Swedish third tier team Torns IF find offside rule loophole

Swedish third tier team Torns IF have found a creative way to create one-on-ones with the goalkeeper.
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It's based on a rule found on page 93 in the Laws of the Game stating that "the first point of contact of the ‘play’ or ‘touch’ of the ball” should be used when judging offside, although it might not be straightforward to outwit defences. In light of this finding, the International Football Association Board have agreed to review the wording of Law 11.
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[@Statsy10]

"Adam you're our most gifted technical player. Can you place the ball on top of your foot and keep it there?" No, apparently not. 😂

[@cramyt]

funny that the whole video is a joke and got attention from governing bodies haha

[@asw16177]

I tried, I'm sorry.

[@pietrow138]

Ballon D'Off winnder

[@JackRolesEnthusiast]

even i could do that without flaw

[@MXSutube]

Gives me hope to be a 3rd division footballer😂

[@scottmaciver8948]

Makes sense because even for a normal pass contact with the ball isn’t instantaneous, just very quick. And they always go with the moment of contact. Would love to see someone pull this off and the VAR meltdown before it’s banned

[@AndyLowe-net]

Why ban it though? It's so hard to do, if you can make this work on the pitch then it should be worth 2 goals i'd say

[@RobertSmith-up9rz]

It'd be a new refereeing jurisprudence, so it must involve France.

[@alanfournumbers]

​@@AndyLowe-netit's really not hard to do lol, especially for top-tier players. The guy in the vid could probably do it easily too if they weren't joking around

[@KarstenOkk]

@@AndyLowe-net They might not ban it, just adjust the wording so it's about when contact with the ball is suspended rather than the ambiguous wording of "first contact".

[@deemood4508]

@@alanfournumbers it is hard to do, especially in a real play situation with players tackling you

[@Soccerguyz]

Seems very difficult to pull off. Hope to see some wild offside goals this season

[@Duckiman]

This is ingenious but I don't think it will work in a live match as the defenders won't ever allow a player that much time on the ball for this to be effective.

[@chesscomsupport8689]

A player on the other team could just come over and knock it off his foot

[@pandadoublexl]

@@Duckiman did you honestly think this was a serious video? Obviously it wouldn't work in an actual game

[@123a-o5d]

@@pandadoublexl It's in realms of possibility. I think the easiest way to use this loophole would be to receive the ball on the ground with your back to goal and then do a 180 degree scoop turn, keeping constant contact between your foot and the ball while doing the 180 and sending the ball towards the goal at the end of your turn.

[@Alphoric]

Not at all pretty much any player in a top league or even a low league can balance the ball on their foot

[@aidanw9378]

Theoretically this is possible, but let's be honest, if you did this, 99% of linesman would call it offside before you could even score

[@MCart1215]

If the player ignores it and scores, VAR can count the goal. Think of that one JonJo Shelvey goal (idk if I spelt that correctly)

[@markussass1144]

Not if the ref whistles before he scores @@MCart1215

[@smallarmskepa4390]

⁠@@MCart1215why wouldn’t you just take two seconds to google his name instead of saying “idk if that’s spelt correctly” You wouldn’t even have to load the the page just type it in and it would auto suggest after a few letters

[@LeZylox]

​@@smallarmskepa4390he might be on mobile?

[@-AxisA-]

​@@smallarmskepa4390 Sometimes you just don't have the motivation to close yt and go search the correct way to write something

[@LewisWanjia]

Incredibly ingenious. I don't know how they can pull this off in the middle of a game with all the movement.

[@JoshAston23]

If the goalkeeper does this however, he might have a bit more time on the ball to pull it off before launching it 80 yards up the pitch 😅

[@TheDandonian]

@@JoshAston23 Alireza Biranvand threw the ball from his area to the other teams area, so that would be ideal. Just play short around your own box, flick it up and head it back to the keeper to catch, meanwhile have two players straying deep offside, completely unnoticed, then boom, long throw.

