3 Reasons NOT To Buy A KLR650!

[@benblanco194]

3 reasons not to buy a klr650..... 1) Im too short. 2) I'm too weak. 3) I'm not a good rider.

[@TitanFlare]

Both 1 & 2 are actually #3. I've seen 5'3 females ride ultra classics like horses. Technique and skill is everything always

[@rockinghamlab634]

He needs a 250 ninja and 150 KLX ?

[@strongdelusion9442]

Don't forget "I'm a pussy" Mama's boy!

[@yoyohooyo]

I'm 72 y/o and 5' 11" Where can I find elevator MC boots with cold fish in them

[@strongdelusion9442]

@Justin Sane LOL

[@davidme497]

My wife is 5'8" And she has no problems on both our 04 and 08 She just completed 1000 mile run from San Francisco to Los Angeles and back We had an awesome time

[@SwankyCatProductions]

That's awesome!

[@DavidS-iw4ei]

Hello David, I ride from Temecula to San Fran. I'll take Hwy 5 or 101 or the 1. What route to you take?

[@MotorcycleMouse]

david me you’re not allowed to have an awesome time in California without being taxed lol

[@My17A]

Love my 2017. I don't off road at all with it. Strictly a touring bike for me. I find it very comfortable, 400+ kms per tank, plenty of power for all roads and very reliable and simple, easy to maintain. Can't beat a KLR. Rode mine from Eastern Ontario out to the Miramachi New Brunswick via eastern US States last summer and was the perfect bike for that trip.

[@chickenfriedbobcat6090]

My17A You have my sympathy friend. Not taking a klr off road is like never taking a chocolate bar out of it's wrapper.

[@dougiequick1]

IMHO you would be much better served with like a 650Vstrom ...there just is little point to a big single if you stay on pavement....you could even go smaller engine and equal hp of klr....I dare say a well made 300- 400cc twin would outperform a klr on the highway in practically every way ...just saying

[@SuperDriver379]

You can swap sprockets on one of these bikes super cheap and cruise at 80mph all day.

[@billadmond9450]

@@SuperDriver379 In my country the max speed often is 62 miles/h and rarely (very rarely) 68 miles/h so the stock bike is just perfect for highway.

[@AlanTrades]

Now do one for a hundred reasons to have one

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Ha ha i think that might be coming up on my to do list.

[@icantthinkofaname4682]

Lol

[@lunantix]

Get a suzuki dr650

[@AlanTrades]

@@lunantix I enjoy fuel injection too much

[@kipschwinger]

@@AlanTradesand a wide seat. And a 6 gallon tank.

[@RobKwalheim]

I love my '09 KLR. Bought out of the crate new in early '11. Blow out price was $4900.00 CDN. Bunch of farkle material most importantly a center stand. My issue, like you said, was the seat height. What to do? I am a short 5' 7.5" with a 30" inseam. Could have gone for lowering dogs, new seat, triple soled boots. Looked at my seat and decided to try modifying it as a cheap experiment/alternative. Snuck into my wife's cutlery drawing and stole her electric carving knife for a couple of hours. Removed the seat cover and carved off about 1.25" along the entire top side of the foam. Was still left with a hefty amount of foam but it became about a half inch wider all along (not a bad thing actually). Sanded the foam smooth and re-stapled the cover back on. This was 6 years 44,000 kms ago. I can now tippy-toe both feet in sneakers (please don't ride in sneakers) and flat foot in my enduro boots. As far as comfort I noticed no difference on my ass but feel much more in control. My wife got her electric carving knife back none the wiser although the turkey tasted a little plasticy the following Thanksgiving - small sacrifice.

[@freedomisntfree131]

If there's one thing I 1 thing I've learned after being married long enough to raise 3 boys, Never tell her anything. "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission." We're men, we don't need permission. Good luck, fellow short guy.

[@active6302]

excellent solution!

[@karbide3084]

7 min vid to say you're too short for the bike. Not being perfect on highway-trails while having the capability to do both really well is the intended purpose of the KLR.

[@WeAreNotSheep2023]

lol! He is

[@MotoAtheist]

Reviews done by people who can afford any bike they want are useless! If somebody is comparing a $6000 bike and $15,000 bike.... well, just STFU, right? For me, I'd rather buy a $6,000 KLR for what it is and get a separate $6,000 bike that handles what the KLR isn't and I'm still ahead of the $15,000 dollar bike and I have two bikes.

[@marcosedward1716]

@@MotoAtheist yeah, I'm with you. I mean I may be able to to finance a 15k bike but why when I can cash buy one that does the same thing. Not saying I wouldn't want a African twin or GS1200.

[@Hansengineering]

@@MotoAtheist new to motorcycles, not at all new to two-wheels. Why would I buy one compromised bicycle instead of having like, nine specialized bicycles?!

[@simontempler3239]

Super cheap bike...great range...wind protection...enough power for highway speeds...very easy to fix and work on.....can go everywhere a GS, KTM, Tiger Africa Twin, Tenere . ....etc etc can...Whats not to like?

[@dougiequick1]

Can NOT go long distance with anything like the comfort of the bikes you mention ....and hey if it gets miserable in the saddle after a couple hours? Is THAT fun??? No....NO it is not ....

[@davehughes6151]

When ever I get to ride no matter how long it's the best time of my life .

[@MuppetVT]

simon templer not to mention FortNine pulled a Top Gear torture test on one and as we all thought it would be dead, somebody ride up on the bike behind the presenter and it ran just fine

[@jamessmaby8758]

You forgot , the part's are everywhere used or new !

[@piratekingthaszar7912]

@@dougiequick1 comfortable? Definitely no, but why spend the 20,000 for a GS when I can spend $5000 for a KLR that performs the same function with less comfort?

[@teatowel11]

I’m 6 foot and the height is great for me. I’d love if it was lighter but there are not many bikes that are long distance ready that are lighter. 6th gear would be awesome. It’s a budget bike, maybe the new ktm 790 adventure or tenere 700 will be way better but they will also be 3-4 times as costly. I like having a cheap bike I’m not afraid to put scratches on or do my own maintenance.

