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Served with Andy Roddick

Served with Andy Roddick

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@photobearcmh
@photobearcmh 14 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy for saying what I have been saying for years. Test for enhancing levels. These micro-level positive tests are giving tennis a perception of a doping problem that doesn't exist.
@user-sg8xd6tu5u
@user-sg8xd6tu5u 13 күн бұрын
micro level positive is a sign of doping lol
@billiey36
@billiey36 13 күн бұрын
@@user-sg8xd6tu5u Not when someone is contaminated without their knowledge. And if it's too low to be performance enhancing, why is it even called doping?
@zlmdragon.
@zlmdragon. 13 күн бұрын
@@billiey36 stop it
@photobearcmh
@photobearcmh 13 күн бұрын
@@user-sg8xd6tu5u You're wrong and your weak short answer shows a lack of understanding of basic pharmacology
@ozankabakyesheplayedcentreback
@ozankabakyesheplayedcentreback 13 күн бұрын
Micro doses can be used as masking agents for EPO
@rimakavaliauskyte1646
@rimakavaliauskyte1646 14 күн бұрын
The only podcast i go to if i want to know facts and no- bs conversations👏👏👏 i will add that the whole doping/ contamination situation with Jannik, Swiatek is ridiculous. Do we expect people eat plain rise and an egg a day? What kind of weird rules these organisations are setting up? Athletes are people like all of us, they should be allowed to drink and eat regular foods and drinks or supplements without being scared to be tested positive. This could have a great impact on their mental health. Something has to change in these organisations!
@agacior0202
@agacior0202 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, Andy. Thank you for looking at the facts instead of reacting emotionally like a lot of people have.
@magdalenaszymaniak3167
@magdalenaszymaniak3167 14 күн бұрын
Finally a voice of reason!
@nicktilley4484
@nicktilley4484 13 күн бұрын
I wish Nick Kyrios could educate himself on this bc he gives misinformation about double standards (blaming and pointing fingers) and it gives people misleading information. Thanks for saying this about jannik before and Thankyou for saying it now about Iga.
@christiaanliebenberg5645
@christiaanliebenberg5645 11 күн бұрын
You are correct. However, you are expecting too much of Kirgios. He does not possess the nuance to educate himself.
@shiromaru8236
@shiromaru8236 7 күн бұрын
@@christiaanliebenberg5645Kyrgios is right to speak double standard. Top tennis players like IGA And Sinners have to get them ban like any others players. Full stop. Halep suffered for two years as well as many others too. Why not double standard . Please explain .
@enzoneable
@enzoneable 13 күн бұрын
Finally intelligent guy! They should ban all clovns like Kyrgios from social media spreading silly comments!
@deniztimocin38
@deniztimocin38 14 күн бұрын
Andy you were and still are one of the most honest player I have ever seen. Never seen you come up with an excuse when you lost. You are honest and not pretentious
@diegomattia4806
@diegomattia4806 14 күн бұрын
Finally, someone who says it as it is. Well done Andy! I totally agree with his take, we should look for things that enhance performances, and if they don't, when and if the tests return positive then we should have a system that gives a warning to the players and only after that warning a suspension could/should be granted. This would be just logical.
@DATennis
@DATennis 9 күн бұрын
Magnificent! An athlete can make their cycle of Oxandrolone and get tested when the drug is leaving the body. As its below enhancing level we all laugh and cheer. Roddick has gone off the rails. He knows he is lying. Drugs that athletes use leave the body quickly. Testing at enhancing levels is impossible. No athlete is that stupid. You'd have to draw blood or urine 2 hours tops after inyection or oral consumption.
@roksana1288
@roksana1288 14 күн бұрын
100% agree!! Roddick understands the difference between doping and drug contamination, especially since the hair tests showed it was clean, so Iga had not taken any substances before
@rubyruby4368
@rubyruby4368 13 күн бұрын
Who cares if your system had positive results you need to be punished for 1 year.
@cleorobyn
@cleorobyn 13 күн бұрын
Doping is doping under the rules though. Just because Andy thinks it should change doesn’t mean it will. Under the current rules this doesn’t apply.
@EmilioJ16
@EmilioJ16 13 күн бұрын
El tenis siguiendo el mismo camino que el ciclismo.Credibilidad cero.Es dopaje sin más.Con los tramposos dura sanción y punto nada de paños calientes.😊
@TheArmChairMan
@TheArmChairMan 14 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy. This is by far the best Tennis podcast available.
@IGuess...
@IGuess... 13 күн бұрын
It really is!
@Trogani
@Trogani 13 күн бұрын
Nothing Major is defo second best tho
@bacha660
@bacha660 14 күн бұрын
Thank You Andy .I love You Iga Światek♥
@lornawilliams550
@lornawilliams550 14 күн бұрын
Thanks guys. I really enjoyed this podcast. Andy, your take on the Sinner/Swiatek situation comes from a real commonsense perspective and it's about time that the anti-doping authorities cleaned up their act (no pun intended) so there's greater clarity, sensitivity and consistency. Your "Anything Goes" Q&A segment is refreshing and funny, so I think you should definitely do it again.
