SWAT Commander Reacts to Door Kickers 2

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

🤘 thanks for the love, dudes.

[@davisulo96]

Your content is awesome. I've been hooked since i discover your channel. Much love from Argentina CPG!

[@Ashes-001]

Hey dude didn't expect u to be in this video but was thinking you'd be a good example

[@RexMiseriae]

Dude the second i heard your voice i knew it was you

[@MidnightCruiseTV]

The collab we needed!

[@Cool_guy-i1u]

Yea thanks bro now I know how to clear a room irl

[@stdog9423]

11:10 the term “running the rabbit” is a term used by the military and the way it works is you have an operator run across a short doorway or hallway where an enemy is believed to be holding, as the operator runs across a fellow operator is suppose to back him up and shoot whatever hostile may be aiming for the “rabbit”, it’s a very risky but effective strategy, pretty sure it’s most popular with the US army.

[@Tango_Mike]

I remember hearing that in some episodes of Seal Team which in fact has former spec ops guys training and even portraying some characters.

[@ChrisTHECOP]

Hey thanks, yeah, we would never do that in police work.

[@youtubesucks5893]

Sounds like peeking doors in Tarkov lol

[@jrmcrlmorales]

pretty sure Israel and Cameron have mentioned this before as well, just not sure if they called it with that name

[@GalluZ]

So in gamer terms (CSGO), it's basically the job for the entry fragger, who often spearheads the entry to a site. Entry fraggers would often die first to bait the opponent to reveal their position, so their teammates must back them up in case they are down. This is called trading to prevent the opponent from having the man advantage.

[@HelioLhama]

Pairs has a military background so seeing the difference between his expertise with CQB and the police take on CQB is very interesting. Keep CPG content coming we love it!

[@magnusred2945]

Did he ever say what he did in the military? I'm guessing 75th

[@HelioLhama]

He did in one of his podcasts but he is still fairly quiet bout it so I didn't want to say here yaknow

[@magnusred2945]

@@HelioLhama if he said it in a podcast then it's public, was he SF or rangers?

[@baylorisserstedt7889]

@@magnusred2945 He was a 11A (Infantry Officer) for the 75th Ranger Regiment.

[@magnusred2945]

@@baylorisserstedt7889 THANK YOU SIR! IM SO PROUD I GUESSED 75TH LOL

[@Ezraaaaaaaaaaaa]

The guy they're reacting to was a ranger in the military and he has a channel where he plays tactical games where he can test his training in games.

[@DagobahDruid]

What was the ranger’s name?

[@JoshuaCard]

@@DagobahDruid Controlled Pairs Gaming www.youtube.com/@ControlledPairsGaming

[@marianolaguzzi]

1:44 Interestingly enough, he didn't just play a lot of tactical games, he was also an army ranger, which is where he learned the tactics he uses in his gameplays

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

When did he say he was a ranger? Last I checked he never wanted to specify so as not to appear to be using service to get views

[@genericcreator6467]

@@theo55645 he did

[@agmsmith4079]

@@theo55645 ...he was in 3/75. He is a Ranger with several combat deployments.

[@ashleyy_666]

@@deathkorpscommissar8516 On his podcast he brought on another Ranger and mentioned that he was in the same company (I think) as the other Ranger just at different times.

[@razzrasmussen7428]

@@deathkorpscommissar8516 lol I just remember he said army special operations and figures that meant ranger because if he were a green beret he would’ve said sf so it kinda narrowed it down

[@Munnstery]

damn, using cpg's gameplay. These guys have taste. Absolutely love his content

[@MassivePonyFan]

I assume that's a KZbinr.

[@Munnstery]

@@MassivePonyFan yeah, Controlled pairs gaming. He does tactics and stuff like this

[@TheElephantChumpkin]

He's the only one that really covers DK2 and does it well, so they didn't have a lot of choice. What they didn't tell Chris Cano is CPG is a vet and actually studied CQB extensively. There's most likely a stark difference in combat experience, sure, but from two different realms of battle between them.

[@jasmachugh4222]

@@TheElephantChumpkin Mil CQB and law enforcement CQB is apples to different colored apples. Similar but different.