[@darryldriver6438]

2019 KLR camo = just hit 500 mi. 5'10 185lbs and 56 i truly love this bike, I chase cattle down the Texas trails all day long. excellent suspension and still quiet enough to take hunting

[@michaeljoesmith3977]

I had an 08 second generation KLR. Loved it . Had Pelican Case on tail end. 300 miles on a fill up. Comfortable enough. But rear tires never lasted very long compared with the front tire. Still a great all rounder.

[@MrMinathecat]

I had a 1990 KLR that I put over 100k miles on. At the time I bought it, my intent was to ride around the country (from New England) on mainly secondary roads and dirt roads...and to use as a commuter bike when I wasn't traveling. My chief complaints were 1) No good in the dirt. Too heavy. Geometry was all wrong. 2) Gearbox. 1st gear wasn't low enough for dirt riding. Needed a 'granny' gear. And a 6th gear. 3) Brakes were lousy; too spongy, not enough stopping power. But all things considered, it was almost the right bike, the only other legitimate candidates at the time were the BMW GS (too expensive and big), Yamaha XT (too much dirt and not enough road), Honda XR (same issues). What I should have bought was the Honda Transalp, a 600cc v-twin, which was in the process of being discontinued, I believe. I did manage to keep the thing running for over 100k miles. Moral of the story: You can't have everything in one bike. Maybe I'll get something completely different....like a Ural.

[@GPM116]

Yeah it is a big boy bike and you need to start pumping iron at the gym these things are heavy ...but I get along real nice with it. 70mph hiway is about top end but I did not buy a off road bike to spend half the ride on pavement ...it grunts up some big tall hills real well...it is a beastly bike. 2008 EZ to maintain and got it used with 3k for $3500 bagged it armoured it and away I go.

[@JamesFloorSander]

I went from gsxr to klr and was best purchase for me. I enjoy it much more. Plus it's hard to go to jail because you're breaking speed limits. Thing I wish is 6th gear.

[@SuperDriver379]

James Giant Floor Sander check out the videos on 16/43 and 16/40 sprocket swaps, makes all the difference on the highway.

[@dbsavage001]

I also just bought a 2018 and absolutely love it. I'm 6' and feel right at home. No buyers remorse here.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Nice!

[@jaspertaylor7455]

I LOVE MY KAWASAKI KLR650, 1993. THE height, weight or speed is not a problem for ME. I'M JUST ENJOYING THIS MOTORCYCLE and looking forward to enjoying my RIDE...THANK YOU KINDLY for your help and support...

[@timbumgarner1207]

I had a KLR in the past, had a GSA, Harley Davidson, just bought a 2019. KLR has been my favorite.

[@SteveWKk]

That says a lot!!

[@markhopes4924]

Hi, g’day from Australia. I’m so glad I didn’t watch this before I bought my klr650. I am 5’7 and 100kgs(205lbs). Yes I know that’s short and fat. Haha.i should mention I have over 30 years experience enduro riding. I bought mine new over a year ago and first thing I did was install the lowering kit. However 3 weeks ago I lifted the suspension back to factory height. I’ve done so many mods making it my own and I began to think I probably should have just bought a Ktm or bmw. I’ve done 12500kms on it mostly adv trips. Last trip I did I swapped bikes with a tenere700, and Ktm 790. Just for the fun of it. Both times I couldn’t wait to get back to my klr. The only benefit was from the Ktm and that was a lot of fun with more power. The tenere 700 owner was amazed how my klr handled and how much power it had.(full cogent suspension upgrade and 42mm mikuni carb and with quite a few other mods) drags off tenere quite easily. But even with all the mods I’m still $5000.00AU cheaper than the tenere new and 10500.00Au cheaper than the Ktm 790. If you can’t touch both your feet on the ground on the klr I suggest you just get over it..or buy a Harley soft tail. For every fault I found with the KLR there was already half a dozen available upgrades on the internet to fix them. On one ride 3 of us on different water crossings swamped our bikes with a fall on large submerged rocks, mine was the only one of them to finish the ride. Both others(Husqvarna and Ktm) had to be transported back due to their computers and wiring getting wet. My klr just needed to pull the plug and drain carb.. all good.. Never been happier with a bike.. and I own a few..

[@SwankyCatProductions]

The KLR can't really be beat for the money, that's for sure.

[@volgerrie]

Use to commute to school with my dads 2010 KLR 650 back in 2014 when I was 17. Was really fun.

[@davidkisler687]

If you could have any Dual Sport bike what would you buy ? I looked at a lot of bikes and found that the KLR650 is perfect for me. I am 6’1 225 and 57 years old and I like the gas mileage and the all around fit of the KLR.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

It is a nice comfy bike thats for sure! Ahhh I guess I don't really know to be honest. I would really like a Husky or KTM but most of them are pretty tall and I'm not a fan of that, even with a light bike. I would say the new Honda CRF 250 Rally.

[@DavidS-iw4ei]

Dual Sport, Rally and Adventure are all different bikes. i.e. Dual Sport = DRZ400 or XR650L Rally = Africa Twin or the CRF450 Rally Adventure = Yamaha ST or BMW GS line

[@joshtimmons7332]

I'm pretty much the same size as you. How did you find it fits your height

[@andregillard2806]

Can't go wrong with a KLR.

[@DavidS-iw4ei]

I'm 5'-10" 180lbs I bought a new 2013 KLR650 to learn on. I liked the bike until I got up to 80 MPH. I did well off road and on road with the KLR650. I paid around $6,700 plus tax and dealer fees. I sold it in 2017 for $4,000. In 2017 I bought a BMW R1200GSA. I wanted to break the 80 MPH limit. I contribute the 21" front wheel to the 80 MPH limit. The KLR became unstable. I never dropped the KLR do too being short. I did drop the KLR off road as well as the R1200GSA. That's the nature of offroad. My best advice is to do your research before you buy. I did. Learn on a cheap bike then found what your looking for. Seat Height - Weight KLR650 35" - 431 lbs DRZ400 35"-36.8 - 317 - 322 lbs BMW R1200GSA 31"-35.2" - 573 lbs Versys 650ABS 33.1" - 476 lbs

[@hopsgarage5513]

Klr is a tractor... and reliable

[@krisdrummond3650]

Just bought a 2018 I'm about 6'1 I've read about people having issues with the hight but so far it's about perfect for me. Loving it so far, does exactly what I need it to do. We'll see how it serves me in the future, but no complaints as yet.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Kris, glad to hear your enjoying it! I would guess at 6'1" it would be about perfect for you, I would certainly be more confident on mine if the ground wasn't so far away haha.