@kimmketelsen1079
@kimmketelsen1079 14 күн бұрын
I agree there needs to be a set standard on what is enhancement . Another good podcast. Thank you.
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 14 күн бұрын
8:39 That is indeed what they are saying, Iga got a 1 month suspension because it is not possible for it to be considered no negligence (which is what they ruled in Sinner's case) with a contaminated supplement. This is because they say that you "accept the risk" of contamination by taking a supplement. It's quite frankly ridiculous in my opinion that you get a suspension for something you did not gain an advantage from and that you did not do on purpose.
@dariusz_darson_8968
@dariusz_darson_8968 14 күн бұрын
It was medication. Under EU regulations. It was actually safer taking it than any supplement cause the risk of contaminated medication is lower. Anyway it honestly is all crazy
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten 14 күн бұрын
​@@dariusz_darson_8968 Makes it even crazier.
@martyna2371
@martyna2371 13 күн бұрын
@@dariusz_darson_8968 but that is also why she got just 1 month instead of several like in some other contamination cases. They use the fact that it was a drug in their ruling.
@sarahmathew9634
@sarahmathew9634 14 күн бұрын
Best episode yet. I appreciate you distinguishing between a positive test and a clinically significant test. The same thing exists in medicine. The Anything Goes segment was so good. I love that he didn’t hold back. My favorite episode yet! Thanks!
@Malcriada115
@Malcriada115 13 күн бұрын
Bless your soul, Andy. What is sad is that simple words of sanity and reason come from so few mouths.
@Rosellina1550
@Rosellina1550 14 күн бұрын
I agree with you 100%. There should be a completely different response from the antidoping agencies to doping (i.e. cheating) and involuntary contamination. ITIA/WADA have limited resources, they should concentrate their efforts on actual doping. Where they accept that the amount of substance is consistent with involuntary contamination, they know there could not possibly have been a competitive advantage, and the "negligence" is practically non-existent, the "punishment" should be on a much lower scale. Possibly having to submit to more frequent testing for a period of time or something similar, rather than lengthy suspensions. Just my opinion.
@FlorianaLions
@FlorianaLions 14 күн бұрын
Seems logical but then again WADA are not unknown for their bias....just take Kenyan athletes for an example...they know they're doping and do barely nothing to stop it.
@ostrozka2
@ostrozka2 14 күн бұрын
Iga Swiatek has been tested 20 times this year alone. Also shortly before and after the unlucky test.
@SmithyPL
@SmithyPL 14 күн бұрын
@@FlorianaLions Serena took 8 TUE, very strong substances since 2010 till 2022 and WADA did NOTHING because she was black American. Serena literally took corticosteroids, blood flow enhancers and asthma drugs taken also by famous Norwegian "Team Asthma" (Marit Bjoergen/Therese Johaug, asthmatics who won with other skiers by 3 minutes since they got the drug) and Djokovic/Kvitova/Mattek Sands.
@cleorobyn
@cleorobyn 13 күн бұрын
So it’s okay to be found with a banned substance in your body then? Just because it’s convenient for Jannik and Iga?
@SJ-di5zu
@SJ-di5zu 11 күн бұрын
Do you guys not get half-life? One picogram could’ve been a full dose 2-3 weeks prior to the test and simply has metabolized. That’s why they test for trace amounts.
@jozeflettrich7549
@jozeflettrich7549 8 күн бұрын
Fantastic episode Andy and the team. It is so great to hear a perspective in a way, that you dont need to include premature statements without clearly stating the facts. This episode can be very useful, since i am currently working on my law doctorate degree an doping is part of it. There clearly must be some kind of change on international level since when there is some substance allowed in specific country and then on tour is banned (double standards also in this area). Second part of this show was amazing to get unprepared Andy answering very interesting questions of Jon. I saw name of Kyrgios mentioned copuple of times in comment section - so he is kind of an example where if you are trying really hard for respect and hearing your voice outside of the courts, it can be contra-productive. His portrait and public view of it is only his doing, basically you like to punch, sometimes you have to able to receive. But, thats the way it is these days - that if you want to have platform outside of the sports, you have to be on the edge, but he is clearly unable to managing it.
@tinkoff280
@tinkoff280 11 күн бұрын
Andy thank you, you're such an intelligent and thoughtful guy...we need people like you in this world.
@Rodrigolc86
@Rodrigolc86 13 күн бұрын
“They’ve never put in two good days of work together simultaneously in their lives”. 😂. On point. 👏🏽
@topoftheinning
@topoftheinning 14 күн бұрын
Congrats on the Vox deal!