[@JoshAston23]

@@TheDandonian only issue is, I'm pretty sure there is a rule against flicking the ball up and heading it to your GK otherwise teams would keep doing that to timewaste

[@МиланМилорадовић]

Just give that ball to Messi and run towards the goal

[@dani.munoz.a23]

you could also probably drag the ball along whole you hop with your other foot and then scoop the ball forward to make the pass

[@danielaw7720]

Oh, so this is what the antony spin is for 😂😂

[@Verdier77]

He is maybe the Chosen One. The one to make the epic assist

[@Chip_Fuse]

He was a visionary, but United fans killed his confidence smh.

[@chonkychikin300]

@@Chip_Fuse if he passed instead of shot, we would have won the quadruple. the vision was there, but the path wasnt

[@secrets7301]

Truly ahead of his time

[@karlhinze]

👏👏👏

[@PolishKuba459]

Morata about to become Top Scorer this season

[@JoaoVitor-sf2vv]

and Richarlyson

[@mm1k3y]

"Adam, you're our most gifted player..." "OK, never mind lets just find a loophole in the rules instead."

[@AlexanderShaddock]

Antony can spin and scoop a pass to Rashford 20 feet offside with this trick 😂

[@OMIMmusic]

imagine antony spinning a pass into offside loophole. he would be the goat for real

[@0Bennyman]

So technically a Goalkeeper could throw a ball from one side of the pitch to the other and no one could be offside as long as they were onside when the ball was picked up? Basically an impossible feat but interesting nonetheless lol

[@darkkingrc-1414]

Now I know why Salah is not offside when he is assisted by Alisson Becker, thank you mate

[@Ejub.m]

And you cant be offside when its throw in. But few teams take advantage of that

[@SamxJxPx1993]

You also can only be offside in the opposition half, not your own half.

[@SetMind2]

@@SamxJxPx1993hold my beer

[@soys8834]

Can’t be offside from a goal kick anyway lol

[@chigz2]

Kudos to the guardian for covering football in a way I haven’t seen anywhere else lol

[@whatisrealknowtheformula6137]

…immediately subbing to anything Torns IF-related.

[@nanka337]

Free kick exploit: one player stands on the ball while the taker kicks it. In the post-whistle interim, other runners can take up positions behind the defensive wall. If the defenders are alert, they could rush at the ball while it's being stood upon.

[@mrchewbacahimself7807]

Could the first player just place a foot on top of the ball and then have a second kick it (similar to how a FG is taken in American football). The first touch would be the offside touch and the second would be the pass. would this also circumvent an indirect kick? Is it two simultaneous touches?

[@АмериканецвРоссии-и4б]

No, this wouldn't be legal. The runners are offside at the time the taker touches the ball. The fact that another player is also touching the ball is irrelevant.

[@АмериканецвРоссии-и4б]

@@mrchewbacahimself7807 This wouldn't work - it wouldn't cancel offside (see above) and it also wouldn't circumvent an indirect kick. The rule states that the ball is in play when "the ball is kicked and clearly moves", so the first player is irrelevant. If he moves the ball, then it does circumvent an indirect kick (and this is even done sometimes), but again doesn't cancel offside.

[@ToHimWeWillBeReturned]

Anthony gonna spin till every united player goes onside and release the ball.

[@TaguroSuper]

Football boot brands should design a shoe that could balance the ball. Like a cup design on top-aft of the toes. 😆

[@Milesyu584]

you can do it with a little bit of practice its not super hard

[@rotua98]

Lots of player can do that heck i can even hold it for 10 seconds or more before my foot gon numb 😅

[@crateer]

But balancing a ball on your foot is super easy already haha

[@GALENGODIS]

Easier with a shoe designed for it.

[@dawidp749]

@@GALENGODISlike football shoe is literally designed to make contact with the ball with that part… it is mostly used for shooting, crossing, and long ball. How do you want to make it better?

