SWAM Saxophones In Action

[@lundsweden]

This is like the next evolution if the virtual acoustic technology in the Yamaha VL1 and VL70m. Yamaha then dropped the tech for the last twenty years unfortunately, now we have this great, improved virtual instrument tech available for our computers and iPads.

[@vincentpaula3184]

THIS level of sound design is WAY more impressive to me than most digital synths.

[@rossminet]

It's like Moddart's pianoteq for the pianos and keyboard instruments. Physical modeling can sound much more convincing than sampling. The controller side seems a bit invlved. I'll keep on playing real saxes and trumpet.

[@elifarmer3815]

Yamaha's montage synths are pretty close to this IMO, also Roland Fantom. Just a different area of focus I think

[@knavar6314]

As a sax player hats off to you gentlemen, this is the closest a vst has gotten to the real thing. Close to the secret sauce, but not quite! 😉

[@spitfire31f11]

This range of SWAM videos by Stefano and Doctor Mix is among the most effective instrument demos I've ever seen & listened to. The spontaneous joy they exude (even if the setting is of course arranged) is very infectious and enjoyable. Well done indeed!

[@q.8965]

Being able to control vibrato more naturally with my breath has me SOLD

[@stevesolitaire5013]

PERFECT !!!!!

[@Ponk_80]

I love what this company is creating, they are top of the shelf material.

[@eeshdsgn]

wow, that moment 2:18 I am blown away

[@ashitanojoe69]

It's truely amazing!!!!

[@raindogred]

omg so it is possible to get a growling blues sax solo with virtual instrument..I'm so getting this

[@yoshitsuguisobe6284]

PCM sound source? Or are you creating it from scratch? It looks just like the real thing!

[@AudioModeling]

physical modeling it's a synthesis that recreates the sound from maths based on the real instruments physical laws. No samples.

[@DrDaab]

Amazing, I had no idea that with the keyboard so much more is possible than with any wind controller. Of course I knew you could control lots more parameters, but this goes way beyond that.

[@AudioModeling]

Hi Dan!! Stefano is the master of expression pedal :-) Indeed, you can control SWAM with any expressive controller, even MPE (like the Seaboard or LinnStrument). For example, there are a few videos on the Internet of people playing with Leap Motion or Breath Controller, combined with a keyboard. Our instruments are really flexible and they can adapt smoothly to the player's needs.

[@45zapatero]

I think with the new Aerophone ae 30 you should get spectacular results also !

[@aleksamrkela831]

It's Claudio from Doctor Mix!

[@erikm9540]

Sounds beautiful.

[@denysquinteromusica]

Thanks for the video! Excellent product, it is admirable to know what they have achieved with their technology, congratulations to the developer ... the best! I like it! sincerely!

[@EliCohenMisterMedia]

WOW It sound super!!!

[@h.tahoori]

This is the end of Musicianship! Anything than can be translated to math, could be executed by machine. A true game changer. I should hate it as a Guitarist but it's reality and excellence so Thank you Mr. Lucato.

[@meldavis7183]

Sounds good on a keyboard but would an ewi have the same control. Would like to see an ewi demo.

[@AudioModeling]

Hi Mel! There are many on the Internet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haDGkqmAm7OcrJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZi8g4yuiJV8eNE kzbin.info/www/bejne/hF7SdaqYgNJprq8 Just search for "SWAM EWI"

[@GeoffBob77]

Brilliant technology!! How soon till you release a SWAM engine for trumpets and trombones please?

[@BasiProVST12Tonalita]

Orgoglio italiano!!!!! Bravi ragazzi, siete i migliori...Stefano ha anche la maglia azzurra...

[@campar1043]

Can this made poly so you can play multiple notes at the same time?

[@AudioModeling]

Nope. These are SOLO instruments, they model a single instrument with his/her player. If you want to play multiple solo instruments polyphonically, look at Divisimate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJizmKx3nZ2Keac divisimate.com

[@campar1043]

@@AudioModeling thank you

[@MalcolmRobbins]

How would this be with the Aerophone AE30 pro ?

[@AudioModeling]

We do not have a demo with the AE30 yet, but you can have an idea with the AE10: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKSxY5WslL-hn5I

[@MalcolmRobbins]

@@AudioModeling very good I am waiting on my AE30 to come hopefully in April I use IPad Pro and Mac will check out your stuff then

[@TejRapProductions]

Might be a silly question, but is this product a combination of a DAW vst and an expression pedal? If I already have an akai mpk midi keyboard and I run FL studio DAW will it all be compatible? I've dreamed of having something like this!

[@AudioModeling]

This is a collection of VST plugins. The setup you own works already. The best result is with an expression pedal or breath controller. If you don’t have one or the other, I suggest to purchase it. Otherwise, you can use the knobs on the AKAI mpk

[@TejRapProductions]

@@AudioModeling awesome! And thanks for the quick reply 🙏

[@DavobarX]

This is incredible, I'm on the verge of bankrupting myself for the month because I need this right now. One question though, I'm nowhere near this level of real-time control. Can the growl, expression, vibrato etc be automated after recording the performance in my DAW?

