluff-to-content mix out there, so I appreciate the feedback.
@scratchluka6157
@scratchluka6157 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a bit off topic but I used to have a SAKO .222 and I miss that Rifle! 🥲
@LoadsofBacon
@LoadsofBacon 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the rest of this series. I've never swagged bullets, but I've thought about it several times just recently.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing what you can achieve with it; with one set of dies you can make lead, soft-point, FMJ, or HP. I've used aluminum gas checks to top HP rounds before just for the heck of it. Some folks use airsoft pellets to make ballistic tips... That's to say nothing of the ability to customize your weight or size. Unfortunately it's a very expensive pursuit; but I convinced myself if I bought everything while I was still young it would somehow pay for itself. I guess as long as I live to 150 it should all work out, heh.
@sportysixfifty5040
@sportysixfifty5040 2 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada Corbin tooling out of Oregon was popular in the 90's.
@TheReloadingPress
@TheReloadingPress 7 жыл бұрын
TATV, I am really looking forward to this series. I was just emptying my range pickup bag today and separating out the 22's and thought about when I was going to get around to using them for swedging. Thank you Nathan
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 7 жыл бұрын
You know it's funny; this series has been on my 'To do' list for ages, but I didn't think many people would find it interesting. I'm glad to hear you're getting some use out of it.
@philyamascunt7518
@philyamascunt7518 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada People wouldn't find it interesting? To me this is fascinating and has shown me how to eliminate another "Need" by doing it myself Thank you very much.
@DimaProk
@DimaProk 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for part 2!
@chriss31
@chriss31 3 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments hoping someone had linked it...
@psykoklown874
@psykoklown874 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are far more informative than any I found when looking into swaging. In a FA wet tumble I've found that 1 tablespoon Dawn and 1/4 teaspoon Lemishine works well for the initial cleaning, and for cleaning after annealing, but when cleaning swage lube after derimming I up the Dawn to 1 Tablespoon. They come out shiny. I am surprised that you anneal before derimming. Typically it's the other way around.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense since the dawn is a degreaser basically. As for the annealing order; I've done it both ways. The reason I anneal my brass before derimming is I'm using a fairly small reloading press vs a larger one like an RCBS or a dedicated swaging press. I worry that the linkage may suffer from excessive force, so I tend to err on the side of caution and anneal to soften it up some first and reduce the pressure. If I had a more powerful press I'd definitely anneal afterwards instead.
@psykoklown874
@psykoklown874 6 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying; derimming is the hardest part. From what I've read, and from my die instructions, annealing first can lead to inconsistencies and torn cases, so I've always derimmed first. I'm using a dedicated Lee Classic Cast. I didn't think that a toaster oven would reach annealing temps, and I don't have a self cleaning oven, so I use a dedicated Lee 4-20 pot with a PID set to 1000F. Fill it 1/3 full (about 3 good handfuls) and it takes about 10 minutes after it hits temp. I heard the name Blackmon come up a lot when I was looking into swaging. It seems they're rather coveted by swagers.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
I've torn the bottom out of a few cases before, but we're talking maybe 5 out of a thousand. The toaster oven definitely can anneal the brass to some extent, as I took a few pieces to friend from work who has access to a machine for testing malleability, but I have no doubt that it remains the 'poor mans' annealer. I've heard of the melting pot method but I was frustrated with how few casings I could fit in mine. Maybe I should give the 20lb-er a try with some foil or something over the top to help hold the heat in.
@psykoklown874
@psykoklown874 6 жыл бұрын
That's less bad ones than I expected. I wonder if they stretch and thin out more when run through the die. I removed the pour mechanism (dedicated pot to prevent lead contamination) and use a piece of broken pizza stone that someone threw away on top of my pot. The pot will get hot enough to bake the zinc out of the brass (lesson learned), and that's why I use a PID set to 1000F *pot set on high) with the thermocouple in the center of the pot. Once it hits temperature, I give them a really good stir (I dump them in a metal pan so that I can mix them really well and then pour them back in the pot) and set a timer for 5 minutes. The temp will drop, so I set the timer for 6 minutes. If the mouth squished easily, they're done. The heating element only covers the bottom 1/3rd of the side of the pot, that's why you only fill it 1/3 with brass.