@dougscott-WineTimeTV
@dougscott-WineTimeTV 13 күн бұрын
As a laboratory owner, we understand the challenges when cutting-edge technology, HPLC - MS/MS, reveals trace contaminants at infinitesimal levels. This sensitivity at Parts Per Billion (PPB) presents complex ethical and regulatory dilemmas. The recent case involving Iga Swiatek highlights these complexities. While the positive test result was undoubtedly alarming, it's crucial to consider the context. The level of TMZ detected at .05 PPB along with evidence of contamination from a GMP manufacturer, suggests an unintentional exposure and not doping. We can’t unscramble the egg. Iga’s case will cause changes in the doping regulations. Andy, you are astute, and you get right to the heart of the issues. You and Iga won't, but a lot of people will have egg on their face.
@Mr7Poz
@Mr7Poz 13 күн бұрын
I guess the argument is that when there is real doping and an attempt to mask it, the result is trace amounts of whatever. Also, as I uderstand it, elimination-half life is extremely variable as well. But in general, I have to agree with Andy, everything is contaminated these days. These athletes need to have a life.
@rubyruby4368
@rubyruby4368 13 күн бұрын
Iga is a doper.
@thetruthhurtsu
@thetruthhurtsu 13 күн бұрын
@@rubyruby4368Don’t say that, this is a Pro Andy forum so they’ll agree to pretty much anything that he says. It’s like going to Djokovic forum and speaking truth about him. Even though you’re right, they will hate on you because let’s be honest, people are allergic to #TheTruth because the truth hurts.
@stefanbednarz4192
@stefanbednarz4192 13 күн бұрын
@@rubyruby4368 Engage your brain.
@stefanbednarz4192
@stefanbednarz4192 13 күн бұрын
@@thetruthhurtsu What is your IQ? Since you cannot comprehend simple facts.
@LepiGiska
@LepiGiska 13 күн бұрын
We need more of Andy’s personal talk. Love it
@pehrastrom1760
@pehrastrom1760 14 күн бұрын
I said the exakt thing a weekend ago. Since testing equipment has become better and better, maybe there should be limits for when results should be taken into consideration.
@stefanbednarz4192
@stefanbednarz4192 13 күн бұрын
I have worked for 41 years in nuclear industry. Every couple of weeks we purge the containment bldg, which houses the reactor, to the atmosphere and all we have to do is to ensure that the radioactive release is below a certain treshold. NOT ZERO - but acceptable level for a public health. So, it is shocking to hear that the ati-doping agencies don't have some kind of treshold of acceptable limits that would indicate accidental contamination. Test that showed traces of contamination would be discussed with the player to look into their vitamins, etc. Dopers are not that difficult to catch with a biological passports and testing. Contamination is also easy to distinguish from doping. Iga had 20 tests this year. All negative except one. After first night from arrival to Cincinnati from Paris. Negative test in Paris, negative test before US open. Cincinnati is not the "prize" tennis player would be doping for.
@thetruthhurtsu
@thetruthhurtsu 7 күн бұрын
@ you’re a 41 year old nuclear liar! Stop with this nonsense simply because your fav DOPER got BUSTED?!!! 😂
@stefanbednarz4192
@stefanbednarz4192 6 күн бұрын
@@thetruthhurtsu Stpd said what stpd knows.
@zvd2889
@zvd2889 14 күн бұрын
favorite episode, keep this format pls
@Simon-zl6ek
@Simon-zl6ek 14 күн бұрын
Saw what you did there @andyroddick : when you took a jab at kyrgios and shapovalov when you said "when they f up and are down they ask for forgiveness that they themselves don't give to others" I felt that attack
@andyc7011
@andyc7011 13 күн бұрын
Both Kyrgios and Sharapovlov are great examples of of the saying ‘Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody got one and they all stinks’. Both pick on one fact and double down on that to make the situation looks a lot worse than it is. At least Andy looks at the situation a lot more broadly to come up with a more considered view.
@Simon-zl6ek
@Simon-zl6ek 13 күн бұрын
@andyc7011 agree. Their "opinions" are very extreme and hateful. These accidents could have happened to them and yet they don't seem to be open to empathy.
@cleorobyn
@cleorobyn 13 күн бұрын
Not everyone is empathetic towards doping. And you don’t have to be really. A lot of people think you get caught with steroids in your system you get banned.
@sportslover2356
@sportslover2356 12 күн бұрын
The point is this. The legal amount is zero. That's zero. All players should get the same treatment in regards to testing, outcomes and waiting until the news is released as well as waiting until they find out their sentence. This has not happened in the case of these two top players. It's not about the players. Of course they did not need to dope. They did not want to dope. The inequality is the problem. Kyrgios is part of the PTPA which works on behalf of the players who cannot afford a top lawyer. He is not hating on anyone. Or he wasn't until sinnerfam strted attacking him like a bunch of Italian jackals.
@sportslover2356
@sportslover2356 12 күн бұрын
@@Simon-zl6ek Their opinions are not extreme or hateful. They represent the opinions of all concerned sports fans and pros who say: equality of treatment and sentencing of all players is paramount. It doesn't matter who they are or where they stand on the ladder. Or how much money they earn or bring to the sport. These two are amazing players. Tennis needs them. It's a tragedy this has happened to them. It should have been dealt with immediately last March. It wasn't.