[@krisdrummond3650]

Looking forward to modifying the crap out of it.. I'll chucking my bow on the back, a swag and doing alot of camping.. I'm in Australia 😉!

[@GerhardCombrink]

Also, 6.1 and found it very low, but that’s probably my weight on the soft rear spring. I don’t think you’re too short, just too light. Tank size is good but it’s heavy on fuel, thus range is only ok. Also, it overheats on a hot weather slow commutes and overtaking at 120km/h is hairy unless you have plenty of time. I love the looks of it though and it’s a bargain bike for its capabilities. I did however also battle to set the idle speed perfectly on even a short-term basis. The components used in construction are also outdated making working on it quite a chore, unless you enjoy fiddling with split pins, etc. Lighting is excellent, and the vibrations acceptable.

[@thisoldnew4544]

I'm 6'1" barefoot and I think it's tall to get on especially when I'm on uneven ground and have to stretch even further which is when I've dropped it a couple times. that's the only time I have a "height issue" with mine. When I sit my 240 lb ass on the seat on the street it's easy to flat foot with flex in my knees. I don't think you have been offroading at the time u made that comment.

[@kentuckyjustice1408]

I'm the hunter/camper/survivalist type guy, and I won't have a bike that can't go off road. I have a DR650 that I'm totally satisfied with, as I ride (about) 70% dirt. But I was thinking about getting a KLR650 as my road bike, knowing that it has off road capabilities. I appreciate the video as I make my decision.

[@dalewildey4102]

I'm 6' and 220 lbs. the klr is perfect for me. I've had lots of street and dirt bikes over the years. I love the big enduro. It does it all. I just love throwing a leg over it. Had my 2013 since new. Put lots of farkles on it. The last thing I'm buying is the ims tank. Best mod is the heated grips. Big enduros rule

[@johnmccully3885]

Dale Wildey thank you,same height and weight and I was wondering how it would be.

[@EnriqueReyesJrREALTOR]

I just bought a 2013 KLR650 with 20k miles with tons of added features for $4,000, (father & son from the UK each bought a new KLR had every mod done drove the bikes cross country.) I’m about 5.8 almost 5.9 with a 39’ inseam LOL & you are right about the hight! My first ride from picking up the bike was on the California freeway on a a Friday afternoon. It was a stop & go ride for about 25 miles. Normally I’d just split lanes but I had to stay with the person that gave me the ride to pick up the bike. It was my sister driving an SUV. Also the temperature was about 100 degrees, that was not a fun ride home. Every stop was with my toes barely touching the ground. But once moving, it was great. I found an aftermarket seat on offer up, I’m going to try to thin out the seat first before using a dog bone to lower the bike. The bikes height feels good while moving, & I don’t want to alter its clearance or geometry, & I can see far down the road because of its height. It’s just the stopping that’s scary!

[@londutch]

I bought a 2017 KLR-650. Brand New $7000 in Canada. I love the Bike.

[@chaddiouskilbane5776]

First things first for new buyers. Know what you need out of your bike. If you want hard dirt roads and jumping. A KLR is not the bike for you. If you want a duel use bike for simple to rough dirt roads and street use. This is the bike for you. Know what you want before you decide.

[@USMColdCorps1]

My first KLR was bought new in ‘86. I sold it-it did not die- and got the ‘09 that I have today. There have been many others parked next to it in the garage. I now own 2 additional, way more fancy & advanced bikes and the venerable KLR has always been considered my #1. I do my own maintenance, overhauls, and tire changes, making it one of the few things left in my world I have a lot of control over, which means something to me when I ride her. She’s willed to my Grandson.

[@jeffchapman9867]

The KLR is fine for hitting dirt roads. But it’s built to also be a daily commuter and like some people are saying “adventure.” But it’s a good bike if you’re using it for what it’s intended for. You can carry luggage on it where as other dual sports you can’t. Other dual sports will handle better on the trails. But dual sports have different gearing ratios in the transmission so you can get up to highway speeds. And who knows the stroke of the piston is probably different than on an off road dirt bike. The bottom line is if you’re really into dirt biking you’ll want to own a dirt bike. If you’re a more casual dirt biker looking for the best of both worlds. Than a dual sport is a viable option. But a dual sport will not perform as well on the dirt like a dirt bike. If you’re looking to rip off road trails than you get a dirt bike. The KLR isn’t the most true dual sport out there. There’s other ones that handle better on the dirt and they look and are built more like a dirt bike. The trails that you’re going on look like trails for a dirt bike. There’s probably a couple of dual sports that can handle those trails too. The engineers that build these bikes can only do so much. Yo have to find the one that best suits your needs. They’re all a little different.

[@JTrsqdiver]

I had a ‘99 KLR650, and I’m 5’10” ... I had zero problems with the Bike. I had plenty of torque & the Bike was quick. It’s not a “light” Bike when compared to a legit dirt bike, but this is a dual purpose Bike ... designed for on & off road applications, unlike dirt bikes which are designed only for dirt. But when compared to my H-D Road Glide, the KLR650 is an extremely light Bike. As a matter of fact, I regret selling it ... wish I still had it. It was a lot of fun. They used a similar model of the KLR650 when I was in the military & the engine is practically bullet proof.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Agreed. Since filming this I've been pushing myself to ride a lot harder and it's been paying off. I still stand by what I said and it's something to consider when purchasing, but the KLR is a hell of a bike, especially for the money.

[@dicungDon]

I'm 5'10, 165lbs. Riding a 2015 KLR650. The height is just fine. I do like camping with it, I keep it simple. A big 80L bag tied down on the back and a 55L backbag on my back. Side bags are just too bulky. I changed the sprocket, plug holes in airbox, get bigger needle jet and aftermarket exhaust. These upgrades help with highway riding. Thanks for sharing. :-D Cheers from Australia.