@NecrosAcolyte
@NecrosAcolyte 6 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done, but cooling at room temperature is only a requirement for steel and iron. Brass, gold, copper, silver, and most other metals and alloys can all be cooled with water without screwing with your anneal.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a metallurgist so I can't necessarily explain the science of it, but I can tell you that I've done extensive testing of quenching both pure and alloyed lead and every test I've ever run has indicated it makes a big difference. If you're interested, you can check out some of my lead hardness testing series.
@philmarek3272
@philmarek3272 6 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, I think he was talking about the brass annealing. I came to comment and suggest a water quench as part of your brass annealing. I bet you'll find the results to your liking. :)
@heaanlasai866
@heaanlasai866 6 жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome! Flare launcher 26.5 mm is common on ships, they enable you to have a lot of flares on hand. Lately getting new flares for your legally owned 26.5 mm has become more and more difficult. Please forgive my English, I'm trying to translate terms but I'm uncertain of the correct translation. The 26.5 mm cartridge contains a "torpedo shaped" aluminium header. The header is launched into the air. After X seconds, a separation charge is ignited. From the bottom of the bullet shaped aluminium header, an illumination body is pushed out and attached to the illumination body is a parachute. I have the proper licences for this, previous experience in professional pyrotechnics and high powered rocketry, I can make a reliable separation charge, illumination body and parachute. But swaging the torpedo shaped aluminium header is very challenging. I have almost no experience swaging aluminium with such a wide diameter. Is it even possible to form an aluminium header with swaging dies, or is this reserved for industrial engineers? As you know 26.5 mm have three main types of cartridge. Short, standard (long) and standard (long) rocket assisted. Short cartridges give immediate illumination. They shoot an illumination body like a pyrotechnic comet. Long rocket assisted contain a rocket to lift the illumination body. Long standard have no rocket motor. Instead the illumination body is launched to the right altitude with a single lift charge. This is the most reliable in my experience, but also have a stronger recoil.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting you mention flares; I'm actually developing my own 12G flare shells right now... To your question though, aluminum can be swaged, but it's probably outside the ability of the home machinist. The pure lead I make these bullets with (which is one of the softest metals you can work with) still requires a LOT of force to work with. Aluminum is substantially harder than lead; when coupled with the larger diameters you're describing, I think you'd need a hydraulic press.
@heaanlasai866
@heaanlasai866 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is absolutely in hydraulic press territory. Short version: I'm a student. See me as an enthusiast who has accumulated a wide range of licences over the years. I'm no engineering student, but I'm enthusiastic about that too. Through my student friends I have access to a number of professional grade hydraulic presses, but I will have to design all dies from scratch. The other students are all motor machine engineering students so they know squat about swaging. They use the presses for different purposes. I'm allowed to use their machines as long as my swaging dies are well made, and I bring home baked cookies and micro brew beer. At my dad's garage I have access to a 20 ton press, through friends access to professional strength hydraulic press tools. But no 500 ton industrial press. Can it be done on this scale? Note. Right now I'm just a broke student living off noodles. I won't be making anything until after I've made some money next summer. But I like to plan my projects in advance. Depending on which project pans out, I might design and ground test a large hybrid rocket motor, machine a few swaging dies and see if I can get good results or do some completely different project. I have a friend who now develops specialty ammunition for SAAB. He can design dies which are nothing short of works of art. But out of respect I can't ask for his help with this.