@kolega427
@kolega427 14 күн бұрын
Why tf do they even bother when Sinner Halep and Swiatek performances where not even enhanced? I dont get WADA and the doping rules
@hp-fx9pv
@hp-fx9pv 14 күн бұрын
So now you know if someone who takes a ban substance is enhancing their performance or not? 🤡
@scara19
@scara19 14 күн бұрын
I mean, the punishment is absurd, ok 1 month for Iga i can accept, but for Jannik they asked for 1-2 years...two years could ruin a career
@Mrdnmrdnmrdn
@Mrdnmrdnmrdn 14 күн бұрын
@@scara19 maybe he shouldn’t get a massage from a trainer with open cuts when he has open sores using a band substance? Lol
@x-es3te
@x-es3te 14 күн бұрын
It enhanced Halep’s performance, in Sinner and Iga’s case, I think they should check but not suspend
@pglanville
@pglanville 13 күн бұрын
It helps them to dope. Don't be so dense.
@OO-ts5ow
@OO-ts5ow 13 күн бұрын
andy, please also highlight that per one doctor, iga was one of the most monitored player for years and rarely a player was tested as frequently as iga. who in her right mind would even think of doping when she is aware that she is being unfairly subjected to tests all the time? and dont get why she is tested the most among the girls? that should be inquired into, given that SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLEAN ALL THESE YEARS UNTIL THIS TERRIBLE CONTAMINATION. it was clear injustice to iga.
@ranonanon2558
@ranonanon2558 13 күн бұрын
Which doctor?How would s/he know? Let me guess, s/he's Polish?
@cleorobyn
@cleorobyn 13 күн бұрын
How is it an injustice? She was just tested.
@27moniczek81
@27moniczek81 10 күн бұрын
@@ranonanon2558 French, you're welcome.
@valerieee340
@valerieee340 7 күн бұрын
@00-ts5ow Iga is not and has not been the only player most monitored. Take Serena Williams, she was monitored all the time, tested any day or night. I suppose it happens to all players that dominate the number 1 ranking.
@wangziqing6857
@wangziqing6857 12 күн бұрын
Great video! Thank you Andy 🙏🙏🙏 Iga just had so many things that went wrong... I feel so sorry for her... Please 2025 be kind to Iga and us all 🙏🙏🙏
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 14 күн бұрын
The WADA director commented that the fact that the tests are now so much more sensitive is why so many contamination cases are coming up now - in the past, it properly happened and wasn't picked up. Something definitely needs to change. I know the counter argument will be that trace amounts can be the end of a doping cycle that haven't cleared the body and it will be open to exploitation. I don't know the solution tbh.
@qwaszx2
@qwaszx2 14 күн бұрын
Yea, her attitude, and second drug testing altogether.
@Pfaz001
@Pfaz001 12 күн бұрын
A solution could be to determine a threshold based on the sampling rate of athletes. Let’s set a minimum time span between consecutive samplings. A threshold can then be established to ensure that a positive test is not merely an echo of a significant dosage. Scientists should determine this number based on mathematical models of the fading rates of various substances. Does this make sense to you?
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 12 күн бұрын
@@Pfaz001 Yes I think they would need to do something like this
@kazimirsmith
@kazimirsmith 14 күн бұрын
thanks for being so honest and open, andy. this podcast/video is a fantastic watch/listen as a result
@vladyslavdiumin4124
@vladyslavdiumin4124 13 күн бұрын
Greag podcast 🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for sharing a lot of insights into your career! Hope that Jannik will be cleared of the accusations 😊😊😊❤ Iga will shine next season!
@naomihana1
@naomihana1 12 күн бұрын
I agree! Thank you for being so reasonable about something so annoyingly unreasonable
@alicjap3380
@alicjap3380 14 күн бұрын
Thank you, Andy!❤
@werka6237
@werka6237 12 күн бұрын
so great to hear the voice of reasonable person, i agree with every word you said. thank you for that podcast, it can give a big perspective from someone who knows this sport a little better than a fan
@Harderanger
@Harderanger 13 күн бұрын
Huge congrats team for virtually a year of top quality, differentiated content. You hugely deserve your deal with Vox, very excited for you.
@OO-ts5ow
@OO-ts5ow 13 күн бұрын
thank you for protecting iga's legacy. 😢😢😢
@martyna2371
@martyna2371 14 күн бұрын
You're so right! They should for fuck sake improve their testing strategies for micro-dosing and not ruin people's careers. Their number one rule should be as in medicine: First do no harm.
@AntonioDeSarlovl
@AntonioDeSarlovl 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for your words of wisdom, Andy. When I read kafelnikov's words I was shocked.
@kaytem9748
@kaytem9748 14 күн бұрын
Every case of doping is individual. It is just how it is. WE have details of Swiatek and Sinners case. We need to focus on them. And then it is clear - accusations of cheating are RIDICULLOUS in both cases. They should not have any penalties. They had gain nothing, they had no fault in getting those substances in theirs bodies as well. End of story. Rules penalising sportsman just because are st*pid.