[@subtleblow]

I like that he points out checking behind open doors. My friend is really adamant about how games and tv shows never do it. He said people do it all the time when he's serving arrest warrants.

[@leftvassis]

@kip_xo Realistically speaking somebody entering a room expecting hostile treatment wont gently push open the door, they fling it wide open. If you re standing behind it you will get hit, it wont be pleasant and they ll know you re there

[@t4nkychannel921]

One of the points he makes about having more people: I've been playing Door Kickers since 2013. Once you get more than five operators, it becomes a pain to control them all. I assume that in games like Ready or Not and SWAT 4, the challenges of balancing gameplay and coding network probably also increases.

[@IoFoxdale]

It's because in games you're chasing the perfect run and in reality you have extra people to be redundant in case of casualties and also to cover more faster.

[@JoMiMi_h]

didn't the original Door Kickers release in '14 though?

[@DatAsianGuy]

@@JoMiMi_h maybe typo? Perhaps he meant 2019 instead of 2010?

[@JoMiMi_h]

@@DatAsianGuy Maybe, I'unno.

[@jonathanjuliman5628]

This is why Swat Operators undergo training... in games, you can win with 1 operator in a perfect run. But in reality, your force must be at least 3 times bigger than the threat.

[@robertjencks3679]

I don't know if he would be interested in it or not, but i think it would be cool to ask Cobtrolled Pairs to come talk through another door kickers gameplay video on here with one of the tactical shooter regulars

[@jaanikaapa6925]

Controlled Pairs has bad history with bathrooms.

[@ControlledPairsGaming]

Valid

[@ArthurMorgan-uz1px]

⬆️ do not fall for these kind of scam

[@oofman1911]

@@ArthurMorgan-uz1px will never

[@ArthurMorgan-uz1px]

@@oofman1911 👍🏻

[@MalaysianChopsticks]

Suicide bomb all the time

[@z34rk79]

As someone else has said "running the rabbit" is more a military term that is understandable that a cop would know less about since they are different fields entirely ... and as risky and dangerous as it is, the military won't always have as many options a police officer may most likely have more often in many scenarios

[@Indiana_James99]

I’ve been waiting for a gamology vid on this. And they used footage from Controlled Pairs! Now we need Cam and Israel to react, especially since Cam was a ranger.

[@JerusalemYouthMinistry]

absolutely want Cam and Israel to react to DK2 too.

[@joshwalker4506]

Controlled pairs was also a ranger 3/75

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

My favorite thing where he talks about gas is just the though "This is a military scenario, that's a war crime"

[@brianthepenguin452]

1:45 This guys has done a lot of tactical stuff, both in real life and gaming, since he was literally a ranger Also this game is more of a military perspective than a LE perspective, which explains the different ROE’s

[@spikem5950]

It's interesting to see how the different ROEs lead to different mindsets between the two. The SWAT guy is like "yeah we wouldn't shoot him, we'd have to arrest him" meanwhile in the military it's shoot on sight in a lot of these situations. On the other hand, the SWAT also wants to use chemical weapons that militaries are not allowed to use as it's a war crime to use even tear gas, so the ranger doesn't even remotely think of it as a possibility.

[@TWISTEDSPARTANXIII]

i love christhecop, hes gotta be one of my favorite returning experts

[@ChrisTHECOP]

Thank You very much!

[@MassivePonyFan]

I think for me at least it's because he understands the game is a game and can tell you what's different from reality. Some other experts don't really get the games or just don't seem to have much of a interest in the game.

[@KillMonger592]

Well this game is a ranger game so their ROEs are a bit different The first DoorKickes with the swat guys would've been more up his ally

[@KillMonger592]

@Aster except that swat Don't use frag grenades and rockets and don't usually go up against bad guys with grenades and rockets and S- Vest... ROEs are alot different overseas than in the LEO environment trust me.

[@KillMonger592]

@Aster would be great to see them compare experiences

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

@Aster Military also has a different ROE is the big thing, there is no legal obligation to capture an armed combatant, but at the same time, CS gas is a warcrime

[@OperatorMax1993]

Yeah, though the first game doesn't follow rules of engagement meaning your SWAT guys are gonna blast anyone aside from the HVTs or tazing someone, second Door Kickers game has more features that fixes certain issues from the first, oh and it doesn't just have the rangers in but also the CIA and the Nowheraki SWAT inspired by the Nineveh SWAT from Iraq

[@Shade01982]

@@deathkorpscommissar8516 Not entirely. The US still maintains tear gas is not a banned chemical weapon and they still use it on occasion. And since this game is US Rangers (I think?), it's still plausible. The US has a lot of subjects they disagree with in this area. Like the use of cluster munitions...