@Thorsaxe777
@Thorsaxe777 7 жыл бұрын
I really like your channel dude. If you don't mind me asking, What did you have to go through to own Handguns in Canada? I know the process is a lengthy one compared to the United States, However, it would make a good video for us here down south. Keep up the good work Buddy. There are others in Canada that want a handgun for personal protection when being isolated in the tundra of the Canadian wilderness. It would be another informative video for the citizens of your Country. Dave.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Thor's Axe777, I really appreciate the feedback. In Canada, handguns are classified as 'Restricted' firearms, which means you need (another) license for them called a Restricted Possession and Acquisition License (RPAL). It's kind of like an upgrade for your existing firearms license. About a year ago I made a video on the process for getting your gun license in Canada, and I've been meaning to make a followup on the Restricted license so maybe I'll quit procrastinating and get that done. In a nutshell you need to already have your Possession and Acquisition License (PAL), then you take a restricted firearms safety course, perform a practical test and a written test. It's usually done over two days (typically on a weekend). Then you mail all that crap in and wait a few months while the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police; sort of like your FBI) do a background check similar to when you get a passport. Heh, yes we do have a lot of folks who'd like to get a carry permit but they're almost unheard of here. You basically need to live in some ultra-remote place where Grizzly Bears are an everyday problem and even then it's an insane process!
@pcbulletempire9872
@pcbulletempire9872 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I can't wait for the next chapter
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I get a kick out of it, glad I'm not the only one.
@richardkut3976
@richardkut3976 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada Жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@25centsapop
@25centsapop 3 жыл бұрын
That bracelet though
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Brought over on the Mayflower by my great grand-pappy lol.
@pimplepickerton
@pimplepickerton 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say that. Dude is rock and roll. I like it.
@carlbuschman
@carlbuschman 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, this is how Joyce Hornady started his business.
@stevestringham1095
@stevestringham1095 3 жыл бұрын
RCBS, Speer, Hornady and all of them did.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevestringham1095 I've never actually researched it, but I seem to recall hearing RCBS was an acronym for Rock Chucker Bullet Swager.
@stevestringham1095
@stevestringham1095 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada that's right. they loaded .250-3000 Savage necked to .22 cal. called it the .22 Rockchucker. i wish i had one of these setups right now. components are impossible to find.
@carlbuschman
@carlbuschman 5 ай бұрын
This is how Joyce Hornaday started, 22 brass to make bullets.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 5 ай бұрын
I did not know that. I guess every company started with one guy.
@OTHumbo
@OTHumbo 6 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point - I like it! Excellent series on swaging, I have a Blackmon press and dies on the way after watching your videos. I've read that most people who use 22LR brass as jackets derim before annealing due to higher success rate and less split cases. Have you tried both ways? Is derimming after annealing the best option with the Blackmon derim die? Ole
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent question! I've done it both ways, and there are advantages/disadvantages to each. The advantage to annealing before de-rimming is if you're using a smaller press and/or don't have a secondary base plate beneath it. When I first began, I was using the press shown but without the steel plate, as a result, it took a tremendous amount of force to process the casings and was actually starting to damage my bench. I switched to annealing them first and that made a big difference in reducing the amount of force (and thus strain on the press and bench); I've just sort of stuck with that method ever since. The downside to annealing before de-rimming is that sometimes the cases 'stick' to the punch, presumably because the metal is softer and more malleable. The solution to this is to make sure you're using enough swage lube as it builds a barrier between the casing and the punch so that they slide off easily. I've only had two casings split in all the time I've been doing this so for me that was never a concern. Now that I have the base plates installed under my press, whether or not I anneal my casings before de-rimming depends more on the weather outside (where I do the annealing) than any real preference.
@OTHumbo
@OTHumbo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your quick and very thorough answer! If I can get away with annealing the brass before de-rimming, that is for sure the route I'm going to take. I'm not too worried about my bench, I have the press mounted on an Inline strong mount that seems to withstand almost anything. I'm in the long run a little bit more worried about my shoulders, I'll take more effortless swaging and a few split cases over sore shoulders and sleepless nights any day. The next step is to figure out an easy and efficient way of applying lube to a whole batch of jackets and cores. I read about a guy who coated a mason jar with anhydrous lanolin and tumbled the jackets inside the jar with a rock tumbler. I already have the rock tumbler and lanolin, so I'm going to give it a go. I will report my results.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
The lube application issue is a legitimate one; as you saw in the videos, I usually do it by hand. That said I've heard of folks spraying/applying some to the inside of a plastic bag and shaking the casings up inside of it similar to what you described. Regarding your shoulders; a lot of people make a longer handle for their press or use a length of pipe over top the existing one to extend it. The extra leverage makes a major difference. I've even seen one gentleman who converted his to run on pneumatics!