@kaytem9748
@kaytem9748 14 күн бұрын
What's more, equalising it with RUSSIAN *systematic*, *organised* and *goverment controlled* doping system they developed to cheat ALL WORLD in every discipline possible is a crime itself.
@OscarBianchi1980
@OscarBianchi1980 13 күн бұрын
Thanks Andy true words. I totally agree with you
@santipechieu
@santipechieu 14 күн бұрын
The problem with setting thresholds for drugs Andy, is that is really really hard from a medical standpoint to establish at what concentration and during how many days you have to take something to conclusively have performance enhancements. You have to do clinical trials with participants taking it and participants not taking it and have a statistically significant difference in order to prove it, and to have to do that with the same drug at 0.001 concentration, then 0.002, then 0.003 and so on, for X days then X days +1, X+2 etc etc. And that just for one substance, which does not transfer automatically to the next . You are looking at +200 years of research if you start today, it is waaay more realistic to ban the substance altogether for the control agencies. There is not easy solution…
@macross8767
@macross8767 14 күн бұрын
I hear what you're saying, but I would argue that it's a lot harder to be world #1 at tennis than it is to develop those thresholds. It's only going to keep getting harder as new ways to cheat are being developed all the the time.
@santipechieu
@santipechieu 14 күн бұрын
@@macross8767unfortunately for athletes, it is biology and this agencies can’t make rules up, you are hold to scientific standards and while logic dictates that a ridiculously small quantity of a substance should not enhance performance, as long as you cannot prove it, you cannot approve something. As you well said, people are searching constantly a way to beat the system so if you find a molecule that enhances performance at a ridiculously small amount, it flies under the radar
@Pfaz001
@Pfaz001 12 күн бұрын
I’m not sure 200+ years is an accurate estimate. What we want is to have a threshold that depends on the sampling rate, to avoid a positive test being an echo of a significant dosage. We should establish a minimum sampling rate, and then for each substance, a threshold can be computed based on its fading rate. We could start by doing this for the most recurrent substances to address the most numerous cases first.
@crawjo
@crawjo 13 күн бұрын
This was my favorite episode of Served so far. Also, congratulations on the Vox deal. Well deserved.
@rebacohen5798
@rebacohen5798 14 күн бұрын
The testing system must be changed and fast! Why do players have to be manipulated like this? If Jannick Sinner is suspended for anything more than a couple of months all the players ATP & WTA should protest. This absurd system of punishing players for minute traces of unharmful substances has got to stop! Sorry for ranting, I absolutely love Served and Andy is the best ❤
@zeroelus
@zeroelus 13 күн бұрын
Also, on the topic of Andre's book. It's my go to anytime you have the "what book do you recommend" or "what book has had an impact on your life" question come up, and it's true in both cases. As a single, childless dude who liked tennis, it was an insight as to the pressures of stardom, of how someone would manage such a life with kids and a wife. It also left a big mark on me, even childless, I knew exactly how I would push my kids, and what I would avoid doing. Fast forward a few years, I'm older than when Andre wrote the book and I still find so much value in it. I re-read it some months ago and I was even more distraught by it. I recommended it to my wife and she was so mortified on the sections dealing with his childhood that she stopped reading it because it was adding to her already existing levels of stress. I feel happy with the balance I've done so far as a parent, if anything, now that my kids are slightly older I feel comfortable pushing them a bit more, since I think I know them well enough, but also they know me well enough to know that if I'm being insistent on something, it's not to be a mean jerk to them. Also, Andre is my go to on how to go on how I should go about complementing publicly my wife. I'm so happy to have married someone who is awesome-er, smarter, and all around better than me, that it's easy to compliment them, and I see how Andre complements Steffi as a blueprint of how to do it on myself, especially on more "public" levels, even if my public level is much smaller than the crowd AA would be involved in.
@ellencourtney7187
@ellencourtney7187 14 күн бұрын
Screw Kyrgios -and what is Genie’s actual problem. There you go
@SJ-di5zu
@SJ-di5zu 11 күн бұрын
Andy, I think you’re confused. Sinner’s trial is not confirmed for February 11th, but we’ve seen the CAS schedule up to February 11th and he is not on it, so we know the trial will be AFTER February 11th.
@briannew9701
@briannew9701 13 күн бұрын
I’m so glad I found this podcast. I love Andy Roddick
@stephencole3846
@stephencole3846 7 күн бұрын
Appreciated your voice, thoughts, and insights Andy! Determine enhancing levels, drop that level by a small buffer (to be conservative and to take the gaming/tickling the dragon approach to trying to work the system - out of play). Billionth of a gram from cross contamination.. Come on!?