[@christalball93_]

I'm a ref and yeah, it would be from the start of when he started balancing it on his foot that the offside position is judged of his teammate

[@colinhooper1933]

I refereed for 17 years professionally and yes, you are correct in what you are stating. That being said, you would also know as well as I do that the moment it occurs in any game FIFA would introduce a directive to referees bodies to prevent this from happening as it is an attempt to circumvent the offside law. You would also know that there are laws about players "holding" possession of the ball without release such as balancing the ball on their heads etc.

[@timtranslates]

Ronaldinho, in his prime, might have been able to take advantage of this. If he received a bobbling pass, he could hold it on his foot for, say, 1 second - enough time for a teammate to move 5 metres behind the defensive line, then flick it over.

[@Leonisel]

Now this makes sense, this way it would not be considered ball retention.

[@GenialHarryGrout]

This will be the next Willie Carr (remember him?) moment. EPL teams will be working on this for next weekend

[@willbee6785]

Yes, Willie Carr, then the volley. Brilliant move.

[@stevecooksley]

Came here to mention that free kick - well done!

[@videosrus8631]

Except that manoeuver was banned afterwards, as I recall.

[@MAdDyMatt]

Looks like fun training session brilliant 😝

[@jczura5602]

so, this is the Var criteria for offsides, they review the first frame when the foot touches the ball

[@EagleProductionsMK]

Linesman will call it offside and VAR won't know the rules because they're incompetent, so the goal will be offside.

[@reddish8692]

This is actually brilliant! Almost impossible to pull off, but brilliant 😂

[@tahiribnmohammad5410]

they could do a scoop pass, keep the ball touching the food on the floor, easy to do, and scoop the ball to your team mate, or you could just drag the ball

[@Tianton1]

IT would go to VAR and we would all age waiting for a decision

[@clanker3967]

We don't have VAR in Sweden

[@lucastperez]

@@clanker3967 :0

[@lucassantossj]

If it is COMENBOL you receive the VAR response by mail within a month.

[@SurrealScotsman]

There are enough players who could quite easily scoop ball onto foot & hold it there to flick it forward 20-30 metres though, would be interesting to see!

[@fruitpunchbigga3251]

“Hold it there” whilst the opposition stand still ?

[@GALENGODIS]

@@fruitpunchbigga3251 Like in a free kick situation. There is enough room, and time players to run towards to goal...

[@OlympiaMandMs]

I play for Torns IF

[@j-roc6989]

Are you in the video

[@OlympiaMandMs]

@@j-roc6989 No I don't play in the team for adults I play in the F 12/13

[@danialkhan3959]

@@OlympiaMandMs har ni testat det här på match?

[@OlympiaMandMs]

@@danialkhan3959 Vi kör inte med offside men vi gjorde det en gång på träningen

[@danialkhan3959]

@@OlympiaMandMs jaha, då förstår jag.

[@Treety1791]

Hahahhaha this is class. Even more fun that a lot of people think this is all serious :D

[@ippinekebe3238]

The striker been taking lessons from Nunez

[@TheThunderBat]

Antony’s having a field day when he finds this video

[@samirhazlehurst8806]

This certainly highlights why VAR should not be checking offsides to within millimeters - the same degree of accuracy cannot be equally applied to the moment the ball leaves the foot or head of the passer. Also a ball squashes on contact. Unless they don’t show it on TV, VAR does not zoom in on the foot of the player passing the ball to check there is the same millimetre of space between ball and foot. Decimal points cannot be invented if they don’t exist in the original data.

[@martin6123]

The offside rule applies to the moment of contact, not the moment of release.

[@samirhazlehurst8806]

No, it does not.

[@flexline5274]

@@martin6123 it is the moment of release u joker, what sport have u been watching pal?

[@leedsmanc]

​@@flexline5274literally in the video you're commenting on.

[@ordenax]

Yeah? Pray tell then, where do we draw the line?

[@_Murky_]

couldn't you keep contact on the ball on the ground and sweep it forward

[@FlashMeterRed]

... but VAR lines it up with the moment the ball leaves the boot......