[@AudioModeling]

Hi DavonbarX, thanks for your enthusiastic appreciation! Of course, any parameter can be automated from any DAW, using either Automations or MIDI envelopes/curves on a Piano Roll.

[@DavobarX]

@@AudioModeling Molto grazie :) Will be grabbing this soon as possible..

[@sylvainpaquette6485]

What's the best to use to get the same results ?? this keyboard?? a breath controller or a seaboard??

[@AudioModeling]

Sylvain Paquette it really depends on your playing style and on your level of control. The keyboard used here is a standard keyboard controller (indeed is a synth, but here they are just using it as MIDI controller). When playing with a standard keyboard, you need a good Expression pedal (plus ModWheel and PitchBend). Breath Controller it’s really good for playing wind instruments, but also for bowed strings if breathing properly. Seabord is really good but takes a steep learning curve on how to control it, especially for legato transitions. Search “Seaboard SWAM” or “Breath Controller SWAM” on KZbin to find videos about the combinations of SWAM with those controllers

[@sylvainpaquette6485]

​@@AudioModeling Thanks for your explanation. i'm guessing that my m-audio axiom 64 can make good results as long as connected with an expression pedal and a breath controller attached to it??

[@AudioModeling]

@@sylvainpaquette6485 exactly! If you use a standard MIDI keyboard, you absolutely need an expression pedal, or breath controller, or Leap Motion, or any expressive controller that can satisfy your way to play. Note that, except for the expression pedal, you cannot attach those controllers to your keyboard, you have to connect them to your computer and combine the MIDI events coming from both the keyboard and the expressive controller (i.e. selecting both as MIDI sources)

[@sylvainpaquette6485]

​@@AudioModeling Thanks! okay the expression pedal is attached to the keyboard but the breath controller is attached to the computer via USB.is that it??

[@AudioModeling]

Sylvain Paquette yes, breath controller is connected to the USB port of the computer. MIDI messagges coming from both the keyboard and the breath controller are routed to the plugin

[@moviekidtechlife]

What is the breath controller in this video

[@AudioModeling]

MovieKid Techlife it’s the “USB Breath and Bite Controller 2” by TEControl: www.tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-bite-controller-2

[@patzicari3604]

This Swam Tenor is close… but, still no Cigar… When I first played and sampled with a Synclavier in the ol’ days… tried to sample my sax… (also tried Fairlight)… Even with those, most of the time sounded like a kazoo or a Hoover Vacumn… and that was with Multi-sampling on every note…You might get a few notes to sound correct, but when you stretch the sample you'd lose (or add) overtones that aren’t on the real instrument. You would have to sample each note… individually… at least 10 to 15 times (with different attacks, harmonics, growl, hard tongue, soft tongue …etc.) THEN have the ability to play the variances… Which IS possible with a WX, EWI, etc. with the proper controller settings… However, until someone comes up with a realistic-sounding (REALLY sounds like a sax… up and down the horn, from Top to Bottom note… we sax players are safe… at least Solo saxes… This Swam is great… mixed within a section… however is still lacks the true sax sound of a solo horn.

[@meldavis7183]

On another wind instrument I found the the nasal frequency that screws up TENOR sax. Normally that frequency is between 800 to 1500 hz. I think swam probably is around that. If there's an eq control I'd set a narrow band eq boost & sweep across the frequencies until you find the nasal frequency then cut at frequency. Roland aerophone ae10 has that eq feature. Still I like the swam approach to the saxophones.

[@kingslaphappy1533]

I respectfully disagree. To my ears (I play alto sax) it’s the closest i have heard to the real thing and adding realism to the part played lies in the skill of the player/programmer laying down the track. Also, using an MPE controller and modulating several parameters in real time really helps to render a “mostly” realistic sax part especially when blended with other instruments.

[@patzicari3604]

@@kingslaphappy1533 I partially AGREE with you... my last line was, "This Swam is great… mixed within a section… however it still lacks the true sax sound of a solo horn." In a sax section or with other horns, to most ears, these “pass” but, as SOLO instruments, close but no cigar... the multitudes of timbres and variances of EACH note, and the hundreds of way it can be attacked and tongued, really can not be duplicated with either a wind driver OR breath controller... FYI... am not talking just off the top of my head... I've been programming synths and sequencing since the '70s... played Nyle's first EWI (before he sold it to Akai)... Lyricon (with Bernardi)... Synclavier, Moog, Arps, etc., and been Writing, Engineering, and Programming for recordings, TV, and Movies since the '70s... My first sax recording session was in the '60s... and you've heard me on quite a few hits... I created a Horn Section sample... and had to use it on a Melrose Place session (the other horns were hung up in another session). When they heard the section, they asked the Contractor who did it... he pointed to my rack and said I did... They said if I EVER sold it to anyone, they would "take care of me"... kiddingly, I think..
 In a SECTION… FINE As a SOLO instrument… NOT... in the opinion of an Engineer, Producer, Sax Player

[@saulsn3362]

Sounds nice.