[@goodnewsjesusisgod4475]

Thanks. Most enduro bikes sit high and the bike can get squirrely on bigger riders too. We have a few areas of clay on our trails and the taller bikes can lose it bad. I'm buying with my adult son who is 6'1" 225 and we appreciate the input. He rode dirt bikes his whole life and you are correct in your analysis. Sometimes a smaller bike is more enjoyable when just motoring around the trails. I remember how sad he was when he outgrew his Kx65. My 2 adult daughters ride too and so I always consider safety limitations but maximizing the fun. The nasty comments are from insecure people. Your video is appreciated. We may still get the 650 but we are thinking like you. Thanks for the advice.

[@Lordestroyer]

I’m 5’7”, 150 and have ridden KLRs for more years than I care to count. When I bought my ‘09, I bought a MOAB 2” shortened rear shock (best $ I ever spent) and raised the front forks an inch in the tree. No 6th gear is solved by a cheap front sprocket change. Moved those things over to my ‘11 and had the same bike all over again but brand new. Rode that bike 2 up with 2 weeks of gear from Maryland to Massachusetts with zero issues. Several highway trips to Bristol, TN and back. Great times! Now I’m waiting on the injected model to hit my local store so I can start all over again, lol.

[@GruntyGame]

Everything you've said is true of my experience with the KLR650. The 5 speed gearbox is quiet puzzling in my eyes. I have a larger front sprocket which makes it much nicer for road riding, but when I do anything tricky I feel 1st is way to high. If you're going to do a lot of highway riding consider a windshield and larger front sprocket, if you're going to do a lot of off-road riding then definitely get some foot-pegs with bite; the stock foot-pegs become super slippery if you get water or mud on your boot.

[@gregl.6243]

Had an 08 (bought new in 08). Liked it OK. I'm 6'3", so the height was fine. Biggest complaint was the lack of power on the highway, you simply spend too much time with the throttle pegged. Being as tall as it is, it's also a miserable thing to ride in heavy crosswinds, it doesnt feel heavy at all in crosswinds. Considering that Kawasaki hasn't done much to the engine in 30 years, a power upgrade, EFI and another gear would be nice. Maybe Kawaski could splurge a bit and upgrade the engine & tranny and not touch it again for another thirty years.

[@3101home]

I own a 2011 650 KLR. Agree wish mine had a 6th gear. Also it is a very tall and relatively heavy cumbersome bike. The height helps with obstacles off-road. Also the gas tank is large so when full it adds a lot of weight to the top half of the bike (not the best). Likes: great range,good mpg. Very comfortable even long trips. Rear rack very practicle. It’s the Swiss Army knife of dual purpose bikes, not great at any one thing, but pretty good at many.

[@SuperDriver379]

I’m taking one to the Grand Canyon (2,800 miles round trip) only modifications over stock is 16/40 sprockets and a thermobob thermostat.

[@ADVNevada]

The KLR is still one of my favorites.

[@senorboardhead]

1) Lowering links - I’m 5’7”. With 2 inch links. No problem. Have to shorten the kick stand. 2) Not an off road bike. Dirt Road and Highway Bike. Not freeway. 3) change the drive sprocket for better upper speed gearing.

[@davebrown3117]

The lack of a sixth gear can be "fixed" by swapping the front 15 tooth sprocket for a 16 tooth sprocket. On my KLR, it went from 93 km/h @ 4000 RPM to 100 km/h @ 4000 RPM; or at 100 km/h, the revs dropped from 4300 RPM to 4000 RPM, on stock new tyres. I don't go into very tight off road places that the bike was not really designed for so it is not an issue for me. Where I go a set of Heidenau K60 Scouts (or similar) are the best option for me rather than a big block option or even Dunlop D-606 tyres as I have to do a lot of highway cruising to get there. A year ago, my 2 and a half year old KLR was stolen but recently I bought a new one. I love my KLR!

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thank you for the input! My dad has k60s in his XC800 and likes them a lot! I'm thinking about D606s as my next set just because they look cool haha.

[@Bashe1965]

I've owned my 2015 sense new, and I love it , I'm 6'2" 200lb and the bike fits me fine I can flat foot with some knee bend as well If I stand up my butt comes off the seat. The improvements made in the 2015 year were new seat and stiffer fork springs that made a huge difference in fork dive during breaking, much better for street manners, and I love the seat best stock seat I've ever had on a bike.I ride my KLR daily to work rain or shine and off road every chance I get. Yes she's heavy for off road and a bit top heavy ( and I'm not experienced off road rider) I've learned momentum is your friend keep the big girl moving especially up hill, I ride with buddies who are much better in dirt than me and they ride BMW GSA800 and two have Honda 650L's and I manage to keep up at my own pace and ability. The 6.1 gallon tank is a huge plus over the other bikes mentioned my buddies are always looking for gas during our outings. For the price the KLR is just plain hard to beat!

[@APJ757]

Good video, Ive owned many different bikes over the years my KLR now holds the record for being around the longest at 9 years. Plenty of pros and cons with all the bikes I've owned.

[@danabrown387]

Great video, I’m over in Minneapolis and looking to ride into Wisconsin later this summer. The KLR is a jack of all trades bike, yes it’s heavy, slow, and tall but it’s almost bullet proof and the aftermarket support is immense. It is a poor man’s adventure bike for the 600-650 class that’s for sure.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thank you! Yep all very true!

[@hijother]

The klr is for man's no for gays

[@johnschroeder2710]

Point one is valid, I tried the lowering bones and the rear tire bottomed out. Point two: you may want to recheck the weight, dry weight on my 2008 is 397 and wet (curb) weight is 424 lbs. third point: valid, always looking for an extra gear, also there is a BIG hole between first and second when off roading, (hit neutral a lot ) but my BIGGEST gripe is the rear brake! even with a stainless line & upgraded pads it's falling short of acceptable. all that being said, it's still my first choice for dual sport.

[@jaywarren5948]

Had an 08 klr, loved it great for off road and in town riding. But even tho it "can" go hwy speed you're pegging the throttle. But if you're not doing a lot of hwy speeds often then get it.