[@moharikram1687]

This seems like the palming ball dribble rule in BB. You can skip normal dribble as long as your hand on the bottom or side of ball after you receive or normal dribble. In this case, as long as your foot and the ball are not magnet, this cannot be a possible situation. Unless you're Kerlon.

[@Jon14141]

Nice

[@mersedmuratovic3819]

Well they have been inplementing the rule incorrectly. It was always enforced when the ball leaves your body part you are allowed to play with.

[@0Bennyman]

Because no one has ever done this before so the point of contact is always the point at which the ball is hit anyway

[@AB-gb6zz]

@@0Bennyman there will always be some delay between when the first and last contact though, and it is enough to change quite a few goals throughout the history of var...

[@hedgehog11953]

@@AB-gb6zz There's not enough frame data between those two events, if you often look VAR flick between frames around the contact and you can see one frame is where the ball is in contact with the boot and the next frame it's already left. If the premier league was broadcasted at 100fps this would be a different story.

[@AB-gb6zz]

@@hedgehog11953 I didn't say it was feasible for most passes. I simply corrected the claim that the "point of contact is always the point at which the ball is hit anyway".

[@didrikmesicek4825]

I agree, it looks to me like they try to find the last frame where the ball is still touching the passer, not the first. Often with one-time passes there isn't more than frame, yes, but quite a few times there is, especially on a through ball which takes a softer touch and isn't smashed with force

[@ThierryMpando]

Mbappe be taking notes

[@UnkownUser2001]

Forgot about this video, it’s hilarious

[@JJJackson777]

I always thought it was the moment the ball left the boot

[@RefereeChannel]

A pass is made with any part of the body. Not just the boot.

[@randlepmcmurphy6117]

@@RefereeChannelYou sure about the any part bit?

[@jakemartinez6894]

@@randlepmcmurphy6117 Well with goalkeepers and throw ins yes.

[@randlepmcmurphy6117]

@@jakemartinez6894 Throwing the ball isn’t a pass. 😂 in the NFL maybe, but football no!

[@jakemartinez6894]

@@randlepmcmurphy6117 So both the English language basic reasoning evade you…

[@smallbigthings30]

Contact there means a pass to your team mate. Only loop hole is the word first, it is literally irrelevant in the rule as there can only be one final contact to give the ball away

[@MickMercer-v9x]

Putting your foot on the ball would work the same?

[@jacaueenlasumba8528]

Is this hypothetically possible to recreate in football manager set pieces

[@judasthepious1499]

Pippo Inzaghi : I don't need these gibberish 😏

[@shak9558]

I'm sure someone has already thought of this but deemed it virtually impossible to pull off in any meaningful way so just ignored it.

[@AldershotDave]

If the receiver of the pass is offside when the guy balancing the ball first touches it, then surely he’s still offside (or even more offside) when he receives it?!

[@RefereeChannel]

Correct. The point is to make the opposite. Start onside and receive it ”offside” but not being offside because you were onside when the touch began.

[@iganpparamarta8813]

Thanks@@RefereeChannel I thought I knew offside rule well but turned out I don't know this fundamental rule. I'm still confused though haha

[@sueyourself5413]

If Ronaldinho never did it, I can't believe that it's legal.

[@EspieJaz]

this was quite the hilarious skit

[@CaseCap2]

This is a funny concept but what's even more funny is a third tier football player having that much trouble balancing the ball on his foot lol

[@crateer]

It's just for comedy, of course he can balance the ball on his foot :D

[@danedane9905]

thats part of the joke dumb dumb

[@MrADudley]

Do a Cuauhtemoc Blanco pass.

[@RalfMengel-Glatz-bl3hw]

Ishowspeed becoming the goat

[@kimothemo]

explain more. still dont get it

[@MoviesUnderTheSurface]

according to the laws of the game, the offside determination is made at the point the ball is first touched, if you are onside at this point then you can go anywhere to receive the ball and still be onside. The loophole is the law never says how much time is allowed to elapse between the first touch and release. In practice, the release is almost instantaneous, unless you do this weird balance-the-ball first touch, then release the ball from the balance way later. In this case, a player can balance the ball (first touch), then his teammate in an onside position can move to an offside position, then the player can release the ball to him, and the play will be considered onside because the teammate who received the ball was onside way back when the first touch (balancing the ball) was made.