[@JosenelsonLinianrodriguez]

Bari sax 🎷🎷🎷🎷

[@SkyMaloba9599]

Contacted great saxophone players here in KZbin, they answer; "Hi here is my rate, I'm available to play in your track" then they disappear. You text them and they don't answer anymore. Now I don't need them anymore. Bey bey saxophonist...

[@bilnabiln]

my mind is blown, this is amazing! will this work with the Ableton Push 2? I’m guessing I would need an expression pedal to go along with it?

[@AudioModeling]

Hi binabiln! Thanks! It works with Ableton Push 2, like with any other MIDI controller. On Push 2 you can eventually use one of the knobs to control Expression, anyway that hand is no more available for playing. An expression pedal or breath controller leave both hand available for playing

[@soundgarden1123]

Can you please demo a Shakuhachi with this and the Bawu flute ?

[@AudioModeling]

Hi Jonathan! SWAM Flutes models are mainly for Western flutes. It's possible to vaguely imitate a Shakuhachi acting on some parameters and using the controllers in the right way. Bawu flute is different because it includes a reed, so the model of the excitation is quite different. Someone tweaked the Bass Flute to imitate a Bansuri flute: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoCsnHV6oL59e7M

[@nicholausjayageeth2822]

Love it

[@highlandersliveband7226]

how to use food paddle modal ?

[@AudioModeling]

Expression is assigned by default to MIDI CC11, which it is usually sent by a foot pedal connected to a MIDI keyboard controller. Usually there is no additional configuration to do. If your foot pedal sends events on a different MIDI CC number, go to Options / MIDI mappinf, press Learn and move the foot pedal: the correct MIDI CC will be assigned automatically

[@highlandersliveband7226]

@@AudioModeling Thank you 👍

[@MatsMorlund]

WoW‼️

[@RoKneMusic]

Hi what mouth controller is that?

[@AudioModeling]

TEControl BBC2 USB

[@RoKneMusic]

Thank you, can it work with a Roli Seaboard Rise 2?

[@AudioModeling]

@@RoKneMusic only if you set the Seaboard to single channel mode, aince the Breath Controller is not a multi-channel device

[@giri.goyo_yt]

For ios yet? Please....

[@AudioModeling]

SWAM Solo Woodwinds, including Saxophones, are planned to be released in Summer 2021. In the meanwhile you may want to check SWAM GeoTenorSax available in GeoShred as In-App Purchase

[@giri.goyo_yt]

@@AudioModeling Thanks! I have GeoShred. Good stuff.

[@simonpetersog]

@@giri.goyo_yt hey did you buy swam sax?

[@giri.goyo_yt]

@@simonpetersog I did for Geoshred. I can't wait for a stand alone!

[@MohammedElSanousi]

It doesn’t sound like this when i am using it not sure why

[@AudioModeling]

Mohammed El Sanousi follow Stefano hints and playing style. You need to “think” as a saxophonist does

[@Leomerya12]

...but we can't play chords?

[@AudioModeling]

These are SOLO instruments. A real saxophone doesn’t play chords alone. If you need sections, you can use Divisimate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJizmKx3nZ2Keac

[@tperry5839]

Sounds almost

[@LittleRichard1988]

All these people pointing out the elephant in the room are completely missing the point. Midi is not trying to make real musical instruments obsolete or put session musicians and bands out of buisness. For live events or playing in a Jazz band they will always want a saxophonist but let hobbyists settle for doing everything inside the box with midi.

[@radiouaau5629]

Uaaaaau

[@michaelhaack3298]

I am a saxophonist, and ... Sorry no, still far

[@LittleRichard1988]

Don't worry there will always be jazz bands who want to hire saxophonists. But for hobbyists it's cheaper to do everything in the box, I also personally like the fact midi instruments sound digitized. I just accept a midi saxophone is going to sound synthetic no matter what, even Halion's saxophones still cut it.

[@JudeMaddenSongs]

or you could get a saxophonist to play it properly.

[@AudioModeling]

We do not want to replace real musicians, we just offer the chance to "MIDI musicians" to expand their expressivity

[@erikm9540]

Are saxophonists better at playing keyboards than trained pianists? Your comment doesn't make sense.

[@JudeMaddenSongs]

@@erikm9540 what a crass remark I do not have the time or the crayons to explain it to you. Have a nice day...

[@cedurick]

typical "robots coming for my job" response...

[@NUKELEDGE]

​@@JudeMaddenSongs Yeah because Saxophonists are cheap and can be called whenever you want 24/7 and can change the tone of their instrument and rework the structure of the song while you tweak it instead of having to write sheet music. Elitism gets you nowhere in the music world besides a posh, tea-sipping, echo chamber environment where people who can't play every instrument isn't a "real" musician.