@OTHumbo
@OTHumbo 6 жыл бұрын
A great tip to lengthen the handle, we'll see if it's necessary when the press and dies arrive. Brian Thurner, BT Sniper here on YT, sells a pneumatic press for derimming. It also seems like a nice setup.
@rhubarbpie2027
@rhubarbpie2027 3 жыл бұрын
2:55 that bracelet 🤣🤣🤣
@daveayerstdavies
@daveayerstdavies 3 жыл бұрын
I might choose to anneal before cleaning to clean off the oxide.
@notsogreat123
@notsogreat123 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like you guys up there in the cold north land will not be needing these bullets anymore !!
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh... 15,000 .223 casings sitting in a bin right now, $2,000 worth of casting and reloading equipment collecting dust. Thank you Liberal Protectors.
@sgtstedanko7186
@sgtstedanko7186 3 жыл бұрын
You got a lot of flex on that press. Reinforce your bench a bit before you break something. This whole process seems to cost a lot more in components than just buying factory projos.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Swaging isn't really about saving money; it's more of am accuracy/self-sufficiency pursuit.
@jbravovideos
@jbravovideos 3 жыл бұрын
Great video series that lead me to but this set from Larry Blackmon, but have a question: Are you sure it is best to anneal the cases before deriming? In the instruction the anneal after deriming. In my case I got several cases breaking and having the punch go completely through the case leaving it stuck at the base of the punch. Thanks fir a great video series.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to do it that way as I've found it dramatically reduces the amount of force required. That's more of a personal preference though.
@boriscook6817
@boriscook6817 3 жыл бұрын
So part one is 3 years old How long before the rest of them come out?
@vade43113
@vade43113 3 жыл бұрын
they're out, not sure why they aren't linked though. Chapter 2 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ7RaIWdq8p0n9E Chapter 3 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bn23YqafhMSme7M chapter 4 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnvdaJWvr52Epac
@Justindmoon1982
@Justindmoon1982 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard this takes alot of force
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely does. Corbin makes a hydraulic version they can be used for large diameter bullets as well as shotgun slugs. I've heard of people breaking dies even making 223 if their allow was too hard.
@jing1052
@jing1052 Ай бұрын
Wow just seen on KZbin alwsom subject!
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada Ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@waynenelson5221
@waynenelson5221 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to look into this press and the link is not working. Are they no longer available?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know they are.
@sidneyl7059
@sidneyl7059 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering about t he benefit of doing this.. from both a cost perspective and quality of round consistency. After getting all the equipment it seems like your not saving a whole lot of money, but maybe I'm wrong.. Quality of round consistency.. How consistent are they? Match grade?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch the rest of the series your questions are addressed.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping you can answer a question for me... I've seen those penny press machines here in the states that make souvenirs & I know they did away with pennies in Canada.... -Is it possible to use pennies to make "copper" jackets?I'm aware they're no longer real copper, but they're probably the cheapest material that one could easily get their hands on, especially once they inevitably phase out hard currency. At the current rate our money is being devalued, I'm afraid it'll be sooner than later...
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 2 жыл бұрын
If I recall, 'modern' Canadian pennies were copper plated zinc. Could be mistaken but that's always been my understanding. Zinc is harder than copper, brass, or lead so it'd probably be harder on barrel rifling. Not sure where you'd get dies. They could handle the pressure either. Derimming a brass casing (which is already nearly the right shape) takes a fair bit of force. Going from a flat circle to a shaped jacket, even setting aside the fact zinc isn't very malleable, would probably over stress most presses.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada I meant for something like a 9mm jacket, not a .223, and most ppl have a glock, so I don't think they have to worry about shooting out the polygonal rifling. It was just a thought...
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 2 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada where can I get a set of these Blackmon dies and the core mold used here? I have about 5K of each, 22lr and .223 cases, also have about 200lbs of soft sinker lead, I'd love to put it all to good use.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 2 жыл бұрын
@@RichardCranium321 Details are in the descriptions of the video series I believe.
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 3 жыл бұрын
I thought black leather studded bracelets went out of style in the early 80s.