[@musicluv95]

Not a great starter bike for sure- but I have a 23 KLR and no regrets- it’s an adventure/cruiser bike to me- it’ll climb steep highway hills without downshifting and enough power for me- for the price- best bike I’ve ever owned-it’s know for Longevity also..depends on who you are, and what you like really…

[@robkcra]

Appreciate and identify with your comments. I have been riding a 2013 for five years and having dropped it six times whilst stopped and thrice when under power (the last time putting me into the hospital two weeks ago), I am finally coming to a decision about whether to keep the bike or not. I am no weakling and stand 5’11” at 290lbs. Yet this bike becomes increasingly difficult to handle, not only due to its weight but also the fact that it carries it weight high. And then there is that 35” seat height! By contrast my 2015 Super Tenere 1200 weighs over 100 lbs more but has a much lower centre of gravity. After 12000 kms I don’t remember coming close to dropping it (granted it has not been off road yet). It also has an adjustable seat which is lower than the KLR’s to start with. Yet my KLR is a wonderful ride. Absolutely road worthy on the pave and has taken me on several 6-8000 km trips. It will cruise all day at 120 kph at about 5100 rpm and uses only 1/2 litre of oil per 1300 miles. I have found that oil consumption only becomes noticeable when you approach the 5000 rpm range. If I keep the bike I will install a 16 tooth small chain sprocket which will drop that higher speed rpm range to about 4500. The bike charms you but bites back every now and then.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Oooo ouch! Yeah I take it pretty easy on mine since I'm often solo and trying to ride and talk, so I've only had a few very low speed tip overs but I can see some serious injuries happening if you really gave'r. I suppose I could say the same about my XL250 though too. Super Tenere sounds like a fun bike with some nice options! I might get something like that eventually but I think I'd have a hard time parting with my KLR too. Thank you for sharing!

[@cascadian19]

@@SwankyCatProductions nice, I had an XL250, and I'm thinking about a KLR since my ZX10R is a bit of a fair weather mare. Having a hard time deciding whether to go with a KLR or some other tourer for my 100km round trip commute though...

[@strongdelusion9442]

Put a 16 tooth front sprocket on it for highway trips! Lowers the RPM's by 400 at speed!

[@kennethlowe6337]

1 tooth up on front 1 down on back you can still use the same chain. Plus you loose 3 to 400 rpms at 70 mph.

[@seatime674]

I put a 16 up front and dropped 4-5 teeth in the back and lowered rpms 950...Found that 6th freeway gear😅

[@rdstrain49]

I've had Yamaha Enduros in the 60s and 70s, BMW R100 GS/PDs in the 80s and 90s, and a KLR650 in 2010. All different yet somewhat similar. The KLR650 is my favorite although I must admit I miss the low seat height of the Yamaha Enduros. I'm 5'9, old and fat and am about to get my second KLR650. Seat height is a non issue for most riding, keep in mind you will likely not be able to "duck walk" the bike in some situations. Gearing may be just a bit low but is easily remedied by a counter sprocket. The KLR may be a bit heavy but that only makes it a very friendly highway companion ( it's positively a light weight when compared to the BMW). All in all the KLR is an outstanding ride, and if you stay within the design limits it may well be one of the best motorcycles I've ever owned and there have been many, many of them.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thank you for the comment! Very good info! I'm learning to worry less about being able to put my feet down and focusing on just getting through obstacles. Seems to be helping a lot!

[@Eldofarmboy]

I had a 2012 KLR650. Thing went anywhere I had the balls to point the front wheel. I even raced in a local hare scramble and finished 4th on it. After I put a full Vance & Hines exhaust, Dynojet stage 2 jet kit, and opened up the airbox it gained a ton of power. A D.I.D. X-Ring chain helped free up a little power to the rear wheel as well. That beast had 31k miles on it when I made the mistake of selling it and still ran like new. I also never had any issues with the "doohickey" that everyone talks about. My only gripe with the KLR is that it isn't comfortable enough to ride for hundreds of miles at a time. 800 miles from my place in California to my uncle's place in Oregon was enough to make my back hurt like hell for half of the two weeks I spent up there

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Nice!!! I only have 16k on mine but I don't intend to do anything with the doohickey either...hopefully I don't regret that haha. Thank you for sharing!

[@hogblesser]

I've owned and still own many bikes. The KLR is the perfect all around bike. Bought mine in 2007 brand new. I've taken it from the Bay area to Mexico, right onto the beach, Bay to Canada and so many other long rides. It's tall but I grew up on bikes that were too big for me. The KLR has never let me down. 40k miles and I've never had to do anything other than oil, rubber, chain type maintenance. Been dropped countless times without any serious damage. Just started to burn a little oil so I'm not feeling the long rides until I can rebuild and bore... but then the 2022 Came out and it's so affordable for what you get. No reason not to own two I guess. I own a Harley and a couple other bikes but the KLR is the one I use the most. I was out on a mini bike at 4yo and rode almost daily as a kid but I swear, it's like I have some weird connection to the KLR that I never had even when I was a kid and riding was all I cared about. Was my sole transportation in the Bay area for a few years crossing the bridge daily for work. Easy to zip through traffic and on weekends I was off to the mountains or the redwoods and then down whatever trail or fire road I felt like exploring. From the freeway to single track trails without having to stop for anything but the occasions beverage or puff.. Sad face. Gotta rebuild! The 2022 is looking good though.

[@vironpayne3405]

All true, but I prefer the KLR650 to the DL650 due to greater simplicity. I went to purchase a 2022 RE Himilayan and came home with a very nice 2018 KLR650 with $3000 of upgrade parts, 3402mi, extented warrantee, maintenance journal, and original parts. I told myself I wouldn't get another KLR650 just because at 5'8" they are too much bike, but this 2018 is about 1" lower and I've only dropped it once in three months. My 08 I dropped 3X the first two weeks! I still loved the 08 until it was stolen, which is when I got the vStrom 650.

[@unclequack5445]

Ive had 24 different bikes the KLR650 is one of the best Ive owned. My 03 will pull way from a friends 2nd gen model, I did only foam filter air box mod new pipe and re-jet and a few more mods i keep to myself. I plan on a lighter stock size piston and a ported head when I finally get ready to do a full tune up. So far it runs sweet and has forever.

[@malamute8257]

I'm scoping these out on Craigslist for my first motorcycle ever. I plan to take the MSF course in the coming months and then buy over winter. Can't wait, this looks so fun.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Awesome! It's by far my favorite bike yet and I've owned two CBR600RRs, a DRZ400 and an 1100 Virago. Wouldn't ever go back!