@FrankDudleyBerryJr
@FrankDudleyBerryJr 13 күн бұрын
I love this podcast and keep up the nice work. But Andy and Jon continue to overlook a major distinction in the Jannik Sinner case that makes all the difference (IMHO). Unlike Simone Halep and even Iga Swiatek, Sinner didn't ingest anything into his own body. Nor was any medication applied to him. Halep and Swiatek may have taken the stuff in all innocence (credibly, in my opinion), but they did take the stuff directly. In Sinner's case, his trainer used a cut medication on his - the trainer's - body. He figured a medication that he used on his own cut couldn't possibly have a medical effect on Sinner, in which he was entirely right, and wouldn't show up in a urinalysis, in which he was entirely wrong. He was not aware of how impossibly sensitive the tests are. Are we saying that Sinner is responsible for a medical treatment that his trainer uses for the trainer's purposes that did not, and could not possibly have had, any effect on Sinner? Are you KIDDING me? It's one thing to say an athlete is responsible for treatments on his physique, quite another to say he bears responsibility for his team's treatment of their own individual ailments, and the random chance that some stray molecules might end up in his urine. You may call me the king of the softies, but I don't think anyone is negligent here, and I include Sinner's trainer. I think the appeal of WADA is completely misguided. This of course turns on accepting Sinner's account. But the ITIA already has. More than that, it matches receipts that Sinner was able to provide, the absurdly small amount detected, the timing of the tests, and the fact that similar cross contamination suffered by other Italian athletes. That medicine is evidently pretty good medicine. WADA should have let this whole thing die a merciful death. As it is, I hope it gets the black eye it has coming to it.
@domenicofrancioso8691
@domenicofrancioso8691 13 күн бұрын
Uno dei campioni che analizza veramente i fatti. Bravo ANDY oltre ad essere un grande campione sei anche un grande uomo. Avessero tutti la tua intelligenza nel valutare i fatti. BRAVOOOOOO
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 14 күн бұрын
Hi Andy, I don't think Sinner's date is set for 11th February- the date is still unknown. The CAS schedule has been published up to 11th February and Sinner's case isn't on it so it is assumed it won't happen BEFORE that. We still don't know.
@Rosellina1550
@Rosellina1550 14 күн бұрын
BTW, please would you be able to check the accuracy of stating there is a date (12 Feb) for Sinner's CAS hearing? my understanding is that CAS have published their hearings diary up to 11 February, and Sinner's case is not listed, however, there are no cases listed in January at all. It seems a bit of a leap to expect the Sinner's hearing to take place on 12 February.
@VH07654
@VH07654 14 күн бұрын
I agree, i didn’t see anywhere the confirmation for a Feb hearing for sinner case
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 14 күн бұрын
Yes I think Andy has misunderstood that
@charlessvoboda3591
@charlessvoboda3591 14 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy Roddick for having simple common sense. "Why the fuck do we care" Like you said.
@theblackXuan
@theblackXuan 6 күн бұрын
Congrats to the team! I love tuning into the Podcast and can’t wait for you guys to go bigger 🎉
@graemenoeldeans
@graemenoeldeans 13 күн бұрын
No wonder VOX picked you up simply best episode I have ever seen about tennis thank you all
@flordebattaglia5993
@flordebattaglia5993 13 күн бұрын
Hey Andy! “No significant negligence” by ITIA means that there shouldn’t be a WADA appeal, but that forced some length of ban. One month for Iga after her suspension seems like the shortest possible compromise. 18 year old Bartůňkova got 6 months for a contamination through a supplement, as was proven by a lab. The Sinner case is distinct because it is plausible that he got contaminated by his team, which means that he could have been not negligent at all - as the ITIA concluded. CAS will decide on it, but if they add significant to “no negligence”, we could have a situation where Ferrara, his negligent expert can work while the athlete he compromised is banned…
@bottochea
@bottochea 14 күн бұрын
Andy, love the show and congrats on your new partnership. On one of your next episodes, would you please discuss if current pro tennis players might be reevaluating their diet/supplement intake after these news? Like, if you were an active player right now, what would you be discussing with your team? What are feasible protection protocols for an active player in short of sending everything to the lab before ingesting it?
@towens94
@towens94 14 күн бұрын
Super proud of you guys joining Vox! I feel Soical Sophie should’ve been on to celebrate as well. Day One homies we are up today!!
@JiminPalmSprings
@JiminPalmSprings 14 күн бұрын
Congratulations on the podcast show news! … I agree with you entirely on the doping crap… Start penalizing when the levels of substances detected enhance performance👍
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 11 күн бұрын
Hey Andy I just realized that you have a form of skin cancer. When I asked about it a few weeks ago I had not actually searched it and so I apologize if I was insensitive to it but good on you for spreading the word as I see you have done. As a black guy who spent all of his life hitting tennis and being outside I am thankful that my cavalier approach to this issue was not punished. Kinda played on my genetics and that's not smart so at 60 I am going to start using it now (whatever I'm gonna die soon anyway LOL) I've been a fan of yours since you hit the scene and still to this day. We need you in that chair.
@MissForse-gw7no
@MissForse-gw7no 13 күн бұрын
Very important remarks on the so called dopping cases recently. Thank you, Andy. And also, I'm so glad "Served" is joining Vox Media! Great news. Love this podcast.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 13 күн бұрын
Congrats Andy I always figured something like this would happen. I know you will maintain your creative content. As to conflating contamination with doping people need to STFU. I'm definitely a Carlos fanboy > Sinner but all this hate on Jannick is just INSANE. I just want to make sure that all players are treated fairly.