[@MaximumNewbage]

The SWAT commander has never heard of running the rabbit before because it is an infantry tactic. Not a SWAT tactic. As a side note: Doorkickers 2 is set in a military setting, unlike Door Kickers 1 which was in a SWAT setting. Running the rabbit involves the first man rapidly dashing across a doorway that might have someone with a gun trained on it too quickly for the shooter to react and shoot the first man. A split second after the first man dashes, the second man peeks the corner. The shooter in the room will instinctively track the first man, bringing his weapon out of position to react to the second man peeking him, providing the second man with the opportunity to shoot him without being shot. The person in the video that the SWAT commander reacting to is a military veteran using infantry CQB tactics. So him calling "running the rabbit" not recommended is a bit cringe. If it's a tactic that was good enough for people clearing rooms in Fallujah, then it's good enough to use in a video game where the objective is to kill all enemy combatants in the building. I suspect SWAT does not use this tactic because their job is to arrest people, so they can't just have a second guy peek the room and shoot the occupants immediately after the first guy baits their attention away from the spot the 2nd guy is peaking from. But that doesn't mean it's a bad tactic, like the SWAT commander is strongly implying with his words and tone. It just means that SWAT rules of engagement don't allow for it, so they don't use it and never learned it, which is why the commander is ignorant of it. As for the SWAT commander's comments about never not being compromised... again, if you're infantry in a warzone, there is definitely a distinction between when you've been detected by the enemy, and when you haven't. You act differently in each of those circumstances. Infantry CQB tactics account for this, while SWAT probably does not, because they are unlikely to approach a target under stealth.

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

Door kickers 2 is in a warzone setting, not particularly military, as you can use malitia, local SWAT, and CIA The rest of what you said is right though

[@MaximumNewbage]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctor Operating in a warzone makes it a military setting. Your starting squad is an army ranger squad. Your "swat team" uses rocket launchers and militia (which means its not really a swat team, even though they call it one). CIA isnt military, but operating in a warzone makes it a military setting. Especially if their operations are in concert with military forces or objectives (which they are, since the ranger squad can be used in every mission the CIA can be used). Just look at the art and the background menu screen. Its clearly a military setting.

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

@@MaximumNewbage a SWAT team could be armed with jets, and still be law enforcement technically. and malitia isn’t always particularly military, it’s just armed civilians that are doing law enforcement or militaries jobs if they are overwhelmed. I am going to assume your right though, as I am some random ass high schooler so I definitely am not knowledgeable in the topic, so I’ll let off.

[@ya_homeboy_prophet]

That’s true, but he’s just applying what he knows to the gameplay which is the point of the video. Sure, there’s a bit of a disconnect sometimes

[@MaximumNewbage]

@@ya_homeboy_prophet Its possible to apply what you know as an "expert" without the snark and smugness. That way, you avoid the cringe that occurs if you end up being wrong or ignorant about what you're saying. Jonathan Ferguson of the Royal Armouries museum, who often comments on weapons in various video games, is a good example of how to do this right. Go watch one of the videos he does in collaboration with Gamespot, then contrast it with how this SWAT commander talks.

[@GanjirahTheDoorKicker]

A gameology video about door kickers?! No way! I've been waiting for this. I love this game, more people need to play it. Really cool.

[@z34rk79]

Thankfully in Ready or Not, you can move the cuffed alive suspects or civilians to move them to capture that realistic part of "losing your operator" when you find a suspect, with the increased players mod

[@TheLPRnetwork]

Phenomenal choice of gameplay. Excellent choice!