[@vercos007]

Some very worthy comments on the old klr. A couple of fixes...lowering links make such a huge difference to the intimidation factor of the bike. I put some 2" lowering links on mine as im 5'8" and immediately this bike was so much more usable, comfortable and less intimidating. Cant do much about the weight but with links its much less an issue. For gearbox issue put a 16 tooth front sprocket on...wont fix completely but will make u less needy of the 6th gear.

[@johnquest3102]

I had a 1988 KLR650, I was too small and weak to take it off road, i could barely pick it up if dropped, but it would hit 100 mph fast, very torquey.

[@gsstrings339]

I owned a 1995 KLR 650 brand new, first 1000 miles was no mirrors, knobby tires, sand pits ,railroad tracks, woods, following 2 guys 1 on a XR 400 another on a CR 250. Double jumps in the pits 90mph down RR tracks. Went everywhere they did. And many times got there first!!!! Sometimes its the rider don't blame the bike. That bike is very capable. Great wheelly machine as well.

[@abbotdog3]

I owned a 2015 KLR and it served its purpose fairly well but I couldn't get beyond the gutlessness of it. So I ended up selling it and buying a 2018 DR650. Sometimes I miss the KLR buy my DR really has much more power. Im happy for now. Who knows what next month will bring...

[@SwankyCatProductions]

This will be my 3rd season on the KLR and I was on a DRZ400 before that. So maybe I'm just use to it by now, but the power doesn't really bother me I guess. I do have the FMF pipe but I doubt that makes a huge difference. I know how you feel though, I love my KLR but I always have my eye out for whats next haha.

[@jontest5718]

That would be my impression of it as well. Having owned two sport bikes and 3 HD sportsters I was not sure of to make of the complete lack of power. Not to mention how unrefined the bike was. Minimalism seems to be the trend lately and I figure this bike is the poster child for the motorcycle world.

[@jamesp.mcqueenjr.4783]

I currently have the 2018 KLR 650 at 6' tall I see no issues with the height of the bike and they must have lowered the weight from the model you have cause currently curb weight is 432 for my bike. But I can see the point on this may be valid but they definitely depend on each individual year and person.

[@malcolmnuttall3165]

I have a 2013, on the height issue, you can get lowering links for the Uni Trak suspension, to suit shorter riders, even tall riders can benefit from fitting them, and fitting a 16tooth sprocket will give you better road gearing, without affecting it's off-road abilities. Oh and cut the baseplate off the stand then cut a inch (2cms) off the tube, weld plate back on, bike will sit without risk of falling to the right.

[@TrustyZ900]

That's why I bought a '17 DR 650. No counter balancer tensioner, no out of round cylinder liners/oil burning problems, much faster through the gears and on highway, and 70 pounds lighter. Made in Japan quality - not Thailand! I still have a soft spot for the KLR , but give me the much simpler DR. Install an aftermarket windshield like I did and I was comfortable from Idaho to the Mexican border. Rotopax 1.75 helped too.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Nice that's awesome. I'm on a Tenere 700 now but might pick up an old DR sometime for tighter single track and just to see what the difference is between it and the KLR.

[@xCRO3x]

It really does need a sixth gear. Every time I have mine out I try to find that hidden sixth

[@BikerBytes]

I’m currently deciding between the two great rivals, the KLR and the DR favouring the KLR right now though for my adventure bike. Great video, thanks.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I've been there! Good luck and thank you!

[@amospierce9610]

Dr has more power and is lighter. I’m sure you have done you homework but getting rid of my Kawi for the Suzuki was the best decision I’ve made ( as far as trading bikes go!)

[@MericanAdventures]

Lowering links and a lower seat will fix your height problem. Not much you can do about weight, except get used to it. As for not having a 6th gear, it would be nice but the engine is so bullet proof you can due 80 mph at 5500 rpm all day long and it's no problem. I don't know what upgrades you have done but upgrading the suspension will give you a new bike and it's a must for off road. Also a new exhaust and jet the carb will free up some of the trapped horsepower, only way to get more HP is a 685 or 705 kit. I had a 2008 for a few years and just sold my 2002 that I had for 10 years as I got tired of picking it up, I upgraded to a KTM 500 exc and I ride my BMW R1200 GSA on long trips.

[@donutsandwheelies6022]

Glad I'm not the only one that has issues backing that beast up or just on my toes. I recently cut down the foam in the seat so I can at least flat foot on one side with the lean.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Haha thank you for the honest comment!!! I should really either get mine cut down or get a lower aftermarket seat so I can flat foot easier.

[@donutsandwheelies6022]

@@SwankyCatProductions For real! I was tempted to put in some lowering links, but I want to avoid messing with the clearance or suspension.

[@robbieandbeckie]

Just put a 16T/42T sprocket set on my 2005 KLR. Very mild at highway speeds now. Under 3500rpm at 55mph, and 1st gear still low enough to creep along while feathering the clutch. Get a DR650 for cheap offroad duties. The KLR is a working man's "I go where ever I please" bike.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I've been thinking about trying a 16 tooth, just not sure I'll like it off road. I've also been thinking about trading in my 250 for a DR650 but I think ill miss the light weight 250.

[@robbieandbeckie]

@@SwankyCatProductions Its relatively quick and definately cheap to swap out the front sprocket. There is a JTF511.16 KLR650 16 tooth sprocket on Ebay for $9.95 free ship. The DR doesn't chug like the KLR, more mid to top end power. I went with smaller front sprocket and it will still go 100. Would take the DR over KLR off road anyday. Suspension mods a must for DR though. Very Squishy.

[@AutoCrete]

The KLR is a Swiss Army Knife. Not particularly good at anything but in competent hands it sure can do a lot more than most bikes. My complaint about the transmission is the gears ought to be farther apart with a lower 1st and higher 5th. The torque the engine makes is more than enough for wider spaced gears.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Agreed!

[@alexandrevanasse3877]

Think it's the first ever comment I leave but I had a klr 650 model A! If you want more top speed simply add a bigger front sprocket ;) I had so much fun on that bike!!! but yes it's for tall people!

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I've contemplated trying a 16 tooth but I'm afraid I wouldn't like how it effected the off road riding. I've recently grown more a custom to the height and it doesn't limit me so much anymore, just gotta keep it moving!