@Pfaz001
@Pfaz001 12 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy for your clear, honest and objective take.
@JessicaDheere
@JessicaDheere 13 күн бұрын
A great show. Loved Anything Goes. Especially the part about Open. Andy, your show is following in Open’s footsteps. Looking forward to more.
@AlGreenLightThroughGlass
@AlGreenLightThroughGlass 13 күн бұрын
I'm renovating an old cottage; this podcast makes the experience so much more enjoyable.
@tanja0411
@tanja0411 14 күн бұрын
Congratulations! So de(served). Sorry, had to do it! And thank you for mentioning the chirpers, super rational people, and also those and maybe one person especially who don’t/doesn’t give grace or any kind of compassion when they out of almost anyone needed it the most. Thirsty thoughtless people aka trolls bother me endlessly too. I try not to let it but lose that battle almost every time. Anyway, the podcast is so good and landing with Vox is awesome and great fit. congrats again!
@guyprovost
@guyprovost 14 күн бұрын
Congrats! Love the channel!
@tanisha..5735
@tanisha..5735 13 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy for defending Iga and kick the a..... Of Nick 😊
@GaryK-c6h
@GaryK-c6h 13 күн бұрын
Congrats on the deal with Vox Media. Well deserved. Agree with Andy regarding testing for non performance enhancing levels. If it's not improving performance, what are we doing? Also enjoyed the Q & A with Jon and Andy. Thanks for doing this impromptu pod when breaking news happens. The flexibility is appreciated.
@071092paula
@071092paula 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for saying everything I was thinking ❤
@mfundomorrison88
@mfundomorrison88 14 күн бұрын
Loved what you said about Hewitt Bro
@tobiasgoldman
@tobiasgoldman 13 күн бұрын
Great episide Andy. Maybe the best.
@barbararuigrok
@barbararuigrok 13 күн бұрын
Andy, you are the best! Thank you!
@bernardzammit6459
@bernardzammit6459 13 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy You are down to Earth guy with an experience Stop the mini mini mini shit and worry about serious dope helping player with intensity of game Thank you again for standing up for Iga Big bravo towards you
@ElleMitch16
@ElleMitch16 13 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤️💪
@tobiasgoldman
@tobiasgoldman 14 күн бұрын
100% agree with you Andy! I'm rational 😅
@cpprpenny
@cpprpenny 13 күн бұрын
Congrats on the Vox Media deal! Well-deserved!
@bigalien1415
@bigalien1415 13 күн бұрын
How the fuck can something be called “no fault, no negligence” and punishment still be dished out. “Well sir we found you not guilty of robbery, but how about you spend a year in prison just cause we want to justify spending all this money on your trial, and because one time when you were a child you took 2 pieces of candy from a Halloween bucket when you were only supposed to take one”…make that make sense.
@mattyisack1
@mattyisack1 9 күн бұрын
Loved the Hewitt shout out. Hewitt Roddick was such an underrated rivalry. Would love to see Andy have Lleyton on the podcast for an interview.
@calvrsimer
@calvrsimer 13 күн бұрын
All I know, and for selfish reasons, if they decide to sanction and force this new an amazing jewel that is Jannick Sinner to not play for however long they decide to sanction him for, would be such a shame and deprive us from witnessing the incredible development and progress of this truly astonishing player that is already rewriting history. I’m so excited every time he takes the court, I never thought I felt that way again after RF. Don’t get me wrong I love Alcatraz, but what Sinner as achieved this year was mind blowing and as a spectator and a huge tennis fan, that’s what you want to be part of. So fingers crossed, I hope this organization is not going to do something stupid that would enrage the tennis fan community and allow us to marvel at this unique athlete for the coming year. My two cents!
@dungtruong4036
@dungtruong4036 13 күн бұрын
❤️👏Jannik is the reason why I watch tennis on and off the court . An amazing young man
@calvrsimer
@calvrsimer 13 күн бұрын
@@dungtruong4036 Same here. That's why I resub to tennisTV, etc!
@billiey36
@billiey36 13 күн бұрын
I only watch tennis because of Sinner. If he doesn't play, I won't be watching.
@dungtruong4036
@dungtruong4036 13 күн бұрын
@@billiey36 you and I are two of Jannik’s super fans. Thank you @billiey36 for always ❤️and support Jannik just like I did.
@fditrani
@fditrani 13 күн бұрын
Accepting the suspension, Swiatek's record will be forever contaminated. That suspension's a shit
@KarenMorgan-s8k
@KarenMorgan-s8k 13 күн бұрын
Really liked the anything goes section. It gave insight into the behind the scenes part of the game.