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 3 жыл бұрын
But it didn't. Nancy Pelosi wears them when she eats little babies from central america. You know how those people are.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Bringing the sexy back.
@thekornwulf
@thekornwulf 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I may purchase a .223 simply so I can do this.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 4 жыл бұрын
That makes perfect sense to me!
@brentbyas8357
@brentbyas8357 9 ай бұрын
Where do u get this kit from all i can find online is the Corbin one blackmon is nowhere to be found
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 9 ай бұрын
Please refer to the video description for details.
@demonbright7292
@demonbright7292 2 жыл бұрын
So, how would one use this method for a larger caliber, such as 762 caliber bullets? And would it be better to buy brass tubing or find larger cartridge cases like 556 or 5.7? Also, where would I be able to find dies for something like 762/30 caliber?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 2 жыл бұрын
You'd have to buy custom jacket tubing. I don't have any experience with that stuff.
@demonbright7292
@demonbright7292 2 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada ok, thanks. I know a place where I can source some softer brass alloy tubing. Though I figured I'd ask ya since you have more experience with this kind of stuff than I do.
@jamessouza7065
@jamessouza7065 3 жыл бұрын
That music on this vid??? who is that? Slayer?? lolz
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 3 жыл бұрын
How about copper tubing from the plumbing department of a hardware store? Is it uniform enough to do the job as a jacket?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Probably, but I imagine it would be really expensive.
@RhudaTavares
@RhudaTavares 2 жыл бұрын
I”m from Brazil, but Will Go tô Canadá in a few months, how can o buy these sets ???
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 2 жыл бұрын
Please refer to the video details for information on purchasing. I don't produce them.
@andrewelkington9906
@andrewelkington9906 3 жыл бұрын
Those prices are INSANE
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Small volume runs of high precision gear.
@janw.4873
@janw.4873 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make 69 or 75gr bullets with .22LR Brass ?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it.
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 4 жыл бұрын
How much were the dies, and where did you get them from?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 4 жыл бұрын
I bought them many years ago now and can't recall what I paid. The details on them are in one of the series video descriptions.
@BobBob-il2ku
@BobBob-il2ku 3 жыл бұрын
On part of me is saying this is way to much work just buy them and another is saying buy the equipment to do this immediately
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
The second part is the one you should be listening to.
@ruffieification
@ruffieification 3 жыл бұрын
Any disadvantage to shooting brass jacketed bullets compared to copper jacketed bullets?
@dragonhealer7588
@dragonhealer7588 3 жыл бұрын
No disadvantage
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Not that I've noticed.
@ruffieification
@ruffieification 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada it wasn’t something I was looking to get into but I think I am going to buy the dies and give it a go. Desperate times. Lol
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruffieification If only there was a way to make quality primers on our own...
@thegoodlife2021
@thegoodlife2021 5 жыл бұрын
Can aluminum be swaged in to a bullets and then add a copper or brass jacket? Just curious. I know they would be light but might be a fun experiment.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 5 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt it; at the very least not with consumer-grade equipment. Aluminum is way, way harder than lead, so you'd need something with some serious power. Hydraulic apparatus for sure.
@thegoodlife2021
@thegoodlife2021 5 жыл бұрын
On Mohs scale lead is 1.6 hardness. Aluminum is 2-2.9 hardness. Copper is 3.0. Brass is 3-4. Are these factors of 10 times as hard? If you could get aluminum wire, you could eliminate lead, and avoid the barrel fouling or harshness of the aluminum by adding a jacket. Seems like it would make great cheap plinking ammo.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 5 жыл бұрын
@@thegoodlife2021 The problem as I see it would be that the dies are not designed to handle the additional pressure required to swage aluminum. Even with a metal as soft as lead, there is an incredible amount of force involved. These dies are built like tanks, I can only imagine what the next step up would look like.
@thegoodlife2021
@thegoodlife2021 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! If you ever think you may try it. please let me know!
@estelviomouracustodio5796
@estelviomouracustodio5796 4 жыл бұрын
por favor alguem pode m falar onde compro o kit para isso?
@tomothybahamothy
@tomothybahamothy 5 жыл бұрын
great video thank you!:)
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it; I find the swaging process fascinating.