[@MuppetVT]

So to counter the cons 1: tall seat height: yes, the seat height is tall but it’s a dual-purpose ADV bike. It has great ground clearance not to mention you can obviously lower it to make it easier to get into 2: the weight: for a dual-sport or dirt bike it’s heavy. But it’s more of an ADV bike and for an ADV bike it’s light to average especially with its versatility 3: 5 speed transmission: Yeah 5 speeds is a bit lackluster for a newer bike but it’s also great for off road use and for most ADV riders that would pick the KLR 650, AKA beginners, they won’t miss that 6th gear on the highways and even for experienced riders who get it to be an enduro bike or a trail bike they can ride right from their garage to the trails, rip the trails, and then ride back home it’s the perfect gearbox. I personally wouldn’t mind getting an early 2000’s KLR 650 and adding a custom seat, saddle bags, a tail bag, and using it for long trips even with lots of highway riding

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Fair points!

[@markblevins7460]

I've always been told that you don't want to be able to touch with both feet on a dirt or dual purpose bike. You're less likely to remove both your feet from the pegs and get injured in hairy situations.

[@skylar9196]

Not if you are over 6 ft tall! I haven't ever sat on a bike that I could not touch both feet on the ground.

[@ChristopherEarleBellevue]

Good review, I can see how your complaints might be a problem for you, but for me this is exactly what I'm after. I'm tall, I'm big...and...well, I'm tall and big :-). The sixth gear would be nice, but I'm also old and slow :-). I think you just sold me on this as the perfect all around on-off road bike :-).

[@SwankyCatProductions]

For the price you can't beat it!

[@tylork8025]

This is definitely a big guys bike. I'm 6'4", the Klr is very comfortable for me. She is definitely a horse as you said. My 2006 seems to have way more get up and go than my friends 2011 Klr. Does anyone know why that might be?

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Hmm have you had yours since new? I did the KLX needle kit on mine and it makes a noticeable difference. You can do a few other things inside the carb that give it more power as well, maybe someone did it before you got it?

[@ScratchBabble]

1 isn't a problem for me at 6'1 but some good highway pegs would be awesome! 2 and 3 definitely are an issue for me. I've tried the major (for me) highway comfort mods, 16t and Madstad, but it's still no tourer over 65. So my next plan is buy a used touring bike and strip the KLR back close to stock and just use as a commuter and off road. That's my story and I'm sticking to it....maybe...

[@armandopinder6026]

I have a KLR650 2018. And everything you said is true.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thanks for corroborating!

[@jeffcraft1456]

I made a decision about 3 months ago between the KLR 650 & the VERSEYS 650. After doing research on the two I chose the verseys. The verseys has more HP & You can ride moderately off road too. Its been great. Love the bike. But the klr is no slouch either. Great video. Thanks

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thank you! Yes the versys sounds like a great bike too!

[@jeffferguson899]

I'm 5'7" with a 28" inseam and I rode a klr for 6 years. I did cut the seat down 1.5 inches though

[@maritimegoalie]

I had 2 klr 650s.... loved them both!!!

[@simonj1971]

My klr650 2011 is awesome... Only bike that when things go wrong it is usually a quick fix.

[@stendak]

I bought an 09 in 09 and was aware of the limitations and have no regrets. I too am 6'1"

[@garyd5622]

For a tall, strong person who likes to stick to the speed limit, the title should be. "Three reasons TO buy a KLR".

[@davehughes6151]

I wouldn't trade my klr for any of those bikes mention , I've had street bikes dirt an 4 wheelers , side by side . Been thru a lot of bikes , just enjoy what you have. Ride my friend just ride .

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Wise words! KLR is an awesome ride!

[@edwalker8375]

Sounds like you just need a smaller bike. I love my big heavy Klr650, but I'm a big heavy guy, 6 ft 3, 250 lbs. mines a 2007 model. I love the balance of good power, great mileage, off road ability. There is so much you can do with these bikes, springs, tires, HP pipes, carbs, cams , shocks, springs etc etc. You can add a pipe, a Cam, and a big Mikuni carb. , incredible power, but much mileage loss, it's a trade off. One thing all Klr 650 owners should do, relocate your coolant tank, add a second radiator, it's simple to do and a huge improvement in running and cooling. To the guy in this video, why not lower your bike, it would be so much better for you I think. happy trails. Add a stronger rear spring, it's amazing.

[@tonyquist9569]

I love having long legs, I can fiat foot my klr with my knees slightly bent but it’s also a pain to find 28x36 riding pants that’s my only complain

[@MrCODEmaster00]

Damn, 28x36??? Are you underweight or? I wear a 32waist 36length when healthy, when Slightly overweight/average it's 34, and VERY unhealthy (beyond average) I could be 36 for like 2 months before I work it back off. I'm 6'5" and when healthy am 210lbs (Decent leg, shoulder, and some bicep muscle) I legit don't understand the 28" waistband of a tall person, I'm genuinely curious.

[@tonyquist9569]

@@MrCODEmaster00 nope just lanky, I weigh 170, up to a 30x36 now though lol.

[@tonyquist9569]

@@MrCODEmaster00 I just have a shorter torso and long ass legs.

[@hannda6778]

A Seat Concepts or Sargents lowered saddle would help you. Drops the seat without altering your suspension like a Kouba link would.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I've been thinking a new seat might be in my future, hopefully a used one haha.

[@brandoncumbie6866]

Totally, agree with all three of your reasons. I would have to put #4 is that you will have to make modifications to the stock bike. I see you replaced your mirrors already, and I hope you have replaced the stock foot pegs. Anything other than the stock pegs make that bike a whole new kind of beast.Great video!

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thanks! I really did not mind the stock pegs all that much but I know thats also a very common complaint. I did end up switching them out for a set of the cheep-o Krator pegs. They are certainly and improvement!

[@xCRO3x]

I think Im the only one that likes the stocker mirrors

[@billkipper3264]

First, the KLR has a listed weight of 432 lbs. not 460. My '04 has a listed weight of 392 lbs. However, with full engine guards and large luggage racks it weighs in the neighborhood of 500 lbs with a full tank. Second, although it can be done, the KLR was not designed to be ridden off road. It excels at exactly what you're doing in the video, cruising back roads. It will definitely handle much rougher roads easily as well. Third, gimme 6th gear!

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Yeah I meant 430, not sure where 460 came from haha. I suppose I don't know the exact design intent but I'm continually impressed with the "New Edition" suspension. I like it better then my dad's XC800 to be honest.