@jakekajkut5651
@jakekajkut5651 13 күн бұрын
Thank you, Andy for your honesty
@MichaelWarchol
@MichaelWarchol 14 күн бұрын
I’m basically with you on this one Andy. Shouldn’t a little common sense prevail in these cases. Is there really anyone out there that believes that having one/one millionth part of these drugs in your system enhanced their performance? Imagine having the equivalent of one eye drop of beer in your system and being arrested for DWI
@stefanbednarz4192
@stefanbednarz4192 13 күн бұрын
That's a good one (the eye drop of beer). Totally agree with you. The issue is also the fact that the pharmaceutical company, which produced the contaminated Melatonin cannot be liable, because the contamination is below the acceptable threshold set for the industry. I read that on Polish newspaper.
@franz1972-r6e
@franz1972-r6e 13 күн бұрын
Thank you Andy. Maybe all great youtube channels help WADA to understand how to improve the antidoping system for the next years. We understand that the issues are: 1) pro players may use a lot of supplements (IGA up to 14) 2) the industry of supplements is not of high quality, this is not a fault of pro players (well explained in Halep case, for Chinese supplements) 3) in some cases supplements are tailor made with an higher risk (Nico Jarry) 3) contamination may come from external sources and we are applying the legal principle of the "objective responsibility" to athletes as if they were multinational companies, able to check everything (Sinner case) 4) we ask them to play for 11 months without a rest. I personally respect the work of the professionals behind the anti-doping system; hope they find a way to improve it with transparency if these contaminations, at the very end, are 1) unintentional and 2) not enhancing performance. Greetings from Italy!
@scottross8578
@scottross8578 11 күн бұрын
I like the Anything Goes segment. I'm fascinated by the behind-the-scenes life of a tennis player. It's a lot of routine and learning to deal with loss, but there are moments when you feel great pride and success too. On the drug test thing, I don't know enough about the intricacies of testing to make any bold statements, but I wonder if the reason drugs are outright banned rather than a focus on quantities above and below performance-enhancing levels is that the level isn't the same for everyone and players would never really know if they were taking too much and would accidentally go over thus opening another can of worms. In short, it is just easier to ban stuff outright. Still, the whole contamination thing is a nightmare. If there is something in or on something you are legally allowed to ingest? That's a bloody nightmare. Great video.
@petersapira917
@petersapira917 13 күн бұрын
Loved this episode - please do more of the anything goes/Q&A stuff
@jbhatts610
@jbhatts610 13 күн бұрын
Love that “served” and “nothing major” drop around the same time!!! Must watches for tennis fans
@stuartglass1282
@stuartglass1282 14 күн бұрын
Never miss your podcasts Regards Yannik Sinner Absolutely ridiculous. He is a highly intelligent kid And 100% definitely not stupid enough to take steroids Looking at his physicality definitely not on steroids I used to take them you could see immediately. Why they are doing this to this kid is beyond belief. The amount involved wouldn't affect a ant
@njrajesh88
@njrajesh88 13 күн бұрын
Someone who says it as t is. Love this - 'Served with Andy Roddck"
@RADM-sf2sl
@RADM-sf2sl 14 күн бұрын
Great questions by Jon.
@christ203
@christ203 14 күн бұрын
Please before doubting Sinner consider experts have carried (there's a study by professor Kintz) out tests in controlled environment and recreated the thing that happened to Jannik and found the same results in their study. That's what expert evidence means.
@18lan
@18lan 13 күн бұрын
Thank you
@maorzirkin4865
@maorzirkin4865 13 күн бұрын
Loved this episode
@dwielt
@dwielt 13 күн бұрын
Spot on, Andy. All of it.
@mavster70
@mavster70 14 күн бұрын
In my opinion even three months is way too much. They already said he did not have any performance improvement, so what? How can he controls everything his team is doing outside the tennis court?
@olita.a
@olita.a 14 күн бұрын
yep, it's impossible
@x-es3te
@x-es3te 14 күн бұрын
I think that it would be fair to give him more suspension than Iga had, because it depended on his team, because they were irresponsible, but I think two months will be the right decision, three months definitely to much
@andieolivia
@andieolivia 13 күн бұрын
What is WADA seeking exactly? I thought it was years not months?
@Harish-df4em
@Harish-df4em 14 күн бұрын
Congratulations on landing the sponsor! I have been following this every week since the French Open. While the timestamps are great, I'd love to see more 2-4 minute videos. They're quicker and make it easier to jump in and out.
@DonaldLandau-ev8lq
@DonaldLandau-ev8lq 10 күн бұрын
Love the show, find your views, perspective and opinions intelligent and spot on. Less use of the f word, unnecessary.
@chrisoconnell32
@chrisoconnell32 14 күн бұрын
I respect that you mentioned Hewitt Andy after not being on each others Xmas card list during your playing days, nice that......was the second player Gael Monfils perhaps....?
@pedrooliveira6392
@pedrooliveira6392 13 күн бұрын
It has to be. He described him perfectly.
@marcorenato1814
@marcorenato1814 12 күн бұрын
Yeah I think it's Monfils too... extremely nice guy, amazing athletic talent, career high of 6... some occassions where opponents got frustrated with him 'faking' injuries before suddenly running everything down later on in the same match
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