[@narrator_7]

​@@MoviesUnderTheSurfaceThanks for your Explanation, but i still don't get it and I'm watching football for almost 30 years, maybe i'm too dumb for this 'masterpiece'

[@Kreze202]

​@@narrator_7 So the rule basically states that whether or not a player is offside is determined when the ball first touches the player that's passing the ball. In almost every realistic case, the ball leaves a passer's foot in the initial contact between the passer's foot and the ball. However, this creates a loophole like in the video. If the passer's foot stays in contact with the ball, then the time of the initial contact of the ball and when the ball leaves the passer's feet is different. Imagine if the passer receives the ball and no one else is offside. The passer controls the ball in a way that his feet never leaves the ball, or in other words the passer's feet always stays in contact with the ball. Because the rule states that offside positions are determined on the initial contact and no one is offside when the passer receives the ball, no one CAN be offside until the passer stops touching the ball. So, the passer stays in contact with the ball, and a teammate makes a run forward beyond the last defender. Normally, this would be offside, but because the teammate is still onside when the passer first touched the ball and the passer is still touching the ball right now, he is still considered onside according to the rules.

[@tuna93]

all this fuss is about their misunderstanding of one sentence? "first contact" of the receiver, not the passer. we froze the frame at the last contact of the ball by the passer.

[@joso7228]

Or you could just place your foot on the side of the ball then push it through....

[@aok2075]

Exactly. No need to put it in the air

[@theonetheonlyjoey]

You wouldn't get any power behind the ball that way, without breaking contact with the ball

[@jakab174]

you put your foot next to the ball touching it , and an other player comes and kicks your foot with the ball, he technically didnt touch the ball, and he can put some power to it. :D

[@goodmaro]

@@theonetheonlyjoey Plenty of power if the other foot is separated enough. Even more if the ball rolls a bit on the kicking foot from toe to heel.

[@your_localpond]

Brazil national tram finna go wild with these

[@dazediss6629]

This is the most Swedish thing I ever saw

[@nickmaclachlan5178]

No mate, I've seen a Viking, eating Meatballs, in Ikea......... now that's the most Swedish thing ever!

[@MrStark110]

@@nickmaclachlan5178 But meatballs are originally from Turkey...

[@genoric4094]

@@MrStark110Yes and no. Swedish meatballs are not from Turkey. Köfte are. Swedish meatballs are inspired by Köfte sure, but they are still two quite different things. It is Swedish meatballs that are world famous, and they honestly taste much better. They took the “meatball” concept and improved it.

[@av94_officiel]

Coaches and Players should pull out the rules book in matches.

[@jordanfromtheb]

today i learned i can be the ronaldo of swedish third tier 🤣😂

[@petertobiasen3276]

Why on earth is the rule not that it is the last point of contact?

[@TheSpooncer]

Rules were made before var

[@rorysmith2415]

Clever idea.

[@nmsoccerboy]

That is awesome

[@ynwa73]

It's when the ball leaves your foot

[@RefereeChannel]

Incorrect. The law is clear: 11.2: ”The first point of contact of the ‘play’ or ‘touch’ of the ball should be used.”

[@Norce555]

They literally show you the rule as it is in writing. How did you misunderstand it?

[@styler9ronaldo]

Bro, this guy can not keep the ball on his foot? 😅

[@melvinolsson4297]

for those who don't speak swedish, it's so clearly a skit🤣

[@Bobbynotthingham]

Youd need prime Ronaldinho to pull this off in a live match

[@curtisbullock9739]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha - love it.

[@HugoHackenbush-jq7hl]

Brilliant 😂

[@rexstout8177]

Actually quite clever.