[@sdbrantley9065]

At first I thought I was going to be ticked off with this, but quickly came around. You're short. I'm 6'3" at 225+ lbs. My 2009 KLR fits me well. #2. It IS a heavy bike, but it's relatively a feather compared to my old Harley Electra Glide. All in perspective. #3. Just like the Harley, the KLR at highway speed needs an extra gear. Good video. Thx.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thank you for sticking with the video and hearing me out! I can see the bike being much more manageable at your height but I still get by at 5' 10". I've recently been pushing myself to ride the rougher stuff on it and I've gotten a lot more confident on it now. Thanks for watching!

[@stevebergman4587]

KlR is a very low performance in everything. But it will get you there and back with very low maintenance. Proud to own one!

[@tomato88ish]

Honest review, its not really for off road mountain trails. Big , heavy, not fun to pick up, but still one of my favourites. Just not for first time riders heading into the bush. But still the best lower cost adventure bike ever hands down for anyone under 200lbs. I often rode mine WFO and got almost 95mph out of it through BC for years. Tank is appropriate, nimbel is not.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Thanks! It's still my favorite bike so far. And like you said you can't beat the price. You can buy two or three for the price of most other ADV bikes.

[@chuckleskie]

I really wanted to like my KLR but I got rid of it after a year, The concept was great but in actual operation it came up short. - First of all there was the whole doohickey thing that was never properly addressed.. - The original tires that came with the bike wore down extremely fast. - The bike I had buffeted a lot on the freeway. - I never understood why Kawasaki chose a 4 valve shimmed valve head on such a low revving machine. It was just that much harder to do a valve lash adjustment and it was unnecessary -The sub frame bolts were weak.. - The suspension was too soft for large tall riders which is what the bike was designed for.. Unfortunately, the bike had very little competition because it filled a nitch as a big thumper that was freeway capable and off road capable and handled daily commuting. It was a great concept.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

All fair points. Doohicky does worry me but hasn't caused me any issues yet (17,500 Miles). Tires are irrelevant to me since I purchased mine used with a different set, although I agree the stock tires are crap. As for the wind protection the shield and riser I have definitely improve that. The new edition with the stiffer springs seem to suit me just fine. As for the valves...Yeah I'm not looking forward to that job. All in all though even with the few mods I deemed necessary, and maybe even paying a shop to adjust the valves, I still think it's a good economic option that does fill the nitch well...for me anyways. Thanks for the comment!

[@senorboardhead]

1) Lower it ! Links available everywhere - works great ! 2) Not designed for off road - it IS an adventure tourer. Not as heavy as a BMW ! 3) Change the front sprocket a tooth or two - the top end gets tall !

[@BellsRidesAboardSeaBoss]

Yeah i’m 5’8” and touching was an issue so my first mod was new Dog bones. The weight was a learning curve also because in comparison to my last bike that weighed in just under a 1000 lbs I had to back off on my lean on twisties but otherwise I love it. Enjoy the Ride

[@DavidS-iw4ei]

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[@WaymanYounts]

You can lower the bike it has a lower kit you can buy for like 20 dollars

[@billadmond9450]

The title is pretty misleading because the bike it's 1)too high just for you; 2) too heavy just for you; 3) the 5 gear is the bike I was right looking for because I'm sick of shifting 6 gears in metropolitan areas, go and stop all the time. A bike with a 5 gear means it can handle power and torque at lower RPM/s, 1st, 2nd or 3rd is all you need to shift all day around.

[@deanward3445]

2008, 12k + miles I bought it “used” in 2008 with 450 miles. Yeah, yeah… low miles unfortunately. I love it. Still running strong.

[@johnnywalker5635]

#1 isn’t an issue for me. I’m 6’6” and 36” pant inseam 😉In fact i’m not sure what bike I would ride if it wasn’t for a KLR 🤔 I’m an absolute beginner. And just bought my first bike. Brand new KLR. Was going to wait until spring 2020 but heard KLR’s last year was 2019. So I dove on the 0% financing they were offering. I have the solar yellow which I love. it is better looking than black and camo, but moreover, i’m hoping the yellow will strike someone’s eye who otherwise wouldn’t have seen me in a black bike. Thanks for your video. 👍

[@josephclemons4308]

Klr is a good bike no doubt but the honda Africa twin would be better if you got 13000 grand laying around

[@ruaanstrydom9233]

Need some advice here! Im a 6’4 400lb guy looking at my first adv bike. About 60/40 split between tarmac and hard gravel riding with an hours drive to gravel and back. Will this have enough grunt on the highway for my fat ass or do I need to look at something bigger like a gs 800 as they seem to be very popular here in South Africa?

[@anotherboredgenius283]

nice vid. got a 2014.5, new... i'm 6'3, 180 and i even have trouble getting on the thing. that said, i really love the bike. i've ridden gs, tigers, harleys, tons of sport bikes... too many to list... it's the smallest displacement i've ever owned, and i was worried about it's highway chops... i bought the tall windscreen and i've done 95mph - fully loaded. you can cruise @ 75mph all day long - no problem. it's great all rounder - but it doesn't give you the thrill of an in-line 4. thanks.

[@SwankyCatProductions]

Great info and input thank you!

[@johnmitchell2741]

I'm only 5.8'' I owned two of these first one was a 2000 something I put 13k miles on it without a problem second one was an 08 I had lots of issues with it sold it after 1,5 years with 3800 miles Suzuki Dr 650 was my other favorite dual sport owned 3 of these.if your gonna ride more off road , mud or sand the Suzuki Dr 650 is a much better choice .if you ride on the street or gravel, back roads the klr is much more comfortable with much better wind protection

[@SwankyCatProductions]

I'm actually on another KLR but a gen 3 this time. I really would like to try a DR in the future but I think I'll miss my wind protection.

[@backyardmec2348]

Dude I'm 5'4 180 pounds ND I ride my 2001 klr 650 like nothing ,yes on my tip toes 😂😂

[@VELAVIEE]

This gives me hope Lmao Im 5’4 too and deciding whether I should get this klr650 or not

[@lapincfl]

Dude I'm 5'9 and ride my klr on my tip toes. You are definitely not touching the ground on stock height

[@backyardmec2348]

@@lapincfl on one foot i was lmaooo