[@durrtyjerzeeable]

I love how square he is...It's refreshing...and his tactics are legit...but I wanna ask him if he's put on the clock with limited gear...how woulf he do??? 🤔😂🤣

[@firestorm165]

Better than most

[@durrtyjerzeeable]

@@firestorm165 better than ME but...I wanna see him deal with what he has

[@kariko07]

New to your channel, but a big ControlledPairs fan, love this breakdown, seeing the SWAT side to CQB and looking at what Pairs is doing.. just for reference Pairs is military, so his tactics are slightly different and that’s where “running the rabbit” comes from.. Great stuff - new sub here, love this content!!

[@flampayer3003]

you don't know how long Doors kickers fans have been waiting for this video

[@TWISTEDSPARTANXIII]

i also love how chris has become such a gamer since the first time i saw him lol

[@ChrisTHECOP]

LOL

[@TWISTEDSPARTANXIII]

@@ChrisTHECOP lol a spam bot commented and chris commented, this is funny and weird

[@OperatorMax1993]

I love that too lol

[@tuckergymnest0]

Swat officer: "I would have 18 guys go into this room" Door kickers 2: "Best I can do is 3"

[@Youtube.bro.okayyy]

Fr 😂

[@captaindelta43]

I actually love this game . Still great than few many swat related games . Love the professional reaction 👌

[@NobodySoldier]

I love it, I'm glad he reacts to Door Kickers.

[@MrPwner911]

Nice to see Chris again!

[@ChrisTHECOP]

ty

[@囧囧]

Man, I'll love to see what play style of their playing the Door Kickers 2.

[@matejlazic912]

Is this the way swat commanders entertain themselves. If yes then it's beautiful

[@erycdamaso_613]

Running the rabbit, or shoot the rabbit, is a drill where one guy runs across an open threshold while the others hold a high-man, low-man position to flood the room with fire as needed.

[@Timmeh010]

7:38 looking at that room i think by diminishing the corners, you can already see nobody can hide in the 'blind' corners of the room left and right of the door, since those walls are barely as wide as a door each. this wouldnt work as well with longer walls or a square room, but in this scenario i think the operators could just focus on and hold the closet door from outside the room where they still have cover, and throw a banger towards the door of the closet room.. and if out of bangers, tell the suspect he cant go nowhere and talk him out of there. either way plenty of time to get new bangers or gas or whatever. or they could just go full spetsnaz and send everything towards the closet room assuming theres no hostages there. XD

[@Fitingbros101]

the point you made at the end was really good. CS gas seems like the go to option in most hostage scenarios. I for one wouldn't mind being gassed if it meant the bad guy was dealt with

[@awmperry]

Though Gamology’s choice of shotgun to illustrate breaching around 6:14 is less than ideal. :-D

[@krispypepper1898]

IDK if anyone will see this but at 8:18 is this different overseas when the Army is raiding a compound?

[@beezarkdrawings7414]

Welcome back, Chris! Awesome tactical analysis!

[@jakobroynon-fisher9535]

Controlled Pairs is a badass irl as far as I know.

[@chaos_monster]

10:20 what I am hearing from him is, that in reality clear communication is the key to success

[@firesturmgaming]

You know if Chris wants like 18 people rushing into the room, he should see gameplay footage of the militia faction.

[@spikem5950]

Well that faction is literally a SWAT team, just so much more limited in equipment than western SWAT teams and dealing with Not!ISIS

[@magzb9151]

Nice vid as always

[@spikem5950]

The issue with saying you'd just throw gas in there is that these guys have different ROE than law enforcement. While they're more lax on some things (being a lot more liberal with pulling the trigger for instance) they're stricter on others, and gas in a warzone is a violation of the Geneva Conventions -- even just tear gas is illegal to use in military operations.

[@awmperry]

Controlled Pairs has great videos - his DK2 stuff is really nice and methodical. Would be fun to see a collab between you two some time.

[@SadatayWadatah]

That collection in the background 🤌

[@JohnDoe-vx9bo]

SIG makes amazing rifles. Some have amazing grouping with burst shots. Well balanced and easy to kit up. Also some are perfect for people who are either right or left handed. They know what they are doing.

[@TheRealTri]

I've been a fan since they open the Patreon. Can't wait for more units in doorkickers.

[@JohnDoe-vx9bo]

I'm genuinely surprised with how these games don't properly secure the subjects. Having a team member stay behind and properly secure a subject would add an extra level of immersion due to having to utilize your remaining operators to the best of your ability. Plus it's less action for the game to try an process. If anything it would improve the gameplay.