[@amir.mahfoozi]

At which point of the video we had to laugh ?

[@Chernobyldogs]

VAR would spend 90 minutes analysing this in a real game

[@Verhen_n]

Genius 😱

[@511dydy]

Someone must try this in a real match

[@arunashamal]

Didn't Kerlon used to do something like this,? dribble the ball on his head all the way, opponents have no choice but to foul him to get the ball

[@mojabaka]

I know this video is just a joke, but in case anyone here thinks that it‘s really a loophole, this would never work in a real match, therefore it‘s a non issue.

[@tomb9625]

could easily work, just needs the ball on his foot for 2 or 3 seconds, attacker can get a few metres advantage, scoop pass, job done

[@92brunod]

@@tomb9625 No referee would not call the offside even if it's technically not an offside. So no, it won't work in reality.

[@Jazzthink]

​@@92brunod not if the var uses gar (google assisted referee)

[@andersk]

​@@92brunodwould go to VAR and be overturned because the rules are the rules

[@chipe123o4]

I imagine it can work in corners or throw-ins in tight corners, you balance the ball and pass it to a teammate who runs past the defense. Worst case it's a time wasting tactic lol

[@chalphon4907]

I hate to break it to you but if the ball rests on your foot then you are touching it...

[@griechland]

Look at the exact wording of the rule again.

[@randomnpcmeme]

What is Ter Stegen doing there

[@dmrshadow]

Sign me up!

[@dbq-117]

Torns IF vs Grêmio do Magarça

[@timno2639]

CL winners in the making

[@GGMC556]

Lukaku needs to get his team mates on this quick

[@De-bi6zu]

I can just imagine Odegaard getting the ball in an open space and playing martinelli

[@whereeveritgoes]

Luis Diaz enters the chat.

[@grotgrusson5124]

Nu vill jag inte vara sån va, men ljudet var ju inte av den bästa kvaluttan, så att säga...

[@albiceleste101]

I would love to see it, but you would need someone like Messi to pull it off

[@rodryverson]

Fifa would change the rule 5 minutes after something like this happens

[@GAF516]

Isn't the "first point of contact" the moment the ball lands on a player's foot - NOT the moment it leaves??

[@rufus2328]

That's the point of the video.

[@Norce555]

The point here is that the player WAS onside when the ball touched the passing player's foot. And since he maintains contact with the ball, the attacker can run offside all he wants, because they technically can only count offside from the first moment it touched the foot

[@videosrus8631]

Can we not go back to the offside rule of 40 years ago? It was so much simpler then and everyone not only understood the rules but also didn't have to stand/sit around for several minutes wondering whether a goal could be celebrated. Also, the lino flag went up immediately not 30 seconds later and 30 yards down the field. I mean. how freaking stooopid is that? Players make tackles that needn't be made; someone is going to get seriously hurt one of these days because of the ridiculous rules.

[@Jon14141]

Nice

[@talijanac1]

but it’s not first contact, it’s last.

[@afrinkazmi15]

Why the ludde hate? 😂😂😂

[@cbyod]

0:26 "well I'll be f**ked"

[@AyanSharma-i9f]

i dont get it

[@JHaras]

The subtitles are pretty off. But to be fair it’s hard for Swedes to understand Scanian dialect , so do I really expect The Guardian to do it 😕?

[@Lorenshyne]

is this true?

[@aloysiousssejjoba4560]

I thought they look at point when ball leaves your foot not when ball comes to your foot

[@RefereeChannel]

They dont

[@vc3946]

Maybe the ball haven't touched the grass

[@ric112]

i bet the refs would disallow it anyway because they don't know the rules

[@travisrawlings3552]

Hes not wrong

[@siaahmadi413]

Here’s why you need Ronaldinho

[@Leonisel]

😂😂I mean on paper it’s brilliant but wouldn’t that qualify as ball retention?

[@hmmer3471]

I also found a loophole, that is referees in England

[@FNAFFANANDSAFCFAN]

maybe mbappe should use this