@klmenschcplchaos2526
@klmenschcplchaos2526 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the press. I have watched your vids a couple of times now. How much per projectile.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 6 жыл бұрын
I'm using the Blackmon Swaging System in this video (press and dies). I could have swore I posted a link in the description but low and behold, nope! I will add one shortly, in the meantime you can use www.bulletswagingsupply.com/ I'm not sure how much it would cost per bullet to make them; the .22LR brass is essentially free, the pure lead I'm not sure of... I bought it so long ago I can't remember for certain, but I think I paid about $0.75/lb. An educated guess: 7000gr in a lb of lead, so at 45gr per core you'd get about 156 cores per lb. At $0.75/156 cores I believe that works out to around half a cent per round.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada I tried to find the dies and press but the link you provided says "please be patient while we build a website". Was wondering if you could help me get started. I have over 200lb of pure clean lead on hand & get it for free. I also have a gallon bucket of spent 22 & collect as much brass as I can carry from my local range so this seems like the perfect setup for me. I don't have reloading experience but I worked in a fab shop, have cad/cam certification, know my way around industrial press dies, good with micrometers + calipers, and I'm fairly knowledgeable when it comes to firearms. Been shooting since I could walk & my grandfather reloaded for decades but I never really got into it outside of shotgun shells as a kid. I regret it now & would like to honor him by carrying on his favorite hobby... thanks for any advice.
@bosweat75
@bosweat75 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the next part to this video?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
In the same channel and playlist.
@iamcondescending
@iamcondescending 4 жыл бұрын
What case would you recommend for .308win rounds? Or 7.62x39mm?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Never swaged anything but .223, wouldn't know where to direct you.
@newmexicojoe5443
@newmexicojoe5443 3 жыл бұрын
If you think background music is necessary when you are talking, CAPTIONING. Enable captioning. Not everyone hears well.
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
It's background music, or background sounds of everything in my house. You decide.
@newmexicojoe5443
@newmexicojoe5443 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada I decided it was annoyingly irritating, and found it made the video not viewer friendly. So I gave it a down vote due to lack of concern by the op who did not know how to adjust narration/background volume levels or enable auto-english captioning for hearing impaired viewers. We are many. Most shooters are. Tinnitus.
@procrastinationdomination645
@procrastinationdomination645 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy that die and punch?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Check description.
@leilu9431
@leilu9431 4 жыл бұрын
Where to buy "Blackmon Swaging System" die set?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 4 жыл бұрын
Details are all in the description.
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 5 жыл бұрын
2:10 That bracelet yo
@Sjackson2369
@Sjackson2369 3 жыл бұрын
I would almost rather do this than cast bullets. It can be done with .40 to make .45 projectiles
@SW-ii5gg
@SW-ii5gg 3 жыл бұрын
I also saw .40 S&W projectiles made from 9mm casings.
@mpsilva90
@mpsilva90 2 жыл бұрын
where can i buy this kit?
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 2 жыл бұрын
Please refer to the video details section.
@drewtramp1577
@drewtramp1577 3 жыл бұрын
Canadian✌
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Represent, eh!
@WillyK51
@WillyK51 3 жыл бұрын
Any one remember Corbin swaging system. With all the bullets awailable, reloaders get lazy
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
I *do* remember them. If I recall his brother also has a swaging business.
@notyou6950
@notyou6950 3 жыл бұрын
I got their hardware. They went their separate ways. This was confusing 4 me at the time till I asked someone about it. I still need some more tools.
@timcanterbury9738
@timcanterbury9738 3 жыл бұрын
RCBS.
@redneckpyromania6965
@redneckpyromania6965 3 жыл бұрын
Now canadians can't have AR-15S :(
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Oh we can have them, we just can't buy them, sell them, trade them, transport them, or use them. Thanks, Liberals.
@redneckpyromania6965
@redneckpyromania6965 3 жыл бұрын
@@TATVCanada man thats some bullshit joe is coming for ours and he's gonna find out real quick that we aren't gonna give up our right that easy
@joepoaletta8237
@joepoaletta8237 3 жыл бұрын
liberals brought me here
@TATVCanada
@TATVCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Amen brother.
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