[@MarikBentusi]

The first youtube link in the description (to Christopher Cano's channel) does not work. Nice video tho!

[@kajetan9906]

Just one question. Why the arrows showing the direction of fire of operators in the game have pieces of pizza at the end of them?

[@The-Caged-King]

Because the specific technique is called “pie’ing”. Where you would “pie” off a doorway or a corner

[@NerdInked]

18 operators! Holy crap, I can’t imagine the type of flagging going on with 18 operators going into a room. In the Marine corps we would do two to a room, sometimes four (depending on the layout) That’s all you need, talk about overkill.

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

They could teach the US military a thing or two about having an unfair advantage over the enemy

[@NerdInked]

@@deathkorpscommissar8516 Unfair advantage? Who could teach the military a thing or two? I’m not catching your drift. 18 operators in a room is moronic at its finest.

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

@@NerdInked US Army doctrine wants a 3:1 advantage over the enemy

[@NerdInked]

@@deathkorpscommissar8516 I was in the infantry, that doctrine doesn’t ring a bell. Doctrine is a stepping stone which is tweaked in combat. Doctrine is what is taught at boot camp and SOI, however, it means nothing in theater. You were Army Infantry?

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

@@NerdInked The army likes to have more people than the enemy yes? It was probably not taught to infantry cause its less relevant (from my understanding) in small unit tactics, more of a large scale thing. I've heard it from many places, I kinda assumed it was common knowledge. And no I have not been in the infantry

[@Let_me_get_a_name.-_-]

It takes me minutes or hours normally to fully master a game but this took be 2 days(counting sleep eat and charging so probably 1/2 day) to fully master its just sooo great and satisfying i want the 1 plan and no pause games as a challenge and i will never stop at a level til perfection haha so its hard❤❤love it

[@Bulbman123]

7:53 The Ready or Not community needs to hear this XD

[@AdmiralLink]

Wow Chris nice setup!

[@ChrisTHECOP]

TYVM

[@Zach-h1f]

Glad to see controlled pairs gaming featured here

[@PerroLoco1277]

Make him react XCOM!

[@catalystoftomorrow9644]

So glad you used controlled pairs

[@Pete-vz5uj]

He's wearing RAZER Nari Ultimate's. They are massive cans for a reason. They have haptic feedback that can be very cool to experience. I had a pair and gave them to a friend who broke them (Should have known better cause they "accidentally" break nearly all their stuff).

[@ThaShowStopper]

Yo Chris is always on point! Love how he's always just being himself! My Man! Keep it up!

[@Roselvet]

... Do we have knock-out gas? * *Archer gasp* *

[@MrFederation]

*Still waiting for Spec Ops and Martial Artist to react to Warhammer 40k Space Marine* *Also waiting for Priest to react to Mass Effect*

[@CoolBluBoi]

Yooo Controlled Pairs Gaming?

[@GGG3895-d3s]

18 dudes flooding a room is wild 💀

[@Mortal2064]

Hey Gamology! It's not too late to submit for ask-a-gamer, right?

[@TheJosephSands]

He's back!! I miss the sniper guy too

[@TheMtVernonKid]

Chris your mancave is sweet

[@ChrisTHECOP]

TYVM

[@CommodoreFluffy]

all of the cop/swat stuff doesnt apply cuz dk2 is ranger direct action themed and pairs is a retired ranger

[@CommodoreFluffy]

also re:gas, gas isnt super legal for rangers to use

[@henrikparsgaard9648]

How did they black out the uncleared spaces?

[@idealirreal]

Did you notice the swat man has more figures than anime fan on prom night

[@ChrisTHECOP]

Just a few.

[@_bumky_3053]

Nice video concept

[@LtDogoop]

Get Cam and Izzy to react to this!

[@demeincosmos1164]

Love to see you play it

[@oumtjackawillie]

CPG often mentions the lack of operators compared to irl.

[@american_made5858]

This is controlled pairs gaming he has a military back ground with CQB

[@khiemtrinh8330]

Video games are now teaching gamers to be proficient SWAT breachers.

[@Joe_mama238]

I love door kickers I still have the game downloaded but I get mad a lot sometimes

[@Evidect]

Yoo door kickers, was wondering when they'd do this

[@bla4547]

The one glaring issue with this is that DR2 isn't a police game unlike DR1. You're running with rangers/milita and the goal is to eliminate, not subdue. There's missions where you are literally there to blow stuff up, your guys can carry rocket launchers and the modus operandi is different. Still an interesting watch for sure though. I would love to see him actually play it.

[@Ibot_GM]

This is basically a boss reacting to his employee's youtube channel

[@DarKKnightt07]

I wanna see Chris play this game.

[@PeterPerez.]

Amazing breakdown

[@0DanteMayCry0]

He was a police officer. Now he already swat Commander? Interesting

[@ChrisTHECOP]

Well in reality, no matter your position in rank at the police department you will also be a police officer.

[@deathmachineyt3254]

I love this game

[@Big_John_]

Great Video like always

[@wsadqwer110]

Should definitely react to more of his other videos

[@quinmatthew1]

Oh he's definitely gotta play with the mod that allows extra operators

[@willowthewispy]

Chris I'd love to see you play this game. Pairs does it the military way, you do it the police way. The difference would be fascinating. Of you two would ever team up to play and discuss the differences. Man that would be epic. ❤️

[@spikem5950]

I would love to see Door Kickers 2 get a law enforcement mode where it uses DK2's engine improvements but changes the units and ROE to a law enforcement scenario. A lot of DK2's new mechanics would really fit for DK1 style SWAT.

[@YourPalKindred]

I'd be really curious to see how the Spec Ops guys think about this

[@BrianLybarger-dq6rx]

Don't you think that a bit overkill sending an 18 operatives?

[@gavinking6594]

That background music is from a old ATV game

[@zay-k4765]

The game in general is based on marines and the comments say the player is one. not surprised he'sl playing with cqb. swat door kickers would be police stories pixel dk and doorkickers1

[@AlliedX]

CPG? nice

[@AVeryAngryIronWarrior]

Has he reacted to ready or not?

[@puggyjman1073]

He played it with the army SF guys

[@AVeryAngryIronWarrior]

@@puggyjman1073 oh thanks for the info

[@ChrisTHECOP]

I play it LIVE every Tuesday with other cops on my channel!

[@gergokerekes4550]

I had a friend describe operations like these in a funny way. what do you have to adapt to? yes. when do you have to adapt to them? yesterday is already too late.

[@firestorm165]

A friend of mine had a slightly different take namely "we have the rest of our lives to clear that room"

[@lowpostz]

Funny how they use CPG'S footage with Chris and Geoff, but not Cameron. I'm sure there is a reason 🤭. "Probably played a lot of tactical games" comment was great, shows why gamology format works, they let them analyse the video without the whole background information

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

everything shown here is basically tactical common sense: don't rush in without support, have a team mate watch the other side of the room, if you go in make sure you go out the same way, etc. I don't know who the fuck was the moron who popularized the "HURR DURR SMG GO BRRRR!" way of playing shooters, going in like they're freaking Speedy Gonzales.

[@jamielonsdale3018]

Call of Duty and their shitty net-code popularised it. On CoD, if your mobility was high enough, you could appear around a corner, react to a threat, engage him and kill him BEFORE you would actually show up on his screen even coming around the corner. It's commonly referred to as "peaker's advantage"

[@SSJ3CyLink]

I never heard of that, but some people have crazy reaction speed on FPS though

[@deathkorpscommissar8516]

probably cause its fun and easier to learn, plus e sports makes money

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

Having SWAT react to military tactics isn’t exactly the best way, considering this is a warzone and military tactics don’t match with SWAT, somebody else explained this really well but I am not SWAT or military, so I can’t comment too much on it

[@emulation2369]

Experts should react to Full Spectrum Warrior

[@nathaniellair1730]

Sweet video, can we get Cam and Izzy on Door kickers 2!?

[@lowpostz]

In a co-op gameplay would be mad funny

[@RexMiseriae]

1:48 he’s of military background

[@ghostbirdlary]

i think the one thing he missed was that this wasnt like a LEO group it was a military group

[@shiranui4918]

We are waiting Talibans reacting to Insurgency : Sandstorm